New F13-arm build os9
http://build.laptop.org/F13-arm/os9/ Changelog: * Update to the F13 beta3 release; GNOME and Sugar both included. * Move up to our latest 2.6.39 kernel. - Rebased on top of 2.6.39 - Reboot now actually works (with recent EC code) - Minutes-long freeze should be gone (#10945) - Camera driver -- initial version by Jon Corbet (modprobe mmp_camera) - RTC now works - Accelerometer is enabled - see #10828 for how to use/test * Includes olpc-runin-tests, and its dependencies - memtester and wireless-tools are available * Defaults to English language because we don't have an F13 olpc-utils yet. To install: ok fs-update ext:\os9.zd cheers, m -- mar...@laptop.org -- Software Architect - OLPC - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
NOW: OLPC Contributors Program Mtg (on #olpc-meeting, Fri June 10, 2:45PM EDT)
Please join us now, voting for the latest OLPC/Sugar community projects over IRC Live Chat, to make the best project allocations mentoring relationships--starting right here: http://forum.laptop.org/chat Then type at bottom: /join #olpc-meeting AGENDA: * Fast Review of the 7 latest (greatest!) HW/Project Proposals. Plz join us advocating for reviewing shortcomings of these proposals: 1. OLPC Training, Math and Secondary Students, Peace Corps Masters Intl - Calif State Univ Northridge 2. OLPC Tanzania Rural Cancer Prevention Initiative - Dallas, TX 3. GPS navigator for bicycle (with modified charger for bicycle) - Beijing, China 4. Marysville Rotary Literacy XO Repair Facility - Guatemala Marysville, WA 5. SWAG for Upcoming LUG Meeting - Los Angeles, CA 6. Turning Slumdogs into Millionaires/Vocational Skills Transfer - Kolkata, India 7. OLPC Paktika, with Paiwastoon - Afghanistan * Which projects might you enjoy Mentoring below?! http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Projects http://rt.laptop.org/Search/Results.html?Query=Queue=%27contributors%27 * New projects libraries -- teaching them Community Outreach: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XO_Laptop_Lending_Libraries 1. OLPC Training, Math and Secondary Students - Peace Corps Masters Intl, Calif State Univ Northridge http://rt.laptop.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=81518 http://www.csun.edu/~vcmth014/peacecorps/PCMI_10_2010.html SPECIFIC SITE NEEDS TO BE POSTED OFF http://olpcMAP.net http://j.mp/6UhCtd Requests 10 XOs over 36 months Project Objectives: California State University, Northridge (CSUN) requests 10 OLPC computers for instruction of Math and Secondary Education CSUN Peace Corps Master's International students. CSUN students will learn to use existing educational software and develop new projects appropriate for middle and high school level students. We will also teach CSUN students use to some tools developed by CSUN faculty for Mathematics. 2. OLPC Tanzania Rural Cancer Prevention Initiative - Dallas, TX http://rt.laptop.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=81646 SPECIFIC SITE NEEDS TO BE POSTED OFF http://olpcMAP.net http://j.mp/6UhCtd Requests 4 XOs and 12 months Project Objectives: The Healthnovations International-UT Dallas Chapter aims to utilize the OLPC laptops in order to establish a thorough curriculum to promote cancer awareness to the Tanzanian community. The goal of the project is to empower pediatric cancer victims in the region to access information about the causes and consequences of the disease and to assist their communities in combating pediatric cancer with access to primary healthcare, education, counseling, emotional support, and medical care. 3. GPS navigator for bicycle (with modified charger for bicycle) - Beijing, China http://rt.laptop.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=81836 SPECIFIC SITE NEEDS TO BE POSTED OFF http://olpcMAP.net http://j.mp/6UhCtd Requests 1 XOs over 9 months Project Objectives: 1. Since I will be a volunteer to teach some students in Qinghai Province(a very poor province of china) late July, if I can get one before July, I can take it to these children to find out how favor do them like this , and what do they want and so on. 2. Help with some translate projects although my english is also very poor... 3. Since the olpc 1.75 works only 2W, so we can use the hand-shake charger to charge it for all the use. But it will do us a favor if we can charge the battery while riding bicycles! 4. With a usb gps receiver connected to our olpc laptop , and bind it to the bicycle , we can use it as a good navigator. We can develop a program using google map api, providing some history and culture information arround where you are, and you can also select anywhere to learn something about the place you select. I think I can develop it using Qt. 4. Marysville Rotary Literacy XO Repair Facility - Guatemala Marysville, WA http://rt.laptop.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=82243 http://www.clubrunner.ca/Portal/SitePages/SitePage.aspx?cid=275 SPECIFIC SITE NEEDS TO BE POSTED OFF http://olpcMAP.net http://j.mp/6UhCtd Requests 10-15 brickes XOs over undetermined months Project Objectives: This is a project that is being lead and developed by High School students with supervision from adult school staff and with the support of outside community computer professionals. Students will learn technology troubleshooting skills, which will be used during the project. Skills include but are not limited to: using a multi-meter, oscilloscope, audio equipment and soldering equipment. Also students will create a working business model on the proper manner of receiving, processing, repairing, packaging and shipping of the XO systems. 5. SWAG for Upcoming LUG Meeting - Los Angeles, CA http://rt.laptop.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=82585 SPECIFIC
Re: [IAEP] Turtles All The Way Out
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 8:11 PM, John Gilmore g...@toad.com wrote: Don Hopkins worked on a PostScript-based window system (HyperLook) that would let you flip over an object on the screen to see behind it a control panel with the guts of its implementation visible. You could modify those, then flip it back and it would resume running. See: http://www.art.net/~hopkins/Don/hyperlook/index.html and http://www.art.net/~hopkins/Don/simcity/hyperlook-demo.html . Self: The Movie is also worth watching. The self guys thought that continuous execution of the code was important for liveness, along with some other views (like direct correspondence between objects and representation) which I don't think I actually agree with. But still, worth thinking about: http://www.smalltalk.org.br/movies/ --scott -- ( http://cscott.net ) ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Server-devel] [OLPC-AU] OLPC Australia XS concerns
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 1:54 AM, Sridhar Dhanapalan srid...@laptop.org.au wrote: I think my biggest technical concerns in XS-land are twofold: * we need the XS to behave well on an *existing* network (i.e. single interface), without trying to be a gateway or duplicating core network services (DNS, DHCP, etc.) * while other XS efforts are keen to add features, we want to be as trim as possible We started the XS-AU when it had become clear that XS development had slowed. We could find no alternative that satisfied our needs, and I felt it better to go our own way rather than complaining that the XS didn't meet our particular use case (which seems to be quite different from other deployments). It's been working very well, and it's quite low-maintenance for us. We'll need a good reason to jump ship. We've been working on a prototype XS Lite, which is essentially an XS-AU with everything except ejabberd stripped away. Our deployments are done at the classroom-level; a teacher receives XOs for the children in their class once they have completed the necessary training. We would like to provide a simple server with that allocation of XOs. This means that the server needs to be low-cost and easy to implement (plug-and-play). We are assuming that there is *no* technical expertise available at the school. The server doesn't have to be very capable. Anything that requires registration won't work for us as the turnover of teachers and students is too high. We don't need Moodle or anything similar, since such services are already provided on the state education network. Since it's based on the XS-AU, it can be 'upgraded' to a full XS with some yum commands. Given the modest requirements, I think an XO would be suitable hardware. They are cheap and reliable, and we already have them in stock. As a standalone collaboration server, the XO's WLAN can be the AP. If we need to connect to the school network, we can use a USB2Ethernet adapter. This will also allow the server to leverage the other APs in the school. What's important is that we need to be tolerant of multiple schoolservers on the network, potentially one per class. To be honest I think your actually going about it all wrong. XS is designed to be a do it all server for people that don't want to think. If you only want a jabber server (or certain components) I think you'd be much better off just using CentOS and installing ejabberd. Why start big and remove everything when its easier just to start with a base server and add one thing? You could even create a virtual appliance to plug into any virtual infra that the school might have, boot it off a USB key or what ever. Peter ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] [Sugar-devel] Sugar Server project initiation announce
On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 1:51 PM, Aleksey Lim alsr...@activitycentral.org wrote: In fact, the project started three weeks ago but for now some of its core purposes became more clear, ie, ready for announcing. You guys are *weird*. I've been hearing from AC for a while that you'd help with XS, in private, and in grandiloquent public posts. I never received a single patch, rpm, or anything usable. Recently, Aleksey has been hacking on XS things, and that's excellent. And I apologize for not being more available -- I am working against some very tight and non-negotiable deadlines on the XO-1.75 project. Other times I have made myself available aplenty (with David van Assche for example). From Aleksey's efforts, I was expecting some patches, updated spec files, some reason to be happy. Instead, you announce that you fork or start from scratch (unclear to me which). There aren't major technical disagreements, or social disagreements -- at most you could complain that I've been a bit MIA for the last couple weeks. And you fork after a long long track record of promises -- in private and in public -- of working on the XS. Promises that were never followed up -- plenty of cookie licking if you want. Did anything ever happen with the plans announced at https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-sugarteam/2010-October/002451.html ? You also announce this as a 'Sugar project' -- are those discussed with the board? If so... is there a 'check with current maintainer'? Or people make them up at will? Beyond my irritation, I hope this one goes well, and leads somewhere. The XS needs love. A fork for the fun of it isn't exactly love but hey. m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- Software Architect - OLPC - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] [Sugar-devel] Sugar Server project initiation announce
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 01:08:35PM -0400, Martin Langhoff wrote: On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 1:51 PM, Aleksey Lim alsr...@activitycentral.org wrote: In fact, the project started three weeks ago but for now some of its core purposes became more clear, ie, ready for announcing. You guys are *weird*. I've been hearing from AC for a while that you'd help with XS, in private, and in grandiloquent public posts. I never received a single patch, rpm, or anything usable. Recently, Aleksey has been hacking on XS things, and that's excellent. And I apologize for not being more available -- I am working against some very tight and non-negotiable deadlines on the XO-1.75 project. Other times I have made myself available aplenty (with David van Assche for example). From Aleksey's efforts, I was expecting some patches, updated spec files, some reason to be happy. Instead, you announce that you fork or start from scratch (unclear to me which). There aren't major technical disagreements, or social disagreements -- at most you could complain that I've been a bit MIA for the last couple weeks. And you fork after a long long track record of promises -- in private and in public -- of working on the XS. Promises that were never followed up -- plenty of cookie licking if you want. Did anything ever happen with the plans announced at https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-sugarteam/2010-October/002451.html ? You also announce this as a 'Sugar project' -- are those discussed with the board? If so... is there a 'check with current maintainer'? Or people make them up at will? It is a project started by one of SL contributors, the Sugar reflects on the core idea that make this new project different to the existed one, i.e., having explicit separation between upstream project and downstream solutions (based on Sugar Server and made on purposes according the the local needs). Thus, it is Sugar Server. It was the idea from beginning and I apologise if you got it wrong. Also, preventing another misunderstanding, it is not an AC project (there will be AC's Dextrose Server based on Sugar Server) but a project whithin SL (as I did for all my previous work). Beyond my irritation, I hope this one goes well, and leads somewhere. The XS needs love. A fork for the fun of it isn't exactly love but hey. m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- Software Architect - OLPC - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff -- Aleksey ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] OLPC Australia XS concerns
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 11:16 AM, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote: the XO's WLAN can be the AP Note that running hostap is not a trivial endeavour. Unless something's changed recently since the last time I looked, the XO's wifi chip doesn't support hostapd. The best I've been able to kludge together (back when I used the XO as a portable XS to tote to training sessions) was a USB-Ethernet adapter on eth1 connected to an old Linksys AP. If wifi was available, the XO's WLAN worked as eth0. Anna Schoolfield Birmingham ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] OLPC Australia XS concerns
Good Day, I recently received an OLPC school server. When I booted it, I got the error: Disk Boot Failure, Insert System Disk and Press Enter Could anyone assist me with this issue? Thanks in advance, Brian Hall From: server-devel-boun...@lists.laptop.org [mailto:server-devel-boun...@lists.laptop.org] On Behalf Of Anna Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 4:54 PM To: Martin Langhoff Cc: Sridhar Dhanapalan; XS Devel Subject: Re: [Server-devel] OLPC Australia XS concerns On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 11:16 AM, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.commailto:martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote: the XO's WLAN can be the AP Note that running hostap is not a trivial endeavour. Unless something's changed recently since the last time I looked, the XO's wifi chip doesn't support hostapd. The best I've been able to kludge together (back when I used the XO as a portable XS to tote to training sessions) was a USB-Ethernet adapter on eth1 connected to an old Linksys AP. If wifi was available, the XO's WLAN worked as eth0. Anna Schoolfield Birmingham No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.comhttp://www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1382 / Virus Database: 1513/3692 - Release Date: 06/10/11 ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] OLPC Australia XS concerns
Hi Brian, that doesn't sound pretty. Who did you receive the server from? What deployment are you part of? The server -- can boot from USB or from a CD? Perhaps you can boot from a linux live CD or live USB to diagnose? cheers, m On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 5:00 PM, HALL,Brian C brian.hal...@uwimona.edu.jm wrote: Good Day, I recently received an OLPC school server. When I booted it, I got the error: “Disk Boot Failure, Insert System Disk and Press Enter” Could anyone assist me with this issue? Thanks in advance, Brian Hall From: server-devel-boun...@lists.laptop.org [mailto:server-devel-boun...@lists.laptop.org] On Behalf Of Anna Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 4:54 PM To: Martin Langhoff Cc: Sridhar Dhanapalan; XS Devel Subject: Re: [Server-devel] OLPC Australia XS concerns On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 11:16 AM, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote: the XO's WLAN can be the AP Note that running hostap is not a trivial endeavour. Unless something's changed recently since the last time I looked, the XO's wifi chip doesn't support hostapd. The best I've been able to kludge together (back when I used the XO as a portable XS to tote to training sessions) was a USB-Ethernet adapter on eth1 connected to an old Linksys AP. If wifi was available, the XO's WLAN worked as eth0. Anna Schoolfield Birmingham No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1382 / Virus Database: 1513/3692 - Release Date: 06/10/11 -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- Software Architect - OLPC - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] [Dextrose] [Sugar-devel] Sugar Server project initiation announce
-Original Message- From: dextrose-boun...@lists.sugarlabs.org [mailto:dextrose- boun...@lists.sugarlabs.org] On Behalf Of Martin Langhoff Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 1:09 PM To: Aleksey Lim Cc: server-devel@lists.laptop.org; sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org; olpc- a...@lists.laptop.org; dextr...@lists.sugarlabs.org Subject: Re: [Dextrose] [Sugar-devel] Sugar Server project initiation announce On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 1:51 PM, Aleksey Lim alsr...@activitycentral.org wrote: In fact, the project started three weeks ago but for now some of its core purposes became more clear, i.e., ready for announcing. You guys are *weird*. And you fork after a long track record of promises -- in private and in public - - of working on the XS. Promises that were never followed up -- plenty of cookie licking if you want. Did anything ever happen with the plans announced at https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-sugarteam/2010- October/002451.html You are 100% correct in these criticisms and concerns about Activity Central. We are a new company working in a new market. Failures and mistakes are inevitable. If you have been hurt by those mistakes, I apologize and accept full responsibility for them. As a company and as a member of the ecosystem we are going to make mistakes. In a proprietary company these failures happen safely behind closed doors in the RD department. In a company that participates openly in an community project these failures will happen publicly -- often painfully so. That is just the nature of the business. There is a very good chance that for each Dextrose there will be 10 Ubuntu Sugar Remixes. david ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] [Dextrose] [Sugar-devel] Sugar Server project initiation announce
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 10:44 PM, David Farning dfarn...@activitycentral.com wrote: You are 100% correct in these criticisms and concerns about Activity Central. We are a new company working in a new market. Failures and mistakes are inevitable. If you have been hurt by those mistakes, I apologize and accept full responsibility for them. Hi David! Look -- thanks for being so frank and open. Past it the past, and I've made mistakes aplenty myself. What I was trying to say was: you seem to be doing the same thing again. Like now. I mean -- today. How 'bout taking a slightly different tack? You just posted last week about cookie licking, which if you think about it... that perhaps applies to those big Ubuntu announcements last year for example. Perhaps could apply to this server thing -- we don't know yet. As I said, I frankly hope I am wrong. Anyway -- of course there may be business reasons for your forking. Happens. It's just that on the working with the existing project, the score isn't looking too good. I mean -- Aleksey subscribed to the xs-devel list, and his first message there was the opener of this thread. Classic. m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- Software Architect - OLPC - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with big announcements - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
