Re: wlan interface (was: first play with new XO 1.5 machines)

2009-10-29 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 12:17 PM, Daniel Drake  wrote:
> 2009/10/26 Albert Cahalan :

>>> The issue is that A and B are both hosting their own networks, they
>>> are both beacon masters, spewing beacons based off their own clocks.
>>
>> How is this any different than the mesh situation?
>
> Exactly how the XO-1 mesh functions on this level is frustratingly
> unknown, but when I did a couple of simple observations once before,
> the clocks appear to synchronize with the neighbours.
>
>> Which clock? Do you mean one for the individual bits, or one
>> for packet-level time division?
>
> I mean the clock in the 802.11 MAC sublayer. This defines the basis of
> the timing synchronization function (TSF) which is a core part of
> 802.11. Without synchronized clocks, nodes cannot communicate.

I talked with one of the 802.11 experts I know. He's quite sure
that there should be no problem on Atheros hardware at least.
He has no problem transmitting arbitrary packets at arbitrary
times and no problem receiving packets either. The only limit
is that you get just one channel at a time.

I'll check with a couple of the other experts I know.

The TSF stuff  looks like an optimization that you don't really need,
except perhaps when sending to a receiver that stops listening
at certain times. Lame hardware misses out, no surprise.
___
Devel mailing list
Devel@lists.laptop.org
http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel


Re: Sharing files among several XO

2009-10-29 Thread Hilaire Fernandes
2009/10/29 Bert Freudenberg :
>
> On 29.10.2009, at 02:47, Hilaire Fernandes wrote:
>
>> Under Etoys, If I keep down the mouse button and choose "Save under
>> another name" (I am not sure about the exact message), and save the
>> project with another name, then in the journal the previous instance
>> of the project is replaced with this new one. I will check again
>> tonight.
>>
>> Note: Pay attention I am not just using the Keep button
>
> Why?!

Because I need it to conduct test and I want to be sure to save
another instance of the project, under another name.
Btw, I can confirm you renaming the project in Etoys toolbar then
saving does not produce another instance everytime.
The modus operendi of the journal does not looks intuitive to me, but
well it does not count really as I am not the typical target audiance.

Hilaire


> Simply stop Etoys to save to the Journal, overwriting the previous entry.
>
> Simply click the Keep button to create a new entry in the Journal.
>
> Simply edit the name in the Etoys toolbar to rename. Or rename in the
> Journal.
>
> The hidden save menu options let you save to a file or upload to the
> Squeakland website. They do not save to the Journal. They are hidden for a
> reason.
>
> - Bert -
>
>



-- 
http://blog.ofset.org/hilaire
___
Devel mailing list
Devel@lists.laptop.org
http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel


Re: Developing Applications on Sugar

2009-10-29 Thread Walter Bender
I think the easiest way to get started is to modify an existing
activity. The source to all of Sugar and the Sugar activities is
available in our git tree:  git.sugarlabs.org

regards.

-walter

On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 4:01 PM, Emeka  wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> I have gone through Python langauge tutorials and books in order to be able
> to write applications for Sugar. Now, I need tutorials that based on Python
> that run on Sugar. I would also want to have poniters and links to the
> source codes of applications written for Sugar environment. Any other help
> that might be useful to me please don't hesitate to send across. I hope this
> post is in the right group, if not please let me know where to post it.
>
> Regards,
> Janus
> ___
> Devel mailing list
> Devel@lists.laptop.org
> http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
>
>



-- 
Walter Bender
Sugar Labs
http://www.sugarlabs.org
___
Devel mailing list
Devel@lists.laptop.org
http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel


Developing Applications on Sugar

2009-10-29 Thread Emeka
Hello All,

I have gone through Python langauge tutorials and books in order to be able
to write applications for Sugar. Now, I need tutorials that based on Python
that run on Sugar. I would also want to have poniters and links to the
source codes of applications written for Sugar environment. Any other help
that might be useful to me please don't hesitate to send across. I hope this
post is in the right group, if not please let me know where to post it.

Regards,
Janus
___
Devel mailing list
Devel@lists.laptop.org
http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel


Re: wlan interface (was: first play with new XO 1.5 machines)

2009-10-29 Thread Daniel Drake
2009/10/26 Albert Cahalan :
>> The issue is that A and B are both hosting their own networks, they
>> are both beacon masters, spewing beacons based off their own clocks.
>
> How is this any different than the mesh situation?

Exactly how the XO-1 mesh functions on this level is frustratingly
unknown, but when I did a couple of simple observations once before,
the clocks appear to synchronize with the neighbours.

> Which clock? Do you mean one for the individual bits, or one
> for packet-level time division?

I mean the clock in the 802.11 MAC sublayer. This defines the basis of
the timing synchronization function (TSF) which is a core part of
802.11. Without synchronized clocks, nodes cannot communicate.

Daniel
___
Devel mailing list
Devel@lists.laptop.org
http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel


Re: Sharing files among several XO

2009-10-29 Thread Bert Freudenberg

On 29.10.2009, at 02:47, Hilaire Fernandes wrote:

> Under Etoys, If I keep down the mouse button and choose "Save under
> another name" (I am not sure about the exact message), and save the
> project with another name, then in the journal the previous instance
> of the project is replaced with this new one. I will check again
> tonight.
>
> Note: Pay attention I am not just using the Keep button

Why?!

Simply stop Etoys to save to the Journal, overwriting the previous  
entry.

Simply click the Keep button to create a new entry in the Journal.

Simply edit the name in the Etoys toolbar to rename. Or rename in the  
Journal.

The hidden save menu options let you save to a file or upload to the  
Squeakland website. They do not save to the Journal. They are hidden  
for a reason.

- Bert -

___
Devel mailing list
Devel@lists.laptop.org
http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel