Re: Attempting to re-purpose former XO 1.5 4GB microSD cards.

2012-09-16 Thread Richard A. Smith

On 09/16/2012 09:57 PM, Kevin Gordon wrote:


Therefore, I fear that I must have been an ESD devil this morning when I
took the cards out of the machine, and fried them by not taking
recommended precautions.  I can think of no other plausible reason. But,
it appears it's just these two cards, and not the process.   Next time,
no skipping the wrist strap.  Sorry for the bother.

Aaargh .. but thanks again for answering quickly and adding even more
doisk management  tools to the arsenal.


I doubt it was ESD.  Rather I suspect you were hit with what our 
manufactures called an SPO or sudden power off.  I suspect the card 
power bounced while the FTL was moving some blocks around.  You don't 
actually have to remove the card for this to happen as the power to the 
card socket is software controlled.


We dealt with this numerous times while qualifying SD cards.  The EC in 
the XO keeps the power up on the SD card for several seconds after the 
main power it turned off to help prevent this from happening.


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Re: OLPC build creation failed

2012-09-16 Thread James Cameron
I agree, the ratio between emulation and native is not so great, it is
only around 2:1.  Having fast I/O attached to your emulator host
would compensate to some degree.

For those with slow or unreliable internet, it may be faster to do a
build in emulation than to use an XO-1.75 over SSH followed by copying
the build.

The work flow and techniques of batch processing can be used.

You can easily increase the number of builders by adding cheap
systems, or more emulators on an SMP system, and start a new builder
as soon as you have a new change, without waiting for the previous
builders to finish.

Don't let the good be the enemy of the perfect.

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Re: Attempting to re-purpose former XO 1.5 4GB microSD cards.

2012-09-16 Thread Kevin Gordon
On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 8:47 PM, James Cameron  wrote:

> I've never had any trouble.  The supplied microSD cards are readily
> repartitioned and reformatted.  Check that you didn't repartition the
> wrong device?
>

Thanks Mikus, James and Wad.

I decided to figure from the responses, that I wasnt as stupid as I look
process-wise, and tried the suggestions and made sure I was doing the
'right' partitions.

No go.

So, I did the old, well let's go back to a known state.   So I put these
two cards back into an XO 1.5.  A) They didn't boot, and B) they wouldnt
re-flash.  I then picked another random XO 1.5 with a 4GB card, did the
same process, and lo and behold, the 4GB SD card repartioned and formatted
without a problem.

Therefore, I fear that I must have been an ESD devil this morning when I
took the cards out of the machine, and fried them by not taking recommended
precautions.  I can think of no other plausible reason. But, it appears
it's just these two cards, and not the process.   Next time, no skipping
the wrist strap.  Sorry for the bother.

Aaargh .. but thanks again for answering quickly and adding even more doisk
management  tools to the arsenal.

KG



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Re: Attempting to re-purpose former XO 1.5 4GB microSD cards.

2012-09-16 Thread James Cameron
I've never had any trouble.  The supplied microSD cards are readily
repartitioned and reformatted.  Check that you didn't repartition the
wrong device?

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Re: Attempting to re-purpose former XO 1.5 4GB microSD cards.

2012-09-16 Thread John Watlington

No idea.  I've done that any number of times with no problem
from XOs, and even my Mac.

wad

On Sep 16, 2012, at 2:52 PM, Kevin Gordon wrote:

> Folks:
> 
> I am to understand that any upcoming m/b upgrade to an XO 1.5 will perhaps 
> come with an 8GB card, thus making the old 4GB card superfluous.  As such, I 
> figured I would run an attempt at repurposing them.
> 
> So in anticipation, I've taken out two (working perfectly) microSD 4GB cards 
> from a couple of test 1.5's, placed 8Gb cards in the machines, re-flashed 
> them, and all is good on those XO boxes with the new cards
> 
> I then take the removed 4GB cards over to my Fedora 17 box and try to 
> reformat them.  I must be doing something wrong, or have missed some basic 
> info - and, no, I am in as su, and the cards are not in hardware read-only 
> switched adapters :-)
> 
> I've tried parted, fdisk, then tried diskutil over on a Mac, Ubuntu. and yes, 
> even disk manager on Windows.  I cant seem to find any way to delete the 2 
> linux partitions and make just one big happy fat32 partition on either card, 
> on any machine, using any software. On Fedora, fdisk seems to let me delete 
> the partitions:  i choose, i delete 1 & 2, i write, i look and it says there 
> are no partitions.  But lo and behold, when I reboot as suggested, they 
> 'reappear'.  I even tried on an F11 and F14 box too. gparted shows them 
> successfully deleted, then on the post-op rescan, they're back.Am I 
> missing something basic?  I have happily formatted and reformatted, 
> partitioned, resized, and otherwise intialised  many other (non-former XO 
> boot) SD cards with linux/fat32/linux-swap partitions on all of these 
> machines; but. alas I now feel all newbie again.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> KG
> 
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Attempting to re-purpose former XO 1.5 4GB microSD cards.

2012-09-16 Thread Kevin Gordon
Folks:

I am to understand that any upcoming m/b upgrade to an XO 1.5 will perhaps
come with an 8GB card, thus making the old 4GB card superfluous.  As such,
I figured I would run an attempt at repurposing them.

So in anticipation, I've taken out two (working perfectly) microSD 4GB
cards from a couple of test 1.5's, placed 8Gb cards in the machines,
re-flashed them, and all is good on those XO boxes with the new cards

I then take the removed 4GB cards over to my Fedora 17 box and try to
reformat them.  I must be doing something wrong, or have missed some basic
info - and, no, I am in as su, and the cards are not in hardware read-only
switched adapters :-)

I've tried parted, fdisk, then tried diskutil over on a Mac, Ubuntu. and
yes, even disk manager on Windows.  I cant seem to find any way to delete
the 2 linux partitions and make just one big happy fat32 partition on
either card, on any machine, using any software. On Fedora, fdisk seems to
let me delete the partitions:  i choose, i delete 1 & 2, i write, i look
and it says there are no partitions.  But lo and behold, when I reboot as
suggested, they 'reappear'.  I even tried on an F11 and F14 box too.
gparted shows them successfully deleted, then on the post-op rescan,
they're back.Am I missing something basic?  I have happily formatted
and reformatted, partitioned, resized, and otherwise intialised  many other
(non-former XO boot) SD cards with linux/fat32/linux-swap partitions on all
of these machines; but. alas I now feel all newbie again.

Cheers

KG
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