Re: OLPC upgrades

2009-02-03 Thread Bobby Powers
2009/2/2 Tiago Marques tiago...@gmail.com: On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 4:03 AM, Mitch Bradley w...@laptop.org wrote: Guess what? The people at OLPC, who aren't stupid, already considered every point in the message cited below, a long time ago. So why aren't we doing them? ...* *On Wed, Jan 28,

Re: [Sugar-devel] Is it possible to disable sharing for an Activity?

2009-02-03 Thread Morgan Collett
On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 01:21, Wade Brainerd wad...@gmail.com wrote: There might be something in the Sugar Almanac, see http://sugarlabs.org/go/ActivityTeam/Resources for a link. Alternately, an example of how to disable sharing is here:

Re: readetexts and viewslides moved to git.sugarlabs.org

2009-02-03 Thread Gary C Martin
On 19 Jan 2009, at 17:28, Morgan Collett wrote: On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 17:52, Gary C Martin g...@garycmartin.com wrote: On 19 Jan 2009, at 15:19, James Simmons wrote: Over the weekend I updated Read Etexts and View Slides to be more like the current Read activity. Previously they

Re: OLPC upgrades

2009-02-03 Thread Wade Brainerd
A patch isn't really appropriate but generally speaking I: - Followed Mitch Bradley's instructions for tar-ing /dev. - Replaced the initrd with a 3 liner using busybox that just mounts NAND and calls switch_root. This involved undoing all the version stuff in the filesystem. - Replaced

New joyride build 2640

2009-02-03 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build2640 Changes in build 2640 from build: 2639 Size delta: 0.13M -libxml2-python 2.7.2-2.fc10 +libxml2-python 2.7.3-1.fc10 -glib2 2.18.3-2.fc10 +glib2 2.18.4-1.fc10 -gnome-themes 2.24.1-1.fc10 +gnome-themes 2.24.3-1.fc10 -gtk2

New joyride build 2640

2009-02-03 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build2640 Changes in build 2640 from build: 2639 Size delta: 0.13M -libxml2-python 2.7.2-2.fc10 +libxml2-python 2.7.3-1.fc10 -glib2 2.18.3-2.fc10 +glib2 2.18.4-1.fc10 -gnome-themes 2.24.1-1.fc10 +gnome-themes 2.24.3-1.fc10 -gtk2

View Slides is in git.sugarlabs.org

2009-02-03 Thread James Simmons
Wade, The current View Slides sends the whole slideshow in a Zip file over the network. These slideshow Zip files can be 20-60 meg and I find that sharing files of that size just doesn't work. Worse, if the original file is still being shared it is impossible to resume a document you have

Re: View Slides is in git.sugarlabs.org

2009-02-03 Thread Nate Ridderman
There was an email thread about problems with git.sugarlabs.org not long ago - see http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2009-January/011132.html. I was having the same problem and I sent an email to syst...@sugarlabs.org. I'm not sure if it was ever resolved for my account, because I

Re: [Sugar-devel] Is it possible to disable sharing for an Activity?

2009-02-03 Thread James Simmons
Morgan, This is *exactly* what I was looking for, thanks. As a bonus I can get rid of the keep button as well, which is of no use to me. James Simmons Morgan Collett wrote: On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 01:21, Wade Brainerd wad...@gmail.com wrote: There might be something in the Sugar

Re: Devel Digest, Vol 36, Issue 12

2009-02-03 Thread Mitch Bradley
Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 07:57:02 -0500 From: Wade Brainerd wad...@gmail.com Subject: Re: OLPC upgrades To: C. Scott Ananian csc...@laptop.org Cc: OLPC Devel devel@lists.laptop.org Message-ID: 377b4440-aad7-412c-b22b-16158d6f4...@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii;

Deployment Support Mtg -- Today, 2000 UTC, #olpc-deployment

2009-02-03 Thread Michael Stone
Hey folks, This is just to remind you that we'll be meeting at 2000 UTC today (3:00 PM Boston) in #olpc-deployment on irc.freenode.net to chat about deployment support topics. Detailed minutes from this meeting will appear at http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Deployment_meetings/20090203

Re: OLPC upgrades

2009-02-03 Thread S Page
Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: Since you're looking at making a gentoo-based sugar distro, you might find http://gitorious.org/projects/sugar-gentoo useful :) Please update http://sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Gentoo , which lists a similar overlay project

Re: OLPC upgrades

2009-02-03 Thread Nirbheek Chauhan
On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 2:12 AM, S Page i...@skierpage.com wrote: Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: Since you're looking at making a gentoo-based sugar distro, you might find http://gitorious.org/projects/sugar-gentoo useful :) Please update http://sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Gentoo ,

Re: x11vnc and vncviewer for classroom

2009-02-03 Thread ggeist
Is this Anna Schoolfield from Central Alabama Mensa? Remember me? Gene Geist. Its been a long time so I wouldn't blame you. Anna-2 wrote: *My previous post turned up blank for some reason. Sorry about that. Hopefully this works* From the original email by Arjun Sarwal: The

Re: [Sur] Deployment Support Mtg -- Today, 2000 UTC, #olpc-deployment

2009-02-03 Thread Pilar Saenz
soporte de las implementaciones. Un detallado resumen de esta reunion aparecer√° en http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Deployment_meetings/20090203 los resumenes de las reuniones anteriores se pueden encontrar en http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Deployment_meetings#Meeting_notes Si quiere tener una agenda, por

Re: [Sur] Deployment Support Mtg -- Today, 2000 UTC, #olpc-deployment

2009-02-03 Thread Pilar Saenz
at http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Deployment_meetings/20090203 alongside the minutes from previous meetings, which can be found at http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Deployment_meetings#Meeting_notes If you'd like to have an agenda, then please write one as indicated on the meeting notes link above

Re: OLPC upgrades

2009-02-03 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 1:03 PM, da...@lang.hm wrote: Ok, what tools can I use to satisfy you of this 'opinion' that applications start faster on either KDE or GNOME than on Sugar on the same hardware. by the way, you are the first person I have heard dispute this. Erik has done a few things

Re: speeding up booting

2009-02-03 Thread Mitch Bradley
Martin Langhoff wrote: On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Mitch Bradley w...@laptop.org wrote: I have zero confidence that the approach they are taking will be effective on XO. After watching dsd bump into the busy-wait thing in the cafe-nand driver [1]... I am coming to understand

Re: OLPC upgrades

2009-02-03 Thread david
On Wed, 4 Feb 2009, Martin Langhoff wrote: On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 1:03 PM, da...@lang.hm wrote: Ok, what tools can I use to satisfy you of this 'opinion' that applications start faster on either KDE or GNOME than on Sugar on the same hardware. by the way, you are the first person I have

Re: speeding up booting

2009-02-03 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Mitch Bradley w...@laptop.org wrote: I have zero confidence that the approach they are taking will be effective on XO. After watching dsd bump into the busy-wait thing in the cafe-nand driver [1]... I am coming to understand how different our hw profile is from

Re: speeding up booting

2009-02-03 Thread John Gilmore
How about bundling them up and attaching them to the Improve Startup Speed ticket http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/4349 . That way all the research that nobody does anything about because it diverges too much from the blessed Fedora will all be in one place. One of Fedora 11's features is

Re: speeding up booting

2009-02-03 Thread Mitch Bradley
John Gilmore wrote: How about bundling them up and attaching them to the Improve Startup Speed ticket http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/4349 . That way all the research that nobody does anything about because it diverges too much from the blessed Fedora will all be in one place. One of

Re: OLPC upgrades

2009-02-03 Thread david
On Tue, 3 Feb 2009, Benjamin M. Schwartz wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 da...@lang.hm wrote: the fact that KDE and GNOME (both desktops that are considered pigs on normal machines) make a XO laptop seem snappy by comparison to Sugar (as of December) means that there

Re: OLPC upgrades

2009-02-03 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 da...@lang.hm wrote: the fact that KDE and GNOME (both desktops that are considered pigs on normal machines) make a XO laptop seem snappy by comparison to Sugar (as of December) means that there is a significant problem with Sugar. I'm not happy

Re: OLPC upgrades

2009-02-03 Thread Tiago Marques
On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 8:38 AM, Bobby Powers bobbypow...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/2/2 Tiago Marques tiago...@gmail.com: On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 4:03 AM, Mitch Bradley w...@laptop.org wrote: Guess what? The people at OLPC, who aren't stupid, already considered every point in the message

Re: OLPC upgrades

2009-02-03 Thread david
On Tue, 3 Feb 2009, Tiago Marques wrote: On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 8:38 AM, Bobby Powers bobbypow...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/2/2 Tiago Marques tiago...@gmail.com: On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 4:03 AM, Mitch Bradley w...@laptop.org wrote: The current dual mode touchpad hardware is being discontinued

Life in an insecure world

2009-02-03 Thread John Watlington
Background context: Right now, Quanta only ships laptops in one of two states: - security enabled - security enabled, and pre-activated Starting in a few weeks, the factory will only ship laptops in one of two configurations: - security enabled - security disabled The goal is to only ship

Re: Life in an insecure world

2009-02-03 Thread James Cameron
I understand the issue and I agree with your decision. Protection against rm -rf / is not part of the security design. -- James Cameronmailto:qu...@us.netrek.org http://quozl.netrek.org/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org

Re: OLPC upgrades

2009-02-03 Thread Bobby Powers
On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 7:55 PM, da...@lang.hm wrote: On Wed, 4 Feb 2009, Martin Langhoff wrote: On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 1:03 PM, da...@lang.hm wrote: Ok, what tools can I use to satisfy you of this 'opinion' that applications start faster on either KDE or GNOME than on Sugar on the same

Which wikipage lists activities for 8.2.1 ('staging') ?

2009-02-03 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
I'm confused as to which Activities are mated to 8.2.1. The subject came up before, when it was pointed out that wikipage Activities/G1G1 lists some newer activity versions than wikipage Activities/G1G1/8.2. Does that mean that wikipage Activities/G1G1 officially applies to the latest 8.2