On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 4:01 AM, Gary C Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm showing my age here, but is bundle_id a replacement for
service_name? Seem to be identical.
Yeah, service_name is deprecated but they are basically the same
thing. bundlebuilder should probably warn about it.
Marco
Am 19.09.2008 um 01:13 schrieb Douglas Bagnall:
Greg Smith wrote:
What do you think are the most important activities to include?
If we're sticking to activities with valid activity.info files, then
(AFAICT) we're limited to:
XaoS - org.codewiz.XaoS
Sokoban
On 19 Sep 2008, at 09:15, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote:
On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 4:01 AM, Gary C Martin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm showing my age here, but is bundle_id a replacement for
service_name? Seem to be identical.
Yeah, service_name is deprecated but they are basically the same
Hi Stephen,
quote who=Stephen Thorne
This means two laptops from neighbouring schools who each have their 'own'
schoolserver set up as their jabber server will not be able to share any
content if they are close enough to receive wireless signal to the internet.
Unless they join each others
Hi all,
quote who=Stephen Thorne
I'm pleased to announce that I've had a successful Video conversation, and
am releasing the .xo file that is the result of this weeks hard labour.
I just wanted to say a big thanks to Stephen for all his work. I believe
this app will really make a huge
On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 1:10 PM, Gary C Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So I should keep both in my activity.info for backwards compatibility with
early builds?
This was change *long* time ago. I suspect your activity would not
work for other reasons if run with such an old Sugar.
Marco
Hi Gary,
Thank you for your response. The Moon activity looks like a very good
place to learn how to do things, it is very well written and easy to
understand. I will read about json.
One small suggestion: when you toggle hemispheres, it would be good to
have a text label showing the current
For keeping up with new Trac tickets I discovered this RSS feed:
http://dev.laptop.org/timeline?ticket=onmax=50daysback=7format=rss
... which only has entries for opened and closed tickets. This is much
more bearable than subscribing to the bug notify list.
Even better would be if I could
On Thursday 18 September 2008 09:16:57 Ton van Overbeek wrote:
The second one (3DNow required) is due to the change to the 2.6.25
kernel for 8.2. The kernel checks for CPU features and does not
continue booting when it does not find them. The kernel for the XO is
build for the AMD LX-Geode and
On Sat, 2008-09-13 at 16:54 +1200, Martin Langhoff wrote:
On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 12:07 AM, Tom Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Having been once the maintainer of the Pg compat layer in Moodle, I
also have first-hand experience with this. When the casts removal was
mentioned in pg-devel, who
On 2008-09-15 01:55, Martin Langhoff wrote:
I am working on the School Server (aka XS: a Fedora 9 spin, tailored
to run on fairly limited hw)
I think Fedora or any spin of it is a bad choice for a server. It's
support lifecycle is so short you'll have to reinstall it every year. A
very similar
On Mon, 15 Sep 2008, Martin Langhoff wrote:
+max_prepared_transactions = 5
That is the default on 8.3, am guessing you just uncommented it but didn't
change. If you're not actually using prepared transactions anywhere, you
may very well be able to drive memory use down a touch more by
On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 9:37 AM, Walter Bender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'd be nice to architect this in a way such that someone without
access to an XS could perhaps subscribe to an external service offered
up on the Internet to achieve the same functionality. We had (long
ago) a standing
On Monday 15 September 2008 02:42:32 Greg Smith wrote:
On Mon, 15 Sep 2008, Martin Langhoff wrote:
+max_prepared_transactions = 5
That is the default on 8.3, am guessing you just uncommented it but didn't
change. If you're not actually using prepared transactions anywhere, you
may very
On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 3:46 PM, Martin Langhoff
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 8:36 AM, Robert Treat
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Call me crazy, but I think you need to drop postgres and maybe even template0
databases from the system, just to reduce overall footprint, plus gives
Hi Taran,
I would post to the Moodle general developer forum and try and attract
the attention of Sam Marshal from the Open University, he's the person
that maintains the OU Blog code base and has been preparing the OUBlog
for release into moodle contrib.
Cheers,
Matt.
Martin Langhoff wrote:
Hi Bert,
On 19 Sep 2008, at 13:27, Bert Freudenberg wrote:
For keeping up with new Trac tickets I discovered this RSS feed:
http://dev.laptop.org/timeline?ticket=onmax=50daysback=7format=rss
... which only has entries for opened and closed tickets. This is much
more bearable than
Am 19.09.2008 um 19:07 schrieb Gary C Martin:
Hi Bert,
On 19 Sep 2008, at 13:27, Bert Freudenberg wrote:
For keeping up with new Trac tickets I discovered this RSS feed:
http://dev.laptop.org/timeline?ticket=onmax=50daysback=7format=rss
... which only has entries for opened and closed
On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 12:13 AM, Benjamin M. Schwartz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Let's keep thinking about this. For example, I wonder what Metacity does
to a window that is both _NET_WM_STATE_FULLSCREEN and
_NET_WM_STATE_BELOW? Does it stack it below the Frame, if the Frame is
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Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote:
| On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 12:13 AM, Benjamin M. Schwartz
| [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| Let's keep thinking about this. For example, I wonder what Metacity does
| to a window that is both _NET_WM_STATE_FULLSCREEN and
|
On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 2:00 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 12:13 AM, Benjamin M. Schwartz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Let's keep thinking about this. For example, I wonder what Metacity does
to a window that is both _NET_WM_STATE_FULLSCREEN and
On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 8:30 PM, Bobby Powers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Are we set on moving to metacity? I remember murmurs of using xmonad,
as well as another wm I can't remember the name of. Are these
stacking/hinting problems common to all window mangers, or just
metacity?
They are
On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 8:55 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 8:30 PM, Bobby Powers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Are we set on moving to metacity? I remember murmurs of using xmonad,
as well as another wm I can't remember the name of. Are these
On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 2:31 PM, Eduardo H. Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ideas for Journal: How epiphany browser manages bookmarks just with
tags (and does it nicely, with potential of improving of course).
I made a screenshot slide-show of how tagging and the dynamic
bookmarks menu based
On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 8:28 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| I just thought of a worst problem with the FULLSCREEN approach.
| FULLSCREEN windows are always on the top of NORMAL windows.
Why is this a problem? When do we need an Activity to be visible,
full-screen, and
On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 4:07 PM, Sayamindu Dasgupta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Marco and I have been discussing on how to make a window manager like
Metacity fit into the Sugar environment, and based on our current
discussions, as well as past discussions, it seems clear that we need
changes to
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We are talking about replacing Matchbox with Metacity in the XO build of
Sugar.
C. Scott Ananian wrote:
| When I run
| sugar under metacity, I don't *want* my activities to be full screen.
I think you mean When I run Sugar inside a standard desktop
On Fri, 19 Sep 2008, Sayamindu Dasgupta wrote:
Hello all,
Marco and I have been discussing on how to make a window manager like
Metacity fit into the Sugar environment, and based on our current
discussions, as well as past discussions, it seems clear that we need
changes to the Extended
On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 9:26 PM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think you are confusing the role of the Window Manager. When I run
sugar under metacity, I don't *want* my activities to be full screen.
When I use a windowing wm, I expect them to be in (decorated) windows.
Yeah,
On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 3:33 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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We are talking about replacing Matchbox with Metacity in the XO build of
Sugar.
Right, I think that's where you're going wrong. You should be
considering replacing
On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 3:35 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I
suppose we could add a new hint for some activities indicating which
of their multiple windows (if any) should be the 'background' one
mapped full-screen, but I believe the existing hints are adequate.
That's
On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 9:43 PM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well, if there's only one window, and it's stretchable, then your
decision is easy.
If it requests a fixed size, then you should probably decorate and
float all the windows. I could also see floating all fixed size
On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 12:49 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 8:28 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| I just thought of a worst problem with the FULLSCREEN approach.
| FULLSCREEN windows are always on the top of NORMAL windows.
Why
On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 12:56 AM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 4:07 PM, Sayamindu Dasgupta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Marco and I have been discussing on how to make a window manager like
Metacity fit into the Sugar environment, and based on our current
On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 1:13 AM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 3:35 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I
suppose we could add a new hint for some activities indicating which
of their multiple windows (if any) should be the 'background' one
On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 3:59 PM, Eduardo H. Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
2008/9/19 C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 2:31 PM, Eduardo H. Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ideas for Journal: How epiphany browser manages bookmarks just with
tags (and does it nicely, with
On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 1:26 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 9:43 PM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well, if there's only one window, and it's stretchable, then your
decision is easy.
If it requests a fixed size, then you should probably
On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 3:59 PM, Eduardo H. Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
2008/9/19 C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 2:31 PM, Eduardo H. Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If you accept that tags can sometimes be ordered, so that a/b is
different than b/a (although both
Hi All,
Here's my weekly report. They called for the report on Thursday AM this
week so it doesn't cover work since then.
Thanks,
Greg S
Status against last weeks goals:
1 - Hound engineers to close all 8.2.0 blockers (see
http://dev.laptop.org/report/28) and get a firm date
On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 4:57 PM, Eben Eliason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Two) to get at the thing you're looking for. So, again, I'm not
sure that order really matters.
Of course, if it DID really matter for a reason I'm not presently
considering, we could allow tags of the form:
A/B
To
Help-6.xo is now available:
http://teach.laptop.org/~mstone/Help-6.xohttp://teach.laptop.org/%7Emstone/Help-6.xo
This version fixes the issue with images loading from FM's site, not the
local versions of the images. re: http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/8558
We are coming up to a final deadline
On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 4:50 PM, Sayamindu Dasgupta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Metacity was provided just as an example. The issue here is that we
want to replace Matchbox with something which would let us support
normal desktop applications better, ideally without requiring any kind
of
On Thu, 18 Sep 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
benjamin m. schwartz wrote:
Chris Ball wrote:
| So, we shipped 19 activities with G1G1v1; that means the ten activities
| people vote for here are likely to be a subset of that list, and we
| aren't learning much about what new things we
On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 10:01 PM, Gary C Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
However, any hints would be much appreciated as to what this last
remaining setup.py WARNING is trying to tell me?
WARNING:root:bundle_name deprecated, now comes from activity.info
I've not had much luck tracking
On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 7:13 PM, Douglas Bagnall
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If we're sticking to activities with valid activity.info files, then
(AFAICT) we're limited to:
Actually, we can only ship activities with valid license= tags in the
activity.info files. I don't think many on your list
I vote very strongly for Ruler. It's less than 20kb non-compressed! It's
too small *not* to include.
Top Ten:
1.) Ruler
2.) Moon
3.) StarChart
4.) Bridge
5.) XaoS
6.) Frotz
7.) WikiBrowse Spanish
8.) Words
9.) Tumbleboy
On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 7:48 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL
Lots of discussion -- but I'm not sure how much benefit the Sugar
*user* might receive.
I think that everybody agrees (myself included) that the user must
be able to call up the Frame anytime. And for typical Activities,
the amount of screen real estate they *themselves* obstruct (which
the
On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 4:59 PM, Mikus Grinbergs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Lots of discussion -- but I'm not sure how much benefit the Sugar
*user* might receive.
Some users will want to use gimp. Some will want to use metacity.
To me, supporting multiple windows for one Activity is a much
I wouldn't include Bridge yet. It's great, but not complete. I would include:
WikiBrowse
PlayGo
Frotz
Clock
GCompris Chess
GCompris Sudoku
XaoS
Moon
StarChart
ePals
On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 5:53 PM, Seth Woodworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I vote very strongly for Ruler. It's less than 20kb
Hi All,
Thanks a lot for the input on which activities to ship!
Here is the list of activities I will to management as my suggestion on
what we ship.
Please help test these! See the end of the e-mail for instructions.
The list I recommend is essentially the G1G1 activities (kudos to the
team
What are your criteria? Are you ranking things by supportability and size?
If so Ruler is a no-brainer. It's 20kb and is unlikely to break easily.
On the other hand SimCity is hard to make drastic changes and still be
called SimCity. It's currently buggy and has no active maintainer.
On Fri,
On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 10:37 PM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The main changes required, I think, would actually be to the shell
code to make it happy running on a root window. There's some
reparenting magic that's done to make that work right;
I'm not sure what you mean exactly
On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 1:10 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And, of course, I
wanted to switch sugar to using the standard X activity startup
notification mechanism, and the standard desktop notification
mechanism.
I'm not sure this is necessary. All the activities will
On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 7:16 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 1:10 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And, of course, I
wanted to switch sugar to using the standard X activity startup
notification mechanism, and the standard desktop
On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 1:26 AM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Scratch that, I lied... I hope the freedesktop spec is flexible enough
to implement our kind of UI feedback.
I read the spec, it seemed sane. Proof will be in the implementation,
though, of course.
Yeah... Regarding
On 08-09-19, at 18:27, Greg Smith wrote:
Hi All,
Thanks a lot for the input on which activities to ship!
Here is the list of activities I will to management as my suggestion
on what we ship.
Please help test these! See the end of the e-mail for instructions.
The list I recommend is
2008/9/19 C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 2:31 PM, Eduardo H. Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ideas for Journal: How epiphany browser manages bookmarks just with
tags (and does it nicely, with potential of improving of course).
I made a screenshot slide-show of how
This seems weighted toward older kids. I think you should include all of
gcompris and TuxPaint. Paint is not a good drawing app for young children
(or anybody else, but I digress). Colors is good. Cartoon builder is good
for young kids.
On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 5:42 PM, jean piche [EMAIL
On 19 Sep 2008, at 22:50, C. Scott Ananian wrote:
On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 10:01 PM, Gary C Martin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
However, any hints would be much appreciated as to what this last
remaining setup.py WARNING is trying to tell me?
WARNING:root:bundle_name deprecated, now
Here are my top 10 ranking,
(with the next 10, if assuming some basic required packages)
Journal
Browse
Write
Record
Paint
Maze
Calculate
Pippy
Physics (or x2o)
Measure
Implode
Speak
Memorize
TamTam
Moon
XaoS
Read
Help
Terminal
XoIRC
My criteria is basic activities or younger children
On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 2:54 PM, Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi All,
We need to pick the activities we ship with 8.2 when its manufactured
for G1G1 users. Management needs to sign off on the final list as early
as next week.
Its not definitive but we want your input on what we
Colors! is far superior to Paint. Colors! is a wonderful activity.
A lot of fun and can be used for learning how to paint.
The replay mechanism is a great learning tool. Using Colors! in
shared mode is a great example of the potential of collaboration for
aiding creativity.
On Sep 19,
Eben Eliason writes:
On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 3:59 PM, Eduardo H. Silva hoboprimate at gmail.com
wrote:
2008/9/19 C. Scott Ananian cscott at laptop.org:
Eben, Eduardo, and I have been chatting about this some over IRC.
What I find most interesting here is how *filesystem paths* (well,
URL
Martin Langhoff wrote:
On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 3:16 AM, Jerry Vonau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yea, revisor needs anaconda-runtime,
cat /usr/lib/revisor/scripts/F9-buildinstall | grep anaconda
Yes, but from what Jeroen has said, revisor will pull it in to satisfy
the need at CD build time,
On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 10:23 PM, Jeroen van Meeuwen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hence the log-file is of interest to me ;-)
Sent it in a private email :-)
Yes, anaconda-runtime needs to exist in the repositories you use.
Sorry - I should have clarified - anaconda-runtime *is* in the repos
Martin Langhoff wrote:
On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 2:45 PM, Martin Langhoff
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
in any case, I've run a quick check
- cp -P does not imply --recursive, so I reverted to -a
Yea, I know, that is why the mkdir/cp loop is there.
## selinux doesn't like cp -a ## That is
Martin Langhoff wrote:
On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 10:23 PM, Jeroen van Meeuwen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hence the log-file is of interest to me ;-)
Sent it in a private email :-)
Yes, anaconda-runtime needs to exist in the repositories you use.
Sorry - I should have clarified -
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