Re: [IAEP] !! in 10.1.3, setting languages property clears all activities
Hi Tim, On 28 January 2011 15:36, Timothy Falconer tee...@waveplace.org wrote: sugar-control-panel -s languages Kreyol/Haiti And after restarting, ALL OF THE ACTIVITIES ARE GONE. Can anyone confirm this or give me guidance. How can I set the language in a bash script in 10.1.3? I imagine this is because the language is not included. What version of the software did you last successfully run this on? The languages included in 10.1.x are: en_US,es,ar,pt,pt_BR,fr,ht,mn,mr_IN,am_ET,km_KH,ne_NP,ur_PK,rw,ps,fa_AF,si,zh_CN Reconstructing the image with another language added is as easy as having good bandwith and a Fedora 11 machine available (which is probably very difficult if you are in Haiti). The target XOs must all be unlocked (security disabled). I'd be happy to guide you through the build process if this is an option for you. Daniel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [IAEP] !! in 10.1.3, setting languages property clears all activities
On 30 January 2011 14:10, Yamandu Ploskonka yamap...@gmail.com wrote: Daniel, wouldn't it be simpler that someone who knows how to do it does build that image, uploads it somewhere so Kreyol people can just download the image in one go? Yes, thanks for volunteering ;) However, It still depends on unlocked laptops and enough bandwidth in Haiti to download the end result, so I'm not sure how much this helps Tim. Daniel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [IAEP] !! in 10.1.3, setting languages property clears all activities
daniel wrote: Hi Tim, On 28 January 2011 15:36, Timothy Falconer tee...@waveplace.org wrote: sugar-control-panel -s languages Kreyol/Haiti And after restarting, ALL OF THE ACTIVITIES ARE GONE. Can anyone confirm this or give me guidance. How can I set the language in a bash script in 10.1.3? I imagine this is because the language is not included. What version why would this make the activities disappear? paul of the software did you last successfully run this on? The languages included in 10.1.x are: en_US,es,ar,pt,pt_BR,fr,ht,mn,mr_IN,am_ET,km_KH,ne_NP,ur_PK,rw,ps,fa_AF,si,zh_CN Reconstructing the image with another language added is as easy as having good bandwith and a Fedora 11 machine available (which is probably very difficult if you are in Haiti). The target XOs must all be unlocked (security disabled). I'd be happy to guide you through the build process if this is an option for you. Daniel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel =- paul fox, p...@laptop.org ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [IAEP] !! in 10.1.3, setting languages property clears all activities
On 30 January 2011 14:57, Paul Fox p...@laptop.org wrote: daniel wrote: Hi Tim, On 28 January 2011 15:36, Timothy Falconer tee...@waveplace.org wrote: sugar-control-panel -s languages Kreyol/Haiti And after restarting, ALL OF THE ACTIVITIES ARE GONE. Can anyone confirm this or give me guidance. How can I set the language in a bash script in 10.1.3? I imagine this is because the language is not included. What version why would this make the activities disappear? We have a ticket, which I can't find right now, which shows a case of Python blowing up when the environment selects a locale that doesn't exist on the system. Thats my guess. Daniel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [IAEP] !! in 10.1.3, setting languages property clears all activities
On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 11:58 AM, Yamandu Ploskonka yamap...@gmail.com wrote: thus having an image available might actually save bandwidth - AFAIK Sugar is about half the size of a Fedora download Yes it is smaller, but if Tim in Haiti is very bw-limited, even the smaller thing is too large. Daniel -- looking forward a bit... would it be practical to build an img with a longer list of locales (all the ones we have reasonable support for), and then extract the relevant files in a tarball or similar so that they can be installed (with a script)? Are locales cleanly separated into files / dirs or is there any file that needs to be recompiled? If it's doable, there is a definite use case for auto-installing signed-tarball-with-locale from USB. cheers, m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- Software Architect - OLPC - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [IAEP] !! in 10.1.3, setting languages property clears all activities
Daniel, wouldn't it be simpler that someone who knows how to do it does build that image, uploads it somewhere so Kreyol people can just download the image in one go? otherwise anyone not being part of this particular exchange will need that done again, etc, ? On 01/30/2011 07:44 AM, Daniel Drake wrote: Hi Tim, On 28 January 2011 15:36, Timothy Falconertee...@waveplace.org wrote: sugar-control-panel -s languages Kreyol/Haiti And after restarting, ALL OF THE ACTIVITIES ARE GONE. Can anyone confirm this or give me guidance. How can I set the language in a bash script in 10.1.3? I imagine this is because the language is not included. What version of the software did you last successfully run this on? The languages included in 10.1.x are: en_US,es,ar,pt,pt_BR,fr,ht,mn,mr_IN,am_ET,km_KH,ne_NP,ur_PK,rw,ps,fa_AF,si,zh_CN Reconstructing the image with another language added is as easy as having good bandwith and a Fedora 11 machine available (which is probably very difficult if you are in Haiti). The target XOs must all be unlocked (security disabled). I'd be happy to guide you through the build process if this is an option for you. Daniel ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) i...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [IAEP] !! in 10.1.3, setting languages property clears all activities
I'm sorry to continue this as if I knew what I am talking about, ;-), but, having to do a recompile or whatever it is named based on Fedora would require them to download Fedora, yes? So a solution based on them downloading Fedora and then fondling it to shape would also require bandwidth? yes? thus having an image available might actually save bandwidth - AFAIK Sugar is about half the size of a Fedora download, and once downloaded can be copied locally - copying they need either way. Anyway, hopefully I've proved I do not know enough about this to be the one doing it... On 01/30/2011 08:54 AM, Daniel Drake wrote: On 30 January 2011 14:10, Yamandu Ploskonkayamap...@gmail.com wrote: Daniel, wouldn't it be simpler that someone who knows how to do it does build that image, uploads it somewhere so Kreyol people can just download the image in one go? Yes, thanks for volunteering ;) However, It still depends on unlocked laptops and enough bandwidth in Haiti to download the end result, so I'm not sure how much this helps Tim. Daniel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [IAEP] !! in 10.1.3, setting languages property clears all activities
would then Fedora be less of a BW problem? help me, I feel stooopid. It seems to me Fedora would be more of a problem from the point of view of bw, but y'all seem to see that as, not a problem - for Fedora, yes a problem - for Sugar (which is smaller) ??? Of course, just like Br'er Rabbit, I couldn't find my way out of a paperbag tarball. Y'all know better, but I don't get this. sorry for wasting your time, since actually here I can't help - I just would wish I understood what the big kids are playing... (though what you suggest, if I understand /that/, seems to make sense - have the localizations be a sort of small plug-in to Sugar, obviously smaller than the thing itself) On 01/30/2011 02:29 PM, Martin Langhoff wrote: On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 11:58 AM, Yamandu Ploskonkayamap...@gmail.com wrote: thus having an image available might actually save bandwidth - AFAIK Sugar is about half the size of a Fedora download Yes it is smaller, but if Tim in Haiti is very bw-limited, even the smaller thing is too large. Daniel -- looking forward a bit... would it be practical to build an img with a longer list of locales (all the ones we have reasonable support for), and then extract the relevant files in a tarball or similar so that they can be installed (with a script)? Are locales cleanly separated into files / dirs or is there any file that needs to be recompiled? If it's doable, there is a definite use case for auto-installing signed-tarball-with-locale from USB. cheers, m ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [IAEP] !! in 10.1.3, setting languages property clears all activities
Hi Timothy, so the issue you are seeing is twofold: a) the command you are using sugar-control-panel -s language Kreyol/Haiti will write a faulty locale. Can be seen in /home/olpc/.i18n That is why your activity icons are gone. It should be something similar to this: LANG=ht_HT.utf8 LANGUAGE=ht_HT.utf8 b) The Haiti translations are not included in the build (this has been due to space constraints). The quickest solution would be to build a new image - as Daniel stated if we do it here you would have to download it. I am building a new image at the moment to get you one option - I will let you know how it goes. Regards, Simon___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
