new mailing list for other distros?

2009-02-18 Thread Carlos Nazareno
I will have my two XO's there, I will try to have them running different flavors of DebXO (from USB sticks if nothing else, but quite possibly from the NAND), since the future direction is to have them run relativly standard distros, having examples of the different distros would be nice.

Re: new mailing list for other distros?

2009-02-18 Thread quozl
On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 04:14:05PM +0800, Carlos Nazareno wrote: I will have my two XO's there, I will try to have them running different flavors of DebXO (from USB sticks if nothing else, but quite possibly from the NAND), since the future direction is to have them run relativly standard

Fwd: OLPC Mumbai volunteers wake up

2009-02-18 Thread sapan kadakia
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2009-02-18 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 18.02.2009, at 06:31, Rivka Levy wrote: I would be thrilled to edit and develop educational tools - outside the bos - in exchange for an XO. S. Rivka Levy-Barbero, MSW another, BETTER E address is: srivkal...@comcast.net http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Contributors_program - Bert -

Re: 8.2.1 candidate-800 giving incorrect keyboard language maps?

2009-02-18 Thread Daniel Drake
2009/2/17 Gary C Martin g...@garycmartin.com: Just wanted to post incase anyone can easily confirm/deny; but after clean flashing a Spanish language XO to 8.2.1 candidate-800, the language correctly defaults to Spanish, but the keyboard is responding only as a US-English keyboard.

Re: new mailing list for other distros?

2009-02-18 Thread david
On Wed, 18 Feb 2009, qu...@laptop.org wrote: On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 04:14:05PM +0800, Carlos Nazareno wrote: I will have my two XO's there, I will try to have them running different flavors of DebXO (from USB sticks if nothing else, but quite possibly from the NAND), since the future

Re: price point + sales to individuals

2009-02-18 Thread Carlos Nazareno
In summary, you'd like to see a lower price. No, in summary, I'm thinking maybe this can be a two-birds with one stone approach to: a) Save OLPC financially by selling XO units with a little profit to all takers as Yama said. Why not tie up with and physically stock some units at

Re: new mailing list for other distros?

2009-02-18 Thread pgf
da...@lang.hm wrote: On Wed, 18 Feb 2009, qu...@laptop.org wrote: On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 04:14:05PM +0800, Carlos Nazareno wrote: I will have my two XO's there, I will try to have them running different flavors of DebXO (from USB sticks if nothing else, but quite possibly from

Re: new mailing list for other distros?

2009-02-18 Thread Peter Robinson
I disagree. There is no clutter now, and concentrating all the XO hardware related discussions here is very valuable. Splitting by distribution would halt collaboration. I'd go further and say that things are already too fragmented. the fact that the DebXO maintainer didn't know that much

Re: new mailing list for other distros?

2009-02-18 Thread Tiago Marques
On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 10:23 AM, qu...@laptop.org wrote: On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 04:14:05PM +0800, Carlos Nazareno wrote: I will have my two XO's there, I will try to have them running different flavors of DebXO (from USB sticks if nothing else, but quite possibly from the NAND), since

Re: Application crashing with Bad Window error only on OLPC 767 build

2009-02-18 Thread shivaprasad javali
Finally some more information about what is happening. The application that I am running previously didn't use any UI packages and worked directly with windows through X calls. I had to add a xulrunner based browser to it which accepted only a gtk window and couldn't work with an X window

Re: new mailing list for other distros?

2009-02-18 Thread david
On Wed, 18 Feb 2009, Peter Robinson wrote: I disagree. There is no clutter now, and concentrating all the XO hardware related discussions here is very valuable. Splitting by distribution would halt collaboration. I'd go further and say that things are already too fragmented. the fact that

Re: [Sugar-devel] XOIRC migrated to Sugar Labs (as IRC Activity)

2009-02-18 Thread Mel Chua
Rockin'. I'll port over the bugs. Simon Schampijer wrote: Mel Chua wrote: The IRC activity (XoIRC) has been moved to the Sugar Labs infrastructure. If Eduardo is ok with it, I'll be maintaining it here unless someone else would like to pick it up. Awesome, thanks Mel.

Re: price point + sales to individuals

2009-02-18 Thread John Watlington
On Feb 18, 2009, at 8:24 AM, Carlos Nazareno wrote: In summary, you'd like to see a lower price. No, in summary, I'm thinking maybe this can be a two-birds with one stone approach to: a) Save OLPC financially by selling XO units with a little profit to all takers as Yama said. Why not tie

Re: Unshare an Activity

2009-02-18 Thread Jorge Saldivar
Thanks Eben!, Very helpful all of your comments. Thanks all for your help, now I understant too much about mesh, share, join, etc. Anything would be bothering you again. Regards, -- Jorge Saldivar ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org

Re: price point + sales to individuals

2009-02-18 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 18.02.2009, at 18:01, John Watlington wrote: We already have a developer program where we give away laptops to interested people. This is for people already committed, already part of the community. It's a great program, I got my XOs from it. But it does not get new people into the

Re: price point + sales to individuals

2009-02-18 Thread pgf
bert wrote: On 18.02.2009, at 18:01, John Watlington wrote: We already have a developer program where we give away laptops to interested people. This is for people already committed, already part of the community. It's a great program, I got my XOs from it. it's also only

Re: 8.2.1 candidate-800 giving incorrect keyboard language maps?

2009-02-18 Thread Gary C Martin
On 18 Feb 2009, at 12:10, Daniel Drake wrote: 2009/2/17 Gary C Martin g...@garycmartin.com: Just wanted to post incase anyone can easily confirm/deny; but after clean flashing a Spanish language XO to 8.2.1 candidate-800, the language correctly defaults to Spanish, but the keyboard is

Re: [Testing] 8.2.1 candidate-800 giving incorrect keyboard language maps?

2009-02-18 Thread Sayamindu Dasgupta
On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 11:28 PM, Gary C Martin g...@garycmartin.com wrote: On 18 Feb 2009, at 12:10, Daniel Drake wrote: 2009/2/17 Gary C Martin g...@garycmartin.com: Just wanted to post incase anyone can easily confirm/deny; but after clean flashing a Spanish language XO to 8.2.1

Re: [Server-devel] mkusbinstall enhancements

2009-02-18 Thread Jerry Vonau
On Tue, 2009-02-17 at 18:41 -0600, Jerry wrote: Martin: Can you apply and test: xo.patch from: http://members.shaw.ca/jvonau/pub/0216 I need to append method=hd:LABEL=XSRepo:/iso to the same line, Can you change this line in the patch from: sed -i -e 's/cdrom:/hd:LABEL=XSRepo:/g'

Re: [Server-devel] mkusbinstall enhancements

2009-02-18 Thread Jerry Vonau
On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 11:50 -0600, Jerry Vonau wrote: On Tue, 2009-02-17 at 18:41 -0600, Jerry wrote: Martin: Can you apply and test: xo.patch from: http://members.shaw.ca/jvonau/pub/0216 I need to append method=hd:LABEL=XSRepo:/iso to the same line, Can you change this line in

Re: price point + sales to individuals

2009-02-18 Thread Holt
CORRECTION: The Contributors Program is in fact operational, and will be undergoing pretty radical enhancement going forward, including local XO Projects Pools / Laptop Lending Libraries wherever we find responsible stewards worldwide (email if you can help!)

Re: price point + sales to individuals

2009-02-18 Thread david
On Wed, 18 Feb 2009, Holt wrote: CORRECTION: The Contributors Program is in fact operational, and will be undergoing pretty radical enhancement going forward, including local XO Projects Pools / Laptop Lending Libraries wherever we find responsible stewards worldwide (email if you can help!)

Re: [Server-devel] mkusbinstall enhancements

2009-02-18 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 1:41 PM, Jerry je...@vonau.ca wrote: Can you apply and test: xo.patch from: http://members.shaw.ca/jvonau/pub/0216 Now sets the filesystem label to be XSRepo, used with the sed's line to set the ks= directive to be that of the usbdrive's label. That should fix the

Re: new mailing list for other distros?

2009-02-18 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 1:42 AM, da...@lang.hm wrote: I'd go further and say that things are already too fragmented. +1. m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first

New joyride build 2656

2009-02-18 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build2656 Changes in build 2656 from build: 2655 Size delta: 0.13M -libattr 2.4.43-1.fc10 +libattr 2.4.43-2.fc10 -sqlite 3.5.9-3.fc10 +sqlite 3.5.9-4.fc10 -- This mail was automatically generated See

Re: Guidance sought on collaboration techniques

2009-02-18 Thread Wade Brainerd
Hey James, I always have set my XOs using the Control Panel to one of the servers listed here: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Community_Jabber_Servers Most often it's the schoolserver.media.mit.edu server which is designated as for developers. I have never had good luck getting XOs on the network

Re: HTML-based/Browser apps (was Re: anti-cheating)

2009-02-18 Thread Wade Brainerd
Great to hear Finance has been translated and will be offered! Please let me know if there are any features that would make it more useful for you guys. Note that it's not in any way Tax related, it's simply for planning and recording personal finances - income and expenses over time. Cheers,

Re: Price point plus sales to individuals

2009-02-18 Thread Mitch Bradley
Okay, so those of you who are keen on there being a way for individuals to buy XOs at $2xx dollars should place a volume order, set up a web site, and start raking in the dough. Obviously you guys know something about making a few bucks per machine that has eluded the OLPC organization, so go

Re: Price point plus sales to individuals

2009-02-18 Thread quozl
On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 04:37:34PM -1000, Mitch Bradley wrote: Okay, so those of you who are keen on there being a way for individuals to buy XOs at $2xx dollars should place a volume order, set up a web site, and start raking in the dough. +1 (I'm not volunteering to do that, but the point

Re: Price point plus sales to individuals

2009-02-18 Thread John Watlington
On Feb 18, 2009, at 9:37 PM, Mitch Bradley wrote: Okay, so those of you who are keen on there being a way for individuals to buy XOs at $2xx dollars should place a volume order, set up a web site, and start raking in the dough. +1 I don't see how a non-profit can do this, as requires

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] webactivity: seed the XS cookie at startup

2009-02-18 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 12:17 PM, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 11:03 AM, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de wrote: I take it you're happy to fix things up so that the 2 branches are reasonably in sync? Thanks! a git fetch from 'mainline.git'

Re: Guidance sought on collaboration techniques

2009-02-18 Thread Gary C Martin
On 19 Feb 2009, at 02:28, Wade Brainerd wrote: Hey James, I always have set my XOs using the Control Panel to one of the servers listed here: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Community_Jabber_Servers Most often it's the schoolserver.media.mit.edu server which is designated as for

RFC: Supporting olpc-ish Deployments - Draft 1

2009-02-18 Thread Michael Stone
Folks, Pia Waugh (greebo) and I have spent a fair bit of time in the last month talking and thinking about what we can do in the next few months to best support present and future olpc-ish deployments (typically with XOs, typically running Sugar) and we'd like to share some of our thoughts with

Wellington OLPC/Sugar volunteers group - meeting this Saturday 10.30am, Southern Cross

2009-02-18 Thread Tabitha Roder
Hello OLPC/Sugar testing is on again this Saturday. Martin is still in NZ so come along to ask him all about XS and Moodle. Focus for this weekend is updating to 8.2.1 and activity testing. Usual time and place: 1030am at the Cross, 35 Abel Smith St FYI - Cuba St Carnival is on that afternoon,

Re: Price point plus sales to individuals

2009-02-18 Thread Carlos Nazareno
Okay, so those of you who are keen on there being a way for individuals to buy XOs at $2xx dollars should place a volume order, set up a web site, and start raking in the dough. Obviously you guys know something about making a few bucks per machine that has eluded the OLPC organization, so

Re: Price point plus sales to individuals

2009-02-18 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 4:24 PM, John Watlington w...@laptop.org wrote: +1 I don't see how a non-profit can do this, as requires financing at risk, and staffing for uncertain demand.Let me know when you have the capital. The factory requires cash or irrevocable letter of credit for the

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] webactivity: seed the XS cookie at startup

2009-02-18 Thread Simon Schampijer
Martin Langhoff wrote: On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 11:03 AM, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de wrote: Well, your call - using the schoolserver url then? The fqdn from backup server or jabber server. Either will do until we fix the registration stuff. Please state exactly which one you want

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] webactivity: seed the XS cookie at startup

2009-02-18 Thread Simon Schampijer
Martin Langhoff wrote: On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 12:17 PM, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 11:03 AM, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de wrote: I take it you're happy to fix things up so that the 2 branches are reasonably in sync? Thanks! a git

Re: Price point plus sales to individuals

2009-02-18 Thread Carlos Nazareno
Okay, so those of you who are keen on there being a way for individuals to buy XOs at $2xx dollars should place a volume order, set up a web site, and start raking in the dough. Obviously you guys know something about making a few bucks per machine that has eluded the OLPC organization, so

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] webactivity: seed the XS cookie at startup

2009-02-18 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 7:20 PM, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de wrote: Martin Langhoff wrote: On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 11:03 AM, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de wrote: Well, your call - using the schoolserver url then? The fqdn from backup server or jabber server. Either will do

Re: Opportunity for speedup

2009-02-18 Thread Bobby Powers
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 2:01 AM, Mitch Bradley w...@laptop.org wrote: I just measured the time taken by the boot animation by the simple technique of renaming /usr/bin/rhgb-client so the initscripts can't find it. how did you measure exactly? stopwatch? I'd like to recreate the tests. It

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] webactivity: seed the XS cookie at startup

2009-02-18 Thread Hal Murray
The fqdn from backup server or jabber server. Either will do until we fix the registration stuff. Please state exactly which one you want - I want this to be your call. How about adding a layer of indirection and letting DNS do the binding? -- I'm not a DNS wizard. DNS has C

[Server-devel] automatic olpc-update from XS

2009-02-18 Thread Daniel Drake
Hi, Has anyone looked into making the XS serve automatic OS updates to XO over the network? I know about http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XS-rsync but it does not really explain how the XOs perform the update... Am I right in guessing that currently some voodoo must be run on the XO to get olpc-update

[Server-devel] Mass olpc-update via XS?

2009-02-18 Thread Michael Stone
Dear XS folks, Daniel Drake, currently in Paraguay, wants to try implementing the procedure described in http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Mstone/Commentaries/Mass_olpc-update via XSen (using DNS to redirect the XOs' theft-deterrence protocol requests to the local XS.) However, after briefly

Re: [Server-devel] IRC channel/using ejabberdctl

2009-02-18 Thread Yifan
Hi Martin, I went into the log files and realized that the domain had a schoolserver tacked in front of my domain name, which solved the previous problem; apparently I was trying to create an account for a server that didn't really exist. The specific domain name I was trying to use was

Re: [Server-devel] IRC channel/using ejabberdctl

2009-02-18 Thread Gerald Ardito
I am having a similar problem. There seems to be a discrepancy between the host/domain names between the server and ejabberd. I would really appreciate clarification of the conventions for this. Thanks. Gerald 2009/2/18 Yifan yifan@students.olin.edu Hi Martin, I went into the log files

Re: [Server-devel] IRC channel/using ejabberdctl

2009-02-18 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 1:31 PM, Yifan yifan@students.olin.edu wrote: I went into the log files and realized that the domain had a schoolserver tacked in front of my domain name, which solved the previous problem; Good problem solving! :-) And you are right, you have to add schoolserver.

Re: [Server-devel] mkusbinstall enhancements

2009-02-18 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 6:50 AM, Jerry Vonau jvo...@shaw.ca wrote: I need to append method=hd:LABEL=XSRepo:/iso to the same line, Can you change this line in the patch from: sed -i -e 's/cdrom:/hd:LABEL=XSRepo:/g' $USBMNT/$SYSLINUXPATH/isolinux.cfg I folded the second part of your patch

Re: [Server-devel] mkusbinstall enhancements

2009-02-18 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 2:36 PM, Jerry je...@vonau.ca wrote: User impression doesn't count? ;-) Kind of throws fully automated installs out the window. To support installs to CF or from the network, anaconda needs to be patched for F9, is installing to a XO on hold? or are you looking to move

Re: [Server-devel] mkusbinstall enhancements

2009-02-18 Thread Jerry Vonau
On Thu, 2009-02-19 at 15:06 +1300, Martin Langhoff wrote: On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 2:36 PM, Jerry je...@vonau.ca wrote: User impression doesn't count? ;-) Kind of throws fully automated installs out the window. To support installs to CF or from the network, anaconda needs to be patched for

Re: [Server-devel] Mass olpc-update via XS?

2009-02-18 Thread Chris Ball
Hi Martin, Interesting. I didn't know cjb had forked my code. Should I fold his code and ship it with the XS? Chris, can you tell me more about the patches? Sorry about that, I should have written this up. The change here is the addition of an xs-upserv script, and it's probably not

Re: [Server-devel] Mass olpc-update via XS?

2009-02-18 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 3:37 PM, Chris Ball c...@laptop.org wrote: Sorry about that, I should have written this up. Thanks for telling more :-) The change here is the addition of an xs-upserv script, and it's probably not useful for the XS -- you already have an xs-rsync setup that does the