Re: [Sugar-devel] Pippy not ready for Sucrose

2009-01-27 Thread Simon Schampijer
Brian Jordan wrote: On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 2:21 PM, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de wrote: Simon Schampijer wrote: Hi, the Sucrose package of Pippy is version 25 - when I last released it back in August. Since then there has been some development going into Pippy (now version 30)

Turning off the mesh to save battery power

2009-01-27 Thread Bryan Berry
hey guys, here in Nepal we are deciding whether or not to turn off the mesh on our custom XO build in order to save power. We will leave on regular wifi. Any ideas on how much power we will actually save? An extra hour of battery life would be worth it -- Bryan W. Berry Technology Director OLE

Turning off the mesh to save battery power

2009-01-27 Thread Bryan Berry
hey guys, here in Nepal we are deciding whether or not to turn off the mesh on our custom XO build in order to save power. We will leave on regular wifi. Any ideas on how much power we will actually save? An extra hour of battery life would be worth it -- Bryan W. Berry Technology Director OLE

Re: [Testing] Notes from an impromptu 8.2.1 Release Mtg.

2009-01-27 Thread Ties Stuij
Guys, could someone update the mock 8.2.1 repos git repo? would make my life a lot easier and seems like a sensible thing to do. Thanks a lot! /Ties On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 1:29 AM, Michael Stone mich...@laptop.org wrote: Hi folks, Kim Quirk kindly stopped by #olpc-meeting this evening and

Re: Notes from an impromptu 8.2.1 Release Mtg.

2009-01-27 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 27.01.2009, at 05:33, S Page wrote: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Friends_in_testing still points to staging-7 and says The 8.2.1 build is currently identical to 8.2.0. ??! It still is identical: http://dev.laptop.org/~bert/8.2-8.2.1.html Staging is not 8.2.1 (yet). - Bert -

Re: Notes from an impromptu 8.2.1 Release Mtg.

2009-01-27 Thread Daniel Drake
2009/1/27 S Page i...@skierpage.com: `sudo olpc-update staging-9` gives I don't think the requested build number exists. I get the same for staging-11, I guess we have to use the full .img (or olpc-update --usb) for now: http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/xo-1/streams/staging/build11/devel_jffs2/

Re: multitouch + audio feedback linux dev - XO-2?

2009-01-27 Thread Wade Brainerd
On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 11:57 PM, da...@lang.hm wrote: On Mon, 26 Jan 2009, Wade Brainerd wrote: Here's to staying focused, agreed, but I don't see how you can do a keyboard and not have some multi-touch stuff (shift keys to start with) I am in the group that has serious doubts about the

[Server-devel] Upgrade to 0.5.1

2009-01-27 Thread Reuben K. Caron
There seems to be a differing set of instructions on how to upgrade: from the wiki: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XS_Installing_Software#Upgrading_from_XS_0.4_or_earlier If you are upgrading from XS 0.4 or earlier, the process is similar to a new installation, with some minor changes. In the menu

Re: Problem running Sugar on openSUSE 11.0

2009-01-27 Thread James Simmons
Jigish, I am convinced that my installation of openSUSE 11.1 is messed up and my best option is to do a fresh install rather than an upgrade. David Fanning had asked me to do a ./sugar-jhbuild depscheck and the only way I could run that was to do a git-clone of sugar-jhbuild first. When I

Re: Problem running Sugar on openSUSE 11.0

2009-01-27 Thread James Simmons
Tomeu, As I have described in a previous email, I think my openSUSE 11.1 upgrade is messed up. Several files seem to be missing even though YAST and rpm -V show the packages being installed. I plan to do a fresh install rather than an upgrade to see if that helps. I did run the command

New staging build 13

2009-01-27 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/xo-1/streams/staging/build13 Changes in build 13 from build: 11 Size delta: 0.00M -sugar-journal 100-1.olpc3 +sugar-journal 101-1.olpc3 -- This mail was automatically generated See http://dev.laptop.org/~rwh/announcer/staging-pkgs.html for aggregate logs

New staging build 13

2009-01-27 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/xo-1/streams/staging/build13 Changes in build 13 from build: 11 Size delta: 0.00M -sugar-journal 100-1.olpc3 +sugar-journal 101-1.olpc3 -- This mail was automatically generated See http://dev.laptop.org/~rwh/announcer/staging-pkgs.html for aggregate logs

VIG Meeting Today at 4 PM EST

2009-01-27 Thread Ed McNierney
This is a reminder of the weekly VIG meeting at 4 PM EST in #olpc- admin on oftc. I have had a few things come up and I will be unable to attend or chair the meeting today. Henry has generously volunteered to serve as our secretary; if someone else would like to step in to chair today's

New staging build 15

2009-01-27 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/xo-1/streams/staging/build15 Changes in build 15 from build: 13 Size delta: 0.00M -olpc-utils 0.89-5.olpc3 +olpc-utils 0.89-6.olpc3 -libX11 1.1.4-3.olpc3 +libX11 1.1.4-4.olpc3 -xkeyboard-config 1.3-6.olpc3 +xkeyboard-config 1.3-7.olpc3 -- This mail was

Soas snapshot

2009-01-27 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
You can download the iso here: http://download.sugarlabs.org/soas/snapshots/1/Soas-200901271941.iso Instructions on how to install it are here: http://sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick I also made an experimental image for the XO. It's not signed, so you will need security disabled, if you

AMD to stop working on Geodes

2009-01-27 Thread Carlos Nazareno
AMD sees no Geode chip replacement in sight AMD on Monday said it has no replacement for the aging Geode low-power chips that are used in netbooks and set-top boxes. http://www.pcworld.idg.com.au/article/274414/amd_sees_no_geode_chip_replacement_sight Looks like AMD's going to be pulling out of

Re: AMD to stop working on Geodes

2009-01-27 Thread Jeffrey Kesselman
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 6:04 PM, Carlos Nazareno object...@gmail.com wrote: e of the economic crunch. This is completely wrong and low-power + efficiency is exactly where all computing should go. multicore GHz monsters should be sold to people who really need them and not to joe average who

Re: Soas snapshot

2009-01-27 Thread Gary C Martin
Hi Marco, On 27 Jan 2009, at 23:00, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: You can download the iso here: http://download.sugarlabs.org/soas/snapshots/1/Soas-200901271941.iso Instructions on how to install it are here: http://sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick I also made an experimental image for

Re: AMD to stop working on Geodes

2009-01-27 Thread Tiago Marques
Hi. On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 11:14 PM, Jeffrey Kesselman jef...@gmail.comwrote: On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 6:04 PM, Carlos Nazareno object...@gmail.com wrote: e of the economic crunch. This is completely wrong and low-power + efficiency is exactly where all computing should go. multicore GHz

Re: AMD to stop working on Geodes

2009-01-27 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 12:04 PM, Carlos Nazareno object...@gmail.com wrote: AMD sees no Geode chip replacement in sight AMD on Monday said it has no replacement for the aging Geode low-power chips that are used in netbooks and set-top boxes.

Re: AMD to stop working on Geodes

2009-01-27 Thread Carlos Nazareno
it's the low power part that's very important here. it's the XO's incredibly low power consumption that really sets it apart from any other currently in production computer (excluding smartphones and pdas). I'm not really familiar with the new processors from Intel (silverthorne, diamondville)

Re: AMD to stop working on Geodes

2009-01-27 Thread Tiago Marques
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 12:35 AM, Carlos Nazareno object...@gmail.comwrote: it's the low power part that's very important here. it's the XO's incredibly low power consumption that really sets it apart from any other currently in production computer (excluding smartphones and pdas). Of

Re: AMD to stop working on Geodes (Carlos Nazareno)

2009-01-27 Thread Mitch Bradley
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 12:04 PM, Carlos Nazareno object...@gmail.com wrote: AMD sees no Geode chip replacement in sight AMD on Monday said it has no replacement for the aging Geode low-power chips that are used in netbooks and set-top boxes.

Re: AMD to stop working on Geodes

2009-01-27 Thread Jerome Gotangco
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 7:04 AM, Carlos Nazareno object...@gmail.com wrote: Looks like AMD's going to be pulling out of the low-power computing space because of the economic crunch. At least they're not completely shutting down the fabrication of existing technologies that would still need

Re: Small DNS questions.

2009-01-27 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 8:06 AM, Michael Stone mich...@laptop.org wrote: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Network_principles#Name_resolution Even if we were to do all sorts of DNS smartypants stuff - the only protocol where we can play games is http. The protocol is highly proxy-able, redirect-able

Re: AMD to stop working on Geodes

2009-01-27 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
Carlos Nazareno wrote: Do ARM processors do these things better than anything else on the market right now? but then you lose the X86 compatibility and this probably breaks things for cross-platform upstream contributions for any deved/researched write-once-run-many apps/projects. (correct me

Re: Turning off the mesh to save battery power

2009-01-27 Thread John Gilmore
hey guys, here in Nepal we are deciding whether or not to turn off the mesh on our custom XO build in order to save power. We will leave on regular wifi. Any ideas on how much power we will actually save? An extra hour of battery life would be worth it (1) Try it and see, that's probably

Re: Problem running Sugar on openSUSE 11.0

2009-01-27 Thread Jigish Gohil
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 8:49 PM, James Simmons jim.simm...@walgreens.com wrote: Jigish, I am convinced that my installation of openSUSE 11.1 is messed up and my best option is to do a fresh install rather than an upgrade. David Fanning had asked me to do a ./sugar-jhbuild depscheck and the

Re: AMD to stop working on Geodes (Carlos Nazareno)

2009-01-27 Thread Sameer Verma
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 5:14 PM, Mitch Bradley w...@laptop.org wrote: On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 12:04 PM, Carlos Nazareno object...@gmail.com wrote: AMD sees no Geode chip replacement in sight AMD on Monday said it has no replacement for the aging Geode low-power chips that are used in

New staging build 21

2009-01-27 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/xo-1/streams/staging/build21 Changes in build 21 from build: 15 Size delta: 0.00M -libX11 1.1.4-4.olpc3 +libX11 1.1.4-5.olpc3 -- This mail was automatically generated See http://dev.laptop.org/~rwh/announcer/staging-pkgs.html for aggregate logs See

XS-0.5.1 is all go.

2009-01-27 Thread Martin Langhoff
It's a bit of a non-event, the code has been there for quite a while. So I am just making it official: 0.5.1 is the XS image to use. Grab it at http://xs-dev.laptop.org/xs/ It fixes the issues outlined in

Re: AMD to stop working on Geodes (Carlos Nazareno)

2009-01-27 Thread John Watlington
On Jan 27, 2009, at 8:14 PM, Mitch Bradley wrote: On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 12:04 PM, Carlos Nazareno object...@gmail.com wrote: AMD sees no Geode chip replacement in sight AMD on Monday said it has no replacement for the aging Geode low- power chips that are used in netbooks and set-top

Re: AMD to stop working on Geodes (Carlos Nazareno)

2009-01-27 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 8:39 PM, Sameer Verma sve...@sfsu.edu wrote: On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 5:14 PM, Mitch Bradley w...@laptop.org wrote: On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 12:04 PM, Carlos Nazareno object...@gmail.com wrote: AMD sees no Geode chip replacement in sight AMD on Monday said it has no

Re: AMD to stop working on Geodes (Carlos Nazareno)

2009-01-27 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 10:32 PM, Edward Cherlin echer...@gmail.com wrote: AMD bought the Geode business from another company. National Semiconductor, which bought the line from Cyrix. I edited several of the pin- and register-level manuals for various chips for them more than ten years ago,

Re: AMD to stop working on Geodes

2009-01-27 Thread Edward Cherlin
2009/1/27 Benjamin M. Schwartz bmsch...@fas.harvard.edu: Carlos Nazareno wrote: Do ARM processors do these things better than anything else on the market right now? but then you lose the X86 compatibility and this probably breaks things for cross-platform upstream contributions for any

Re: Turning off the mesh to save battery power

2009-01-27 Thread Bryan Berry
On Tue, 2009-01-27 at 19:26 -0800, John Gilmore wrote: hey guys, here in Nepal we are deciding whether or not to turn off the mesh on our custom XO build in order to save power. We will leave on regular wifi. Any ideas on how much power we will actually save? An extra hour of battery

Re: Notes from an impromptu 8.2.1 Release Mtg.

2009-01-27 Thread John Watlington
We are definitely recommending that they stop using MPP mode (at least an automatic one.) On Jan 23, 2009, at 7:11 AM, Martin Langhoff wrote: On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 8:44 PM, Michael Stone mich...@laptop.org wrote: http://dev.laptop.org/report/38 A quick side-note here - reviewing the

Re: [Server-devel] updates

2009-01-27 Thread Jerry Vonau
On Mon, 2009-01-26 at 17:08 -0500, Martin Langhoff wrote: On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 12:19 PM, Jerry Vonau jvo...@shaw.ca wrote: latest re-roll of anaconda, srpms, rpms and patch used, updated mkusbinstall for the XO at: http://members.shaw.ca/jvonau/pub/anaconda/ That's such good news.

Re: [Server-devel] Upgrade to 0.5.1

2009-01-27 Thread Martin Langhoff
2009/1/28 Reuben K. Caron reu...@laptop.org: 1. Which should be used. Good spotting. Initially I thought kickstart could drive upgrades. It cannot. So it's the one of the top options path that actually works. I'll fix the wiki... And at some point when we get a chance to improve the sysconfig