Re: [Sugar-devel] Potential volunteer offering technical writing
On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 1:12 AM, Chris Leonard wrote: > On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 7:19 PM, Martin Langhoff > wrote: >> On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 6:25 PM, Chris Leonard >> wrote: >>> In any refresh of the XO manual (Help Activity), I would very much >>> appreciate if some structural choices could be made to facilitate the >>> internationalization of the text >> >> Agreed on the general goal. My understanding is that the Help activity >> is assembled from content from several manuals about sugar and >> activities, created and edited at FLOSS Manuals. >> >> I suspect that FLOSS Manuals has a means to maintain translated >> versions, not sure how well it works, but several existing manuals >> offer alternative language versions. >> >> Maybe the FLOSS manuals platforms is terminally borked in this regard, >> I honestly hope not. Because Pootle is not suited for this style of >> documentation -- we sure want something wiki-ish that handles >> paragraphs, tables, embedded images... (earlier message sent prematurely) I need to spend a little bit of time on FLOSSManuals, I'd heard something about hem incorporating booki http://www.booki.cc/ but I have not investigated it extensively since then to see how much of an improvement it is with regards to L10n. L10n of long-form content is an area where I think there are some excellent bits and pieces, but I'm not convinced that there is a really nice end-to-end solution yet. I think very highly of FLOSSManuals as a book publishing platform, but was less than impressed with it's L10n workflow. I am happy that several of the Sugar OLPC boks have been translated, but these have been time-focused efforts requiring a lot of coordination and not amenable to the slower accumulation of collaborative work that characterizes Poolte L10n work. I like also wikislicing as a content collection method and Wikimedia's WikiBook effort has some superb features with respect to content collection and publishing. To the extent that orthologous articles exist across wikis it can also address L10n, essentially by slicing "pre-localized" content. Unfortunately, while the PDF output from WikiBooks is quite beautifully formatted, it's size is large and PDFs are not that easy to edit after the fact. http://wiki.laptop.org/go/File:TamTamSuite_collection.pdf The ,odt output option from WikiBooks is easier to edit, but I think it has real deficiencies in formatting, and IMHO, is frankly ugly. However, both of these formats produce rather large files compared to simple HTML and an HTML output option is not currently available. My reasoning on requesting availability of a plain text version is that facilitates bringing the strings to the localizer, instead of forcing you to bring the localizer to the strings (and a new tool). Admittedly, this has its; own flaws and requires more substantial post-processing to get a nicely formatted product. The ideal all-singing, all-dancing long-form L10n tool with content management system features and e-publishing features may be out there, but I haven't seen it yet. I do welcome others to join in the exploration of the various options and techniques for cobbling together a workflow that optimally meets our needs, but most of all, I encourage thinking about i18n / L10n in all aspects of our work. cjl ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Potential volunteer offering technical writing
On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 7:19 PM, Martin Langhoff wrote: > On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 6:25 PM, Chris Leonard > wrote: >> In any refresh of the XO manual (Help Activity), I would very much >> appreciate if some structural choices could be made to facilitate the >> internationalization of the text > > Agreed on the general goal. My understanding is that the Help activity > is assembled from content from several manuals about sugar and > activities, created and edited at FLOSS Manuals. > > I suspect that FLOSS Manuals has a means to maintain translated > versions, not sure how well it works, but several existing manuals > offer alternative language versions. > > Maybe the FLOSS manuals platforms is terminally borked in this regard, > I honestly hope not. Because Pootle is not suited for this style of > documentation -- we sure want something wiki-ish that handles > paragraphs, tables, embedded images... I need to spend a little bit of time on FLOSSManuals, I'd heard something about hem incorporating booki http://www.booki.cc/ but I have not investigated it extensively since then to see how much of an improvement it is with regards to L10n. L10n of long-form content is an area where I think there are some excellent bits and pieces, but I'm not convinced that there is a really nice end-to-end solution yet. I think very highly of FLOSSManuals as a book publishing platform, but was less than impressed with it's L10n workflow. I am happy that several of the Sugar OLPC boks have been translated, but these have been time-focused efforts requiring a lot of coordination and not amenable to the slower accumulation of collaborative work that characterizes Poolte L10n work. I like also wikislicing as a content collection method and Wikimedia's WikiBook effort has some superb features with respect to content collection and publishing. To the extent that orthologous articles exist across wikis it can also address L10n, essentially by slicing "pre-localized" content. Unfortunately, while the PDF output from WikiBooks is quite beautifully formatted, it's size is large and PDFs are not that easy to edit after the fact. http://wiki.laptop.org/go/File:TamTamSuite_collection.pdf The ,odt output option from WikiBooks is easier to edit, but I think it has real deficiencies in formatting, and IMHO, is frankly ugly. However, both of these formats produce rather large files compared to simple HTML and an HTML output option is not currently available. My reasoning on requesting availability fo a plain text version is tha tit facilitates bringing the strings to the locali ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Potential volunteer offering technical writing
I think the easier way is have a different floss manual by language. The Help Activity is only a shell, we can create a e-pub or a content bundle if we want, but doing the i18n at this level will be a nightmare. Gonzalo On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 7:25 PM, Chris Leonard wrote: > All, > > In any refresh of the XO manual (Help Activity), I would very much > appreciate if some structural choices could be made to facilitate the > internationalization of the text so that it can be converted into PO > files and posted on Pootle for translation into a renewed Help > Activity. That is not to say a pretty web-version would not also be > nice. > > An ideal format option would include producing a simple plain text > version with paragraphs separated by a whitespace line (easily parsed > by txt2po) and back converted with po2txt. > > I have had very little success with the html2po tool from the > Translate Toolkit when I explored parsing the current Help Activity's > html pages for i18n and L10n. Nor have I had any great success with > parsing the FLOSSManuals version. On the other hand, txt2po and > po2txt has been working well for the Waveplace lesson plans. > > I have long considered it a great shame that the Help Activity was > only in English, and although the XO manual on FLOSSManuals has seen > translation into a few languages, I fear that the tools for long-form > content L10n are just not as functional as Pootle or as well used by > our L10n community. > > cjl > > > On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 9:12 AM, Christoph Derndorfer > wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 5:18 AM, Martin Langhoff < > martin.langh...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > >> > >> Hi Tabs! > >> > >> that's great! Here's an idea: I was looking at recently at the FLOSS > >> Manuals manuals for Sugar and activities... and they are a bit dated > >> -- they cover Sugar 0.86 or so. Screens have changed quite a bit :-) > >> and some procedures are much simpler (ad hoc networking for example). > >> > >> And the FLOSS Manuals feed into the Help Activity, so work there pays > >> of many times over... > >> > >> My 2 deflationary cents... > > > > +2 equally deflationary Eurocents;-) > > eKindling's Cherry (now in CC) suggested a similar Help Activity Refresh > as > > one of the activities for the OLPC-SF Community Summit and some good > ideas > > were thrown around as a result. So I think it makes sense to tie those > two > > thread of conversation together. > > Cheers, > > Christoph > > > >> > >> m > >> > >> On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 5:51 AM, Tabitha Roder > >> wrote: > >> > Hi > >> > > >> > If we had a volunteer (English Native language) professional technical > >> > writer, what writing would be of most use to OLPC or Sugar that we can > >> > point > >> > her in the direction of? She currently works with developers to write > >> > end > >> > user documentation. > >> > > >> > Thanks > >> > Tabitha - NZ volunteers > >> > > >> > ___ > >> > Devel mailing list > >> > Devel@lists.laptop.org > >> > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> martin.langh...@gmail.com > >> mar...@laptop.org -- Software Architect - OLPC > >> - ask interesting questions > >> - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first > >> - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff > >> ___ > >> Devel mailing list > >> Devel@lists.laptop.org > >> http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel > > > > > > > > -- > > Christoph Derndorfer > > editor, OLPC News [www.olpcnews.com] > > volunteer, OLPC (Austria) [www.olpc.at] > > e-mail: christ...@derndorfer.eu > > > > > > ___ > > Sugar-devel mailing list > > sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org > > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel > > > > > ___ > Devel mailing list > Devel@lists.laptop.org > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel > ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Browse-129 PDF fork for 11.3.0
Hi Daniel, 2011/10/4 Daniel Drake : > Hi, > > As agreed yesterday I had a quick look at the PDF plugin reader for > 11.3.0 and the addition of ARM support. > > Thanks to the earlier packaging by Gonzalo this was actually very > easy. Pushed to > http://git.sugarlabs.org/~godiard/browse/inline-pdf-11-2 > > packaged into: > http://dev.laptop.org/~dsd/20111004/Browse-129.1.xo > > Tested on both XO-1.5 and and XO-1.75, seems to be working as well as before. > > I think our discussion yesterday was leaning towards shipping this if > it could be restored without too much hassle - which has now been > done. Any objections? > > It would be great to get a little more testing before I put it in the build. Do you think is worth a try to fix the following bugs? olpc #10514 Scrolling using the arrow keys or dpad in Browse I've sent a patch in that ticket. Still, there is a problem with the focus of the embed. SL #2934 Browse PDF plugin does not have working tooltips This is an easy one. SL #2935 Browse PDF plugin in Fullscreen mode lacks an obvious way to get out of Fullscreen mode Cheers, -- .. manuq .. ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Potential volunteer offering technical writing
On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 7:19 PM, Martin Langhoff wrote: > On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 6:25 PM, Chris Leonard > wrote: >> In any refresh of the XO manual (Help Activity), I would very much >> appreciate if some structural choices could be made to facilitate the >> internationalization of the text > > Agreed on the general goal. My understanding is that the Help activity > is assembled from content from several manuals about sugar and > activities, created and edited at FLOSS Manuals. > > I suspect that FLOSS Manuals has a means to maintain translated > versions, not sure how well it works, but several existing manuals > offer alternative language versions. > > Maybe the FLOSS manuals platforms is terminally borked in this regard, > I honestly hope not. Because Pootle is not suited for this style of > documentation -- we sure want something wiki-ish that handles > paragraphs, tables, embedded images... Last I checked, the FLOSS Manual i18n system was very awkward to use. There are some XML-based i18n systems I looked at when we were first getting started, but it seems that PO files still are the way to go. regards. -walter > > cheers, > > > m > -- > martin.langh...@gmail.com > mar...@laptop.org -- Software Architect - OLPC > - ask interesting questions > - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first > - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff > ___ > Sugar-devel mailing list > sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel > -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Potential volunteer offering technical writing
On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 6:25 PM, Chris Leonard wrote: > In any refresh of the XO manual (Help Activity), I would very much > appreciate if some structural choices could be made to facilitate the > internationalization of the text Agreed on the general goal. My understanding is that the Help activity is assembled from content from several manuals about sugar and activities, created and edited at FLOSS Manuals. I suspect that FLOSS Manuals has a means to maintain translated versions, not sure how well it works, but several existing manuals offer alternative language versions. Maybe the FLOSS manuals platforms is terminally borked in this regard, I honestly hope not. Because Pootle is not suited for this style of documentation -- we sure want something wiki-ish that handles paragraphs, tables, embedded images... cheers, m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- Software Architect - OLPC - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Potential volunteer offering technical writing
All, In any refresh of the XO manual (Help Activity), I would very much appreciate if some structural choices could be made to facilitate the internationalization of the text so that it can be converted into PO files and posted on Pootle for translation into a renewed Help Activity. That is not to say a pretty web-version would not also be nice. An ideal format option would include producing a simple plain text version with paragraphs separated by a whitespace line (easily parsed by txt2po) and back converted with po2txt. I have had very little success with the html2po tool from the Translate Toolkit when I explored parsing the current Help Activity's html pages for i18n and L10n. Nor have I had any great success with parsing the FLOSSManuals version. On the other hand, txt2po and po2txt has been working well for the Waveplace lesson plans. I have long considered it a great shame that the Help Activity was only in English, and although the XO manual on FLOSSManuals has seen translation into a few languages, I fear that the tools for long-form content L10n are just not as functional as Pootle or as well used by our L10n community. cjl On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 9:12 AM, Christoph Derndorfer wrote: > On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 5:18 AM, Martin Langhoff > wrote: >> >> Hi Tabs! >> >> that's great! Here's an idea: I was looking at recently at the FLOSS >> Manuals manuals for Sugar and activities... and they are a bit dated >> -- they cover Sugar 0.86 or so. Screens have changed quite a bit :-) >> and some procedures are much simpler (ad hoc networking for example). >> >> And the FLOSS Manuals feed into the Help Activity, so work there pays >> of many times over... >> >> My 2 deflationary cents... > > +2 equally deflationary Eurocents;-) > eKindling's Cherry (now in CC) suggested a similar Help Activity Refresh as > one of the activities for the OLPC-SF Community Summit and some good ideas > were thrown around as a result. So I think it makes sense to tie those two > thread of conversation together. > Cheers, > Christoph > >> >> m >> >> On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 5:51 AM, Tabitha Roder >> wrote: >> > Hi >> > >> > If we had a volunteer (English Native language) professional technical >> > writer, what writing would be of most use to OLPC or Sugar that we can >> > point >> > her in the direction of? She currently works with developers to write >> > end >> > user documentation. >> > >> > Thanks >> > Tabitha - NZ volunteers >> > >> > ___ >> > Devel mailing list >> > Devel@lists.laptop.org >> > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel >> > >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> martin.langh...@gmail.com >> mar...@laptop.org -- Software Architect - OLPC >> - ask interesting questions >> - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first >> - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff >> ___ >> Devel mailing list >> Devel@lists.laptop.org >> http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel > > > > -- > Christoph Derndorfer > editor, OLPC News [www.olpcnews.com] > volunteer, OLPC (Austria) [www.olpc.at] > e-mail: christ...@derndorfer.eu > > > ___ > Sugar-devel mailing list > sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel > > ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: low contrast icons on the favourites view
On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 11:29 AM, Paul Fox wrote: > daniel wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Kevin Gordon > wrote: > > > On os8 on multiple XO 1.5's, i sometimes (unpredictably to me) get the > swirl > > > of icons in the favourites view coming up with many showing in very > low > > > contrast. Switching between list and favourites does not bring back > the > > > higher contrast. Rebooting the machine does restore the high contrast > ,then > > > upon continuing to perform some subsequent tasks and then going back > to the > > > favourites view, the wheel icons are mostly low contrast again. While > the > > > activities which I have visited are colour, there are ones I've never > been > > > in which are high-contrast b/w, but tmost of teh others look a very > dull > > > grey. > > > > > > I haven't seen for this on 11-2, 874, but I've been pretty well > immersed > > > just in 11.3 builds for the last little while. > > > > Is there something in the search box at the top of the screen? > > If there is, did you knowingly/accidently put it there? > > i've been bitten by this too. perhaps it would be possible > to somehow highlight the search box when it's in use? if the > inadvertent character is a period, or comma, or otherwise tiny > character, one has only a _very_ subtle visual cue as to what's > happened. if the search field outline, or even perhaps just the > magnifier icon, were colored when text was entered, it would be pretty > obvious what was happening. > > Now that I know where to look, and am vastly more experienced than I was just a mere 8 hours ago :-) there is a little x in a circle that appears at te right edge inside the Search field whenever there is something entered there - so there is already a difference between null and something present, in that box.I just didn't know this low contrast behaviour for filtering existed at all. Cheers KG > paul > > > And does clearing that search solve the issue? > > > > cheers > > Daniel > > ___ > > Devel mailing list > > Devel@lists.laptop.org > > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel > > =- > paul fox, p...@laptop.org > ___ > Devel mailing list > Devel@lists.laptop.org > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel > ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
downgrade firmware
Hi all, We have several laptops with a firmware version that doesn't work and we want to downgrade to a previous signed firmware. I think that we could make a fs.zip containing olpc.fth script whith the lines to do the downgrade. I did a basic script, but when XO boots I get the message restarting to enable SPI FLASH writing Try again after system restarts After restart, the laptop shows the same message again. Somebody knows how to solve this? Thanks, Esteban. ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: low contrast icons on the favourites view
daniel wrote: > On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Kevin Gordon wrote: > > On os8 on multiple XO 1.5's, i sometimes (unpredictably to me) get the > > swirl > > of icons in the favourites view coming up with many showing in very low > > contrast. Switching between list and favourites does not bring back the > > higher contrast. Rebooting the machine does restore the high contrast > > ,then > > upon continuing to perform some subsequent tasks and then going back to > > the > > favourites view, the wheel icons are mostly low contrast again. While the > > activities which I have visited are colour, there are ones I've never been > > in which are high-contrast b/w, but tmost of teh others look a very dull > > grey. > > > > I haven't seen for this on 11-2, 874, but I've been pretty well immersed > > just in 11.3 builds for the last little while. > > Is there something in the search box at the top of the screen? > If there is, did you knowingly/accidently put it there? i've been bitten by this too. perhaps it would be possible to somehow highlight the search box when it's in use? if the inadvertent character is a period, or comma, or otherwise tiny character, one has only a _very_ subtle visual cue as to what's happened. if the search field outline, or even perhaps just the magnifier icon, were colored when text was entered, it would be pretty obvious what was happening. paul > And does clearing that search solve the issue? > > cheers > Daniel > ___ > Devel mailing list > Devel@lists.laptop.org > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel =- paul fox, p...@laptop.org ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Devel Digest, Vol 68, Issue 4
> Message: 4 > Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2011 13:33:58 +0100 > Subject: Browse-129 PDF fork for 11.3.0 > > Hi, > > As agreed yesterday I had a quick look at the PDF plugin > reader for > 11.3.0 and the addition of ARM support. > > Thanks to the earlier packaging by Gonzalo this was > actually very > easy. Pushed to > http://git.sugarlabs.org/~godiard/browse/inline-pdf-11-2 > > packaged into: > http://dev.laptop.org/~dsd/20111004/Browse-129.1.xo > > Tested on both XO-1.5 and and XO-1.75, seems to be working > as well as before. > > Tried it in bunch of pdf and worked very nicely! Would it be possible to get gamepad/keys-, arrows-integration for scrolling? ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Devel Digest, Vol 68, Issue 4
BTW, and toally off-thread since DSD has recently announced that JFFS2 will be the 11-3 f/s on the XO-1, I have dusted off the old make-room mavrothal script for one more kick at the can! By know most of the heavy stuff is already removed (dri, firmware) So do not expect a lot of gains. Just the extra localizations and the 256x256 gnome icons. ~20MB Best ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Devel Digest, Vol 68, Issue 4
On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 10:59 AM, Yioryos Asprobounitis wrote: > > > Message: 6 > > Subject: low contrast icons on the favourites view > > On os8 on multiple XO 1.5's, i sometimes (unpredictably to > > me) get the swirl > > of icons in the favourites view coming up with many showing > > in very low > > contrast. > > Is there by any chance any text in the search box? > Not matching activities will show as low contrast icons. > YA: It may very well have been the issue ... wandering fingers ... :-) BTW, and toally off-thread since DSD has recently announced that JFFS2 will be the 11-3 f/s on the XO-1, I have dusted off the old make-room mavrothal script for one more kick at the can! Cheers, KG ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Devel Digest, Vol 68, Issue 4
> Message: 6 > Subject: low contrast icons on the favourites view > On os8 on multiple XO 1.5's, i sometimes (unpredictably to > me) get the swirl > of icons in the favourites view coming up with many showing > in very low > contrast. Is there by any chance any text in the search box? Not matching activities will show as low contrast icons. ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: low contrast icons on the favourites view
On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 9:50 AM, Gonzalo Odiard wrote: > May be, are you filtering activities? > We have enabled the filter entry (at the top of the screen), and the > unfiltered activities are displayed with lower alpha. > > Symptoms are exactly as described, and can be replicated and corrected, by using Daniel and Gonzalo's theory. Alt key also works as described in Walter's Post, I never knew that feature! I will monitor to see that is the sole cause. I certainly did not intentionally enter anything into the search field, but to borrow from our internal help-desk notes, the problem may very well be another "IFK" issue; yep, defect is within the person sitting 'in front of keyboard' :-) Thanks for the quick responses. Cheers KG > Gonzalo > > On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 10:42 AM, Kevin Gordon wrote: > >> On os8 on multiple XO 1.5's, i sometimes (unpredictably to me) get the >> swirl of icons in the favourites view coming up with many showing in very >> low contrast. Switching between list and favourites does not bring back the >> higher contrast. Rebooting the machine does restore the high contrast ,then >> upon continuing to perform some subsequent tasks and then going back to the >> favourites view, the wheel icons are mostly low contrast again. While the >> activities which I have visited are colour, there are ones I've never been >> in which are high-contrast b/w, but tmost of teh others look a very dull >> grey. >> >> I haven't seen for this on 11-2, 874, but I've been pretty well immersed >> just in 11.3 builds for the last little while. >> >> Is there a specific set of tests I should perform to see why this is >> happening, has anyone else seen this? >> >> Cheers >> >> KG >> >> ___ >> Devel mailing list >> Devel@lists.laptop.org >> http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel >> >> > ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: F15-arm7hl bootstrap with gcc / make?
On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 6:04 PM, DJ Delorie wrote: > Either should work. They have the minimum needed for mock builds, but > they do have "yum" so you can "yum install gcc make" (after a "yum > update" perhaps ;). Thanks. Yesterday yum was having trouble finding the yum repos, so I assumed they were bogus, and that the image was "as is". Today yum is happier, so must have been a transient network or server issue. cheers, m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- Software Architect - OLPC - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: low contrast icons on the favourites view
May be, are you filtering activities? We have enabled the filter entry (at the top of the screen), and the unfiltered activities are displayed with lower alpha. Gonzalo On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 10:42 AM, Kevin Gordon wrote: > On os8 on multiple XO 1.5's, i sometimes (unpredictably to me) get the > swirl of icons in the favourites view coming up with many showing in very > low contrast. Switching between list and favourites does not bring back the > higher contrast. Rebooting the machine does restore the high contrast ,then > upon continuing to perform some subsequent tasks and then going back to the > favourites view, the wheel icons are mostly low contrast again. While the > activities which I have visited are colour, there are ones I've never been > in which are high-contrast b/w, but tmost of teh others look a very dull > grey. > > I haven't seen for this on 11-2, 874, but I've been pretty well immersed > just in 11.3 builds for the last little while. > > Is there a specific set of tests I should perform to see why this is > happening, has anyone else seen this? > > Cheers > > KG > > ___ > Devel mailing list > Devel@lists.laptop.org > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel > > ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: low contrast icons on the favourites view
On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Kevin Gordon wrote: > On os8 on multiple XO 1.5's, i sometimes (unpredictably to me) get the swirl > of icons in the favourites view coming up with many showing in very low > contrast. Switching between list and favourites does not bring back the > higher contrast. Rebooting the machine does restore the high contrast ,then > upon continuing to perform some subsequent tasks and then going back to the > favourites view, the wheel icons are mostly low contrast again. While the > activities which I have visited are colour, there are ones I've never been > in which are high-contrast b/w, but tmost of teh others look a very dull > grey. > > I haven't seen for this on 11-2, 874, but I've been pretty well immersed > just in 11.3 builds for the last little while. Is there something in the search box at the top of the screen? If there is, did you knowingly/accidently put it there? And does clearing that search solve the issue? cheers Daniel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: low contrast icons on the favourites view
On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 9:42 AM, Kevin Gordon wrote: > On os8 on multiple XO 1.5's, i sometimes (unpredictably to me) get the swirl > of icons in the favourites view coming up with many showing in very low > contrast. Switching between list and favourites does not bring back the > higher contrast. Rebooting the machine does restore the high contrast ,then > upon continuing to perform some subsequent tasks and then going back to the > favourites view, the wheel icons are mostly low contrast again. While the > activities which I have visited are colour, there are ones I've never been > in which are high-contrast b/w, but tmost of teh others look a very dull > grey. > > I haven't seen for this on 11-2, 874, but I've been pretty well immersed > just in 11.3 builds for the last little while. > > Is there a specific set of tests I should perform to see why this is > happening, has anyone else seen this? If you hit the Alt key, the icons should all become uncolored, indicating that they will launch a new instance instead of a most-recent instance of the activity. But releasing the Alt key should restore the colors/contrast. But maybe try hitting Alt a few times to see if it restores the colors? regards. -walter > > Cheers > > KG > > ___ > Devel mailing list > Devel@lists.laptop.org > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel > > -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
low contrast icons on the favourites view
On os8 on multiple XO 1.5's, i sometimes (unpredictably to me) get the swirl of icons in the favourites view coming up with many showing in very low contrast. Switching between list and favourites does not bring back the higher contrast. Rebooting the machine does restore the high contrast ,then upon continuing to perform some subsequent tasks and then going back to the favourites view, the wheel icons are mostly low contrast again. While the activities which I have visited are colour, there are ones I've never been in which are high-contrast b/w, but tmost of teh others look a very dull grey. I haven't seen for this on 11-2, 874, but I've been pretty well immersed just in 11.3 builds for the last little while. Is there a specific set of tests I should perform to see why this is happening, has anyone else seen this? Cheers KG ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Potential volunteer offering technical writing
On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 5:18 AM, Martin Langhoff wrote: > Hi Tabs! > > that's great! Here's an idea: I was looking at recently at the FLOSS > Manuals manuals for Sugar and activities... and they are a bit dated > -- they cover Sugar 0.86 or so. Screens have changed quite a bit :-) > and some procedures are much simpler (ad hoc networking for example). > > And the FLOSS Manuals feed into the Help Activity, so work there pays > of many times over... > > My 2 deflationary cents... +2 equally deflationary Eurocents;-) eKindling's Cherry (now in CC) suggested a similar Help Activity Refresh as one of the activities for the OLPC-SF Community Summit and some good ideas were thrown around as a result. So I think it makes sense to tie those two thread of conversation together. Cheers, Christoph > m > > On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 5:51 AM, Tabitha Roder > wrote: > > Hi > > > > If we had a volunteer (English Native language) professional technical > > writer, what writing would be of most use to OLPC or Sugar that we can > point > > her in the direction of? She currently works with developers to write end > > user documentation. > > > > Thanks > > Tabitha - NZ volunteers > > > > ___ > > Devel mailing list > > Devel@lists.laptop.org > > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel > > > > > > > > -- > martin.langh...@gmail.com > mar...@laptop.org -- Software Architect - OLPC > - ask interesting questions > - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first > - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff > ___ > Devel mailing list > Devel@lists.laptop.org > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel > -- Christoph Derndorfer editor, OLPC News [www.olpcnews.com] volunteer, OLPC (Austria) [www.olpc.at] e-mail: christ...@derndorfer.eu ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Browse-129 PDF fork for 11.3.0
Hi, As agreed yesterday I had a quick look at the PDF plugin reader for 11.3.0 and the addition of ARM support. Thanks to the earlier packaging by Gonzalo this was actually very easy. Pushed to http://git.sugarlabs.org/~godiard/browse/inline-pdf-11-2 packaged into: http://dev.laptop.org/~dsd/20111004/Browse-129.1.xo Tested on both XO-1.5 and and XO-1.75, seems to be working as well as before. I think our discussion yesterday was leaning towards shipping this if it could be restored without too much hassle - which has now been done. Any objections? It would be great to get a little more testing before I put it in the build. And lets not forget to fix this properly next cycle... Thanks, Daniel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
