Re: [sugar] 9.1 Proposal: Printing support

2008-10-23 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 4:31 AM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 8:57 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: can's mdns/avahi help with discovery? it'd be a shame to have to manually configure a server address or name. DNS-SD is the Right Answer (which is not exactly

Re: [Server-devel] XS server

2008-10-23 Thread Martin Langhoff
2008/10/23 Henry Vélez Molina [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Verifying from the Terminal activity, we note that doing the ping schoolserver , he print ous: uknown host. We believe that the problem is the Access Point. I agree! That sounds like the AP is acting like a gateway (and that's not what you

Proposals for XO Mini-conference Due by Monday October 27

2008-10-23 Thread Greg Smith
Hi All, We are planning a mini-conference at OLPC headquarters November 17 - 21. For more information, see the conference wiki page at: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XOcamp_2 Please post any proposals for talks directly on the wiki page at: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XOcamp_2#Proposals Starting at

[Server-devel] Proposals for XO Mini-conference Due by Monday October 27

2008-10-23 Thread Greg Smith
Hi All, We are planning a mini-conference at OLPC headquarters November 17 - 21. For more information, see the conference wiki page at: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XOcamp_2 Please post any proposals for talks directly on the wiki page at: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XOcamp_2#Proposals Starting at

9.1 proposal: View source key everywhere

2008-10-23 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi, I think that with a small effort, we could implement something much better than what we have today. We have glorious plans for the view source key, but as no resources have been devoted to them, perhaps we should scale back and make sure that we provide the best we can today. And let the

Re: [sugar] 9.1 proposal: View source key everywhere

2008-10-23 Thread Walter Bender
I think that any activity that goes to the trouble of building their own view source mechanism can handle the added overhead of adding a line to the activity.info file. Seems like that is the easiest path. Doesn't it have any negative repercussions in the long term? -walter On Thu, Oct 23, 2008

Re: [sugar] 9.1 proposal: View source key everywhere

2008-10-23 Thread pgf
tomeu -- excellent! thanks for helping make progress on this. tomeu wrote: http://dev.laptop.org/~tomeu/viewsource.py This approach has a good thing that is that works everywhere, but has a major problem: doesn't let activities override it and handle themselves the view source key

Re: 9.1 proposal: View source key everywhere

2008-10-23 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 23.10.2008 um 14:53 schrieb Tomeu Vizoso: Hi, I think that with a small effort, we could implement something much better than what we have today. We have glorious plans for the view source key, but as no resources have been devoted to them, perhaps we should scale back and make sure

Re: [sugar] 9.1 proposal: View source key everywhere

2008-10-23 Thread pgf
bert wrote: Am 23.10.2008 um 15:15 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: an addition to activity.info, with sensible defaults, would be the best bet, i think. This would mean that sometimes the shell and sometimes the activity would have to handle that key, which is fragile. I'd opt for

Re: [sugar] 9.1 proposal: View source key everywhere

2008-10-23 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 23.10.2008 um 15:33 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: bert wrote: Am 23.10.2008 um 15:15 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: an addition to activity.info, with sensible defaults, would be the best bet, i think. This would mean that sometimes the shell and sometimes the activity would have to handle

Re: Feature Roadmap and Miniconference Meeting Notes

2008-10-23 Thread Greg Smith
Hi All, I need to move the weekly future feature planning meeting next week. The next meeting will be Wed. October 29 in IRC, freenode.net #olpc-meeting channel at 1PM US ET (not 2PM as previously communicated). I have a hard stop at the end of one hour so we will try to stay on agenda. I

Re: 9.1 Proposal: Power.

2008-10-23 Thread Eben Eliason
I could be talking nonsense, and perhaps this would consume more power than it saves, but if you were able to slowly dim the backlight over the course of a minute or so, instead of waiting a minute and then dropping it suddenly, we could prevent the sudden change which causes a break in

Re: [sugar] 9.1 proposal: View source key everywhere

2008-10-23 Thread pgf
bert wrote: Am 23.10.2008 um 15:33 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: bert wrote: Am 23.10.2008 um 15:15 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: an addition to activity.info, with sensible defaults, would be the best bet, i think. This would mean that sometimes the shell and sometimes the

MD5 Sum for 767 images

2008-10-23 Thread Greg Smith
Hi All, Can someone post the MD5 Sum details for the 8.2 images linked from the release notes? See the request at: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Talk:Release_notes/8.2.0 Thanks, Greg S ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org

Thread on a new model for collaboration

2008-10-23 Thread Greg Smith
Hi All, Below is a thread I had with Juliano (learning team member with lots of experience in Brazil and more recently Rwanda) on collaboration. I wanted to share it with everyone, mostly verbatim. I haven't had time to edit this for the list but I wanted to share it before waiting any

Re: MD5 Sum for 767 images

2008-10-23 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 11:34 AM, Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can someone post the MD5 Sum details for the 8.2 images linked from the release notes? See the request at: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Talk:Release_notes/8.2.0 Sums are alongside each file at

Re: [sugar] 9.1 proposal: View source key everywhere

2008-10-23 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 9:33 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sure, that's fine. but i think we need to keep thinking about how to support of non-, or not-fully-sugarized applications with every new feature we do (as well as with every revision of old features). I've got a half-baked idea about

Re: Proposals for XO Mini-conference Due by Monday October 27

2008-10-23 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 7:43 AM, Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We are planning a mini-conference at OLPC headquarters November 17 - 21. Starting at the end of the day US ET, Monday October 27th we will review all proposals and begin setting the agenda for the conference. It would

Re: DISPLAY variable in 767?

2008-10-23 Thread C. Scott Ananian
2008/10/22 Ian Daniher [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'm curious what the DISPLAY variable is in os767 as I used to be able to set it to 0:0 and launch gui apps(mplayer) from the command line. I'm working on the mother-of-all media center scripts and could use some help. I'll share this script upon

Re: 9.1 Proposal: Power.

2008-10-23 Thread Jim Gettys
How well we can do that isn't clear. We have 16 brightness levels, but we didn't think about making them logarithmic in response to correspond to the eye's behavior, so there are really fewer than that that are useful. Please experiment and see if it is helpful, of course...

Re: 9.1 Proposal: Power.

2008-10-23 Thread Ian Daniher
Hello all, This is somewhat on-topic, as this code can be used to test the smoothness of diming the backlight by editing SLP in the included code. I originally wrote this as I'm planning on using an XO motherboard/screen as an alarm clock, and will have the brightness set via some fancy HR=$(date

9.1 Proposal: Compatibility with desktop applications

2008-10-23 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
Two high level goals: * Make desktop applications run without modifications in the Sugar shell and integrate as much as possible with it. * Make activities run on a standard desktop, as long as the required services are installed. Problems we need to solve to make this possible: * Our icon

Re: 9.1 Proposal: Power.

2008-10-23 Thread Nate Ridderman
Do we have the ability to pulse width modulate the backlight LEDs? What is the resolution on the PWM? It's hard to know if this is feasible without a hardware schematic and specs on the backlight driver. The CL1 spec mentions a PWM signal, but maybe it only has four bits of resolution? In the

9.1 Proposal: Top five performance problems

2008-10-23 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
Problems and ideas in no particular order. * Sugar shell startup is too slow. Reduce dependencies, single process shell, modularize and delay initialization of components which are not immediately necessary, measure constantly to avoid regressions and monitor progress. * Icons rendering is slow

9.1 Proposal: Web based activities

2008-10-23 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
Several activities needs a web view and currently duplicate a lot of Browse code to implement one. This is a maintenance nigthmare. I would like to provide a trivial way to create such activities using sugar-toolkit. I'm looking for feedback about the required functionalities of such API and

Re: 9.1 Proposal: Top five performance problems

2008-10-23 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 1:56 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Activity startup is ridiculously slow. Design an API incompatible Activity class. Start from a very basic window and add functionalities on the top of it, trying to not regress startup time. Make sure that

Re: Babbage Net School (Chicago Tutoring Center) Laptop Deployment

2008-10-23 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 8:02 PM, Victoria Blackaby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We've spoken a few times on the IRC chat line. I'm Victoria from Chicago, trying to deploy XO's for a tutoring center. I've spoken with you and Mitch about using a fedora base with fvwm to handle our tutoring

Re: XS server

2008-10-23 Thread Henry Vélez Molina
If you cna wait a few days for the final release of 0.5, then yes. ok Thanks ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel