Re: XO BW mode (was Re: Guidance sought on collaboration techniques)

2009-02-14 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 13.02.2009, at 19:27, Gary C Martin wrote: Note the backlight goes through the colour refractive screen magic, even in BW mode, so it's not as sharp as with the backlight 100% off That explanation is horrendously wrong. Please do not perpetuate the rumor of modes in the display hardware.

Re: XO BW mode (was Re: Guidance sought on collaboration techniques)

2009-02-14 Thread Gary C Martin
On 14 Feb 2009, at 10:16, Bert Freudenberg wrote: On 13.02.2009, at 19:27, Gary C Martin wrote: Note the backlight goes through the colour refractive screen magic, even in BW mode, so it's not as sharp as with the backlight 100% off That explanation is horrendously wrong. Please do not

Re: XO BW mode (was Re: Guidance sought on collaboration techniques)

2009-02-14 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 14.02.2009, at 17:24, Gary C Martin wrote: On 14 Feb 2009, at 10:16, Bert Freudenberg wrote: On 13.02.2009, at 19:27, Gary C Martin wrote: Note the backlight goes through the colour refractive screen magic, even in BW mode, so it's not as sharp as with the backlight 100% off That

Re: DebXO 0.5 release

2009-02-14 Thread Andres Salomon
On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 18:06:03 -0500 Andres Salomon dilin...@queued.net wrote: Hi, I've just built and tagged DebXO 0.5. I had to put this out sooner than I'd anticipated due to an OFW upgrade that broke things. It doesn't have some of the features I'd wanted to have in 0.5, so they'll

Re: power consumption after shutdown

2009-02-14 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
Chris Ball and Paul Fox responded: I take this to mean that *something* was draining some power for the two days the XO was sitting in its shut down state. The embedded controller was. Something needs to be watching for a power button press in order to know when to turn on. Thank you. I

Re: power consumption after shutdown

2009-02-14 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 8:38 PM, Chris Ball c...@laptop.org wrote: Hi, by default the wireless card remains alive to participate in a potential mesh network, disabling wireless should give you a lot more time. You're thinking of sleep mode, not the full shutdown that Mikus is

Re: power consumption after shutdown

2009-02-14 Thread pgf
edward wrote: On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 8:38 PM, Chris Ball c...@laptop.org wrote: Hi, by default the wireless card remains alive to participate in a potential mesh network, disabling wireless should give you a lot more time. You're thinking of sleep mode, not the

Re: power consumption after shutdown

2009-02-14 Thread Richard A. Smith
da...@lang.hm wrote: The embedded controller was. Something needs to be watching for a power button press in order to know when to turn on. by default the wireless card remains alive to participate in a potential mesh network, disabling wireless should give you a lot more time. In power

Re: power consumption after shutdown

2009-02-14 Thread Richard A. Smith
Richard A. Smith wrote: going into STOP mode the EC is only going into IDEL mode. In IDEL the instruction fetch is turned off but the clocks and timers still run. 4mA is listed as the nominal draw in that mode. /s/IDEL/IDLE -- Richard Smith rich...@laptop.org One Laptop Per Child

Re: power consumption after shutdown

2009-02-14 Thread imm
On 14 Feb 2009, at 19:24, Richard A. Smith wrote: While running on eternal power the EC does not attempt to enter a low power mode. s/eternal/external/ ? Although, to be honest, I'd love to believe you were right... ___ Devel mailing list

Re: XO BW mode (was Re: Guidance sought on collaboration techniques)

2009-02-14 Thread david
On Sat, 14 Feb 2009, Gary C Martin wrote: On 14 Feb 2009, at 10:16, Bert Freudenberg wrote: The blur you see in color mode is the DCON performing anti-aliasing by adding color components from the four neighboring pixels into each pixel (e.g., for a red pixel it takes the red components of

New joyride build 2654

2009-02-14 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build2654 Changes in build 2654 from build: 2652 Size delta: 0.00M -pkgconfig 1:0.23-3.fc10 +pkgconfig 1:0.23-6.fc10 -- This mail was automatically generated See http://dev.laptop.org/~rwh/announcer/joyride-pkgs.html for aggregate logs

Re: power consumption after shutdown

2009-02-14 Thread Richard A. Smith
Richard A. Smith wrote: into STOP mode but its power draw suggests otherwise. I'll have to study it deeper. After deeper study I have verified that the EC is going into stop mode. I have also found the (biggest) source of the additional power draw I measured. The tinder box XO has the

Re: power consumption after shutdown

2009-02-14 Thread quozl
On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 01:56:22PM -0500, Mikus Grinbergs wrote: I have found the XO-1 batteries (mfg by BYD Company Ltd) to be very stingy with energy loss. When I put one back in after a month out of the case, the XO software told me it was still 94% charged. The displayed state of charge

Re: power consumption after shutdown

2009-02-14 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
This gets more and more bizarre !! James wrote: The displayed state of charge is stored in the chip in the battery, and is maintained by the EC. The battery does not change it's own state of charge value. and (If one discharges an XO battery outside the XO using a home lighting

Re: [Sugar-devel] 'Resume activity' is confusing for user

2009-02-14 Thread Gary C Martin
Mikus, On 15 Feb 2009, at 00:24, Mikus Grinbergs wrote: My observation from running Joyride 2650 on an XO-1: With 'Resume by default' checked in the Favorite view dropdown in Home View, those activity_icons for which a Journal entry now exists are colored. I __naively__ thought that if I

Re: power consumption after shutdown

2009-02-14 Thread quozl
On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 08:26:13PM -0500, Mikus Grinbergs wrote: This gets more and more bizarre !! No, it's just physics and chemistry, constrained by engineering. Please, if you think it is bizarre, explain why you think so, and I'll happily explain the physics that I know. What I am now

Re: power consumption after shutdown

2009-02-14 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
My apologies for not being clear. I'll try again: I want to feel that the battery that I just put into the XO I'm walking out the door with is as charged up as it normally can be. 1) If that battery came from an XO that was plugged into the AC 24/7 for the past week -- I *think* it is

Re: [Server-devel] XS 0.5.1 RC - Last round of testing...

2009-02-14 Thread Jerry Vonau
On Sat, 2009-02-14 at 15:28 +1300, Martin Langhoff wrote: On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Jerry Vonau jvo...@shaw.ca wrote: I'm seeing the same errors in the install log as Sameer while installing on an XO. openssl does not get installed, because uname returns as an i586 while there is no

Re: [Server-devel] xs-activation-server over IPv6

2009-02-14 Thread Daniel Drake
2009/2/14 Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com: Later. 0.5.2 or 0.6. If you need it in a formal release, let me know and I'll see about building a 0.5.2 That would be very useful if you could do that within the next week... also if you could include my xs-activity-server patches? We will

Re: [Server-devel] xs-activation-server over IPv6

2009-02-14 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 6:21 AM, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote: 2009/2/14 Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com: Later. 0.5.2 or 0.6. If you need it in a formal release, let me know and I'll see about building a 0.5.2 That would be very useful if you could do that within the next

[Server-devel] Revisor (or Anaconda?) spin - unable to install on i586

2009-02-14 Thread Martin Langhoff
Hi everyone, the olpc XS spin is hitting a problem installing on i586s (and that includes our own XO). The problem seems to be well known -- anaconda composes based on the arch of the build host rather than on the arch requested, as described in:

[Server-devel] Revisor (or Anaconda?) spin - unable to install on i586

2009-02-14 Thread Martin Langhoff
[ resend - now to the appropriate Fedora list - apologies ] Hi everyone, the olpc XS spin is hitting a problem installing on i586s (and that includes our own XO). The problem seems to be well known -- anaconda composes based on the arch of the build host rather than on the arch requested, as