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Mikus Grinbergs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> Tagging isn't as much of an issue as being able to save files
>> to a USB key easily.
>
> I'm trying to think of why a kid would want to save files to a USB
> key. Normally, except for off-loading objects to a school
> repository (a process about w
"Carlos Nazareno" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> A spinoff from the name Sugar? Before Sugar was spunoff to run on
> other platforms, I think journalists kept calling the XO's OS Sugar.
>
> Mmm. Sugar-XO?
Xugar?
-- Bastien (who just agree a short sweet name would do.)
__
oh well, maybe it was just where we newbies entered the conversations - if
that's the way you all work then fine. My main concern is that the info
from the field gets to the right people.
Best,
Nia
"Marco Pesenti Gritti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
10/08/08 02:33 PM
To
"Nia Lewis" <[EMAIL PROTECT
Thanks, MArco. I still think talking to Erik like that isn't very nice
either:)
"Marco Pesenti Gritti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
10/08/08 02:17 PM
To
"Nia Lewis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
cc
devel@lists.laptop.org, "elana langer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Erik
Garrison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Julia Reynolds"
Hi Marco,
That was a really nice welcome. I work with Elana and the learning team
here at OLPC and one thing we are trying to do is increase communications
between our group and the technical side of the house. It seems the best
way to communicate this information from the field is to use the
Great, thanks. I was steered to the correct files and got it to work
from both the USB and command line. The files I used can be found at:
http://dev.laptop.org/~reuben/xs-xobuilds/
Out of curiosity why do we require the tree files which come from:
http://pilgrim.laptop.org/~pilgrim/xo-1/strea
The red dots in the NAND display ("scan-nand" or "copy-nand" or its
equivalent) are bad NAND erase blocks.
An erase block is a 128K chunk that has to be erased as a unit. The
erasure process gradually wears out the block (charge accumulates in the
dielectric and shifts the thresholds to the po
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 11:25 AM, Carlos Nazareno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hey all! Quick question:
>
> What's the official name/branding of the OS that ships with the OLPC?
>
> It's not Sugar as that's the GUI, and neither is it Fedora 9 anymore
> as it's been forked.
>
> Can we clarify this a
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 10:59 PM, Greg Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Sayamindu,
>
> Are you maintaining Read now or is Morgan?
>
> I got a ping from Brian who is in Rwanda and he confirmed that this bug:
> http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/7090
>
> was actually seen by kids there. Just as cjl pre
They are indeed bad blocks. I believe a block is a single cluster of eight
kilobytes, the smallest unit of NAND flash - can anyone confirm this?
--
Ian
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 5:09 PM, Carlos Nazareno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi all!
>
> What are the red dots on the NAND's disk cluster/block/
How would you compare this turtle module with the TurtleArt activity
in Sugar? It is available in .deb and .rpm packages for Ubuntu,
Debian, and Fedora, and also in .xo bundles, installable with
xo-get.py. Sugar Labs is working with other Linux distributions to
make Sugar packages available as wide
Hi all!
What are the red dots on the NAND's disk cluster/block/sector
visualization map when one does an update via USB stick and wipes the
contents of the XO? Bad blocks?
-Naz
--
Carlos Nazareno
http://www.object404.com
interactive media specialist
zen graffiti studios
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> I prefer "OLPC release 8.2"
I think this may confuse people. Without the qualifier "OS" or
"Software", people might thing this could be the XO's hardware
iteration (like B1, B2, B4)
Also, it might be good to toss in the XO's name in there to indicate
that this is the OS of the XO machine itself
Hi Sayamindu,
Are you maintaining Read now or is Morgan?
I got a ping from Brian who is in Rwanda and he confirmed that this bug:
http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/7090
was actually seen by kids there. Just as cjl predicted in Trac, it was
hit by kids on first exposure to the XO.
Can we get some at
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 3:47 PM, Sameer Verma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> As if discussions on this list aren't lively enough, here's another
> issue to look at.
This has been covered in many discussions - perhaps not so much on
this list but it's an important issue.
However, there is little we c
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 3:37 PM, Greg Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm going with XO Software Release 8.2.0 as the name of the next major
> release.
I prefer "OLPC release 8.2", until such time as OLPC either (a) makes
hardware other than the XO, or (b) ships/supports software other than
Suga
On Wednesday 08 October 2008 13:34:53 Greg Smith wrote:
> Hi Andres,
>
> Looks like I answered the wrong question, sorry :-(
>
> Can you tell us more about where the Moodle and EduBlog will be deployed?
>
> Will it go on the existing Debian based servers in Uruguay or will it go
> on a server which
I encourage those interested in Journal issues to attend my talk @ 1cc
next Wednesday, or to view the video of that talk when it's posted.
Most of the journal issues have straight-forward solutions.
Yesterday, I heard from the IT manager for the city of Key Largo,
Florida; his 60-year old govermen
Hi Naz,
I'm going with XO Software Release 8.2.0 as the name of the next major
release.
Not sure how official that is but I hope I can make it stick.
So its "XO Software" and for a specific release, add "Release n.n"
Thanks,
Greg S
*
From: "Carlos Nazareno" <[EMAIL PROT
The script needs the "tree" file and its corresponding .md5, not the
'tar.gz' file. The rest seems correct.
cheers,
m
On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 7:13 AM, Reuben K. Caron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm attempting to populate /library/pub/builds following the link:
>
> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 2:11 PM, Erik Garrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 07, 2008 at 06:14:16PM +0200, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote:
>> On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 6:33 PM, Erik Garrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > In my mind the fundamental problem is that users aren't required to
>> >
On Wed, Oct 08, 2008 at 08:30:27PM +0200, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 8:21 PM, Nia Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks, MArco. I still think talking to Erik like that isn't very nice
> > either:)
>
> Nia,
>
> this kind of "flames" are customary in a technical
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 8:30 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 8:21 PM, Nia Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks, MArco. I still think talking to Erik like that isn't very nice
>> either:)
>
> Nia,
>
> this kind of "flames" are customary in a techn
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 8:21 PM, Nia Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Thanks, MArco. I still think talking to Erik like that isn't very nice
> either:)
Nia,
this kind of "flames" are customary in a technical mailing list and I
don't really think Erik should take personal offence about them. If
Hey all! Quick question:
What's the official name/branding of the OS that ships with the OLPC?
It's not Sugar as that's the GUI, and neither is it Fedora 9 anymore
as it's been forked.
Can we clarify this as I find it really clunky in conversations
whenever I try to discuss it.
Does it have an
Recommend: lockable, secure case, with built-in securement loops that could
attach to a bike chain or cable.
--HH.
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 1:37 PM, John Watlington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Sameer,
>We currently do not recommend that an AA be used in schools.
> Scalability with AAs is a
John Gilmore wrote:
I prefer "the Sugar learning platform"
>
> And my laundress prefers "fabric revitalization consultant".
>
> Sugar isn't about learning. Sugar is a user interface. It draws
> icons and decorations on the screen, starts and stops programs, and
> lets you turn
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 8:08 PM, Nia Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi Marco,
>
> That was a really nice welcome. I work with Elana and the learning team here
> at OLPC and one thing we are trying to do is increase communications between
> our group and the technical side of the house. It see
I'm attempting to populate /library/pub/builds following the link:
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XS-rsync
I have tried making a usb key and tried from the command line.
Could someone please review the files I'm attempting this with located at:
http://dev.laptop.org/~reuben/xs-xobuilds/
Thanks,
Reu
On Tue, Oct 07, 2008 at 06:14:16PM +0200, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 6:33 PM, Erik Garrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > In my mind the fundamental problem is that users aren't required to
> > fully qualify names for their work. Doing so seems to lie outside of
> > one
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 7:32 PM, Ed McNierney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Paul -
>
> Thanks very much for this help. I've been wanting to be a "real user" of my
> XO more and this all helps me get pointed in the right direction. I'm also
> hoping the two hours I spend each day working on my XO on
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 1:05 PM, John Gilmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> I prefer "the Sugar learning platform"
>
> And my laundress prefers "fabric revitalization consultant".
>
> Sugar isn't about learning. Sugar is a user interface. It draws
I find your first statement wholly contestable
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On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 1:19 PM, John Watlington wrote:
> Please enter a ticket for this issue.
Done: http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/8791
Denver
http://ossguy.com/
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Sameer,
We currently do not recommend that an AA be used in schools.
Scalability with AAs is a problem, due to problems with the mesh
protocols. Hence my comment about likely needing an external
USB/network interface for the upstream connection.
This might make the physical security problem
Paul -
Thanks very much for this help. I've been wanting to be a "real user" of my
XO more and this all helps me get pointed in the right direction. I'm also
hoping the two hours I spend each day working on my XO on the commuter train
will be a tiny little marketing pitch prior to G1G1 Day on No
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 8:42 PM, John Watlington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Actually, Walter, we still hold hope for XOs as school servers
> for very small schools.The problem with this is insufficient
> memory and insufficient disk space. While an external disk
> may alleviate the second
Please enter a ticket for this issue. It is conceivable that
we might rely much more heavily on SD based storage
in the future. If it isn't rock-solid, we need to find out
why (or at least be aware of the issues.)
Thanks,
wad
On Oct 8, 2008, at 12:38 PM, Denver Gingerich wrote:
> -BEGIN
> >> I prefer "the Sugar learning platform"
And my laundress prefers "fabric revitalization consultant".
Sugar isn't about learning. Sugar is a user interface. It draws
icons and decorations on the screen, starts and stops programs, and
lets you turn control knobs. The things Sugar competes wi
as a follow-on to my "use your XO more" thread, here's a useful
way of sharing your "main" system's keyboard and mouse (including
copy and paste) with your XO, in a fairly natural way. these
instructions assume a linux desktop machine, but you can do this
with a mac or windows as well. see http:/
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On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 12:34 PM, Denver Gingerich wrote:
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> This issue remains present on the 2.6.26-20080731.1 kernel (available
> from http://dev.laptop.org/~dilinger/master/). However, it is
> slightly different. With the new kernel, there i
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On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 12:24 PM, Denver Gingerich wrote:
> On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 12:12 PM, C. Scott Ananian wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 10:52 PM, Denver Gingerich wrote:
>> > When booting 2.6.25 master kernels (specifically seen on 2008050
I prefer platform since I think the platform is a key element in the
overall environment.
-walter
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 12:11 PM, David Farning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This is also a Sugar Labs branding issue. Sugar Learning Platform does a
> better job of conveying we are not a stand alon
This is also a Sugar Labs branding issue. Sugar Learning Platform does a
better job of conveying we are not a stand alone solution. We are a common
point of collaboration on which educators and developers build solutions for
their own unique classrooms and situations.
thanks
david
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http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build2513
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On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 5:52 PM, Eben Eliason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 7:58 AM, Walter Bender <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I prefer "the Sugar learning platform"
>
> +1 from me as well. (I'm torn on "platform" vs. "environment"; the
> latter actually sounds a little frie
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 7:58 AM, Walter Bender <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I prefer "the Sugar learning platform"
+1 from me as well. (I'm torn on "platform" vs. "environment"; the
latter actually sounds a little friendlier, to me.)
- Eben
> -walter
>
> On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 4:35 AM, Tomeu Viz
Hi Andres,
Looks like I answered the wrong question, sorry :-(
Can you tell us more about where the Moodle and EduBlog will be deployed?
Will it go on the existing Debian based servers in Uruguay or will it go
on a server which is in a data center and access from Uruguay schools
via WAN (priva
Not yet... if someone wants to make a pdf from that page, this would
rock. Something to discuss on Friday. As for window manager v.
learning platform... an updated [[Glossary]] isn't a bad idea.
SJ
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 6:26 PM, Polychronis Ypodimatopoulos
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> is the
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 8:15 PM, Bert Freudenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Am 08.10.2008 um 16:14 schrieb Sayamindu Dasgupta:
>
>> On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 7:28 PM, Bert Freudenberg
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> We could shave off a few seconds of Etoys start-up time if, e.g., the
>>> Spanis
Am 08.10.2008 um 16:14 schrieb Sayamindu Dasgupta:
> On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 7:28 PM, Bert Freudenberg
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> We could shave off a few seconds of Etoys start-up time if, e.g., the
>> Spanish translation was pre-loaded. Also, having a localized package
>> would allow to i
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...
> To get developers eating dog food with the XO you would need the
> following:
>
> 1.) The Develop activity completed so it is usable for writing code
...
> 2.) An IMAP client Activity and corresponding IMAP server on a school
...
actually, i don't think e
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 7:28 PM, Bert Freudenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> We could shave off a few seconds of Etoys start-up time if, e.g., the
> Spanish translation was pre-loaded. Also, having a localized package
> would allow to include translated example projects and help guides
> (which ar
We could shave off a few seconds of Etoys start-up time if, e.g., the
Spanish translation was pre-loaded. Also, having a localized package
would allow to include translated example projects and help guides
(which are not covered by gettext-based translations).
Are there any plans to put spec
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 1:58 PM, Walter Bender <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I prefer "the Sugar learning platform"
+1
Marco
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Maybe you could rephrase you call for a show of hands: raise your left
hand if you regularly use Sugar on an XO; raise your right hand if you
use regularly Sugar on other hardware. Clap your hands if you use
Sugar more than a standard WM.
Now listen to the sound of one hand clapping (the right han
I prefer "the Sugar learning platform"
-walter
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 4:35 AM, Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 11:49 PM, Samuel Klein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> The laptops feature the latest release of the Sugar window manager, ...
>
> I think we should be
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 23:49, Samuel Klein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The laptops feature the latest release of the Sugar window manager, running
> on a Linux-based Fedora Core operating system. For answers to frequently
> asked questions, and for other XO giving programs, see the OLPC wiki.
Ju
Tomeu Vizoso schrieb:
> On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 11:49 PM, Samuel Klein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> The laptops feature the latest release of the Sugar window manager, ...
>>
>
> I think we should be able to find a better term than "window manager",
> Matchbox is the window manager used i
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 11:49 PM, Samuel Klein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> The laptops feature the latest release of the Sugar window manager, ...
I think we should be able to find a better term than "window manager",
Matchbox is the window manager used in 8.2 and it hasn't been modified
by OLPC
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 4:02 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> i _really_ think we need to make the XO base _and_ sugar be a
> place that developers are comfortable living in. our needs
> aren't quite the same as a school kid's, but i think there's a
> much bigger overlap than we often think. with
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