Re: Bootloader question
Hi, I'm still preparing my custom images for the Haïti project, and I am quite disturbed by the JFFS2 boottime. From what I've read on the wiki, JFFS2 is here only because OFW doesn't know how to use UBIFS. I think its actually there because ubifs wasn't around when OLPC needed to make a decision on filesystems. UBIFS hasn't been around that long. This brings a question - is it possible to replace OFW with something that could use UBIFS? Say coreboot , or even a bios with grub, anything will do! No idea, but you can use a small /boot partition with jffs2 (or ext2) which is enough to boot the kernel and then have a ubifs root file system. If there's no security, if there's little functionality, not field upgrades etc, it will just be fine as long as it can boot any quicker. I just can't keep the boot delays currently experienced with jffs2 Well there's details of what experimentation was done with ubifs on the wiki here http://wiki.laptop.org/go/UBIFS_on_XO http://wiki.laptop.org/go/UBIFS_initial_experiments Peter ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Videos of XO 1.5 in Taipei
Or maybe olpc.tv can send its videos to our contact at Dailymotion? They can encode it in ogg and make them available for kids at: http://olpc.dailymotion.com Don't hesitate. rihowa...@gmail.com rihowa...@gmail.com writes: It would be nice if olpc.tv used ogg vorbis. Is there any way to get the videos of XO 1.5 in Taipei, etc. posted in a linux friendly format? XO users are excluded from viewing material about the XO. Where the FOSS are you!! In other words FOSS you..tube, use Ogg Vorbis!! -- Bastien ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Bootloader question
On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 9:46 AM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: I think its actually there because ubifs wasn't around when OLPC needed to make a decision on filesystems. UBIFS hasn't been around that long. Exactly. We're very keen on hearing of people experimenting with it, reporting on performance and stability. It will be interesting to hear whether it's ready for production use. JFFS2, for all its faults, has been fairly resilient against powerloss-related corruption. This brings a question - is it possible to replace OFW with something that could use UBIFS? Say coreboot , or even a bios with grub, anything will do! That'd probably be a huge endeavour. Getting a BIOS to work on a particular piece of hardware is significant work... No idea, but you can use a small /boot partition with jffs2 (or ext2) which is enough to boot the kernel and then have a ubifs root file system. +1 on Peter's recommendation :-) m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
interoperability between different versions of sugar
Hi All, I'm wondering what, if any, interoperability there is between 0.82 and 0.84 in terms of activities like chat and write. I have a XO running the latest 8.2.1/0.82 and a eeePC running 0.84 connected on the same AP but they can't seem to see each other (but 2 XOs can). Peter ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Bootloader question
I think its actually there because ubifs wasn't around when OLPC needed to make a decision on filesystems. UBIFS hasn't been around that long. Exactly. We're very keen on hearing of people experimenting with it, reporting on performance and stability. It will be interesting to hear whether it's ready for production use. JFFS2, for all its faults, has been fairly resilient against powerloss-related corruption. I'd also be interested to know what is required to add support for new filesystems to OFW. ext4 now has the option to run without a journal which gives it the advantage that ext2 had over ext3 with a lot of the other improvements that come with ext4. I wonder what would be required to add support for it and the likes of ubifs? Peter ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: interoperability between different versions of sugar
On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 15:35, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, I'm wondering what, if any, interoperability there is between 0.82 and 0.84 in terms of activities like chat and write. I have a XO running the latest 8.2.1/0.82 and a eeePC running 0.84 connected on the same AP but they can't seem to see each other (but 2 XOs can). Should be pretty good. If you boot a 0.84 Soas on the XO, can it see the eeepc? Regards, Tomeu Peter ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: interoperability between different versions of sugar
I'm wondering what, if any, interoperability there is between 0.82 and 0.84 in terms of activities like chat and write. I have a XO running the latest 8.2.1/0.82 and a eeePC running 0.84 connected on the same AP but they can't seem to see each other (but 2 XOs can). Should be pretty good. If you boot a 0.84 Soas on the XO, can it see the eeepc? I can now see the eeePC (running F11/0.84) from the XOs running 8.2.1/0.82 but it seems not visa-versa although I'm not convinced I can see everything in the neighbourhood view as it took me a while to find the AP to connect in the first place. Peter ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Bootloader question
On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 3:33 PM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: I'd also be interested to know what is required to add support for new filesystems to OFW. ext4 now has the option to run without a journal which gives it the advantage that ext2 had over ext3 with a lot of the other improvements that come with ext4. I wonder what would be required to add support for it and the likes of ubifs? Well, Mitch might chime in, or there's the ofw mailing list :-). I'm sure OFW will get some ext2/3/4 support for the XO-1.5 hardware, which will have an FTL. For XO-1.0 users -- there's over a million of them -- FTLs are not an option, so it'll be interesting to see if ubifs works better. m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: interoperability between different versions of sugar
I'm wondering what, if any, interoperability there is between 0.82 and 0.84 in terms of activities like chat and write. I have a XO running the latest 8.2.1/0.82 and a eeePC running 0.84 connected on the same AP but they can't seem to see each other (but 2 XOs can). Should be pretty good. If you boot a 0.84 Soas on the XO, can it see the eeepc? I can now see the eeePC (running F11/0.84) from the XOs running 8.2.1/0.82 but it seems not visa-versa although I'm not convinced I can see everything in the neighbourhood view as it took me a while to find the AP to connect in the first place. Actually having ignored it for 5 mins or so it seems that I was being impatient and they all eventually showed up and with a little more patience I now have a 3 way chat :) Thanks for your help! Peter ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
OLPC Volunteer Infrastructure Group Meeting: [Today]
The Volunteer Infrastructure Group (/gang) Meeting is today (June 2th) at 4pm (EST) The Volunteer Infrastructure Group is a team of Volunteer Sysadmins who help maintain services and systems around OLPC and the OLPC/SugarLabs community. The weekly VIG meeting is an excellent chance to get involved, or to be aware of upcoming projects. http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC:Volunteer_Infrastructure_Group http://vig.laptop.org/wiki/index.php/User:Dogi http://idea.laptop.org/ideatorrent/ideatorrent/vig/ http://embed.mibbit.com/?server=irc.oftc.netchannel=%23olpc-adminsettings=12a698505c860f99a6ad1051c57975f9noServerTab=falsenoServerNotices=truenoServerMotd=truenick=Guest Agenda: * backup: new VM for streaming to a robot tape solution * pinguin: new www * meeting: new structure and meeting.sugarlabs.org * vig and wiki (testwiki): migration plan * idea: help promote this idea function * rt: migration plan * maps: there new datas on deployments * bigsister: new VM on w91 Meeting Details: Date: June 2th, 2009 Time: 16:00 EST Location: irc.oftc.net #olpc-admin or click on - http://embed.mibbit.com/?server=irc.oftc.netchannel=%23olpc-adminsettings=12a698505c860f99a6ad1051c57975f9noServerTab=falsenoServerNotices=truenoServerMotd=truenick=Guest ciao dogi ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Videos of XO 1.5 in Taipei
On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 5:08 AM, Bastien bastiengue...@googlemail.com wrote: Or maybe olpc.tv can send its videos to our contact at Dailymotion? They can encode it in ogg and make them available for kids at: http://olpc.dailymotion.com Don't hesitate. +1 for sure! Sameer ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Videos of XO 1.5 in Taipei
Hi all, I have some questions to whom might be able to answer them. It would be cool to have that 2nd SD card slot(?) at the top available in the final design, are you considering that option? The VX855 seems able to handle it but the C7-M might need a heatspreader. In those conditions how hot/cool are the chips running while in load? At first sight, it would seem the fliped chip designs would require some kind of metalic heatspreader. Also, will that VGA pinout be relatively accessible in the final design? Or is it too much of a cost/hassle to have it in the final design, even if the connectors not soldered? Best regards, Tiago Marques On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 1:06 AM, Charbax char...@charbax.com wrote: Posted to http://olpc.tv Filming Pixel Qi and more in just a bit.. -- Charbax, Nicolas Charbonnier ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Videos of XO 1.5 in Taipei
On Tue, 2 Jun 2009, Tiago Marques wrote: Hi all, I have some questions to whom might be able to answer them. It would be cool to have that 2nd SD card slot(?) at the top available in the final design, are you considering that option? I doubt it for two reasons 1. they are trying to avoid making any changes to the plastic 2. the card slot on the top would be exposed to the elements, even when the laptop is closed up. something that they were trying to avoid. David Lang The VX855 seems able to handle it but the C7-M might need a heatspreader. In those conditions how hot/cool are the chips running while in load? At first sight, it would seem the fliped chip designs would require some kind of metalic heatspreader. Also, will that VGA pinout be relatively accessible in the final design? Or is it too much of a cost/hassle to have it in the final design, even if the connectors not soldered? Best regards, Tiago Marques On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 1:06 AM, Charbax char...@charbax.com wrote: Posted to http://olpc.tv Filming Pixel Qi and more in just a bit.. -- Charbax, Nicolas Charbonnier ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Bootloader question
If you seriously are thinking of replacing OFW in your local OLPC trials in order to shave five or ten seconds off the boot time, then you have tons of talent but not much judgment -- and WAY too much time on your hands. Don't waste your time on trivia; put your talent into fixing some of the real major OLPC issues. (Like the lack of a high quality book reader on the laptop; or the few bugs preventing automatic suspend/resume support that would double the battery life; or the tiny kernel regression that makes it hang dead when it runs out of memory rather than killing a process; or the huge CPU load caused by thrashing executable pages in from a compressed flash filesystem.) Put your root filesystem on an SD card (and fix the bugs relating to SD cards not properly remounting after suspend) if you want to avoid JFFS2. John Gilmore ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Bootloader question
From what I've read on the wiki, JFFS2 is here only because OFW doesn't know how to use UBIFS. Don't believe everything you read on a wiki. As Peter Robinson says, JFFS is used because it was the only viable alternative at the time we were doing the initial development. UBIFS did not become viable from a technical standpoint until the middle of last year, and OLPC's software team hasn't had the resources to fully test UBIFS and do the very substantial amount of work necessary to change over to it. OFW would not have to change, because ... No idea, but you can use a small /boot partition with jffs2 (or ext2) which is enough to boot the kernel and then have a ubifs root file system. OFW has included support for partitioned NAND since the first production shipments, dating back to January 2008. The idea is to have a small boot partition that can be in any format that OFW supports - JFFS2, ext2, FAT, or even a .zip archive. JFFS2 is just fine on a small partition; the scan time for a few MB is negligeable. I have been lobbying for such a structure for about 2 years now, but never managed to get enough traction among the OS people to actually implement it in the XO software distribution. The OFW support for this is known to work, as debxo uses it. I'd also be interested to know what is required to add support for new filesystems to OFW. ext4 now has the option to run without a journal which gives it the advantage that ext2 had over ext3 with a lot of the other improvements that come with ext4. I wonder what would be required to add support for it and the likes of ubifs? I'm thinking about ext4, but I must confess that my experience with ext2 has been pretty frustrating. The ext2/3 on-disk format has sprouted many new features over time. Supporting people who plug in disks that are formatted with the latest fancy feature, then complain that an old firmware release fails to work with it, is difficult. I am more inclined to insist that the boot partition must be formatted with a stable format - stable in the sense that the spec rarely changes. ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Videos of XO 1.5 in Taipei
I've been emailing back and forth with Charbax, he's limited for bandwidth while still filming in Taipei, but he will be uploading the HD videos to Dailymotion tomorrow (Taipei time). But I will be asking Sebastian about getting them on olpc.dailymotion.com and/or open.dailymotion.com as ogg videos. Once they are up as ogg, Charbax will post links to the ogg version in the descriptions on the current flash copies. --Sethww On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 8:08 AM, Bastien bastiengue...@googlemail.comwrote: Or maybe olpc.tv can send its videos to our contact at Dailymotion? They can encode it in ogg and make them available for kids at: http://olpc.dailymotion.com Don't hesitate. rihowa...@gmail.com rihowa...@gmail.com writes: It would be nice if olpc.tv used ogg vorbis. Is there any way to get the videos of XO 1.5 in Taipei, etc. posted in a linux friendly format? XO users are excluded from viewing material about the XO. Where the FOSS are you!! In other words FOSS you..tube, use Ogg Vorbis!! -- Bastien ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Bootloader question
Hello, On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 22:12, Mitch Bradley w...@laptop.org wrote: Don't believe everything you read on a wiki. OFW has included support for partitioned NAND since the first production shipments, dating back to January 2008. The idea is to have a small boot partition that can be in any format that OFW supports - JFFS2, ext2, FAT, or even a .zip archive. JFFS2 is just fine on a small partition; the scan time for a few MB is negligeable. I have been lobbying for such a structure for about 2 years now, but never managed to get enough traction among the OS people to actually implement it in the XO software distribution. The OFW support for this is known to work, as debxo uses it. I'm sorry, I didn't know that and I didn't want to imply OFW was not the right tool for the job. I'm just very concerned by the current time it takes for a vanilla olpc to be ready, especially when compared to any netbook running moblin, so I'm exploring various ways to fix the problem (actually rereading every documentation that was send to me explaining various aspect of the OFW before starting the UBIFS tests, but I have limited time and I'd like to spend in on the UI rather than on the boot process) What would you suggest to have the kernel loaded in ram as quickly as possible? (I'd guess execute in place, but I think that's not possible) A fat partition with the zimage ? I'd also like to remove the initrd to try to shave some seconds. I don't need any antitheft protection, I just want to protect the nand against a reflash with a non approved software image, which IMHO is the most interesting feature of OFW. But if that's too complicated/requires the initrd or some weird other stuff, I'll scrap that too. BTW, could you point me to some documentation explaining how to have OFW immediately boot a kernel, without fancy sound/screen/counter? (only prioritising USB or MMC, so that it boots first if a media is inserted or if a struck esc key is detected it gives a command prompt) I'm open to any additional suggestions. (I'll consider the sysvinit optimisations later) Thanks -- Dr. Guylhem Aznar, MD PhD Unité d'Analyse Médico-Économique Service de Santé Publique et d'Économie de la Santé Pôle SPSSR CHU de Fort de France BP 632 97261 Fort De France Cedex Martinique, France Tel : 05 96 55 23 47 Fax : 05 96 75 84 57 ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: #9318 NORM 1.5-ATe: Via framebuffer failure on 1.5
On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 03:01:02AM -0400, Chris Ball wrote: It can't, but I don't mind communicating by e-mail and updating the tracker afterwards if you'd prefer. I'll respond by mail now, but will check out the tracker later. Just arrived back from 4 days offline and have tons of backlog mh, the problem must be related to that particular board, as I've tested the code on both VX800 and VX855 (including a VX800 based laptop with panel). But thanks for letting me know. viafb was working on the device before? What about the external VGA? I've tried with a VX800 laptop with CRT+panel, and the 1.5 board with CRT, and neither worked. The fb init does not complete: [ 24.128168] vmap allocation for size 268439552 failed: use vmalloc=size to increase size. [ 24.136654] ioremap of fbmem failed this means you need to boot with vmalloc=something-bigger. The framebuffer needs to be vmalloc'ed. So if you have a relatively small amount of RAM, and the BIOS is configured for 256MB framebuffer size, the kernel-selected vmalloc area is smaller than what we need for the framebuffer. So you have three options: 1) tell the BIOS to configure the north bridge to only use 64MB or 128MB for the framebuffer 2) put more memory in the system (the kernel will grow the vmalloc area based on total amount of ram available) 3) use 'vmalloc=XXX' to tell the kernel to have a bigger vmalloc area. -- - Harald Welte hwe...@hmw-consulting.de http://www.hmw-consulting.de/ = Consultant for Linux networking, network security, Linux driver development ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Server-devel] Aliasing and backup
On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 10:40 PM, Dave Bauer d...@solutiongrove.com wrote: Ok, I am asked here after I read the XS Blueprint for account aliasing, I am not sure I am thinking about this the right way. I registered SoaS and generated a backup and its available from Moodle just fine. Cool. I later register another SoaS and go to the the old registration, click the alias tab, choose the new registration and click the Alias this account button. That's the correct workflow, but there may be a bug in that it won't show you the link to the 'available snapshots' until you have the first backup form the 'new' SoaS. To confirm... - wait until the 'new' SoaS makes the first backup - revisit that page - should show the empty-ish backup from the new SoaS - click on the link that shows all available snapshots... - should show you the snapshots from your 'old' SoaS hth, n -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Server configuration
*** Neo, Hi. I'm wondering why you need the Static IP. NeoOk the situation is that the internet provider uses WiMax to distribute the signal and then this signal is received by a Radio receiver that has a static ip address. Now in windows /Mac for me to have an internet connection I have to assign a static Ip to the machine with the dns settings as well. This leads me to think that the same information is applied to the ifcfg-eth0-local file as specified on the wiki.Rueben Does the XS have one or two network cards?Neo one network card for the WAN/eth0 and I do have Active antenna plugged in on the usb port and the XO's do connect to the server, but not the internet (DNS)Reuben Will the XS act as a gateway to the Internet?Neo Yes . When I ping www.google.com on the server with the /etc/resolv.conf edited with the remote DNS server ip address ie 10.50.211.5 then I do recieve packets back . I also installed the lynx text browser on the server to browse the internet form the XS and the pages do load. When I do the same on the connected XO I get unknown host but when I insert the google IP address in the address bar of the XO the google page loads. Thanks, Reuben Grape Projects IT wrote: Hi Martin, I have never setup a static address before and therefore have never had this issue before. Below is the step-by-step configuration that I followed and I am having a problem with the DNS as the XO's do not connect to the Internet I downloaded the XS 0.5.2 image and followed the instructions http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XS_Installing_Software. 1.I initially ran the script /etc/sysconfig/olpc-scripts/domainconfig katane.org with katane.org being the hostname 2.I also changed the HOSTNAME=localhost.localdomain to HOSTNAME=schoolserver.katane.org Our internet has a static IP address therefore I copied /usr/share/doc/xs-config-*/ifcfg-eth0-local.example to /etc/sysconfig/olpc-scripts/ifcfg-eth0-local and edited the file with the following: IPADDR=10.50.211.15 IPV6ADDR=no NETMASK=255.255.255.0 NETWORK=10.50.211.0 BROADCAST=10.50.211.255 GATEWAY=10.50.211.5 I also edited the /etc/resolv.conf to resolve the DNS nameserver as follows: search katane.org nameservers 10.50.211.5 3. Restarted the machine 4. I then started the ejabberd service at runlevels 345 5. Restarted the machine shutdown -r now 6. After reboot I pinged www.google.com and I got reply packets which meant that I had connection to the internet 7. now the problem is that when I check the ejabberd status ejabberdctl status I get an error RPC failed on the node ejabb...@schoolserver: nodedown so I went back to my /etc/resolv.conf file and edited the nameserver back to 172.18.0.1 and restarted ejabberd and this executed with no errors. But now the server does not resolve the DNS addresses cause when I ping www.google.com I get the error unknown host www.google.com 8.Another thing is that the XO does not connect to the internet under all scenarios but it connects to the schoolserver as I get to the who are you? page Now what do I need to do to make this work as I am using Active Antenna to connect the XO's to the Server Regards Neo Masilo ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel -- Reuben K. Caron Country Support Engineer One Laptop per Child Mobile: +1-617-230-3893 reu...@laptop.org Deployments Support http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Deployments_Support Neo Masilo Grape Projects (Pty)Ltd PO Box 394 Pimville 1808 South Africa 4238 Khomo Street Pimville 1808, South Africa Tel +27 11 933 4961 Mobile +27 73 656 0707 email: i...@grapeprojects.com web:www.grapeprojects.com ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Server configuration
On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 12:40 PM, Neo Masilo i...@grapeprojects.com wrote: Active antenna plugged in on the usb port and the XO's do connect to the server, but not the internet (DNS)Reuben Will the XS act as a gateway to From what you are saying, you are right in setting up the static address. Your ISP is blocking direct DNS queries -- so for the correct DNS settings you need to instead set the 'forwarders' properly in /etc/named/named-xs.conf m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Aliasing and backup
On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 6:01 AM, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.comwrote: On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 10:40 PM, Dave Bauer d...@solutiongrove.com wrote: Ok, I am asked here after I read the XS Blueprint for account aliasing, I am not sure I am thinking about this the right way. I registered SoaS and generated a backup and its available from Moodle just fine. Cool. I later register another SoaS and go to the the old registration, click the alias tab, choose the new registration and click the Alias this account button. That's the correct workflow, but there may be a bug in that it won't show you the link to the 'available snapshots' until you have the first backup form the 'new' SoaS. To confirm... - wait until the 'new' SoaS makes the first backup - revisit that page - should show the empty-ish backup from the new SoaS - click on the link that shows all available snapshots... - should show you the snapshots from your 'old' SoaS Ok I ran the backup and then tried to login to the schoolserver from Browse. It prefills in my login name as the aliased user instead of the new username and my magic cookie doesn't work anymore. I guess its changing the username when I try to login and it doesn't match. I'll see if I can track this down, I am not sure where it gets the cookie and how aliasing works yet. Dave hth, n -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff -- Dave Bauer d...@solutiongrove.com http://www.solutiongrove.com ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Aliasing and backup
On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 5:25 PM, Dave Bauer d...@solutiongrove.com wrote: Ok I ran the backup and then tried to login to the schoolserver from Browse. It prefills in my login name as the aliased user instead of the new username and my magic cookie doesn't work anymore. Correct. Once your 'new' machine has been aliased to the old account, you restart Browse and you're in your old account. I guess its changing the username when I try to login and it doesn't match. Nothing to do with usernames :-) it's down to the serial number of the machine. I'll see if I can track this down, I am not sure where it gets the cookie and how aliasing works yet. The aliasing is fairly high level. In the 'login to moodle' process, moodle checks whether your SN is aliased to any other account. If so, it logs you into that _other_ acct instead. cheers, m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Aliasing and backup
On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 11:36 AM, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.comwrote: On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 5:25 PM, Dave Bauer d...@solutiongrove.com wrote: Ok I ran the backup and then tried to login to the schoolserver from Browse. It prefills in my login name as the aliased user instead of the new username and my magic cookie doesn't work anymore. Correct. Once your 'new' machine has been aliased to the old account, you restart Browse and you're in your old account. I guess its changing the username when I try to login and it doesn't match. Nothing to do with usernames :-) it's down to the serial number of the machine. I'll see if I can track this down, I am not sure where it gets the cookie and how aliasing works yet. The aliasing is fairly high level. In the 'login to moodle' process, moodle checks whether your SN is aliased to any other account. If so, it logs you into that _other_ acct instead. Yes, for some reason it was asking for the password. I had the soas nickname not matching on the old/new registrations. I rergistered with the same nickname and then followed the procedure exactly and I was logged in automatically. Dave cheers, m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff -- Dave Bauer d...@solutiongrove.com http://www.solutiongrove.com ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Aliasing and backup
On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 6:05 PM, Dave Bauer d...@solutiongrove.com wrote: This works. After making the first backup on the new SoaS I can see the previous snapshots and restore individual items. So - I'll have to fix that bug :-) m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
[Server-devel] New XS-0.6d2
Is being transferred to http://xs-dev.laptop.org/xs/other/OLPC-School-Server-0.6d2-i386.iso The sha1sum is 7157cc3db259cea6242cb395217ff8af166c1626 -- it contains various fixes to (minor) initial installation problems. With this version, the 1-2-3 of install, domain_config reboot just works. It still reports itself to be '0.5.2' but that's wolf in sheep's clothing :-) cheers, m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
