Re: Sugar on the Asus Eee 701
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 5:54 AM, Tabitha Roder tabi...@hrdnz.com wrote: Copy of my blog post on the experience of installing Sugar on Asus Eee 701 Sugar on the Eee I wanted to put Sugar on an Asus Eee 701 for my niece. Thanks to Trademe I could pick one up at a reasonable price. For those that know me well, yes I had some help with setting up Sugar and yes I had some help with writing this post. SOAS Strawberry runs well on the Eee, but you can't really install it. There are various guides, which basically consist of Install anaconda Run liveinst Fight with partitioning (hint, don't choose automatic, choose custom, delete everything and make an ext3 partition) Fix the resulting broken redhat installation with no graphical interface by installing the entire KDE stack and messing with inittab (note, you'll need a wired ethernet connection, or epic iwconfig fu) Install sugar The first work around was just to dd the SOAS usb image directly onto the Eee's drive. This was good, the Eee boots quickly and starts sugar by default, however our USB image was only 1GB so we couldn't use the rest of the disk, and the journal complained that it was full, even when it wasn't. I think the journal problem was probably to do with the tricks the live image performs to boot of read only media, since we did a byte-for-byte copy of the live image, these are all still present when booting from the Eee's drive. I'm told a future version of SOAS may support installation to the hard disk. The current solution is the Ubuntu Netbook Remix and Sugar from alsroot's PPA. I used the Karmic Koala Beta and updated to the latest packages. This wasn't entirely plain sailing, Sugar's web browse activity didn't work until I did apt-get build-dep python-hulahop, see this bug. This has made the Eee a really nice platform, you can alt tab between Sugar and your other apps but not the netbook remix menu thing, so you can't start new non-sugar apps without quitting Sugar. The only real problem is the Eee 701's low res screen - not all activities are designed to shrink this far, Scratch being the most missed example as it is my nieces favourite. The things you do (or your helper does) to please a nine year old. Big thanks to said helper for giving up about 10 hours more than I thought we needed. Sharing the experience, I hope that this helps the developers see where the issues were and that next time I try this (I have another Eee ready) that it is easy to see improvements - I can wait a while ;-) You could use the current Fedora 11 Gnome LiveCD to install that and sugar is only around 20-30 meg on top of the standard gnome desktop and it will give you the same version of sugar but you'll probably get better hardware support for the 701. You can also do the same with the Fedora 12 Beta which works very well on the 701 and get the 0.86 release of sugar. Once you have sugar installed you can easily remove the gnome desktop or leave there as a second option. Regards, Peter ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Sugar on the Asus Eee 701
On Tue, 2009-10-27 at 08:36 +, Peter Robinson wrote: You could use the current Fedora 11 Gnome LiveCD to install that and sugar is only around 20-30 meg on top of the standard gnome desktop and it will give you the same version of sugar but you'll probably get better hardware support for the 701. You can also do the same with the Fedora 12 Beta which works very well on the 701 and get the 0.86 release of sugar. Once you have sugar installed you can easily remove the gnome desktop or leave there as a second option. Noting that I rely on technical assistance being an educator not a techie, the moment it got harder than insert USB and follow easy GUI install guide, my helper came along. Here is his response: having had a less than stellar experience with SOAS fedora, and my most recent previous experience of redhat involved choosing between RPM hell, red carpet (which would screw your system), yum (which would screw your system, or apt-get (which would screw your system in ways you didn't think were possible), I thought I'd stay with what I know and use ubuntu (I know, that redhat package management stuff is ancient history and yum seems to work fine now, I only mention it to illustrate that I last used redhat in the dark ages, a kind soul on irc told me that yum won that battle) the netbook remix seems to be working well on the eee, although I only used it for about an 10 minutes before handing off to the 9 year old The guys at https://launchpad.net/~sugarteam are apparently actively working to package sugar for ubuntu, so I'll try that out next time ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Server-devel] Early F11 XS build
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 6:42 PM, Jerry Vonau jvo...@shaw.ca wrote: What error did anaconda throw up? Got a link to those instructions? I couldn't get past the syslinux boostrap. Never got to anaconda. I think I did what's outlined here http://galder.zamarreno.com/?p=244 cheers, m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Server-devel] Early F11 XS build
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 10:40 PM, Jerry Vonau jvo...@shaw.ca wrote: http://members.shaw.ca/jvonau/pub/mkusbinstall-F11 http://members.shaw.ca/jvonau/pub/mkusbinstall-F12 Cool. I'll add those to the xs-livecd repo. My XO-1 boots using version 0.7.0 iso as the source for mkusbinstall. Great. I still think that for XO hardware it's saner to ship the built img. Running anaconda / rpm on the limited RAM is a pretty daunting exercise. And we want to control the kernel we use on the XO. Not all the fedora-updates kernels / initrds work. cheers, m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: os33 - video regression ?
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 05:20, Jon Nettleton jon.nettle...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, 2009-10-26 at 22:42 -0400, Mikus Grinbergs wrote: James wrote: But this is a hang - which leaves the XO-1.5 completely unresponsive to operator input (except for the power button). So I do not have my normal opportunity to capture file contents, etc. They are wiped out by the reboot I perform to access the system again. I think Martin mentioned he was able to get in to the hung system with SSH. I have basically never used SSH -- so I would have to do a lot of learning before I could use that to obtain better information than I have now (I wrote all I knew in my post). The XV hard lock is being caused by a while loop in the Flip function. I am looking into additional changes that need to be done to the code to support XV on the VX855 chipset. This should resolve general video playback, but will not have any effect on Flash based video. Flash Video only supports accelerated video using OpenGL, everything else is strictly done on the CPU. Is true what is suggested in this ticket? That Adobe Flash stopped using Xv in a minor release in the v9 series? http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/5408 Regards, Tomeu In the future we will hopefully get better video playback, but can not get docs for VIA's MPEG4 engine due to patent restrictions. This means that 3d acceleration will be the best option available to us. That is still way out in the future on our feature timeline. Hope that helps to clear things up. Jon ___ Fedora-olpc-list mailing list fedora-olpc-l...@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-olpc-list -- «Sugar Labs is anyone who participates in improving and using Sugar. What Sugar Labs does is determined by the participants.» - David Farning ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Booting squashfs from olpc.fth
You probably need to do a dcon-unfreeze as well. \ OLPC boot script unfreeze dcon-unfreeze u:\android\initrd.img to ramdisk u:\android\kernel to boot-device root=/dev/ram0 console=tty0 androidboot.hardware=xo1 to boot-file boot Sebastian Silva wrote: Hello I'm trying to boot into Trisquel like you would boot SOAS. My problem is with making the olpc.fth file currently i'm trying with the following \ Boot script for SD Boot \ created from http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Custom_bootloader ro boot=casper rootdelay=1 splash console=ttyS0,115200 console=tty0 fbcon=font:SUN12x22 to boot-file sd:\boot\vmlinuz to boot-device sd:\boot\initrd.img to ramdisk unfreeze boot But the kernel does not seem to load as it freezes... Let me know what other data I can give to help me debug this. Thanks -- Sebastian Silva Colectivo FuenteLibre http://blog.fuentelibre.org/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Server-devel] Backup and Recovery
Hi Martin, We are using XS v 06d5, Sugar 0.84 and the ds-backup rpm from http://dev.laptop.org/~martin/public_rpms/joyride/ds-backup-client-0.8.1-1.olpc3.noarch.rpm All modifications are in the latest patches in http://dev.sugarlabs.org/ticket/1124 I'm in the process of debugging the problem. It's either when backup is made or when the restore file is downloaded. I have inspected the files in /library/users in the XS and it look like the metdata is properly created. Best, Hamilton On Tue, 2009-10-27 at 11:02 +0100, Martin Langhoff wrote: On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 10:27 PM, Caroline Meeks carol...@solutiongrove.com wrote: Backup is now working for us but when I try to recover files by clicking on Hi Caroline! You are a bit of a moving target, I don't know what XS you are using, or what Sugar you are using. And which ds-backup you are using, with which of Hamilton's many versions of the fixup paches (vanilla Sugar would normally not have backup). So... I dunno! You probably need to do a bit of debugging yourself to diagnose the situation. them in Moodle they are not showing up in Sugar with the right file type to be used again. They show up as File Activity + Backup and I can't open That sounds _very_ wrong. Moodle should be serving the backups with a special mimetype that Sugar recognizes as a Journal Entry Bundle -- so the Journal unpacks it and imports it (hence showing the right name, and type). For XOs can you download files and use them again on a new XO? Yes. I hate to say it, but it works for me. m ___ Server-devel mailing list server-de...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: Sugar on the Asus Eee 701
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 1:54 AM, Tabitha Roder tabi...@hrdnz.com wrote: Copy of my blog post on the experience of installing Sugar on Asus Eee 701 Sugar on the Eee I wanted to put Sugar on an Asus Eee 701 for my niece. Thanks to Trademe I could pick one up at a reasonable price. For those that know me well, yes I had some help with setting up Sugar and yes I had some help with writing this post. SOAS Strawberry runs well on the Eee, but you can't really install it. There are various guides, which basically consist of First, the most interesting and handy thing about a netbook, is the ease of booting off removeable media. Many of my friends use SD cards to try out different OS. That said, you can do a full install from SOAS using the zyx-liveinstaller. You can download it http://filteredperception.org/smiley/projects/zyx-liveinstaller/ and install it with rpm and then run it. It will install to any disk, either the built in SSD or a removable USB or SD card. This is just one option, of course. Dave Install anaconda Run liveinst Fight with partitioning (hint, don't choose automatic, choose custom, delete everything and make an ext3 partition) Fix the resulting broken redhat installation with no graphical interface by installing the entire KDE stack and messing with inittab (note, you'll need a wired ethernet connection, or epic iwconfig fu) Install sugar The first work around was just to dd the SOAS usb image directly onto the Eee's drive. This was good, the Eee boots quickly and starts sugar by default, however our USB image was only 1GB so we couldn't use the rest of the disk, and the journal complained that it was full, even when it wasn't. I think the journal problem was probably to do with the tricks the live image performs to boot of read only media, since we did a byte-for-byte copy of the live image, these are all still present when booting from the Eee's drive. I'm told a future version of SOAS may support installation to the hard disk. The current solution is the Ubuntu Netbook Remix and Sugar from alsroot's PPA. I used the Karmic Koala Beta and updated to the latest packages. This wasn't entirely plain sailing, Sugar's web browse activity didn't work until I did apt-get build-dep python-hulahop, see this bug. This has made the Eee a really nice platform, you can alt tab between Sugar and your other apps but not the netbook remix menu thing, so you can't start new non-sugar apps without quitting Sugar. The only real problem is the Eee 701's low res screen - not all activities are designed to shrink this far, Scratch being the most missed example as it is my nieces favourite. The things you do (or your helper does) to please a nine year old. Big thanks to said helper for giving up about 10 hours more than I thought we needed. Sharing the experience, I hope that this helps the developers see where the issues were and that next time I try this (I have another Eee ready) that it is easy to see improvements - I can wait a while ;-) ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel -- Dave Bauer d...@solutiongrove.com http://www.solutiongrove.com ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Server-devel] Backup and Recovery
Hi Martin, I have more info. As I mentioned earlier, I verified that the backed up files have the right metadata. I now checked the datastore on my local sugar install. I looked for the downloaded file. I see that it is a journal entry with a data file and a metadata directory. I can unzip the data file to get to the backed up files and it has the correct metadata. I think the problem is that the journal doesn't recognize it as a zip file and does not unzip it. I don't know enough about how this works yet so I wanted to ask, what tells the Journal to recognize the download as a backup file that should be restored (or unzipped). Can I get a sample of the metadata directory of a downloaded backup file ? Thanks in advance, Hamilton On Tue, 2009-10-27 at 19:29 +0800, Hamilton Chua wrote: Hi Martin, We are using XS v 06d5, Sugar 0.84 and the ds-backup rpm from http://dev.laptop.org/~martin/public_rpms/joyride/ds-backup-client-0.8.1-1.olpc3.noarch.rpm All modifications are in the latest patches in http://dev.sugarlabs.org/ticket/1124 I'm in the process of debugging the problem. It's either when backup is made or when the restore file is downloaded. I have inspected the files in /library/users in the XS and it look like the metdata is properly created. Best, Hamilton On Tue, 2009-10-27 at 11:02 +0100, Martin Langhoff wrote: On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 10:27 PM, Caroline Meeks carol...@solutiongrove.com wrote: Backup is now working for us but when I try to recover files by clicking on Hi Caroline! You are a bit of a moving target, I don't know what XS you are using, or what Sugar you are using. And which ds-backup you are using, with which of Hamilton's many versions of the fixup paches (vanilla Sugar would normally not have backup). So... I dunno! You probably need to do a bit of debugging yourself to diagnose the situation. them in Moodle they are not showing up in Sugar with the right file type to be used again. They show up as File Activity + Backup and I can't open That sounds _very_ wrong. Moodle should be serving the backups with a special mimetype that Sugar recognizes as a Journal Entry Bundle -- so the Journal unpacks it and imports it (hence showing the right name, and type). For XOs can you download files and use them again on a new XO? Yes. I hate to say it, but it works for me. m ___ Server-devel mailing list server-de...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: Deducto and Color Deducto activities - creating your own game mechanism
Caroline, Appreciate your pointers and feedback. On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 7:25 AM, Caroline Meeks carol...@solutiongrove.comwrote: Hi, This is cool thanks! Is there a way to lower the floor? I am sorry, but I didn't get this part. Could you please elaborate. One of the Sugar sayings is Low Floor, No Ceiling that is its really really easy to start, very little learning curve to climb, but you can still do powerful things as you learn more and more. Caroline, completely agree. I think we should focus on simple geometrical shapes for Deducto, as you mentioned below. We hope to cover primary lessons in geometry through Deducto by the third week of December. Perhaps, that might lower the floor. In reference to Color Deducto, we are still thinking about a suitable framework. Wish if you could suggest some ideas. Is there a version of this game that a 6 year old could have easy success with that would help ramp it up? Wish if you could share your ideas on how we could work and improve on this area. Will having a hint feature in the game that pops up after a couple of tries, and after viewing 5-8 true boards and false boards makes things better? Hmm, I'm not actually very good at designing games but I suggest taking a look at the Sudoku game and Implode. Maybe start with a very small board and totally obvious rules? Sure. I'll have a close look at Sudoku and Implode games. Thank you. How can we teach someone who can't read the instructions on how to play? Workflows demonstrated through videos might help. Please have a look at these videos http://www.scalablec.com/videos/12/how-to-play-deducto? http://www.scalablec.com/videos/13/how-to-play-colordeducto? Kindly let me know your feedback on them. Suzanne, the 4th grade teacher at the GPA, has the students play a Guess my rule game with shapes. For example, All right angles Only Triangles, Two sides the same. Very interesting. We will be working on developing lesson plans using Deducto and Color Deducto this winter. This use-case will be explored in detail before we implement this in the activities. Wish if you could provide us with lesson plans that teachers at GPA would like us to implement in these activities. Thank you very much for sharing these ideas. Right now they play it with cut out shapes. One student makes a secret rule (e.g. all right angles) and the other student selects shapes and is told if they match the rule. They have to guess the rule. Caroline, thank you. This information is indeed very helpful. Do we have a place to put game ideas so programmers could pick them up if they want a project? Not at this juncture. We'll start this section within the next 2 days. Great! We have started Sugar-Devel Lounge at http://seeta.in/wiki/index.php?title=Sugar-Devel_Lounge. Wish if you could put up your ideas over there. Thanks for all the good work!!! Thank you so much for your encouragement and support. Regards, Manu On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 3:18 PM, Manusheel Gupta m...@laptop.orgwrote: Dan, Ashita has been working on a user guide for create your own game mechanism for Deducto and Color Deducto activities. The guide is not yet complete and needs a flow chart, but should be good enough to walk you through this feature. Please find it attached along with this e-mail. On a separate note, this feature is open to development, and we will see more enhancements soon. Regards, Manu -- Forwarded message -- From: Ashita Dadlani ash...@seeta.in Date: Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 12:34 AM Subject: revised color deducto documentation To: Manusheel Gupta m...@seeta.in, -- Ashita Dadlani Software Engineer, Products and Services Software for Education, Entertainment and Training Activities http://seeta.in ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel -- Caroline Meeks Solution Grove carol...@solutiongrove.com 617-500-3488 - Office 505-213-3268 - Fax -- Caroline Meeks Solution Grove carol...@solutiongrove.com 617-500-3488 - Office 505-213-3268 - Fax ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: os33 - video regression ?
But this is a hang - which leaves the XO-1.5 completely unresponsive to operator input (except for the power button). So I do not have my normal opportunity to capture file contents, etc. They are wiped out by the reboot I perform to access the system again. Not in the current build. /var/log is currently backed by disk not ram. We haven't gotten far enough along to get fancy yet. So your logs should persist. -- Richard A. Smith rich...@laptop.org One Laptop per Child ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Server-devel] xs-activation and OS update info
On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 7:09 AM, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote: Here's a patch that makes xs-activation server OS update information based on what it has available in xs-rsync. I like it -- thanks! It was in my TO DO notes with the earlier xs-activation work, and ended up cutting it. I did this by creating /etc/xs-activation-updates.cfg, a sample configuration file with explanation is attached. This is code from oatslite which is deployed in paraguay. Right... makes sense. I am a bit intrigued with the custom config file parser / writer (that is 3x the sloc of the whole xs-activation ;-) ). I am guessing the key motivator is that YAML, JSON and other config formats won't preserve ordering correctly, right? - is MyConfigParser used anywhere else? - odict is only needed on F9, correct? What is needed in terms of config parsing is pretty simple -- I suspect there are a couple of simple ways we could avoid depending on the ordering of the config file, with less code. cheers, m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Server-devel mailing list server-de...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: os33 - video regression ?
To the best of my knowledge Flash has never supported the XVideo extension. The reason for this is that Xv scales YUV data and Flash uses RGB data. Now could this be converted and scaled absolutely, but Adobe has decided they are not going down that road. Xv can blit both YUV and RGB data to the overlay. I do not know why do not they support Xv but this cannot be the reason... ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
New F11 for XO-1.5 build 34
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/F11_for_1.5 http://dev.laptop.org/~cjb/f11-1.5/os34 Compressed image size: 405.48mb (+9.83mb since build 33) Description of changes in this build: * First shot at Chinese language keyboard support from Sayamindu (#9541) Package changes since build 33: +cjkuni-uming-fonts-0.2.20080216.1-26.fc11.noarch -csound-5.10.1-12.fc11.i586 +csound-5.10.1-13.fc11.i586 -geoclue-0.11.1.1-0.6.20090310git3a31d26.fc11.i586 +geoclue-0.11.1.1-0.9.1.20091026git73b6729.fc11.i586 -gnumeric-1.8.4-3.fc11.i586 +gnumeric-1.8.4-5.fc11.i586 -goffice-0.6.6-2.fc11.i586 +goffice-0.6.6-4.fc11.i586 -gstreamer-plugins-good-0.10.16-2.fc11.i586 +gstreamer-plugins-good-0.10.16-4.fc11.i586 -jasper-libs-1.900.1-10.fc11.i586 +jasper-libs-1.900.1-13.fc11.i586 -libv4l-0.6.2-1.fc11.i586 +libv4l-0.6.3-1.fc11.i586 -pciutils-3.1.4-2.fc11.i586 +pciutils-3.1.4-3.fc11.i586 -pciutils-libs-3.1.4-2.fc11.i586 +pciutils-libs-3.1.4-3.fc11.i586 -poppler-0.10.7-2.fc11.i586 +poppler-0.10.7-3.fc11.i586 -poppler-glib-0.10.7-2.fc11.i586 +poppler-glib-0.10.7-3.fc11.i586 -quota-3.17-5.fc11.i586 +quota-3.17-6.fc11.i586 -totem-2.26.3-6.fc11.i586 +totem-2.26.4-2.fc11.i586 -totem-gstreamer-2.26.3-6.fc11.i586 +totem-gstreamer-2.26.4-2.fc11.i586 -totem-mozplugin-2.26.3-6.fc11.i586 +totem-mozplugin-2.26.4-2.fc11.i586 -tzdata-2009o-1.fc11.noarch +tzdata-2009o-2.fc11.noarch -xkeyboard-config-1.5-5.fc11.noarch +xkeyboard-config-1.5-7.fc11.noarch ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: On XO-1 soas03xo has flaky behavior
* The crash on vertical scrolling is really hurting me. I cannot access all of my Journal, nor all of Home List View (I have to use the search field -- *if* I know what I am looking for). Got the same issue, but could work around it by setting the X server into 24bpp mode instead of 16bpp. Smells like a geode driver bug to me, but I have not reported it to the freedesktop.org bugzilla yet. Benjamin ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Sharing files among several XO
In a server-less environment I need to share several files among XO, in the term of an Etoys project file provided by the teacher and the students grabbing it. I tried to share a project from Etoys, but it lead to an error, (kind of server error messages) I tried the Distribute activity but it proved to be unreliable. I am using XO with latest stable Sugar updated from olpc-update Hilaire -- http://blog.ofset.org/hilaire ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Server-devel] Early F11 XS build
On Sun, 2009-10-25 at 12:44 +0100, Martin Langhoff wrote: On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 9:51 AM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: -- the vanilla F11 kernels fail to boot on the XO -- expected? I think it should boot but I don't think the boot.fth is created but its been a while since I've got around to trying it on my XO. Is this with anaconda or with your XO image? I've booted F11's anaconda that was released on the dvd in my prior testing. boot.fth is created from the kickstart file. The missing thing are the symlinks (vmlinuz, initrd) but I've created those ok. The initrd is clearly unpacked and exec'd but t never completes booting. If it's expected to work, I can work on tracing WTH is going on. If it's known not to work for hard-to-fix reasons, well... Around Aug 5 I created an XS iso that is bootable on the XO, uname returns 2.6.29.6-213.fc11.i386 from tty2 in the installer. - However, that means that making a bootable usb is harder for users. What causes it to be harder to make a bootable usb? To clarify -- a bootable installer. Making a bootable installer from a Fedora DVD involves downloading the netinst iso separately and copying it into the USB disk. No, you just need files from /isolinux /images on the dvd or disc1... Doesn't mkusbinstall work anymore? Well there is one thing that should be updated for F11, to avoid confusing anaconda over method/repo/stage2. Edit the sed replacement line replacing method= with repo=, the inner workings are slightly different between F9 and F11. Jerry ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Server-devel] Early F11 XS build
On Mon, 2009-10-26 at 10:52 +0100, Martin Langhoff wrote: On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 1:17 AM, Jerry Vonau jvo...@shaw.ca wrote: Is this with anaconda or with your XO image? I've booted F11's anaconda that was released on the dvd in my prior testing. XO image - I'll try tomorrow with the kernel you report as working - and if that works report a bug against the (newer) one I ended up getting. No, you just need files from /isolinux /images on the dvd or disc1... Doesn't mkusbinstall work anymore? Frankly I didn't try it with the XS iso, but assumed it'd be the same as with the F11 DVD. Will try. Earlier, when preparing the installer for my build machine (which has no DVD/CD reader), mkusbinstall (running on a F9 host) did not work for me with the F11 DVD, and I found some instructions that fixed it, by downloading the netboot iso and placing it in /images. What error did anaconda throw up? Got a link to those instructions? I needed to run an update.img to get the installer to see my install when I was upgrading my workstation, can't recall if that problem extended to the usb install method. Maybe there was PEBKAC and/or just a better fix (hints?). I just hope the instructions for our end users can be simple :-) I'm re-testing now, but I'm on a F11 host... Ok, see two issue, I forgot that the behaviour of method= changed between F9 F11. We now need to make use of stage2= in place of method=(method is going away, anyway). Second is we are assuming with sed that there is a ks= in the line we're replacing. confusing anaconda over method/repo/stage2. Edit the sed replacement line replacing method= with repo=, the inner workings are slightly different between F9 and F11. thanks! - I'll fix that :-) Working up a patch cheers, m Jerry ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Server-devel] Early F11 XS build
On Mon, 2009-10-26 at 12:42 -0500, Jerry Vonau wrote: On Mon, 2009-10-26 at 10:52 +0100, Martin Langhoff wrote: snip Maybe there was PEBKAC and/or just a better fix (hints?). I just hope the instructions for our end users can be simple :-) I'm re-testing now, but I'm on a F11 host... Ok, see two issue, I forgot that the behaviour of method= changed between F9 F11. We now need to make use of stage2= in place of method=(method is going away, anyway). Second is we are assuming with sed that there is a ks= in the line we're replacing. confusing anaconda over method/repo/stage2. Edit the sed replacement line replacing method= with repo=, the inner workings are slightly different between F9 and F11. thanks! - I'll fix that :-) Working up a patch I had been working on the F12 version for a bit, the F11 is a backport of F12. http://members.shaw.ca/jvonau/pub/mkusbinstall-F11 http://members.shaw.ca/jvonau/pub/mkusbinstall-F12 My XO-1 boots using version 0.7.0 iso as the source for mkusbinstall. The ks file is going to need a bit of work to be useful with an XO-1's mmc card. Now to get it to boot on XO-1.5... Jerry ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: os33 - video regression ?
On Mon, 2009-10-26 at 22:42 -0400, Mikus Grinbergs wrote: James wrote: But this is a hang - which leaves the XO-1.5 completely unresponsive to operator input (except for the power button). So I do not have my normal opportunity to capture file contents, etc. They are wiped out by the reboot I perform to access the system again. I think Martin mentioned he was able to get in to the hung system with SSH. I have basically never used SSH -- so I would have to do a lot of learning before I could use that to obtain better information than I have now (I wrote all I knew in my post). The XV hard lock is being caused by a while loop in the Flip function. I am looking into additional changes that need to be done to the code to support XV on the VX855 chipset. This should resolve general video playback, but will not have any effect on Flash based video. Flash Video only supports accelerated video using OpenGL, everything else is strictly done on the CPU. In the future we will hopefully get better video playback, but can not get docs for VIA's MPEG4 engine due to patent restrictions. This means that 3d acceleration will be the best option available to us. That is still way out in the future on our feature timeline. Hope that helps to clear things up. Jon ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: os33 - video regression ?
On Tue, 2009-10-27 at 10:23 +, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: Is true what is suggested in this ticket? That Adobe Flash stopped using Xv in a minor release in the v9 series? http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/5408 To the best of my knowledge Flash has never supported the XVideo extension. The reason for this is that Xv scales YUV data and Flash uses RGB data. Now could this be converted and scaled absolutely, but Adobe has decided they are not going down that road. My guess as to the minor release performance slow down, is that the linux flash player gained Mpeg-4 video support in that release. H.264 is much more processor intensive and would explain the performance problems seen after the upgrade. This same release was also the first release that supported the Xembed protocol. Some inefficiency there could also have created the video performance problem. Hope that helps to clear up the playing field. Jon ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Q3a14 release notes missing.
Hi. Q3a14 release notes are missing in the wiki. is this intended to be so ? Rafael Ortiz ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Server-devel] unregister soas
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 2:30 AM, David Leeming da...@leeming-consulting.com wrote: I don't have access to the XO used as admin in 0.5.2 before upgrading. I want to restore Moodle and all the ejabberd data to fresh install status and then start again. Is thispossible? I suppose I can just reinstall 0.6 fresh. But if there's a way let me know. You are on 0.6, right? Instructions follow service moodle-xs stop # drop the moodle database, rm the uploaded files (if any) sudo -u postgres dropdb moodle-xs rm -fr /library/moodle-xs/* # indicate to moodle that it should re-init its DB touch /etc/moodle/needsupgrade service moodle-xs start Moodle now controls ejabberd so no need to touch ejabberd's database that at all. cheers, m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] unregister soas
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 9:32 AM, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote: rm -fr /library/moodle-xs/* Actually, that line should be rm -fr /var/lib/moodle/* cheers, m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Backup and Recovery
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 10:27 PM, Caroline Meeks carol...@solutiongrove.com wrote: Backup is now working for us but when I try to recover files by clicking on Hi Caroline! You are a bit of a moving target, I don't know what XS you are using, or what Sugar you are using. And which ds-backup you are using, with which of Hamilton's many versions of the fixup paches (vanilla Sugar would normally not have backup). So... I dunno! You probably need to do a bit of debugging yourself to diagnose the situation. them in Moodle they are not showing up in Sugar with the right file type to be used again. They show up as File Activity + Backup and I can't open That sounds _very_ wrong. Moodle should be serving the backups with a special mimetype that Sugar recognizes as a Journal Entry Bundle -- so the Journal unpacks it and imports it (hence showing the right name, and type). For XOs can you download files and use them again on a new XO? Yes. I hate to say it, but it works for me. m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Early F11 XS build
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 10:40 PM, Jerry Vonau jvo...@shaw.ca wrote: http://members.shaw.ca/jvonau/pub/mkusbinstall-F11 http://members.shaw.ca/jvonau/pub/mkusbinstall-F12 Cool. I'll add those to the xs-livecd repo. My XO-1 boots using version 0.7.0 iso as the source for mkusbinstall. Great. I still think that for XO hardware it's saner to ship the built img. Running anaconda / rpm on the limited RAM is a pretty daunting exercise. And we want to control the kernel we use on the XO. Not all the fedora-updates kernels / initrds work. cheers, m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Backup and Recovery
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 3:31 PM, Hamilton Chua hamilton.c...@gmail.com wrote: I see that it is a journal entry with a data file and a metadata directory. I can unzip the data file to get to the backed up files and it has the correct metadata. That sounds right. I think the problem is that the journal doesn't recognize it as a zip file and does not unzip it. Two options there: moodle isn't serving it with the right mime-type (application/vnd.olpc-journal-entry) or something is going amiss in the Browse.xo-Journal handling of the file. If you can do a packet capture of when you download the file, you should be able to see the mimetype being sent... m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Backup and Recovery
Hi Martin, Two options there: moodle isn't serving it with the right mime-type (application/vnd.olpc-journal-entry) or something is going amiss in the Browse.xo-Journal handling of the file. If you can do a packet capture of when you download the file, you should be able to see the mimetype being sent... The metadata for the journal is application/vnd.olpc-journal-entry as per its metadata. I'll do a packet capture as you suggested and I'll check the apache server logs too for clues. Thanks very much for taking the time to look at the issue. I'll report back as soon as I've found something. Best, Hamilton ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Backup and Recovery
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 5:05 PM, Hamilton Chua hamilton.c...@gmail.com wrote: The metadata for the journal is application/vnd.olpc-journal-entry as per its metadata. I'll do a packet capture as you suggested and I'll check the apache server logs too for clues. Then you can probably skip the packet capture. The problem is somewhere between Browse.xo and the Journal. The Journal should never store a file that gets downloaded by Browse with application/vnd.olpc-journal-entry; instead it should unpack it and import it, reading its metadata. cheers, m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] minor xs-activation-httphandler bug
On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 8:32 AM, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote: xs-activation-httphandler.py does: lease = myoat.get_lease(sn, 300) if lease is not None: myoat.mark_served_lease(sn) resp[lease] = lease Duh! thanks for the report. Fixed, pushed out. m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
