Re: XO-1 touchpad once more [Devel Digest, Vol 64, Issue 28]

2011-06-14 Thread Paul Fox
yioryos wrote:
   Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 09:45:08 +1000
   From: James Cameron qu...@laptop.org
   Subject: Re: XO-1 touchpad once more
   Well, we certainly seem to have reduced the frequency of the
   problem overall, even if a few people who never had the problem
   now have it.
   ;-)
   
   It's the overall frequency that matters.
   
  
  I do not know why you say we certainly seem to have reduced the frequency 
  of 
  the problem overall but here is some numbers to compare.

james' statement surprised me a bit, too, since i'm not sure that
we have data to back that up.  but regardless...

  
  I'm not using my XO-1s as much lately, since the XO-1.5 is much
  more pleasant to use :-) but still managed to gather touchpad
  events through several hours of use from my 2 XO-1s.
  
  One is running os860 while the other different OLPC 11.2.0
  development builds.  Both are also running Puppy linux from an
  SDcard.  The data record re-calibration events and in most cases
  CPU load and memory use, in 5 or 7 minutes intervals. 
  
  When running puppylinux there are also some logs where the touchpad
  is powered cycled in 5 or 7 minutes intervals during a sudo
  anti-RSI step that appears to improve touchpad behavior [1].
  
  Unfortunately the data are not processed in any meaningful way but
  the frequency and the extend of the events is evident.  Maybe it

i guess i don't see it.  just skimming your logs, i'm not having
trends jump out at me.  but as you say, that's not really fair without
having the data plotted in some meaningful way.  perhaps someone
listening with good data visualization skills could help us out here?

paul

  could be compared with F7/F9 data if available.
  
  [1] http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=513017#513017
  

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Current oob - any clear F13 incompat?

2011-06-14 Thread Martin Langhoff
Hi Daniel, Chris,

looking at current olpc-os-builder, is there any gotchas you're aware
of to build F-13 based images?

The F-14 rebuild is taking a bit longer than expected, and I am fairly
advanced in cleaning up the hacks we needed earlier to get builds for
F-13/ARM.

cheers,


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Re:XO-1 touchpad once more [Devel Digest, Vol 64, Issue 30]

2011-06-14 Thread Yioryos Asprobounitis

 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 09:05:46 -0400
 From: Paul Fox p...@laptop.org
 Subject: Re: XO-1 touchpad once more [Devel Digest, Vol 64,
 Issue 28]
   One is running os860 while the other different OLPC
 11.2.0
   development builds.  Both are also running Puppy
 linux from an
   SDcard.  The data record re-calibration events
 and in most cases
   CPU load and memory use, in 5 or 7 minutes intervals.
 
   
   When running puppylinux there are also some logs
 where the touchpad
   is powered cycled in 5 or 7 minutes intervals during
 a sudo
   anti-RSI step that appears to improve touchpad
 behavior [1].
   
   Unfortunately the data are not processed in any
 meaningful way but
   the frequency and the extend of the events is
 evident.  Maybe it
 
 i guess i don't see it.  just skimming your logs, i'm
 not having
 trends jump out at me.  

The sense of improvement is still mostly subjective from my experience as a 
user. 
Actually interpreting the data is a bit tricky because there is no good way to 
detect user activity. 
CPU load is a good indicator of *total* inactivity but a lot of times the XO 
may be downloading a new build or olpc-update with no user input or just used 
for reading with minimal touchpad input (at least in my case).
In other instances when there is intense touchpad use, it may go nuts in under 
a minute of use.
 
If there was a way to monitor overall touchpad use, the results would be much 
more relevant. 
In the current form they are only good for extensive time chunks that should 
even out use variations, and in a comparative rather than absolute manner.
So there are not really to quantify touchpad misbehavior is absolute terms but 
rather to illustrate the problem. 

 
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Re: XO-1 touchpad once more [Devel Digest, Vol 64, Issue 28]

2011-06-14 Thread James Cameron
On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 12:35:52AM -0700, Yioryos Asprobounitis wrote:
 I do not know why you say we certainly seem to have reduced the
 frequency of the problem overall but here is some numbers to compare.

The overall frequency of reports of the problem.  Not the frequency on
your laptop.

But that could also represent a smaller community.

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Re: OOB - can we teach imgcreator about our arm arch?

2011-06-14 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 6:39 PM, Jon Nettleton jon.nettle...@gmail.com wrote:
 Anyway we can get around this by have the Image Builder call setarch?

https://fedorahosted.org/setarch/browser/setarch.c

setarch is royally busted on ARM.



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