Re: recognizing a previous connection

2008-09-11 Thread david
On Thu, 11 Sep 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > The problem in this case is when the child closes the lid they will > lose there connection. When they open the lid, the XO will 1st > attempt to connect to a mesh then the AP. > > Also there is the assumption that the schools using APs will have a

Re: recognizing a previous connection

2008-09-11 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The problem in this case is when the child closes the lid they will lose there connection. When they open the lid, the XO will 1st attempt to connect to a mesh then the AP. Also there is the assumption that the schools using APs will have a single ESSID and that in practice a large number o

Re: Libertas firmware on F9 for the XS

2008-09-11 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 5:10 PM, Michail Bletsas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Where is that list? Who has it? Who coordinates bugtracking for the >> libertas stuff? Can't be that much of a mistery. >> > If that's a mystery to you after so many months of working for OLPC, I > really don't want to

Re: [Server-devel] Libertas firmware on F9 for the XS

2008-09-11 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 4:42 PM, Deepak Saxena <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sep 12 2008, at 14:12, Martin Langhoff was caught saying: >> On this same thread, yesterday... Deepak Saxena <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > For the XO 8.2 kernel we had to pull forward some patches from the stable >> >

Re: Libertas firmware on F9 for the XS

2008-09-11 Thread Michail Bletsas
"Martin Langhoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 09/12/2008 12:50:50 AM: > > > What bugs does it introduce? > > That is the info I am asking -- without being involved in the Libertas > efforts I know of a few issues as discussed in this thread: > > - Deepak mentions it has an incompatibility w

Re: Libertas firmware on F9 for the XS

2008-09-11 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 4:33 PM, Michail Bletsas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Clearly, it fixes some bugs we knew about and we already know it >> introduces others. I assume someone is keeping track of that info -- > What bugs does it introduce? That is the info I am asking -- without being invo

Re: Libertas firmware on F9 for the XS

2008-09-11 Thread Deepak Saxena
On Sep 12 2008, at 14:12, Martin Langhoff was caught saying: > On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 1:49 PM, Ricardo Carrano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> In short, I need an overview of what works and what doesn't with F9 > >> stock kernel and 22.p18. So far: > >> > >> - Deepak mentions issues w/multicast >

Re: Libertas firmware on F9 for the XS

2008-09-11 Thread Michail Bletsas
> > Clearly, it fixes some bugs we knew about and we already know it > introduces others. I assume someone is keeping track of that info -- > What bugs does it introduce? M___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/d

Re: Libertas firmware on F9 for the XS

2008-09-11 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 3:49 PM, Michail Bletsas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Our advice is to use 5.110.22.p18 Sorry if I am sounding difficult -- I am just trying to understand the upsides and downsides of 22.p18 Clearly, it fixes some bugs we knew about and we already know it introduces others

Re: Scratch localization.

2008-09-11 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 5:37 PM, John Maloney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So I think things may work fine as they are, once we've updated XO Scratch > to the 1.3 release. (I'm working on that now, with help from Scott if he is > willing). I'm willing, but I seem to have missed your first email re

Re: Scratch Sensor Board needs access to TTYUSB*

2008-09-11 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 5:50 PM, John Maloney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > To use the Scratch Sensor Board or Pico Sensor Board > (http://scratch.wik.is/Support/Sensor_Boards), you must add a file to the > folder: > > /etc/udev/rules.d > > This file should contain the single line: > > KERNEL=="ttyU

Re: Libertas firmware on F9 for the XS

2008-09-11 Thread Michail Bletsas
Martin, I really miss the point of your tirade. Our advice is to use 5.110.22.p18 M. "Martin Langhoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 09/11/2008 10:15 PM To "Ricardo Carrano" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc "Michail Bletsas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "OLPC Devel" , "XS Devel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject Re: Libe

Re: Libertas firmware on F9 for the XS

2008-09-11 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 1:49 PM, Ricardo Carrano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> In short, I need an overview of what works and what doesn't with F9 >> stock kernel and 22.p18. So far: >> >> - Deepak mentions issues w/multicast > > I'm not sure exactly of what we're talking about here. Could you or

Re: Scratch Sensor Board needs access to TTYUSB*

2008-09-11 Thread Joel Stanley
Hello John, On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 7:20 AM, John Maloney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Claudia Urrea would like to get the Scratch Sensor Board working on > the XO. Feel free to look at the code for my "itch" activity, which just displays the values from the scratch board. It doesn't have code t

Re: Libertas firmware on F9 for the XS

2008-09-11 Thread Ricardo Carrano
On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 6:25 PM, Martin Langhoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 12:24 AM, Ricardo Carrano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Fedora 9 ships with a 2.6.25 kernel with a new libertas driver. >> Because of the changes implemented in this driver, you should use the >> l

New joyride build 2422

2008-09-11 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build2422 Changes in build 2422 from build: 2421 Size delta: 0.00M -PolicyKit 0.8-2.fc9 +PolicyKit 0.8-3.fc9 --- Changes for PolicyKit 0.8-3.fc9 from 0.8-2.fc9 --- + Upstream patch to allow root to read auths -- This mail was automati

Re: recognizing a previous connection

2008-09-11 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 9:33 AM, Greg Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm not sure this dictates the right design, but I am aware of several > sites planning to use multiple access points. > > One in the US will have ~40! and I believe that another in the US (NYC) > has many APs and a robust net

Rainbow-daemon dialog in Browse?

2008-09-11 Thread Bert Freudenberg
I've never seen a "rainbow-daemon" dialog before, what is it supposed to do? It doesn't work anyway, I filed a ticket with screenshot: http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/8435 - Bert - ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/l

Re: Getting a path to SUGAR_ACTVITY_ROOT

2008-09-11 Thread pgf
john -- scott's not in the office right now, so i'll take a stab at this. your code snippet looks fine, except for the typo in "SUGAR_ACTVITY_ROOT". i hope that's all it is. paul john wrote: > Hi, Scott. > > I wonder if you could give me a bit of guidance. The Scratch file > dialogs have

Re: Scratch localization.

2008-09-11 Thread John Maloney
Hi, Erik. Unfortunately, the LocalePlugin does not solve this problem. Scratch must still read the Spanish translation file and re-layout the UI. I've forward you an email I sent to Scott about updating XO Scratch to the 1.3 release. -- John On Sep 11, 2008, at 5:35 PM, Erik Garris

Re: Getting a path to SUGAR_ACTVITY_ROOT

2008-09-11 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 12.09.2008 um 00:08 schrieb John Maloney: > s = getenv("SUGAR_ACTVITY_ROOT"); Try inserting an "I" there ;) - Bert - ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Getting a path to SUGAR_ACTVITY_ROOT

2008-09-11 Thread John Maloney
Hi, Scott. I wonder if you could give me a bit of guidance. The Scratch file dialogs have shortcuts for common folders on Windows and Mac, such as the desktop and the user's documents folder. Most of these shortcuts make no sense on the XO, but I thought that perhaps the documents shortcut

Re: Scratch Sensor Board needs access to TTYUSB*

2008-09-11 Thread pgf
thanks -- filed as trac #8434. this is an issue for any USB serial adapter, not just the Scratch sensor board. paul john wrote: > Hi, Jim. > > Claudia Urrea would like to get the Scratch Sensor Board working on > the XO. There was a minor bug in the Scratch serial port support, > which

Re: [Server-devel] recover from broken yum transaction

2008-09-11 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 3:01 AM, Seth Vidal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> - Is it safe to run at boot time via an init script? > as long as the network is up, it should be. That is not very useful for us. I don't worry so much about the machine being killed in the 'download stuff' part, bit AFAIK

Scratch Sensor Board needs access to TTYUSB*

2008-09-11 Thread John Maloney
Hi, Jim. Claudia Urrea would like to get the Scratch Sensor Board working on the XO. There was a minor bug in the Scratch serial port support, which I've now fixed. The fix will be in the next Scratch activity bundle. But the other problem is that the USB port is not readable and writable

re: 8.2.0 Release Criteria & ECO Documentation (Michael Stone)

2008-09-11 Thread Greg Smith
Hi Michael, I thought of one item we missed in making this checklist. We need to pick the set of activities which we will include in the factory G1G1 image. Can you add that to the check list so we are fully ready to produce this image when its done? If that decision can come out of synch wit

Re: Scratch localization.

2008-09-11 Thread Erik Garrison
John, In Peru the team is using the Scratch.ini file to set the language to spanish. There is a long delay between Scratch startup and the setting of the language, in which Scratch is in english. Does the LocalePlugin rectify this? What work needs to be done to update XO Scratch to Scratch 1.3?

Re: recognizing a previous connection

2008-09-11 Thread Greg Smith
Hi Pia, Robert, Mikus and team, I'm not sure this dictates the right design, but I am aware of several sites planning to use multiple access points. One in the US will have ~40! and I believe that another in the US (NYC) has many APs and a robust network. One school in Rwanda has recently been

Re: Scratch localization.

2008-09-11 Thread John Maloney
Hi, Erik. Apologies for the delay in responding. I was on vacation, then finishing the Scratch 1.3 release. Scratch remembers the last language set by the user in the Scratch.ini file. If that file is read-only, it fails gracefully. In older versions of Scratch (such as the current XO versio

Re: Libertas firmware on F9 for the XS

2008-09-11 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 12:24 AM, Ricardo Carrano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Fedora 9 ships with a 2.6.25 kernel with a new libertas driver. > Because of the changes implemented in this driver, you should use the > latest firmware (22.p18). Please, never use 2.6.25 kernel with older > firmware.

Re: q2e15 and a bricked BTest-2

2008-09-11 Thread Jecel Assumpcao Jr
Richard Smith wrote: > All 'e' series firmware will brick any machine using a Geode GX (B1 & > B2) so e12 would have not have saved you. Right, it would be a good idea to mention this in http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Hardware_specification#Software_on_the_develop ment_systems It is pretty easy to m

New joyride build 2421

2008-09-11 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build2421 Changes in build 2421 from build: 2420 Size delta: 0.00M -libxml2-python 2.6.32-3.fc9 +libxml2-python 2.7.1-1.fc9 -yum 3.2.19-3.fc9 +yum 3.2.17-2.fc9 -libxml2 2.6.32-3.fc9 +libxml2 2.7.1-1.fc9 --- Changes for yum 3.2.17-2.fc9 from

Re: Bundle activity

2008-09-11 Thread Erik Garrison
Firstly, insofar as the hierarchical filesystem is a worldwide standard for human-computer interface, it is something which is useful to teach students. So it seems like a very useful activity. Secondly, from a utility perspective... Have you ever tried to move a file out of the Journal and onto

Re: [Server-devel] recover from broken yum transaction

2008-09-11 Thread seth vidal
On Thu, 2008-09-11 at 16:24 -0400, John Watlington wrote: > On Sep 11, 2008, at 11:01 AM, Seth Vidal wrote: > > > On Thu, 2008-09-11 at 17:42 +1200, Martin Langhoff wrote: > >> On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 3:50 PM, Seth Vidal > >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> When this happens you should run: > >

Re: [Server-devel] recover from broken yum transaction

2008-09-11 Thread John Watlington
On Sep 11, 2008, at 11:01 AM, Seth Vidal wrote: > On Thu, 2008-09-11 at 17:42 +1200, Martin Langhoff wrote: >> On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 3:50 PM, Seth Vidal >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> When this happens you should run: >>> yum-complete-transaction >> >> Interesting toy! I think you mentione

Re: Bundle activity

2008-09-11 Thread Bert Freudenberg
IIUC the activity would not deal with files but with journal entries. So you can copy several journal entries into a zipped entry, and you can unzip entries from a zipped one. This has nothing to do with files in the home directory (besides, a regular activity cannot write to home, and read

Re: Bundle activity

2008-09-11 Thread Erik Garrison
"Bundles" are files. In this case they are compressed files. I'm just pointing out that if we're going to work with files of this kind we should think about working with files of the non-compressed kind. The overlap between the Bundle tool and a tool to allow the same operations on uncompressed

Re: Bundle activity

2008-09-11 Thread Eben Eliason
That's not within the scope of this activity, no. This activity is strictly about viewing and creating bundles. - Eben On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 3:01 PM, Erik Garrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Matt, > > Would this activity be modified easily to take files from within the > Journal and move th

Re: Bundle activity

2008-09-11 Thread Erik Garrison
Matt, Would this activity be modified easily to take files from within the Journal and move them back into the user's /home/, either compressed or uncompressed? Call it the File activity. Erik On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 12:49:03AM -0400, Matt Der wrote: > Hello all, > > I am one of the students w

New joyride build 2420

2008-09-11 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build2420 Changes in build 2420 from build: 2418 Size delta: 0.00M -numpy 1.1.0-1.fc9 +numpy 1.1.1-1.olpc3.1 -python 2.5.1-26.fc9 +python 2.5.1-26.olpc3.1 -python-libs 2.5.1-26.fc9 +python-libs 2.5.1-26.olpc3.1 --- Changes for numpy 1.1.1-1.

Re: Stability and Memory Pressure in 8.2

2008-09-11 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 6:51 PM, C. Scott Ananian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 12:16 PM, Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 5:30 PM, C. Scott Ananian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 8:13 AM, Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: Stability and Memory Pressure in 8.2

2008-09-11 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 12:16 PM, Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 5:30 PM, C. Scott Ananian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 8:13 AM, Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 2:05 PM, James Cameron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Stability and Memory Pressure in 8.2

2008-09-11 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 5:30 PM, C. Scott Ananian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 8:13 AM, Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 2:05 PM, James Cameron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> But I did notice one odd thing that I wasn't fully aware of until

License your bundles, please!

2008-09-11 Thread C. Scott Ananian
John Gilmore has been pushing us to get our licensing ducks in a row. The one remaining problem has been activities and content bundles: we can't legally distribute bundles that don't have a clear statement of license. I have added documentation to: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activity_bundles#.in

Re: Stability and Memory Pressure in 8.2

2008-09-11 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 8:13 AM, Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 2:05 PM, James Cameron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> But I did notice one odd thing that I wasn't fully aware of until now >> ... the byte-code of the built-in modules was present, complete with doc >

Re: [Server-devel] Expected date for 8.2.0

2008-09-11 Thread Bill Bogstad
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 6:21 PM, Douglas Bagnall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This might also focus the minds of prospective designers: rather than > struggling to incorporate the letters X and S, try to make your logo > look like a school. I've been wondering about this. My understanding is th

Re: #7685 NORM 9.1.0: Alternate home layouts; fixed ring scaling; better modularization of layouts

2008-09-11 Thread Eben Eliason
I want to initiate some discussion on a similar topic to the one you bring up here, regarding the extensibility of the layouts. What I'd like to see is layout modules which provide translation from a set of input coordinates to a set of output coordinates (eg, _calculate_position), which are then

Re: New joyride build 2413

2008-09-11 Thread Bobby Powers
On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 7:22 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Intentional? yup, the monolithic library is being split into content bundles that can be added with a customization stick, or added to images for e.g. Peru or G1G1. bobby > Marco > > On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 8:09 A

Re: Libertas firmware on F9 for the XS

2008-09-11 Thread Ricardo Carrano
Martin, On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 12:44 AM, Martin Langhoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 12:37 AM, Ricardo Carrano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> The release notes can be acessed here: >> http://www.laptop.org/teamwiki/index.php/Tech:FW_8388_RELEASE_NOTES >> >> 22.p18 is the c

Re: New joyride build 2413

2008-09-11 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
Intentional? Marco On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 8:09 AM, Build Announcer v2 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build2413 > > Changes in build 2413 from build: 2412 > > Size delta: -70.91M > > -olpc-library-core 1-26 > > -- > This mail was automatical

New joyride build 2418

2008-09-11 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build2418 Changes in build 2418 from build: 2417 Size delta: 0.00M -hulahop 0.4.5-2.olpc3 +hulahop 0.4.6-1.olpc3 -sugar 0.82.3-1.olpc3 +sugar 0.82.4-1.olpc3 -sugar-toolkit 0.82.5-1.olpc3 +sugar-toolkit 0.82.6-1.olpc3 -- This mail was aut

Re: Videochat - any status?

2008-09-11 Thread Guillaume Desmottes
Le jeudi 11 septembre 2008 à 14:21 +1000, Pia Waugh a écrit : > Hi all, > > I have a great need for the video chat application to use for remote speech > pathology and other services to remote communities through chat. Does anyone > know the status of this project: > > http://wiki.laptop.org/go