Re: Extracting and analysing journal data
On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 21:59, David Leemingda...@leeming-consulting.com wrote: Hello, In the Solomon Islands a formal evaluation is taking place this month of the 3 trials http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_Solomon_Islands The independent evaluator wants to extract and analyse journal data. The schools do not have servers yet so there is no data there, it needs to be done by pulling the data off a representative sample of XOs and then being able to analyse it with spreadsheet or database tools. Please can anyone advise if they know the best way to do this. Hi, what version of the software is in those laptops? Thanks, Tomeu David Leeming Honiara, Solomon Islands, South Pacific ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel -- «Sugar Labs is anyone who participates in improving and using Sugar. What Sugar Labs does is determined by the participants.» - David Farning ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Candidate paper cut bugs for a new 8.2.x release?
2009/8/30 NoiseEHC noise...@freemail.hu: I do not know what was the conclusion about this _completely hypothetical_ case but does fixing the Geode VGA driver match the paper cut criteria? Rough criteria: - Does it affect our primary users? (kids in deployment schools) - Do we have a field-tested patch? - Is it low risk? cheers, m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: SarynPaint: a Java program packaged for the OLPC
I think maintaining two parallel versions of the code in two languages would be a huge waste of effort for me, but if someone else wants to they are of course welcome to. I have neither time nor inclination to port it merely to work around the historical accident of Java not having been Open Source at the time Sugar was initially developed. Also, I think the UI of this program is actually more friendly to very young children by *not* being more Sugarized — there's no confusing Frame when they (inevitably) move the pointer to the edges of the screen, and since it doesn't (yet) have save support or text input there's really no reason for a toolbar or Journal integration. Mind you, minimal save/resume support might be nice to have on all platforms someday. On 2009-08-29, Gary C Martin g...@garycmartin.com wrote: Hi Ben, On 29 Aug 2009, at 18:24, Ben Wiley Sittler wrote: I think, then, that I would rather just ship it as an activity bundle for Sugar+Java or Sugar+OpenJDK, since the versioning issues (which OpenJDK version should I use, exactly?), licensing issues (GPLv2 GPLv2+classpath-exception for OpenJDK vs. GPLv3 for SarynPaint,) packaging unknowns (how does one run OpenJDK from a subdirectory, exactly?), and bloat make bundling a JRE inside the .xo ridiculously impractical. I'm halfway tempted to try to subset OpenJDK for this (to reduce bloat), but that seems like an even bigger nightmare. Sorry if this is a controversial comment, but would you considered porting the code to Python? It looks like a nice starter chunk of code for someone interested in Python and or Sugar Activities. Regards, --Gary ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: SarynPaint: a Java program packaged for the OLPC
Honestly, I think the lack of Java on the XO has more with python defensiveness then anything else. I draw this conclusion partly from the fact that it has been pretty crippling lack since initial inception of the XO, but one that there is great resistance to fixing nonetheless. On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 10:46 AM, Ben Wiley Sittler bsitt...@gmail.comwrote: I think maintaining two parallel versions of the code in two languages would be a huge waste of effort for me, but if someone else wants to they are of course welcome to. I have neither time nor inclination to port it merely to work around the historical accident of Java not having been Open Source at the time Sugar was initially developed. Also, I think the UI of this program is actually more friendly to very young children by *not* being more Sugarized — there's no confusing Frame when they (inevitably) move the pointer to the edges of the screen, and since it doesn't (yet) have save support or text input there's really no reason for a toolbar or Journal integration. Mind you, minimal save/resume support might be nice to have on all platforms someday. On 2009-08-29, Gary C Martin g...@garycmartin.com wrote: Hi Ben, On 29 Aug 2009, at 18:24, Ben Wiley Sittler wrote: I think, then, that I would rather just ship it as an activity bundle for Sugar+Java or Sugar+OpenJDK, since the versioning issues (which OpenJDK version should I use, exactly?), licensing issues (GPLv2 GPLv2+classpath-exception for OpenJDK vs. GPLv3 for SarynPaint,) packaging unknowns (how does one run OpenJDK from a subdirectory, exactly?), and bloat make bundling a JRE inside the .xo ridiculously impractical. I'm halfway tempted to try to subset OpenJDK for this (to reduce bloat), but that seems like an even bigger nightmare. Sorry if this is a controversial comment, but would you considered porting the code to Python? It looks like a nice starter chunk of code for someone interested in Python and or Sugar Activities. Regards, --Gary ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel -- ~~ Microsoft help desk says: reply hazy, ask again later. ~~ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: SarynPaint: a Java program packaged for the OLPC
On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 16:56, Jeffrey Kesselmanjef...@gmail.com wrote: Honestly, I think the lack of Java on the XO has more with python defensiveness then anything else. Honestly, I don't think so. Most or all of the Sugar developers had zero python experience when joined the project. And we are way too busy to care about language wars. I draw this conclusion partly from the fact that it has been pretty crippling lack since initial inception of the XO, but one that there is great resistance to fixing nonetheless. The Sugar platform is composed by what deployers want to be there, not by what each developer would like. If that was the case, we would have to ship the runtimes for all available languages and the XO doesn't have enough room for that, nm for the student's work... If you really think that Java should be there, propose to deployers of Sugar an activity that will bring value to their students and tell them to talk to us. Regards, Tomeu On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 10:46 AM, Ben Wiley Sittler bsitt...@gmail.com wrote: I think maintaining two parallel versions of the code in two languages would be a huge waste of effort for me, but if someone else wants to they are of course welcome to. I have neither time nor inclination to port it merely to work around the historical accident of Java not having been Open Source at the time Sugar was initially developed. Also, I think the UI of this program is actually more friendly to very young children by *not* being more Sugarized — there's no confusing Frame when they (inevitably) move the pointer to the edges of the screen, and since it doesn't (yet) have save support or text input there's really no reason for a toolbar or Journal integration. Mind you, minimal save/resume support might be nice to have on all platforms someday. On 2009-08-29, Gary C Martin g...@garycmartin.com wrote: Hi Ben, On 29 Aug 2009, at 18:24, Ben Wiley Sittler wrote: I think, then, that I would rather just ship it as an activity bundle for Sugar+Java or Sugar+OpenJDK, since the versioning issues (which OpenJDK version should I use, exactly?), licensing issues (GPLv2 GPLv2+classpath-exception for OpenJDK vs. GPLv3 for SarynPaint,) packaging unknowns (how does one run OpenJDK from a subdirectory, exactly?), and bloat make bundling a JRE inside the .xo ridiculously impractical. I'm halfway tempted to try to subset OpenJDK for this (to reduce bloat), but that seems like an even bigger nightmare. Sorry if this is a controversial comment, but would you considered porting the code to Python? It looks like a nice starter chunk of code for someone interested in Python and or Sugar Activities. Regards, --Gary ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel -- ~~ Microsoft help desk says: reply hazy, ask again later. ~~ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel -- «Sugar Labs is anyone who participates in improving and using Sugar. What Sugar Labs does is determined by the participants.» - David Farning ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
SHIRT SLOGAN VOTE! Class Acts Poster! OLPC/Sugar Community Book Sprint (Sept 6-11, Washington DC)
Please vote for the back of our T-Shirt -- Mike Lee's image will be on the front of the shirt: http://www.flickr.com/photos/curiouslee/3865753915/in/photostream/ But we need your help for the back!!! Proposal #1 (yes the constuctionist assessment parody's intentional!) NO NINO LEFT BEHIND Proposal #2 (from http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Five_principles ) CHILD OWNERSHIP LOW AGES SATURATION CONNECTION FREE AND OPEN SOURCE Proposal #3 (Caryl Bigenho's attached PDF, or close simulacra you provide!) Proposal #4, another fantastic oldtime OLPC joke (see http://rt.laptop.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=4519 and RT4424, or better yet ask a Supportive friend ;) MONGO HAPPY NOW /Please vote BY midnight latest -- publicly or privately is fine -- FYI I am paying for these T shirts with my own money, will be asking for a very small payment (about $6 covering half the costs if you want a shirt) and more important plz thank ALL the silent volunteers silently working their butts off on DC logistics around Sept 6-11's http://wiki.laptop.org/go/ClassActs :)/ T-shirt back.pdf Description: Adobe PDF document ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: SarynPaint: a Java program packaged for the OLPC
Hi, and thanks for trying it out! On 2009-08-29, Mikus Grinbergs mi...@bga.com wrote: I haven't been able to test that .xo link on an actual OLPC yet, so feel free to pass along bug reports, experiences, etc. These days I'm running F11-on-XO1 on my XO-1s -- SarynPaint launches and runs on both my smparrish build os6 and on my mtd build soasxo59. Neat! I keep meaning to try that, and in fact this post just inspired to me to buy a big SDHC card to dual-boot a regular Linux distro from. It shows that just checked in minimal support for launching it from Sugar - when I call up Frame, and (while SarynPaint is in Move mode) navigate along the screen edges on which Frame shows its facilities, what continues to respond is SarynPaint itself. For Sugar usability, an .xo ought to disregard user inputs directed to Sugar. Also, the log created by SarynPaint would currently be unhelpful in case of trying to debug the Activity's own actions. When I tried it on my daughter's XO the frame was not visible (at least not by mousing to the screen border.) Is that what you see too? Obviously the program was originally not written for Sugar, and purposefully goes full-screen and hopes the window manager respects that and does not interfere. Use the ESC key to exit. I realize that this is not at all proper Sugar UI, and would be better described as full-screen X11 app launched from Sugar. I think, though, that it might be better for early hand-eye coordination to not have a distracting Frame at all. However, I can see the argument for consistency and if someone would like to improve the Sugar integration I'm happy to take patches. Did not have my external speakers hooked up - the voices were kinda faint. At the very beginning, the cursor had to be pre-positioned on the SarynPaint screen, in order to avoid the explanation text from vanishing before it could be read (in soasxo59 the explanation text vanished despite me trying to prevent that). I noticed this bug (on other systems, too!) and plan to track it down and fix it when I have a moment. On my systems, feedback to the user via voice is not always consistent. Sometimes the control-press (e.g., enter) is not picked up [silence indicates I need to repeat the mode change]. Other times the control-press does get picked up, but I hear no output [silence indicates I don't need to repeat the mode change]. Thanks! I also noticed this bug (on other systems, too!) and plan to track it down and fix it when I have a moment; I'm not sure, though, when I'll get to it. As usual, patches gladly accepted :) Thank you again for the bug reports and ideas, and thanks for trying it out! -Ben ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [IAEP] SHIRT SLOGAN VOTE! Class Acts Poster! OLPC/Sugar Community Book Sprint (Sept 6-11, Washington DC)
On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 1:12 PM, Holth...@laptop.org wrote: Please vote for the back of our T-Shirt -- Mike Lee's image will be on the front of the shirt: http://www.flickr.com/photos/curiouslee/3865753915/in/photostream/ But we need your help for the back!!! Proposal #1 (yes the constuctionist assessment parody's intentional!) NO NINO LEFT BEHIND That's NIÑO. But no. It brings up too many bad memories for me. Proposal #2 (from http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Five_principles ) CHILD OWNERSHIP LOW AGES SATURATION CONNECTION FREE AND OPEN SOURCE Needs too much explanation. Proposal #3 (Caryl Bigenho's attached PDF, or close simulacra you provide!) Yes! XOs in two colors each, please. Or one giant two-color XØ over the entire text. Proposal #4, another fantastic oldtime OLPC joke (see http://rt.laptop.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=4519 and RT4424, or better yet ask a Supportive friend ;) MONGO HAPPY NOW Please leave inside jokes inside. Mongo confused now. Please vote BY midnight latest -- publicly or privately is fine -- FYI I am paying for these T shirts with my own money, will be asking for a very small payment (about $6 covering half the costs if you want a shirt) and more important plz thank ALL the silent volunteers silently working their butts off on DC logistics around Sept 6-11's http://wiki.laptop.org/go/ClassActs :) ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) i...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Edward Mokurai Cherlin Silent Thunder (默雷/धर्ममेघशब्दगर्ज/دھرممیگھشبدگر ج) is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://earthtreasury.org/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: SarynPaint: a Java program packaged for the OLPC
Early in OLPC, we seriously wanted to go with Java: but Sun's licensing was a serious issue we could not get around, despite a number of attempts by Walter to talk with Sun and see if it could get fixed. Part of the issue caused by this licensing was the all or nothing part of it: as shipped, the tar-ball-from-hell footprint of Sun's distro: 60MB was a lot too much, along with the memory consumption feared (but Python has proved to be similarly problematic). And at the time, the non-Sun implementations weren't mature enough. Both the licensing and implementations issues now seem pretty moot. So again, part of why Java is not ubiquitous to this day has been its license history Whether it, at this late date, can ever recover from the damage done by this history, is far from clear. Sigh - Jim Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 16:56, Jeffrey Kesselmanjef...@gmail.com wrote: Honestly, I think the lack of Java on the XO has more with python defensiveness then anything else. Honestly, I don't think so. Most or all of the Sugar developers had zero python experience when joined the project. And we are way too busy to care about language wars. I draw this conclusion partly from the fact that it has been pretty crippling lack since initial inception of the XO, but one that there is great resistance to fixing nonetheless. The Sugar platform is composed by what deployers want to be there, not by what each developer would like. If that was the case, we would have to ship the runtimes for all available languages and the XO doesn't have enough room for that, nm for the student's work... If you really think that Java should be there, propose to deployers of Sugar an activity that will bring value to their students and tell them to talk to us. Regards, Tomeu On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 10:46 AM, Ben Wiley Sittler bsitt...@gmail.com wrote: I think maintaining two parallel versions of the code in two languages would be a huge waste of effort for me, but if someone else wants to they are of course welcome to. I have neither time nor inclination to port it merely to work around the historical accident of Java not having been Open Source at the time Sugar was initially developed. Also, I think the UI of this program is actually more friendly to very young children by *not* being more Sugarized — there's no confusing Frame when they (inevitably) move the pointer to the edges of the screen, and since it doesn't (yet) have save support or text input there's really no reason for a toolbar or Journal integration. Mind you, minimal save/resume support might be nice to have on all platforms someday. On 2009-08-29, Gary C Martin g...@garycmartin.com wrote: Hi Ben, On 29 Aug 2009, at 18:24, Ben Wiley Sittler wrote: I think, then, that I would rather just ship it as an activity bundle for Sugar+Java or Sugar+OpenJDK, since the versioning issues (which OpenJDK version should I use, exactly?), licensing issues (GPLv2 GPLv2+classpath-exception for OpenJDK vs. GPLv3 for SarynPaint,) packaging unknowns (how does one run OpenJDK from a subdirectory, exactly?), and bloat make bundling a JRE inside the .xo ridiculously impractical. I'm halfway tempted to try to subset OpenJDK for this (to reduce bloat), but that seems like an even bigger nightmare. Sorry if this is a controversial comment, but would you considered porting the code to Python? It looks like a nice starter chunk of code for someone interested in Python and or Sugar Activities. Regards, --Gary ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel -- ~~ Microsoft help desk says: reply hazy, ask again later. ~~ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
RE: [support-gang] SHIRT SLOGAN VOTE! Class Acts Poster! OLPC/Sugar Community Book Sprint (Sept 6-11, Washington DC)
Hi All, I'm not a graphic artist so I just cobbled the pdf together on a ppt file and exported as pdf. My intent is to have the O at the end (in XO) have a happy face in it. The slashes across the Os above that need to be the same width as the lines in the letters. Did the best I could without spending hours learning how to do it right! Caryl Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 16:12:02 -0400 From: h...@laptop.org To: support-g...@laptop.org; grassro...@lists.laptop.org; i...@lists.sugarlabs.org; devel@lists.laptop.org Subject: [support-gang] SHIRT SLOGAN VOTE! Class Acts Poster! OLPC/Sugar Community Book Sprint (Sept 6-11, Washington DC) Please vote for the back of our T-Shirt -- Mike Lee's image will be on the front of the shirt: http://www.flickr.com/photos/curiouslee/3865753915/in/photostream/ But we need your help for the back!!! Proposal #1 (yes the constuctionist assessment parody's intentional!) NO NINO LEFT BEHIND Proposal #2 (from http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Five_principles ) CHILD OWNERSHIP LOW AGES SATURATION CONNECTION FREE AND OPEN SOURCE Proposal #3 (Caryl Bigenho's attached PDF, or close simulacra you provide!) Proposal #4, another fantastic oldtime OLPC joke (see http://rt.laptop.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=4519 and RT4424, or better yet ask a Supportive friend ;) MONGO HAPPY NOW Please vote BY midnight latest -- publicly or privately is fine -- FYI I am paying for these T shirts with my own money, will be asking for a very small payment (about $6 covering half the costs if you want a shirt) and more important plz thank ALL the silent volunteers silently working their butts off on DC logistics around Sept 6-11's http://wiki.laptop.org/go/ClassActs :) ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Grassroots-l] SHIRT SLOGAN VOTE! Class Acts Poster! OLPC/Sugar Community Book Sprint (Sept 6-11, Washington DC)
How about something like Open or Open Me with something suggesting either opening something that looks ambiguously like a book or a laptop (or perhaps an activity)? The double-play on open would resonate with some, while leaving another meaning for the uninitiated. Open Me. Look inside, for something a bit longer. -- Ubuntu Linux DC LoCo Washington, DC http://dc.ubuntu-us.org/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Grassroots-l] SHIRT SLOGAN VOTE! Class Acts Poster! OLPC/Sugar Community Book Sprint (Sept 6-11, Washington DC)
Not to cloud the issue too much at the last minute, but ideas keep popping into my head. This next one would only play in English, and where one is not too sensitive to typos... ;-) * O*pen Boo*X* Or, come up with your own pair of words that have O and X... Perhaps something with the O and X more central to the word. -- Ubuntu Linux DC LoCo Washington, DC http://dc.ubuntu-us.org/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Grassroots-l] SHIRT SLOGAN VOTE! Class Acts Poster! OLPC/Sugar Community Book Sprint (Sept 6-11, Washington DC)
me churning too, so option 5: Terminal screen Hello Children screen text in all languages option 6: magic markers for kids (and overgrown ones) to make their own T Shirt / book graphic winner gets on the front/back/ flap page of the production version option 7: constructionist with St. Nick/ Walter/ Mary Lou and other key players (an old original OLPC group photo?) maybe favorite logo/ product per person over their heads/ in their hands... ... On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 7:14 PM, Kevin Coledc.l...@gmail.com wrote: Not to cloud the issue too much at the last minute, but ideas keep popping into my head. This next one would only play in English, and where one is not too sensitive to typos... ;-) Open BooX Or, come up with your own pair of words that have O and X... Perhaps something with the O and X more central to the word. -- Ubuntu Linux DC LoCo Washington, DC http://dc.ubuntu-us.org/ ___ Grassroots mailing list grassro...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/grassroots -- DancesWithCars leave the wolves behind ;-) ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Server-devel] [Sugar-devel] Jabber Testing Monday Aug 24
Hi Caroline, sorry about the delay -- catching up on XS things now -- enormous thanks for the report. So controlling for Gadget and reg'd numbers, it seems that the ejabberd version (or perhaps other XS compoment) version makes a difference. The ejabberd upgrade was very significant, and the rework of the 'online' patch was also fairly important (I assume you are using the 'online' SRG as it's the 'default' config). In terms of Sugar preferring salut, and having to restart... - Maybe there are connectivity issues (high latency?) to the XS? - If connectivity to the XS is good, it should be enough to wait, as I've seen Sugar (0.82 at least) try Gabble every once in a while... - If waiting is not enough, it should be enough to reconnect to the AP. That definitely triggers a Gabble connection attempt IOWs if you do have to restart, there maybe a regression there... Overall, I find the relatively fast Telepathy switching a bit frustrating as a programmer, but I've seen how it's useful in real world usage. All I would ask for -- should a genius-in-a-lamp ask for my wishes -- would be some subtle UI hint. Maybe a variation on the quater-arcs that mark the connected AP or something like it... cheers, m On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 5:18 AM, Caroline Meekscarol...@solutiongrove.com wrote: Again we are working with XS1 - responding to jabber.sugarlabs.org. Installed a few months ago and currently with 1000 registered users, it tends to have about 20 people on it these days. XS2 - Installed a few weeks ago, responding to schoolserver.xsdev.solutiongrove.com with about 100 registered users First i connected to XS1 and joined a Turtle Art instance. CPU usage rose to 100%. When we stopped sharing the TA it dropped back down. We then shared a chat and CPU again rose to 100%. Next we switched to testing on XS2. Sharing Turtle Art and Chat did not spike the CPU. We felt there were 4 differences between XS1 and XS2 The number of registered users XS 1 is an older version of the XS 0.5.2. XS2 is 0.6beta XS 2 has Gadget XS1 had about 20 users logged in XS2 had 4 or 5 Next we turned off Gadget on XS2 and repeated our test. No CPU spike. Thus we think #3 is unlikely to be the important difference. Next we deleted the registered users on XS1 and switched our testing back to XS1. When we shared TA and chat there was still spikes up to 100% CPU. Thus we think #1 is unlikely to be the important difference. We will work on this again tomorrow so let us know your ideas A separate issue is that it hard to get the computers to connect up the the XS. They tended to stay on Salut, sometimes they would goto Jabber on resstart, other times not. We could really use better control and the ability to force one or the other. Here is the log of our conversation. Josely is Caroline at the GPA School 12:06 joasely-2260 the jabber server is back up to 100% CPU usage. 12:06 joasely-2260 22 people are online. over 1000 are registered 12:06 joasely-2260 one turtle Art is being shared. 12:06 joasely-2260 the load did not seem to change when the GPA computers I am controlling stopped sharing turtle art 12:07 joasely-2260 current hypothisis - its th 1000 registered users that is making the difference between decent performance and 100% CPU 12:08 daveb jabber is back to 0%cpu 12:09 joasely-2260 Interesting note. The Red Turtle Art activity seems to have been started by David who is not online anymore. 12:09 joasely-2260 ah very very interesting. 12:09 joasely-2260 let me join the turtle art again. 12:09 daveb joasely-2260: ok 12:09 daveb we have cpu logs every minute back until august 15 2:09 joasely-2260 ok I have joined the Turtle Art 12:10 joasely-2260 lets give it 5 minutes with just one person sharing it. then I'll add another peron 12:10 daveb up to 100% 12:10 joasely-2260 so note, we can scratch they hypothisis that its the 1000+ registered users. 12:10 daveb yes 12:11 joasely-2260 ok very cool. 12:11 joasely-2260 so sharing a turtle art activity causes 100% CPU 12:11 joasely-2260 I'm gong to quit TA 12:11 tomeu erikos: yes 12:11 satellit_ daveb: that TA has been up for several days 12:11 joasely-2260 let me know when its back down and I'll try a chat. 12:12 joasely-2260 thanks satelit_ 12:12 satellit_ I think it is an orphan 12:13 daveb satellit_: yes but when someone joins te cpu spikes 12:13 daveb joasely-2260: should we quit that and try a different activity? 12:13 daveb unfortunatly i tink debug is off on jabber 12:13 daveb ok cpu back to 0% 12:14 satellit_ daveb: is there a way to kill orphan shared items? 12:14 daveb satellit_: i have no idea 12:14 joasely-2260 started chat on one computer 12:14 daveb cpu 100% 12:15 joasely-2260 wow before I even joined it anywhere else 12:15 daveb yes 12:15 joasely-2260 still at 100%? 12:15 daveb yes 12:15 daveb now 12:15 daveb did we ever get this on the 0.6
Re: [Server-devel] stress testing schoolservers...
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 1:27 AM, Sameer Vermasve...@sfsu.edu wrote: I have a student who has to work on a graduate project. He has a background in using Selenium at Youtube. I'm thinking of getting him Interesting! On the XS, we have various things that would be stress-testable. - On the web front, Moodle. If he wants to play w Selenium, I can get him in touch with other ppl who have been working on some Selenium testing of Moodle -- last I saw, there were a few ad hoc sets of tests, but nothing formalised. Note that Selenium is mainly for correctness rather than load testing. - Other fronts: ejabberd - search this list for Douglas' posts on the topic for low-level testing, and search this same list for Caroline's posts on high level testing... In terms of what HW to test, XS-on-XO and a machine that roughly matches the XO-1.5 specs would be what I'd recommend. cheers, m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
[Server-devel] serving an XS
Hello as they are to all of the mailing list just wanted to know how can I know whether the services are on the server are running normally, and in that directory are saved back to the XO. -- Kevin Mauricio Benavides Castro Cel: (505) 8376-4616 Tener éxito en la vida no es llegar a tener fama, sino a realizar aquello que realmente deseas ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
[Server-devel] bios-crypto
Hello as they are to all of the mailing list I need help downloading the bios-crypto to an XS server which is not now that I can find directory to edit information -- Kevin Mauricio Benavides Castro Fundación Zamora Terán www.fundacionzt.org Technical Support-Nicaragua OLPC - www.fedoraproject.org Fedora Project Developer Linux User: #12356 ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
[Server-devel] configure a crypto bios xs
Ok martin una vez instalado el bios-crypto en un XS y ya tengo el archivo csv con los seriales y uuid de todas las maquinas ¿en qué directorio lo cargo? En el ejemplo que nos enviaste por el correo ya lo mire pero no tiendo…. Que es lo que tengo que hacer a continuación tengo las llaves que le diste a Raul que tiene las llaves privada de Nicaragua estas llaves son la que voy a colocar en el XS o las que recolecte de las maquinas O solo me voy al directorio /usr/shared/doc/olpc-bios-crypto-0.1.19.gc1637a4/README en este directorio lo tengo que editar -- Kevin Mauricio Benavides Castro Fundación Zamora Terán www.fundacionzt.org Technical Support-Nicaragua OLPC - www.fedoraproject.org Fedora Project Developer Linux User: #12356 ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
[Server-devel] disable makewhatis
Hi, By default, makewhatis runs every day on the XS. Seems like a waste of resources. Could we turn it off by default? The setting is in /etc/man.config Daniel ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
