Re: Cmap tools (with image customization cross over)

2008-12-23 Thread Daniel Drake
On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 8:35 PM, Greg Smith wrote: > Dan, > > Here's a good use case for the "image customization" feature. To install > Cmap, I open the X activity, downloaded a zip, then unpacked it which > created a bin file. I made that executable and ran it which launched an > installer which

New staging build 7

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New joyride build 2607

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New joyride build 2607

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Re: Devel Digest, Vol 34, Issue 86

2008-12-23 Thread Mitch Bradley
d...@laptop.org wrote: > On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 8:08 PM, wrote: > >> ssh host keys are probably generated on first boot as well. >> >> with partitioning support, it should be possible to have a r.o. root >> overlaid by a unionfs writeable mount, so machine-specific changes >> don't modify the

Re: Cmap tools (with image customization cross over)

2008-12-23 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 24.12.2008, at 00:16, da...@lang.hm wrote: > On Tue, 23 Dec 2008, Greg Smith wrote: > >> Hi Bert, >> >> That strategy sounds good to me if its easy. You still need a custom >> "image" because the end result should be something which can be >> quickly >> installed on 10K or more XOs via: >> -

Re: Cmap tools (with image customization cross over)

2008-12-23 Thread david
On Tue, 23 Dec 2008, Greg Smith wrote: > Hi Bert, > > That strategy sounds good to me if its easy. You still need a custom > "image" because the end result should be something which can be quickly > installed on 10K or more XOs via: > - USB > - olpc-update over WAN or from XS > - NAND Blaster > >

Re: Deployment image customization

2008-12-23 Thread Mitch Bradley
Michael Stone wrote: > On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 03:29:08PM -0500, p...@laptop.org wrote: > >> daniel wrote: >> >>> On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 8:08 PM, wrote: >>> ssh host keys are probably generated on first boot as well. with partitioning support, it should be possible

Re: Cmap tools (with image customization cross over)

2008-12-23 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 23.12.2008, at 22:17, Greg Smith wrote: > Hi Bert, > > That strategy sounds good to me if its easy. You still need a custom > "image" because the end result should be something which can be > quickly installed on 10K or more XOs via: > - USB > - olpc-update over WAN or from XS > - NAND Bla

Re: Deployment image customization

2008-12-23 Thread Michael Stone
On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 03:29:08PM -0500, p...@laptop.org wrote: >daniel wrote: > > On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 8:08 PM, wrote: > > > ssh host keys are probably generated on first boot as well. > > > > > > with partitioning support, it should be possible to have a r.o. root > > > overlaid by a unionf

Re: Cmap tools (with image customization cross over)

2008-12-23 Thread Greg Smith
Hi Bert, That strategy sounds good to me if its easy. You still need a custom "image" because the end result should be something which can be quickly installed on 10K or more XOs via: - USB - olpc-update over WAN or from XS - NAND Blaster That said, making it an activity would make it easy to u

Re: Cmap tools (with image customization cross over)

2008-12-23 Thread Bert Freudenberg
The better approach would be to install everything into the bundle directory itself. Then simply zip it and you should have a working xo bundle. A custom build should not be necessary for this. - Bert - On 23.12.2008, at 21:35, Greg Smith wrote: > Hi Bert, > > Thanks. It was actually right c

Re: Cmap tools (with image customization cross over)

2008-12-23 Thread Greg Smith
Hi Bert, Thanks. It was actually right click for me but that did it. I installed the Cmap tools from within the X activity and it mostly worked. A few oddities in the X activity like the arrow keys not working but nothing fatal. I'll follow up with the Cmap people and see if they can move it a

Re: Deployment image customization

2008-12-23 Thread pgf
daniel wrote: > On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 8:08 PM, wrote: > > ssh host keys are probably generated on first boot as well. > > > > with partitioning support, it should be possible to have a r.o. root > > overlaid by a unionfs writeable mount, so machine-specific changes > > don't modify the re

Re: Deployment image customization

2008-12-23 Thread Daniel Drake
On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 8:08 PM, wrote: > ssh host keys are probably generated on first boot as well. > > with partitioning support, it should be possible to have a r.o. root > overlaid by a unionfs writeable mount, so machine-specific changes > don't modify the released partition. this would ma

Re: Deployment image customization

2008-12-23 Thread pgf
morgan wrote: > On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 18:29, Daniel Drake wrote: > > On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 2:19 PM, Greg Smith > > wrote: ... > >> The biggest challenge I see is to find those things which you do not want > >> to > >> "clone" from the source XO. The only things that come to mind are

Re: Deployment image customization

2008-12-23 Thread Michael Stone
On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 11:46:09AM -0800, Edward Cherlin wrote: >On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 11:26 AM, Michael Stone wrote: >> On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 09:18:51PM +0200, Morgan Collett wrote: >>>On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 18:29, Daniel Drake wrote: On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 2:19 PM, Greg Smith

Re: Deployment image customization

2008-12-23 Thread Daniel Drake
On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 5:31 PM, Greg Smith wrote: > Both have challenges. My preference is clone because I think its easier for > the end user (create an XO the way you like it then click "clone"). However, > we need to figure out the list of things that should not be cloned as you > mention. It

Re: Problems revealed by a report of detailed changes to 8.2.1 tickets.

2008-12-23 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 10:40 AM, Ed McNierney wrote: > Thanks for the help! I think we seem to be in a state where the "first > option" (making one RC build with all fixes) is reasonable. It also seems > like getting a staging build for early testing today would also be helpful, > as there are

Re: Deployment image customization

2008-12-23 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 11:26 AM, Michael Stone wrote: > On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 09:18:51PM +0200, Morgan Collett wrote: >>On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 18:29, Daniel Drake wrote: >>> On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 2:19 PM, Greg Smith wrote: Your suggestion that we allow addition of RPMs and get th

[Server-devel] XS 0.5.1-dev03 with ejabberd goodness, kernel bling, Access Point workingness... looking for xmas testers

2008-12-23 Thread Martin Langhoff
You know you need a reason to escape the family reunion. Why sit through kids screaming, grandpas dozing off and grannies complaining when you can be savouring the grand School Server build? Wrap a gift, test a server! size 549M sha1sum eab0fd3596bbfca532eec51eb5e774cb00b25cd8 http://xs-dev.

Re: Deployment image customization

2008-12-23 Thread Michael Stone
On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 09:18:51PM +0200, Morgan Collett wrote: >On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 18:29, Daniel Drake wrote: >> On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 2:19 PM, Greg Smith wrote: >>> Your suggestion that we allow >>> addition of RPMs and get those built into a signed image via "pilgrim or >>> puritan" is

Re: Deployment image customization

2008-12-23 Thread Morgan Collett
On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 18:29, Daniel Drake wrote: > On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 2:19 PM, Greg Smith wrote: >> Your suggestion that we allow >> addition of RPMs and get those built into a signed image via "pilgrim or >> puritan" is certainly valuable and part of the requirement. >> >> However, it doe

Re: Cmap tools

2008-12-23 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Click to bring up a menu and open a terminal. Alternatively, edit the ".xinitrc" file to auto-launch any X applications you want started ("xterm &" is a common choice) before executing the window manager. This is also how you would bundle and launch a regular X app like cmap. - Bert - On 2

Re: Deployment image customization

2008-12-23 Thread Greg Smith
Hi Dan, Those sound like two good steps. I think we should make a design decision here to either: 1 - "clone" minus a list of configurations or 2 - Extend customization to include everything relevant for a deployment. Both have challenges. My preference is clone because I think its easier for t

Re: Deployment image customization

2008-12-23 Thread Daniel Drake
On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 2:19 PM, Greg Smith wrote: > Your suggestion that we allow > addition of RPMs and get those built into a signed image via "pilgrim or > puritan" is certainly valuable and part of the requirement. > > However, it doesn't cover a few added things (language settings was > spec

Re: New Browse ready for Emilianio?

2008-12-23 Thread Sayamindu Dasgupta
Hi Greg, It has not passed through formal QA (yet), but there is a test case on http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/9112 I tried it out on 767, and it seems to work fine. I did not test on 656. The bundle can be downloaded from http://dev.laptop.org/raw-attachment/ticket/9112/Browse-101.xo Thanks, Sayamin

Re: Problems revealed by a report of detailed changes to 8.2.1 tickets.

2008-12-23 Thread Ed McNierney
Scott - Thanks for the help! I think we seem to be in a state where the "first option" (making one RC build with all fixes) is reasonable. It also seems like getting a staging build for early testing today would also be helpful, as there are enough substantial "test in build" tickets available a

Re: [Server-devel] Fwd: [ejabberd] Fix or workaround for EJAB-731 - shared roster fails to show new user accts

2008-12-23 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 12:48 PM, Martin Langhoff wrote: > Ok, the merge was tricky, but it's done, and it seems to work too. Pushed out the merge to a git repo too http://dev.laptop.org/git?p=users/martin/ejabberd-xs.git;a=commitdiff;h=7b0ea0adba805e342e23b21b003e3bae6591af72 You can git clone

Re: Cmap tools

2008-12-23 Thread Greg Smith
Hi Michael and Bert, It got quiet enough that I had a chance to try this myself. I tried installing and running the X activity and I tried following the instructions here: http://www.hackszine.com/blog/archive/2007/12/run_a_nested_x11_desktop_on_th.html In both cases I got a gray screen wit

[Server-devel] New ejabberd-xs package, fixes presence issues, for testing...

2008-12-23 Thread Martin Langhoff
head towards your friendly commandline, and say... yum --enablerepo=olpcxs-testing install ejabberd-xs and it should bring in ejabberd-xs-2.0.1-12.fc9.olpc.i386.rpm which has the fixes. This nees a bit of testing outside of my lab, if I hear from you that it's working, then we have a xs-0.5.1 .

New Browse ready for Emilianio?

2008-12-23 Thread Greg Smith
Hi Sayamindu, Do you think the new browse version (101?) has been shown to solve the problem Emliano raised here? http://www.mail-archive.com/devel@lists.laptop.org/msg14839.html Has it been tested with build 656 or only 767 (8.2)? If we have verified that it solves the issue raised, let's ask

Re: [Server-devel] Fwd: [ejabberd] Fix or workaround for EJAB-731 - shared roster fails to show new user accts

2008-12-23 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 7:11 AM, Guillaume Desmottes > This patch was started by Rob and then finished/polished by P1. The > rational was to create new kind of shared roster groups that would be a > subset of @all@ to, hopefully, improve the scalability issues. Ok, the merge was tricky, but it's d

Re: performance work

2008-12-23 Thread Greg Smith
Jordan and Neil, That's great work, thanks! Eben, Neil and Sugar people, Can you tell from the test descriptions below which of these operations we are most likely to encounter in the XO GUI? I think we can use the Cairo trace utility S found: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Performance_tuning#Othe

Cairo and X optimization (was Re: performance work)

2008-12-23 Thread Greg Smith
Hi Jordan et al, Thanks a lot for the advice. I'm forking this thread and will reply on the other one too. One question here on your suggested methodology. Are you suggesting that we try those X composite hooks and then re-run the benchmark to see if it improves? All, Is anyone interested in

Deployment image customization

2008-12-23 Thread Greg Smith
Hi Dan, Thanks for the comments on the image customization feature: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Feature_roadmap/Image_customization I moved them from the requirements to the specification section because I think you are proposing a possible solution. Your suggestion that we allow addition of RPMs

OT: OLPC for Vision

2008-12-23 Thread Carlos Nazareno
Hi all! Just a bit of inspiration for everyone hard at work in here: Inventor's 2020 vision: to help 1bn of the world's poorest see better Professor pioneers DIY adjustable glasses that do not need an optician http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2008/dec/22/diy-adjustable-glasses-josh-silver Same

Re: New joyride build 2605

2008-12-23 Thread Morgan Collett
On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 03:41, Mikus Grinbergs wrote: >> +sugar-base 0.83.2-2.olpc4 > > Good to see this up-leveled -- the previous version of this package > as distributed in Joyride was more than a month old. > > However, that still leaves several packages which appear to be more > recent in 'ol