Ubuntu Sugar Remix on XO-1.5

[James Cameron]

Announcing an XO-1.5 Ubuntu Sugar Remix build, based on the "maverick"
testing suite that should lead to 10.10.

The build is 320 MB compressed, 978 MB installed, and is built on a 4
GB partition size.

The .zd file can be installed using fs-update on an unsecured XO-1.5
with an internal microSD size of 4 GB or more.  The .tar.gz file can
be unpacked onto a USB drive with a newly created ext2 filesystem.

Download from:
http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/uxo/2010-09-14/maverick/

Known problems:

- Read fails to start, some problem with evince dependencies,

- Memorize fails to start, because "import gst" fails,

- several Pippy examples fail to start, because "import pippy" fails,

- no power management, the olpc-powerd package is not installed,

- no attempt made to trim the build.

Activities included and started: Flipsticks, Log Viewer, Slider
Puzzle, Turtle Art, Write, Poll, Chat, Connect, Jigsaw Puzzle,
Physics, Terminal, Calculate, Pippy.  These were what the
ubuntu-sugar-remix package caused to be installed.

git://dev.laptop.org/users/quozl/uxo is my repository of scripts that
construct these builds.

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Re: USB charging while XOs are switched off

[Christoph Derndorfer]

On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 7:44 PM, Paul Fox  wrote:

> christoph wrote:
>  > Hi all,
>  >
>  > going through some of my notes from South America I stumbled across a
>  > question from a Peruvian teacher who had asked me whether future XOs
> would
>  > allow her to charger her mobile phone while the XO is turned off. Not
> sure
>  > where she had seen that but I think it combination with more and more
> mobile
>  > phones going to towards USB chargers this is actually quite an
> interesting
>  > idea.
>  >
>  > Is this a feature that has been considered for the XO-1.75?
>
> if by "off" you really mean "off", then i doubt the USB ports will
> have power when the laptop is off.  if by "off" you mean "in suspend",
> then i'm sure we'll be considering it.


Mmm, if I remember correctly my flatmate's Lenovo T400s has a powered USB
port which works both when the laptop is suspended as well as when it's
turned off...


> we were hoping to have USB
> powered during suspend on 1.5, but were foiled by poor documentation
> of the gpio pins in question.
>

Okay, too bad to hear that.

Will you make another attempt for the XO-1.75?

Christoph

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Re: OLPC XO-2 -> Acer dual touchscreen

[Walter Bender]

cjb recently showed me a Toshiba (presumably already in production)
with dual touch screens.

-walter

On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 6:44 PM, Carlos Nazareno  wrote:
> And here we go:
>
> http://www.techreviewsource.com/blog/?p=781
>
> Wonder what kind of support Win7 is using for this, as in how to
> customize the keyboard & pop up interface widgets there.
>
> The best part of dual touchscreens is the new kinds of interface
> changes and toys you can make...
>
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Re: OLPC XO-2 -> Acer dual touchscreen

[Chris Ball]

Hi,

   > And here we go: http://www.techreviewsource.com/blog/?p=781

That's got two 15" displays -- the Libretto W100 is closer to the
XO-2 design:  http://laptops.toshiba.com/laptops/libretto/W100

   > Wonder what kind of support Win7 is using for this, as in how to
   > customize the keyboard & pop up interface widgets there.

In the Libretto's case, the Win7 software integration is (IMO) not
good.  There are some interesting UI ideas in there, though.

- Chris.
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FREE OLPC Repair+Training FEST - Cambridge, Mass - Sat Sept 18, NOON-3PM

[Holt]

Be there or be square, at an event that might never happen again--
don't miss your rock star trainers who will be:

  _Ian Daniher_: *pioneered the OLPC Community
  Repair Center* in the spring of 2007, inspiring
  many others around the world here:
  http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Repair_center_locations

  _Richard Smith_: *invented half this stuff*, anything and
  everything XO, XO-1.5 and beyond, nevermind
  you can't find a friendlier guy (north of Arkansas;
  with apologies to Mary Lou Jepsen who May have
  invented even more ;)

Come walk through the XO-1 de-bricking process, *learning critical
repair techniques* like this to protect your own XO investment and
helping tons of others globally, if the screen ever stops working etc:

  http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Fix_clock
  http://olpc-france.org/blog/2010/09/date-systeme-invalide/

We'll also produce some *awesome new videos* for upcoming OLPC
deployments in the Midde East, meeting some of this region's
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/The_*Learning_Team* as well as surveying some
brand new XO-1.5 repair tricks!

  When:  12 Noon to 3PM
  Saturday, September 18

  Where: OLPC Headquarters
  1 Cambridge Center, 10th Floor
  Kendall Square / MIT Red Line Subway Stop
  Cambridge, Massachusetts

  Lunch:  Included *if* you help de-brick at least 2 XOs,
  for use by dedicated OLPC volunteers worldwide:
  http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Contributors_program

  RSVP: ALL WELCOME, families/friends and all ages,
  but you must reply to holt @ laptop . org
  (including your phone number, thanks)

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Aside from our upcoming *Oct 21/22 - 24 San Francisco Community Summit*
(details *imminent* at http://olpcsf.org/CommunitySummit2010 ) you
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OLPC XO-2 -> Acer dual touchscreen

[Carlos Nazareno]

And here we go:

http://www.techreviewsource.com/blog/?p=781

Wonder what kind of support Win7 is using for this, as in how to
customize the keyboard & pop up interface widgets there.

The best part of dual touchscreens is the new kinds of interface
changes and toys you can make...

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Re: USB charging while XOs are switched off

[Paul Fox]

christoph wrote:
 > Hi all,
 > 
 > going through some of my notes from South America I stumbled across a
 > question from a Peruvian teacher who had asked me whether future XOs would
 > allow her to charger her mobile phone while the XO is turned off. Not sure
 > where she had seen that but I think it combination with more and more mobile
 > phones going to towards USB chargers this is actually quite an interesting
 > idea.
 > 
 > Is this a feature that has been considered for the XO-1.75?

if by "off" you really mean "off", then i doubt the USB ports will
have power when the laptop is off.  if by "off" you mean "in suspend",
then i'm sure we'll be considering it.  we were hoping to have USB
powered during suspend on 1.5, but were foiled by poor documentation
of the gpio pins in question.

paul
=-
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USB charging while XOs are switched off

[Christoph Derndorfer]

Hi all,

going through some of my notes from South America I stumbled across a
question from a Peruvian teacher who had asked me whether future XOs would
allow her to charger her mobile phone while the XO is turned off. Not sure
where she had seen that but I think it combination with more and more mobile
phones going to towards USB chargers this is actually quite an interesting
idea.

Is this a feature that has been considered for the XO-1.75?

Cheers,
Christoph

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Re: Calculate-33 request for activities wiki update page

[Gary Martin]

Hi Frederick,

On 13 Sep 2010, at 05:22, Frederick Grose wrote:

> On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 8:49 PM, Gary C Martin  
> wrote:
>> Hi Folks,
>> 
>> Not sure where this email should be going, but now that the 
>> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activities/G1G1 and equivalent update pages are 
>> locked down, could I request the links for Calculate be updated to the 
>> current version?
>> 
> The page is based on Activity page templates that don't seem to be protected 
> from editing.  See  
> http://wiki.laptop.org/index.php?title=Activities/G1G1&action=edit, to view 
> the source for the page.
> 
> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activities/Calculate-G1G1 is unprotected, so 
> responsible parties may keep these up-to-date.

Sorry no luck. If you follow the edit trail the page is locked (for me at 
least, perhaps you are flagged as an admin). Here's the error I see:

""
You do not have permission to edit this page, for the following reason:

This page has been protected from editing, because it is included in the 
following page, which is protected with the "cascading" option turned on:

   • Activities/G1G1/10.1.1
""

I get the same error when I try to edit Moon or Maze. Maybe it's because these 
activities were maintained and tested to work in all shipped builds and didn't 
need to fork out various update pages for releases and deployments? Analyze 
(http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activities/Analyze-G1G1) lets me edit without the 
error, I seem to remember that forked at one point.

Regards,
--Gary

>> 
>> {{Activity-oneline
>> |icon = activity-calculate.svg
>> |activity_name = Calculate
>> |activity_description =  Basic calculator
>> |activity_id = org.laptop.Calculate
>> |activity_bundle = Calculate-33.xo
>> |activity_bundle_url =  
>> http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/downloads/file/27032/calculate-33.xo
>> |activity_bundle_branch =  Calculate (latest)
>> |activity_version = 33
>> }}
>> 
>> If you'd prefer the .xo bundle to be served from wiki.laptop.org let me know 
>> and I can upload (or feel free to upload it yourself). The version 30 
>> currently linked to is rather out of date and I'm seeing bugs filed that 
>> have already long been fixed.
>> 
>> I've tested Calculate-33 on an XO-1 in build 802 (Sugar 0.82), 852 (Sugar 
>> 0.84), 373pyg (Dextrose/Sugar 0.88), and a number of VM based images 
>> including an F13 Sugar 0.88.1, and an F14 Sugar 0.89.3.
>> 
>> Kind Regards,
>> --Gary
>> 
>> P.S. On a more general note activity, I'm not sure of the policy for keeping 
>> the wiki update pages pointing to the latest stable releases. Do we/I need 
>> to go through the current list and raise the newer releases from ASLO that 
>> should be considered/re-tested/updated now that the OLPC 0.84.x based Sugar 
>> build is official?
>> 
> 
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Re: Ubuntu on XO-1.5

[James Cameron]

On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 05:05:44PM +0700, Yang Ha Nguyen wrote:
> No, I have not.  I don't have an XO to try, but according to what you
> have specified:

Ah, right, that's frustrating, because your comment is based on no
evidence of testing, and therefore I can't use it for refining my build.

> >>On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 11:24 PM, James Cameron  wrote:
> >>>The desktop build is GNOME based, is 284 MB compressed, 814 MB
> >>>installed, and is built on a 2 GB partition size.
> >>>
> >>>The minimal build avoids X and contains only text virtual consoles, is
> >>>138 MB compressed, 258 MB installed, and is built on a 512 MB
> >>>partition size.
> 
> I don't think 814 MB (GUI) is considered to be lightweight, especially
> it runs GNOME; JVM or IceVM is much less resource hunger and has faster
> response.  With 256 MB memory of XO-1, Puppy should run quite well
> without even installing into XO's flash memory.

XO-1 is not relevant.  These builds are for XO-1.5, which has 1 GB of
RAM and 4 GB (usually) of microSD.  Given those specs, this build of
mine is far smaller than the Sugar and GNOME build that the unit is
shipped with.

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