Re: Air Jaldi wifi and summits

2011-06-30 Thread mokurai
On Mon, June 27, 2011 6:11 am, Samuel Klein wrote:
> Air Jaldi seems to maintain one of the larger rural wifi neworks, in
> the Indian mountains.
>
> Has anyone heard of people who have attended one of their summits?

Yes, OneVillage Foundation is strongly interested and some of their
people, including Joy Tang, the founder, have attended a summit. I also
know Tim Pozar of BAWUG (Bay Area Wireless User Group). Clif Cox of SFNET
designed a wireless system implemented across Bhutan to provide e-mail
service to valleys with no roads coming in. I could also put you in touch
with the NGO that provided wireless service to Fantsuam Foundation in
Nigeria, including its IT school. They replaced a satellite connection
that reportedly cost more than $1700 a month.

The OLPC program requires that somebody solve the general problem of
wireless broadband to the village for every inhabited terrain and climate,
and likewise renewable electric power. The phone companies have gotten the
idea of providing cell service to villages, but not Internet, except in
OLPC partner countries such as Uruguay and Rwanda.

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AirJaldi
> http://drupal.airjaldi.com/node/86
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Re: Content Proposal, Universal Declaration of Human Rights

2011-06-30 Thread Chris Leonard
I've been downloading to get materials locally (size estimates, etc.).
 One thought that occurs to me is to leverage the "Region" field they
display on the website to create a handful of bundles (say 5-7
variants).  See attached spreadsheet.  This overcomes individual
language tracking and puts a grouping of indigenous languages together
by region (e.g. numerous African and South American indigenous
languages shared across national boundaries).  A small handful of
bundles would be easier to manage manually in the build process.  All
bundles could be sent to school server where available.  The only
overhead it should add would be the concept of creating  an index page
with links to each individual language, simple enough HTML to build as
long as local storage directory is predictable.

cjl

On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 12:00 AM, Gonzalo Odiard  wrote:
> +100
>
> I like the idea of include the UDHR and the idea of a e-Rosetta.
> The size is not a problem, I have tried with spanish:
> The pdf size is 186K, the html is 38K, but we can clean it and have a html
> version of 14K (ziped is 5K)
> We can start with a content bundle (.xol)
>
> We can do a better job with the content bundles we include.
> Almost all are from Wikibooks Junior http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Wikijunior
> but we continue including the same books from may be 2007.
>
> Gonzalo
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 7:41 PM, Chris Leonard 
> wrote:
>>
>> Dear OLPC developers,
>>
>> I would like to propose including the United Nation's Universal
>> Declaration of Human Rights (UDHR) in the content bundles provided in
>> the 11.2.0 libraries.
>>
>> http://www.un.org/en/documents/udhr/index.shtml
>>
>> It is translated into over 400 languages (found here)
>>
>> http://www.ohchr.org/EN/UDHR/Pages/SearchByLang.aspx
>>
>> Many deployments are apparently interested in English language
>> instruction and I believe that distributing English and local language
>> copies of the UDHR together not only provides an opportunity for a
>> "Rosetta Stone" type pairing of texts, but it might also serve as a
>> launching point for discussions in civics or social studies classes.
>>
>> I have sent an e-mail to the Secretary of the Publication Board,
>> United Nations to specifically ask about any restrictions they might
>> impose on electronic redistribution of the UDHR text and translations
>> downloaded from their site.  However, given the following quote from
>> the UHDR website, the intended use seems entirely consistent with the
>> intent of the UN in publishing the UHDR.
>>
>> "On December 10, 1948 the General Assembly of the United Nations
>> adopted and proclaimed the Universal Declaration of Human Rights the
>> full text of which appears in the following pages. Following this
>> historic act the Assembly called upon all Member countries to
>> publicize the text of the Declaration and "to cause it to be
>> disseminated, displayed, read and expounded principally in schools and
>> other educational institutions, without distinction based on the
>> political status of countries or territories."
>>
>> Article 26 is of particular relevance to OLPC's efforts.
>>
>> Assuming there is consensus on pedagogical value and a clear answer on
>> the copyright status of the UDHR, the remaining question is how to go
>> about packaging this content for OLPC distributions.  The material
>> downloads primarily as PDF files.  I haven't checked them all, but
>> some are text selectable "composited" PDFs, some may be scanned image
>> PDFs, and a few are possibly available as HTML.
>>
>> I would like to do as little rework as possible on packaging these (in
>> part to get them ready in time for the 11.2.0 release), so I am
>> inclined to stick with the 8 page PDF as downloaded. One possibility
>> would be to include all of the languages, but this seems wasteful of
>> precious space.
>>
>> I am not aware of any storage structure currently available for
>> content management by language in the way that Pootle handles strings
>> and the individual languages in the /po directory in git.  I'm unsure
>> of how this could be managed with the build process to pick up the
>> appropriate localized version of the UDHR.
>>
>> Let's be clear that I am not really a developer, so I would be happy
>> to see someone take this idea and run with it. I am more than willing
>> to collaborate with anyone on bringing this to fruition, but I
>> probably can't pull it off all by myself without some assistance (at
>> least advice and feedback on appropriate technical issues).
>>
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Re: Content Proposal, Universal Declaration of Human Rights

2011-06-30 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
+100

I like the idea of include the UDHR and the idea of a e-Rosetta.
The size is not a problem, I have tried with spanish:
The pdf size is 186K, the html is 38K, but we can clean it and have a html
version of 14K (ziped is 5K)
We can start with a content bundle (.xol)

We can do a better job with the content bundles we include.
Almost all are from Wikibooks Junior http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Wikijunior
but we continue including the same books from may be 2007.

Gonzalo


On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 7:41 PM, Chris Leonard wrote:

> Dear OLPC developers,
>
> I would like to propose including the United Nation's Universal
> Declaration of Human Rights (UDHR) in the content bundles provided in
> the 11.2.0 libraries.
>
> http://www.un.org/en/documents/udhr/index.shtml
>
> It is translated into over 400 languages (found here)
>
> http://www.ohchr.org/EN/UDHR/Pages/SearchByLang.aspx
>
> Many deployments are apparently interested in English language
> instruction and I believe that distributing English and local language
> copies of the UDHR together not only provides an opportunity for a
> "Rosetta Stone" type pairing of texts, but it might also serve as a
> launching point for discussions in civics or social studies classes.
>
> I have sent an e-mail to the Secretary of the Publication Board,
> United Nations to specifically ask about any restrictions they might
> impose on electronic redistribution of the UDHR text and translations
> downloaded from their site.  However, given the following quote from
> the UHDR website, the intended use seems entirely consistent with the
> intent of the UN in publishing the UHDR.
>
> "On December 10, 1948 the General Assembly of the United Nations
> adopted and proclaimed the Universal Declaration of Human Rights the
> full text of which appears in the following pages. Following this
> historic act the Assembly called upon all Member countries to
> publicize the text of the Declaration and "to cause it to be
> disseminated, displayed, read and expounded principally in schools and
> other educational institutions, without distinction based on the
> political status of countries or territories."
>
> Article 26 is of particular relevance to OLPC's efforts.
>
> Assuming there is consensus on pedagogical value and a clear answer on
> the copyright status of the UDHR, the remaining question is how to go
> about packaging this content for OLPC distributions.  The material
> downloads primarily as PDF files.  I haven't checked them all, but
> some are text selectable "composited" PDFs, some may be scanned image
> PDFs, and a few are possibly available as HTML.
>
> I would like to do as little rework as possible on packaging these (in
> part to get them ready in time for the 11.2.0 release), so I am
> inclined to stick with the 8 page PDF as downloaded. One possibility
> would be to include all of the languages, but this seems wasteful of
> precious space.
>
> I am not aware of any storage structure currently available for
> content management by language in the way that Pootle handles strings
> and the individual languages in the /po directory in git.  I'm unsure
> of how this could be managed with the build process to pick up the
> appropriate localized version of the UDHR.
>
> Let's be clear that I am not really a developer, so I would be happy
> to see someone take this idea and run with it. I am more than willing
> to collaborate with anyone on bringing this to fruition, but I
> probably can't pull it off all by myself without some assistance (at
> least advice and feedback on appropriate technical issues).
>
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Re: OLPC-AU

2011-06-30 Thread Sridhar Dhanapalan
The release notes, including links to the changes, is online at
https://dev.laptop.org.au/projects/xo-au/wiki/1013-au3_release_notes

Some things that have changed (with their issues numbers in our
system) that we need testing are:

  * flashing is faster with our sparse build [#594]
  * Browse activity [#654]
  * Speak activity with english_rp voice [#718]
  * Screencast activity [#692]
  * gnome-screenshot in GNOME [#563]
  * gtk-recordmysesktop in GNOME [#564]
  * camorama in GNOME [#558]
  * Firefox now loads with the OLPC Library as the home page [#555]


Thanks,
Sridhar


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On 1 July 2011 08:43, Jerry Vonau  wrote:
> Hi All:
>
> This is to announce that we may have a Release Candidate with the latest
> OLPC-AU build for the XO-1.5 featuring sparse file support[1], is now
> available for testing[2]. This build has q3a65 firmware in the payload,
> so you might get an upgrade if your firmware is not up to that level.
> The upload is in progress, please be patient.
>
> Thanks for testing,
>
> Jerry
>
> [1]http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Quozl/fs-update-skip-unused-blocks
> [2]http://build.laptop.org.au/xo/10.1.3/xo-1.5/RC1
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OLPC-AU

2011-06-30 Thread Jerry Vonau
Hi All:

This is to announce that we may have a Release Candidate with the latest
OLPC-AU build for the XO-1.5 featuring sparse file support[1], is now
available for testing[2]. This build has q3a65 firmware in the payload,
so you might get an upgrade if your firmware is not up to that level.
The upload is in progress, please be patient.

Thanks for testing,

Jerry 

[1]http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Quozl/fs-update-skip-unused-blocks
[2]http://build.laptop.org.au/xo/10.1.3/xo-1.5/RC1



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Content Proposal, Universal Declaration of Human Rights

2011-06-30 Thread Chris Leonard
Dear OLPC developers,

I would like to propose including the United Nation's Universal
Declaration of Human Rights (UDHR) in the content bundles provided in
the 11.2.0 libraries.

http://www.un.org/en/documents/udhr/index.shtml

It is translated into over 400 languages (found here)

http://www.ohchr.org/EN/UDHR/Pages/SearchByLang.aspx

Many deployments are apparently interested in English language
instruction and I believe that distributing English and local language
copies of the UDHR together not only provides an opportunity for a
"Rosetta Stone" type pairing of texts, but it might also serve as a
launching point for discussions in civics or social studies classes.

I have sent an e-mail to the Secretary of the Publication Board,
United Nations to specifically ask about any restrictions they might
impose on electronic redistribution of the UDHR text and translations
downloaded from their site.  However, given the following quote from
the UHDR website, the intended use seems entirely consistent with the
intent of the UN in publishing the UHDR.

"On December 10, 1948 the General Assembly of the United Nations
adopted and proclaimed the Universal Declaration of Human Rights the
full text of which appears in the following pages. Following this
historic act the Assembly called upon all Member countries to
publicize the text of the Declaration and "to cause it to be
disseminated, displayed, read and expounded principally in schools and
other educational institutions, without distinction based on the
political status of countries or territories."

Article 26 is of particular relevance to OLPC's efforts.

Assuming there is consensus on pedagogical value and a clear answer on
the copyright status of the UDHR, the remaining question is how to go
about packaging this content for OLPC distributions.  The material
downloads primarily as PDF files.  I haven't checked them all, but
some are text selectable "composited" PDFs, some may be scanned image
PDFs, and a few are possibly available as HTML.

I would like to do as little rework as possible on packaging these (in
part to get them ready in time for the 11.2.0 release), so I am
inclined to stick with the 8 page PDF as downloaded. One possibility
would be to include all of the languages, but this seems wasteful of
precious space.

I am not aware of any storage structure currently available for
content management by language in the way that Pootle handles strings
and the individual languages in the /po directory in git.  I'm unsure
of how this could be managed with the build process to pick up the
appropriate localized version of the UDHR.

Let's be clear that I am not really a developer, so I would be happy
to see someone take this idea and run with it. I am more than willing
to collaborate with anyone on bringing this to fruition, but I
probably can't pull it off all by myself without some assistance (at
least advice and feedback on appropriate technical issues).

cjl
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New F13-arm build os18

2011-06-30 Thread Martin Langhoff
The "scatter/gather for the Marvell Camera, and olpc battery reading
support" build.

Donwload from:

  http://build.laptop.org/F13-arm/os18/

OFW: Best served with a chilled OFW Q4B00.

Kernel changelog:

Jonathan Corbet (2):
  marvell-cam: Working s/g DMA
  marvell-cam: use S/G DMA by default

Martin Langhoff (1):
  xo_175_defconfig: CONFIG_BATTERY_OLPC=y



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Re: [OLPC Engineering] [Techteam] New F13-arm build os17

2011-06-30 Thread Paul Fox
martin wrote:
 > 
 > Hmmm. Upon review, it seems like it's missing CONFIG_OLPC_BATTERY so
 > os18 is on its way.

sorry -- i should have updated the defconfig along with my commits.

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New F13-arm build os17

2011-06-30 Thread Martin Langhoff
The "keyboard and touchpad input switch from EC to SP, battery reading" build.

Donwload from:

   http://build.laptop.org/F13-arm/os17/

OFW: Best served with a chilled OFW Q4B00.

Changes:

 * Kernel updated -- see shortlog

 * Browse v123

Kernel -- shortlog:

Jonathan Corbet (1):
  marvell-cam: implement contiguous DMA operation

Lennert Buytenhek (1):
  mmp2-pcm: DMA source addresses need to be 4-byte aligned.

Martin Langhoff (14):
  xo_175_defconfig: enable videobuf2 options, keep SERIO_OLPC off (for now)
  xo_175_defconfig: OLPC_SERIO=y and POWER_SUPPLY=y
  olpc: Automagically crosscompile

Paul Fox (8):
  add olpc_ec_cmd(), to support older code that expects it
  add complete list of EC commands and events
  fix the implementation of the EC protocol driver
  implement support for error results from EC commands
  implement board identification for 1.75
  initial support for OLPC battery driver on XO-1.75
  implement debugfs-based generic EC command mechanism
  cosmetic changes -- whitespace, function ordering

Saadia Baloch (2):
  Add support for keyboard and touchpad for OLPC 1.75 via Marvell
MMP Security Processor.
  olpc_keyboard.c: Fix duplicate close call from touchpad serio.


Hmmm. Upon review, it seems like it's missing CONFIG_OLPC_BATTERY so
os18 is on its way.



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Re: Good news: mostly complete dist-f14 package list

2011-06-30 Thread Peter Robinson
On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 3:06 PM, Martin Langhoff
wrote:

> On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 10:50 AM, Martin Langhoff
>  wrote:
> > Missing 174
>
> Missing 156 (22%) from 681
>
>
Your actually out some what and impatient :-P

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Re: 11.2.0 successful XO-1 olpc-update, keyboard woes

2011-06-30 Thread Daniel Drake
Thanks a lot for the feedback.

On 30 June 2011 12:32, S Page  wrote:
> Ctrl+Alt+Neighborhood to switch to console doesn't work, nor do other
> Ctrl+Alt+Fn combinations.

Strange. Ctrl+Alt+F2 and F3 should take you to terminals, and F1 back
to sugar. Can you reproduce this?

> Also, pressing left and right mouse buttons simultaneously used to
> paste the primary selection in Terminal, I think because this
> simulates a middle-click and that's been the middle mouse button
> behavior in UNIX. Not any more.

Did this definitely work in 10.1.3?
Sounds like an unintentional change if that is the case.

> The Frame gained a new touchpad icon that seems to disable the
> touchpad, I couldn't see any documentation for this in release notes
> or Sugar release notes or the Help activity. Unlike everything else in
> the frame it has no context menu on hover.

Thanks, I will put this in the release notes.

It turns it into resistive mode, which means you need a stylus-like
object to move the mouse around.

Daniel
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Re: Good news: mostly complete dist-f14 package list

2011-06-30 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 10:50 AM, Martin Langhoff
 wrote:
> Missing 174

Missing 156 (22%) from 681


cheers,



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Re: [Testing] 11.2.0 successful XO-1 olpc-update, keyboard woes

2011-06-30 Thread Paul Fox
s wrote:
 > Also, pressing left and right mouse buttons simultaneously used to
 > paste the primary selection in Terminal, I think because this
 > simulates a middle-click and that's been the middle mouse button
 > behavior in UNIX. Not any more.

ah!  i wondered about that.  i noticed it didn't work, but wasn't sure
how long it had been broken.  i know of no reason _not_ to enable
3-button emulation, and it's very convenient for users of other system
that have three buttons.  if it's easy, it would be great to turn that
back on.

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Re: 11.2.0 successful XO-1 olpc-update, keyboard woes

2011-06-30 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
I had problems with the keyboard. Someone was saying in another thread

> (that I can't find) that Shift+Ctrl+C/V don't work to copy and paste
> in Terminal activity. I found this too, for hours only the menu items
> worked. Then the keyboard shortcuts started working; it might have
> been some combination of moving between various activity menus that
> made it work.
>
>
Ticket #10930 http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/10930
fix proposed, waiting review.


Ctrl+Alt+Neighborhood to switch to console doesn't work, nor do other
> Ctrl+Alt+Fn combinations.
>
>
Try Ctrl-Alt-Home


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11.2.0 successful XO-1 olpc-update, keyboard woes

2011-06-30 Thread S Page
XO-1 updating from 10.1.3 to 11.2.0.

It was hard to free up enough space. As Yioryos Asprobounitis said in
"olpc-update works on XO-1!" I had to delete ~/Library content and
there's no UI to do so for bundled content.  After I freed up enough
space, my third `sudo olpc-update candidate-870` completed
successfully, so it seems you can just retry the command until it
works. I don't know how much space free I would have needed to do it
one go, his 470MB sounds about right.

Shutdown and restart went fine, and then I had 370 MB space free
thanks to 11.2.0 removing the old version's files in /versions.
Software Update worked fine, down to 311MB free. Networking and power
seem to work well, Journal preserved my old items and metadata. Great
stuff!

I had problems with the keyboard. Someone was saying in another thread
(that I can't find) that Shift+Ctrl+C/V don't work to copy and paste
in Terminal activity. I found this too, for hours only the menu items
worked. Then the keyboard shortcuts started working; it might have
been some combination of moving between various activity menus that
made it work.

Ctrl+Alt+Neighborhood to switch to console doesn't work, nor do other
Ctrl+Alt+Fn combinations.

Also, pressing left and right mouse buttons simultaneously used to
paste the primary selection in Terminal, I think because this
simulates a middle-click and that's been the middle mouse button
behavior in UNIX. Not any more.

When My Settings is up, if you Alt-Tab to the Journal you can't
operate the Journal or type in its find box, but you can Alt-Tab to
the Terminal and type behind it.

The Frame gained a new touchpad icon that seems to disable the
touchpad, I couldn't see any documentation for this in release notes
or Sugar release notes or the Help activity. Unlike everything else in
the frame it has no context menu on hover.

I can file bugs for these...

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