Re: New XO-1.5 10.2.0 build 120

2010-04-22 Thread James Cameron
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 11:41:01PM -0400, Chris Ball wrote:
> * Speak: upstream Speak-14 release is broken (SL #1934), revert to Speak-11.

Speak-15 is included though.
http://build.laptop.org/10.1.1/os120/os120.activities.txt

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Re: Physics retains objects

2010-04-22 Thread James Cameron
On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 12:25:06AM -0700, Sameer Verma wrote:
> On XO 1.5 (build 119) and SoaS Blueberry Physics retains objects on
> the screen after closing the activity and reopening it. This does not
> happen on the XO1 802 build. Bug?

Feature.  A six-year old child called me on the phone a few days ago to
get this "fixed".  I'd lent him an XO-1.5 to play with, but had
neglected necessary training.

Check that you haven't restarted a journal entry by accident.  It's easy
to do ... look at the activity ring, and if the Physics icon is
monochrome then clicking it will start a new empty instance.

If the icon is your XO colours, then it means that clicking it will
resume the top journal entry saved by that activity.

You may also right-click on the activity ring icon and select the
monochrome Start entry in the menu.  Or, in Blueberry alone, I think you
can use Alt or some other keyboard modifier.  (Can't remember, and can't
make it work yet on XO-1.5)

Oh, and you can't *not* save a journal entry.

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Re: Alternative to Create a new wireless network

2010-04-22 Thread James Cameron
Oh, and if you suspend and resume you get another three mesh icons
created, and then another three, ... hey, this is fun!

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Re: Alternative to Create a new wireless network

2010-04-22 Thread James Cameron
On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 05:17:17PM +0200, Simon Schampijer wrote:
> based on the discussion in this thread I have created a first patch 
> attached to ticket #9845 [1] implementing the three default ad hoc 
> networks for channel 1, 6 and 11.

Merged with my other wireless changes and tested on XO-1.5.  Clicking on
one of the new icons doesn't seem to create an ad-hoc network.  I didn't
look into why yet.  Maybe something in what I've changed.

> * Do we agree to have three icons, one for each available channel?

Yes, three, one for each of the three well separated channels one, six
and eleven.  The icons should look different to each other in some way
so that they can be chosen by voice among the users.

My preference is a distinctive colour and brightness set with large
localised numerals over the icon.  The icons should look the same on all
laptops, and should not look at all like the XO-1 mesh icons.

> * Naming: do we agree to name the networks 'Mesh Network [channel name]' 
> even though they are no mesh networks but in order to keep 'backwards 
> compatibility'?

No.  I'd prefer we lose the word Mesh for these icons.  I suggest the
word "Our" or "My" instead of "Mesh".

> * I do not save the connection to the nm-config file and don't mark them 
> to autoconnect, so we do not autoconnect when starting Sugar. I think, 
> as an ad-hoc network is not a persistent configuration this makes sense.

Yes, certainly.

> * Should we add an icon for 'mesh-network-connected' to better represent 
> the mesh network we are currently connected to?

I don't understand this question, sorry.  Oh, maybe you mean that the
icons should indicate connection status.  Yes!  In the same way that
access point icons are changed; parentheses either side.

> * Connection sharing: So far the connections created are 'link-local' 
> connections. What is the plan for sharing an internet connection over an 
> adhoc network? As the XO has only one network device, i guess this is 
> not a common scenario.

No opinion.

> * Remove the 'Create Network' ability of the wireless frame device 
> palette: As we have the default ad-hoc networks we may not need the 
> ability to create adhoc networks anymore. It may be more confusing then 
> of any help, what do others think?

Yes, remove it.

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Re: Hulahop browser screen width XO1.0 vs XO1.5

2010-04-22 Thread George Hunt
No, I don't think it is a widget, gtk problem -- since I could change the
CSS to correct the problem.

I wrote a javascript fragment:

document.write('width:' + window.screen.width + " height:" +
window.screen.height);

On XO1.0 I got a response: "width:840 height:634" and on XO1.5 I got
"width:1200 height:900"

If this is a known situation, and it is desired for some good reason, I'm
sure people like me can live with it.  Otherwise I think the rendering
engine on 1.0 and 1.5 should come up with similar defaults -- and
considering our installed base-- it should be compatible 800x600.

Persuant to Seth's suggestion, I've discovered that it is possible to write
CSS using percentages rather than absolute pixel dimensions, and circumvent
haveing to make a decision in javascript based upon reported screen
dimension, and load separate CSS pages.

Somebody has cleaned up the webview widget.  I'm having to work around a
problem in build 802 that is fixed in F11 -- In the earlier build the widget
controled it's own visibility by doing 'self.web_view.get_toplevel().hide()'
which made it much more difficult to incorporate in at activity that wanted
to use other widgets as well.

Who's maintaining Hulahop/webview?

George


On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 1:39 PM, Tomeu Vizoso  wrote:

> On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 04:27, George Hunt  wrote:
> > Hi again,
> >
> > My activity uses Hulahop Browser for its help system.  The default
> browser
> > on the XO`1.0 seems set up for 800x600.   The CSS width specs  on the
> > functioning HELP activity add up to 800 px wide and everything works out
> ok.
> >
> > But on F11 XO1.5, the same help activity only renders about 2/3 full
> screen.
> > And I'm experiencing similar problems rendering my help pages between 1.0
> > and 1.5.
> >
> > On F11, I believe the default screen width sensed by the xulrunner engine
> is
> > the 1200x900,   the actual screen size.
> >
> > I'm pretty sure there's a way to ask the gecko engine to render on a
> 800x600
> > screen, or alternatively to ask gecko on the XO1.0 to render on a
> 1200x900
> > surface.
> >
> > But I don't know XUL well and I feel I'd be wasting my time learning
> about
> > how to set up gecko, if someone already knows how to solve this one.  I'd
> be
> > willing to modify HELP activity, once we I find an acceptable solution.
>
> Hmm, is the problem that the html content doesn't cover the whole
> hulahop area, or that the hulahop widget doesn't fill the whole
> screen?
>
> If the former, it's a matter of html. If the latter, hulahop is a
> normal gtk widget and you should use the gtk api to make what you
> want. Hulahop should behave the same as a gtk.Button in this regard,
>
> HTH,
>
> Tomeu
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Re: Alternative to Create a new wireless network

2010-04-22 Thread Frederick Grose
On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 2:36 PM, Frederick Grose  wrote:

> On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 12:24 PM, Simon Schampijer wrote:
>
>> On 04/22/2010 06:10 PM, Martin Langhoff wrote:
>> > On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 11:57 AM, Mikus Grinbergs
>>  wrote:
>> >> To me, the greatest drawback to the existing icon(s) is that they do
>> not
>> >> show the channel.  If you have three icons, for heaven's sake draw them
>> >> with static symbols ("1", "6", "11") to show where a connection would
>> be
>> >> attempted.
>> >
>> > I like that! If you want a group to join you on ch 1, it's hard to
>> > guide them through the process.
>> >
>> > Having the number or a shape (that isn't used elsewhere) in the middle
>> > of the circle(s) would be great.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > m
>>
>> I actually thought about that today, too. The problem is with
>> localization. I guess it does not have to be a number, can be another
>> symbol that tells me 1, 6, 11.
>>
>> Though, maybe Gary or Eben have an idea how that could be visually
>> represented and how the status (connected, not connected) can be added
>> to the icon.
>
>
> Maybe the radio standards organizations already have something, but these
> symbols came to mind (attached).
>

I prefer the simpler Maya numerals [1] because they are graphically simpler
and correspond
with the 5-MHz separation of center-channel frequencies.

Channel 1 at 2412 MHz   0
   5 x 5 MHz difference0
Channel 6 2437
   5 x 5 MHz difference0
Channel 11   2462

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maya_numerals
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Re: [Server-devel] OLPC & Moodle use

2010-04-22 Thread David Van Assche
nope, is it a moodle site with creative commons material, because if it is,
we can copy the content over to schools and l-for-e. Hmmm... actually
looking at it now It seems to be extremely slow, or maybe thats just my
connection right now. In any case it does seem non-moodle, but if its
creative commons it would be a great place to pull materials from. With
their permission of course. Ok, just checked non-create commons, but perhaps
if we link the paypal to their site, they might let us use the material.

kind regards,
David

On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 7:19 PM, Luuk Terbeek wrote:

> Dear Frederick, David and Martin,
>
> Thanks for your quick and clear response, schools.sugarlabs.org and
> linux-for-education.org seems very interesting.
> First of all I will take a closer look to both sites and of course to the
> already existing wiki material and the Moodle K-12 forum.
> After that I will make a decision to start a new wikipage (related to best
> practices, of which I hope to find a lot) and / or to add ideas to
> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XS_Project_Ideas
>
> Thanks also Martin for you book recommendation (
> https://www.packtpub.com/beginners-guide-moodle-1-9-for-teaching-7-14-year-olds/book)
> I've also orderd a copy (plus the ebook ;-) ).
>
> Btw. Regarding content, do you, members of the server-devel list, know the
> organisation 'e-Learning for Kids', http://www.e-learningforkids.org/ ?
>
> Regards, Luuk
>
>
>
>
> 2010/4/19 Martin Langhoff 
>
>  On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 4:40 PM, Luuk Terbeek 
>> wrote:
>> > Currently I'm preparing a presentation for the Dutch Moodle Moot.
>> > I hope to spread the word of the wonderful things that happen
>> > & possibilities regarding the use of Moodle related to the OLPC project.
>>
>> Excellent!
>>
>> > For that reason I try to create an overview of best practices regarding
>> the
>> > use of Moodle in the OLPC project.
>>
>> I don't have anything specific -- it's early days! Others might have
>> more experience in the field.
>>
>> What I can point towrds is
>>
>>  - There is a "Moodle k-12" forum in Moodle.org. I'd invite people to
>> join the conversation there. And read the archives -- some very
>> interesting threads are waiting for you...
>>
>>  - Mary Cooch ("Moodlefairy") has published a book
>>
>> https://www.packtpub.com/beginners-guide-moodle-1-9-for-teaching-7-14-year-olds/book
>> -- I've ordered mine but it isn't here yet :-) -- if her blog is
>> anything to go by, it'll be *very* good.
>>
>> If you want to make a wikipage with best practices, please do!
>> http://wiki.laptop.org :-)
>>
>>
>>
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Re: Alternative to Create a new wireless network

2010-04-22 Thread Frederick Grose
On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 12:24 PM, Simon Schampijer wrote:

> On 04/22/2010 06:10 PM, Martin Langhoff wrote:
> > On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 11:57 AM, Mikus Grinbergs  wrote:
> >> To me, the greatest drawback to the existing icon(s) is that they do not
> >> show the channel.  If you have three icons, for heaven's sake draw them
> >> with static symbols ("1", "6", "11") to show where a connection would be
> >> attempted.
> >
> > I like that! If you want a group to join you on ch 1, it's hard to
> > guide them through the process.
> >
> > Having the number or a shape (that isn't used elsewhere) in the middle
> > of the circle(s) would be great.
> >
> >
> >
> > m
>
> I actually thought about that today, too. The problem is with
> localization. I guess it does not have to be a number, can be another
> symbol that tells me 1, 6, 11.
>
> Though, maybe Gary or Eben have an idea how that could be visually
> represented and how the status (connected, not connected) can be added
> to the icon.


Maybe the radio standards organizations already have something, but these
symbols came to
mind (attached).

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Re: Hulahop browser screen width XO1.0 vs XO1.5

2010-04-22 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 04:27, George Hunt  wrote:
> Hi again,
>
> My activity uses Hulahop Browser for its help system.  The default browser
> on the XO`1.0 seems set up for 800x600.   The CSS width specs  on the
> functioning HELP activity add up to 800 px wide and everything works out ok.
>
> But on F11 XO1.5, the same help activity only renders about 2/3 full screen.
> And I'm experiencing similar problems rendering my help pages between 1.0
> and 1.5.
>
> On F11, I believe the default screen width sensed by the xulrunner engine is
> the 1200x900,   the actual screen size.
>
> I'm pretty sure there's a way to ask the gecko engine to render on a 800x600
> screen, or alternatively to ask gecko on the XO1.0 to render on a 1200x900
> surface.
>
> But I don't know XUL well and I feel I'd be wasting my time learning about
> how to set up gecko, if someone already knows how to solve this one.  I'd be
> willing to modify HELP activity, once we I find an acceptable solution.

Hmm, is the problem that the html content doesn't cover the whole
hulahop area, or that the hulahop widget doesn't fill the whole
screen?

If the former, it's a matter of html. If the latter, hulahop is a
normal gtk widget and you should use the gtk api to make what you
want. Hulahop should behave the same as a gtk.Button in this regard,

HTH,

Tomeu

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Re: Alternative to Create a new wireless network

2010-04-22 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 04/22/2010 06:10 PM, Martin Langhoff wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 11:57 AM, Mikus Grinbergs  wrote:
>> To me, the greatest drawback to the existing icon(s) is that they do not
>> show the channel.  If you have three icons, for heaven's sake draw them
>> with static symbols ("1", "6", "11") to show where a connection would be
>> attempted.
>
> I like that! If you want a group to join you on ch 1, it's hard to
> guide them through the process.
>
> Having the number or a shape (that isn't used elsewhere) in the middle
> of the circle(s) would be great.
>
>
>
> m

I actually thought about that today, too. The problem is with 
localization. I guess it does not have to be a number, can be another 
symbol that tells me 1, 6, 11.

Though, maybe Gary or Eben have an idea how that could be visually 
represented and how the status (connected, not connected) can be added 
to the icon.

Regards,
Simon

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Re: Alternative to Create a new wireless network

2010-04-22 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 11:57 AM, Mikus Grinbergs  wrote:
> To me, the greatest drawback to the existing icon(s) is that they do not
> show the channel.  If you have three icons, for heaven's sake draw them
> with static symbols ("1", "6", "11") to show where a connection would be
> attempted.

I like that! If you want a group to join you on ch 1, it's hard to
guide them through the process.

Having the number or a shape (that isn't used elsewhere) in the middle
of the circle(s) would be great.



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Re: Alternative to Create a new wireless network

2010-04-22 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
> * Do we agree to have three icons, one for each available channel?

I have written this before -- I do NOT believe that three "dumb" icons
are more intuitive to use than one "intelligent" icon.  The only
advantage to three icons is that a new network can be launched with a
single click (after having navigated around to find *which* icon to
click), whereas an "intelligent" single icon requires two actions - a
hover to call out the palette, then a click on an entry within that palette.

To me, the greatest drawback to the existing icon(s) is that they do not
show the channel.  If you have three icons, for heaven's sake draw them
with static symbols ("1", "6", "11") to show where a connection would be
attempted.  If only a single icon is used, it should at all times show a
dynamic symbol representing the channel to which the radio is currently
tuned (a different channel would be selected via the palette).

I think that even very young children would quickly learn which channel
to use in which physical location.  I fail to see how presenting three
icons (which are indistinguishable from each other) helps communication.

I vote for one, intelligent, icon.

mikus


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Re: Alternative to Create a new wireless network

2010-04-22 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 11:17 AM, Simon Schampijer  wrote:
> based on the discussion in this thread I have created a first patch
> attached to ticket #9845 [1] implementing the three default ad hoc
> networks for channel 1, 6 and 11. A screenshot can be found there, too.
> There are a few open questions about the general approach I want to name
> here:

Great to see this in motion!

> * Do we agree to have three icons, one for each available channel?

+1

> * Naming: do we agree to name the networks 'Mesh Network [channel name]'
> even though they are no mesh networks but in order to keep 'backwards
> compatibility'?

Changing name here is important... Even for xo-1+802 compatibility. If
the ad-hoc network has a different name, then XO-1+802 can see it and
connect to it.

Might make sense to keep the icons though - or have another icon
variant. Seems important that the icon for these ad-hoc networks must
be different from real APs.

> * I do not save the connection to the nm-config file and don't mark them
> to autoconnect, so we do not autoconnect when starting Sugar. I think,
> as an ad-hoc network is not a persistent configuration this makes sense.

Sounds reasonable.

> * Should we add an icon for 'mesh-network-connected' to better represent
> the mesh network we are currently connected to?

It makes sense to keep using a differentiated icon...

> * Connection sharing: So far the connections created are 'link-local'
> connections. What is the plan for sharing an internet connection over an
> adhoc network? As the XO has only one network device, i guess this is
> not a common scenario.

I'd say "for later" and avoid feature creep, though it's been
requested separately.

I think people working on the 3G modem integration were looking into
connection sharing -- it makes sense to ensure that both features play
well together...

> * Remove the 'Create Network' ability of the wireless frame device

+1



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Re: Alternative to Create a new wireless network

2010-04-22 Thread Sascha Silbe

On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 05:17:17PM +0200, Simon Schampijer wrote:

* Naming: do we agree to name the networks 'Mesh Network [channel 
name]' even though they are no mesh networks but in order to keep 
'backwards compatibility'?
Please don't. Besides given two identically named sets of "networks" on 
XO-1, it will mislead people into thinking a) these are interoperable 
with Mesh networks and b) they work like Mesh networks (i.e. do packet 
forwarding).


* Connection sharing: So far the connections created are 'link-local' 
connections. What is the plan for sharing an internet connection over 
an adhoc network?
Given that most of the time the gateway only has a single "official" 
IPv4 address, NAT is required anyway. NetworkManager doesn't support 
IPv6 "connection sharing" yet [1], so we can't support it either.
An interesting option might be to use a bridge on the gateway. Will DHCP 
be used for connecting to existing ad-hoc networks?



[1] https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=593815

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Re: Alternative to Create a new wireless network

2010-04-22 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 12/08/2009 03:04 AM, Reuben K. Caron wrote:
> Daniel,
>
> Since we've run into problems with creating ad-hocs networks on the XO
> 1.5 (1) (2), I've been thinking about this functionality, the change
> in UI behavior and perhaps the decrease in usability and I don't like
> it. I believe it is clunky to have children create their own
> networks..Who designates who creates the network? Why do I have to
> join that network? Why can't I make my own network and have them join
> me, etc.. All of this is aside from the technical limitations of which
> channel does my network get created on. Does the user specify channels
> 1, 6, or 11 when creating the network, or does the channel randomly
> get set? If randomly set, how do we avoid channel overlaps and
> interference.
>
> To ease all of this and maintain a similar UI, what if we:
>
> -Create three faux "Mesh Channel #" icons in the Network view
> -When the child wants to join a mesh network they will select one of
> the networks
> -Upon selection: the XO will: 1. Scan to see if that ad-hoc network
> already exists and 2. if it does not exist the XO will create the
> network allowing other children to join it.
>
> The one pitfall of this idea, and I'm not sure how much of an issue
> this would be, is also the pitfall of ad-hoc networks...when the
> initiator of the ad-hoc network leaves the network fails. When the
> network has a respective name it is a bit more obvious when that
> person has left and the reason why the network has failed, this would
> not be the case given the anonymity of a "Mesh Network #." A more long
> term solution to this problem may be for the XO to sense the loss of
> the initiator and recreate the network. In this case, the first XO to
> sense the loss of the network after some period of time would check if
> another XO has already setup the network, if not the XO would create
> the network or join the new one if it already exists.
>
> Aside from the one pitfall, I think it would be really beneficial to
> maintain the same UI and appearance of functionality. Further
> development in this area may also help us get MPP back, at least at
> the software level.
>
> Your thoughts?
>
> Regards,
> Reuben
>
>
>
> (1) http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/9807
> (2) http://dev.sugarlabs.org/ticket/1604


Hi everyone,

based on the discussion in this thread I have created a first patch 
attached to ticket #9845 [1] implementing the three default ad hoc 
networks for channel 1, 6 and 11. A screenshot can be found there, too. 
There are a few open questions about the general approach I want to name 
here:

* Do we agree to have three icons, one for each available channel?

* Naming: do we agree to name the networks 'Mesh Network [channel name]' 
even though they are no mesh networks but in order to keep 'backwards 
compatibility'?

* I do not save the connection to the nm-config file and don't mark them 
to autoconnect, so we do not autoconnect when starting Sugar. I think, 
as an ad-hoc network is not a persistent configuration this makes sense.

* Should we add an icon for 'mesh-network-connected' to better represent 
the mesh network we are currently connected to?

* Connection sharing: So far the connections created are 'link-local' 
connections. What is the plan for sharing an internet connection over an 
adhoc network? As the XO has only one network device, i guess this is 
not a common scenario.

* Remove the 'Create Network' ability of the wireless frame device 
palette: As we have the default ad-hoc networks we may not need the 
ability to create adhoc networks anymore. It may be more confusing then 
of any help, what do others think?

Thanks,
Simon

[1] http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/9845


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Re: libdlo

2010-04-22 Thread Richard A. Smith
On 04/22/2010 10:26 AM, John Watlington wrote:

> Sameer,
> You want us to add software to our build so that
> you can support an $89 USB peripheral that requires
> a separate screen, keyboard, and mouse ?
>
> I'm sorry, but building more computer labs isn't
> what OLPC is about.

Where are you reading that displaylink requires a separate keyboard and 
mouse? libdlo supports the chip and the protocol not any specific device.

While not immediately usefull overall I think this is a +1 since I've 
received several requests via the support gang list on how to make the 
USB VGA adapter work.  Many have tried and seems everyone but the 
original has failed.  USB projectors are listed as products that might 
be useful (if the have the currently spported chip or when other chips 
are added)

All the the requests for a USB video were so they could hook it up to a 
projector for training classes. The possibility of USB projector support 
seems very worthwhile.

If none of the projectors are supported yet then there's not much point 
in adding it to the build but if someone gets a projector working then 
we certainly should support it.

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Re: libdlo

2010-04-22 Thread Sameer Verma
On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 7:26 AM, John Watlington  wrote:
>
> Sameer,
>   You want us to add software to our build so that
> you can support an $89 USB peripheral that requires
> a separate screen, keyboard, and mouse ?
>
> I'm sorry, but building more computer labs isn't
> what OLPC is about.
>
> wad
>

I was thinking about pico projectors that can run off of batteries and
project fairly good pictures on walls and many of these come with usb
interfaces + DisplayLink.

cheers,
Sameer

> On Apr 22, 2010, at 3:29 AM, Sameer Verma wrote:
>
>> libdlo and an X driver are used to run USB displays using DisplayLink.
>> Is this going to make it into the 1.5 build?
>> http://libdlo.freedesktop.org/wiki/
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Re: Record activity for XO-1.5

2010-04-22 Thread Daniel Drake
On 22 April 2010 05:42, Aleksey Lim  wrote:
> If there is an intention to have dev.l.o branch on git.sl.o, I can add
> new user to commiters list to merge/reset master to dev.l.o code.
> In this case we just need someone who will maintain it and also git.sl.o
> code is targeting to not only XO users and maybe Xv less issue could be
> a problem for someone (but not sure that many people will be affected).

This sounds good, but I don't think I'll have time to be maintainer.
Perhaps someone else can step up.


In other news:

I've restored non-Xv support in my git tree.

10.2.0 build 120 fixes the video corruption issue.

jnettlet says he's fixed the openchrome video scaling problem.
(waiting for RPMs)

Audio/video sink has regressed since XO-1, and forcing the alsasrc
device to plughw:0,0 (like others have suggested) doesn't seem to make
any difference as far as I can tell. But it's not too bad.

Daniel
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Re: libdlo

2010-04-22 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 10:26 AM, John Watlington  wrote:
>   You want us to add software to our build so that
> you can support an $89 USB peripheral that requires
> a separate screen, keyboard, and mouse ?

OTOH, we are including some drivers for usbvga devices -- useful if
there's an ext monitor, or projector. I thought this was one of
those...?

Of course it enables extra hw that can be costly, but if you have one
usbvga+projector combo per school, shared amongst classrooms, it can
be a great addition to the mix.

cheers,


m
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Re: libdlo

2010-04-22 Thread John Watlington

Sameer,
   You want us to add software to our build so that
you can support an $89 USB peripheral that requires
a separate screen, keyboard, and mouse ?

I'm sorry, but building more computer labs isn't
what OLPC is about.

wad

On Apr 22, 2010, at 3:29 AM, Sameer Verma wrote:

> libdlo and an X driver are used to run USB displays using DisplayLink.
> Is this going to make it into the 1.5 build?
> http://libdlo.freedesktop.org/wiki/
> Sameer
> -- 
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> Associate Professor, Information Systems
> Director, Campus Business Solutions
> San Francisco State University
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Re: Record activity for XO-1.5

2010-04-22 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 02:59:38PM -0300, Daniel Drake wrote:
> On 20 April 2010 18:06, Daniel Drake  wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Here's a version of the Record activity which works on XO-1.5:
> > git://dev.laptop.org/users/dsd/record
> 
> I updated this git tree.
> 
> The code I announced yesterday is now in the v60-plus-tweaks branch.
> 
> The master branch (non-fast-forward) is now the Record git tree from
> activities.sugarlabs.org, with my v60 rework placed on top of it. i.e.
> working towards a patch series that can be applied to SL upstream.
> It's working fine but has a regression over v66 - v66 supports systems
> without Xv, this one does not. (not a release blocker, IMO, but might
> not be too much effort to add this again)

Current plans of Record on http://git.sugarlabs.org/projects/record:

Since there are window related glitches on metacity (0.86+) and coding
gst on python level is fragile (if make this precess smooth i.e. w/o
just reset everything on every mode switch) in such not trivial case
like Record. I was planing to code current master as less as possible
and switch to camerabin and new UI w/ gtk.Window less design.

Unfortunately I found that camerabin (w/ some proposed to upstream
patches) can smooth work on XO-1 only in 176x144 mode, but in such
resolution camera view region is less then usual which makes this mode
useless. So, since most of users have XO-1 (I suppose) and coding
two phases vide encoding (one encoded vide + wav and wav encoding in
second phase) sounds pretty uncommon in not XO-1 case (and also for
camerabin upstream) I postponed new Record coding.

If there is an intention to have dev.l.o branch on git.sl.o, I can add
new user to commiters list to merge/reset master to dev.l.o code.
In this case we just need someone who will maintain it and also git.sl.o
code is targeting to not only XO users and maybe Xv less issue could be
a problem for someone (but not sure that many people will be affected).

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libdlo

2010-04-22 Thread Sameer Verma
libdlo and an X driver are used to run USB displays using DisplayLink.
Is this going to make it into the 1.5 build?
http://libdlo.freedesktop.org/wiki/
Sameer
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Physics retains objects

2010-04-22 Thread Sameer Verma
On XO 1.5 (build 119) and SoaS Blueberry Physics retains objects on
the screen after closing the activity and reopening it. This does not
happen on the XO1 802 build. Bug?

Sameer
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