13.1.0 schedule: 1 week extension

2012-11-02 Thread Daniel Drake
Hi,

The final 2 dates in the 13.1.0 schedule has been modified.

http://wiki.laptop.org/go/13.1.0/Release_plan

The move to regression-fixes-only is now November 15th, and the final
release is now scheduled for December 13th.

Daniel
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q7b04

2012-11-02 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Hi,

I just flashed my 4B1 to q7b04 (from q7b01), it seemed to finish normally, 
rebooted, now it's bricked - Invalid Firmware image, powering off in 30 secs.

Any idea what could be wrong? The machine seemed to work fine before.

Also, I gave away my serial adapter, can only get it back after the weekend, is 
there another way to get it working again?

- Bert -


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Re: q7b04

2012-11-02 Thread Paul Fox
there's another copy of the firmware in the root filesystem that's
being checked for auto-updating, and it's out-of-date, and we changed
the format.

at the ok prompt, run:
ok delete int:\boot\bootfw.zip
ok delete int:\boot\bootfw4.zip

only one of those two commands will be successful -- i believe the
second one.  (but since i can't remember for sure the name of the
offending file, i'm suggesting you run both.  :-)

paul

bert wrote:
  Hi,
  
  I just flashed my 4B1 to q7b04 (from q7b01), it seemed to finish normally, 
  rebooted, now it's bricked - Invalid Firmware image, powering off in 30 
  secs.
  
  Any idea what could be wrong? The machine seemed to work fine before.
  
  Also, I gave away my serial adapter, can only get it back after the weekend, 
  is there another way to get it working again?
  
  - Bert -
  
  
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Re: q7b04

2012-11-02 Thread Bert Freudenberg
That worked, thanks! I hadn't noticed the OFW prompt still worked.

And it's the second command (I 'dir'ed before).

- Bert -

On 2012-11-02, at 16:32, Paul Fox p...@laptop.org wrote:

 there's another copy of the firmware in the root filesystem that's
 being checked for auto-updating, and it's out-of-date, and we changed
 the format.
 
 at the ok prompt, run:
ok delete int:\boot\bootfw.zip
ok delete int:\boot\bootfw4.zip
 
 only one of those two commands will be successful -- i believe the
 second one.  (but since i can't remember for sure the name of the
 offending file, i'm suggesting you run both.  :-)
 
 paul
 
 bert wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I just flashed my 4B1 to q7b04 (from q7b01), it seemed to finish normally, 
 rebooted, now it's bricked - Invalid Firmware image, powering off in 30 
 secs.
 
 Any idea what could be wrong? The machine seemed to work fine before.
 
 Also, I gave away my serial adapter, can only get it back after the weekend, 
 is there another way to get it working again?
 
 - Bert -
 
 
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OwNet

2012-11-02 Thread Martin Lipták
Hi everyone,

We are a group of students from the Slovak University of Technology. Last
year we took part in an international competition called Imagine Cup. We
created an application, called OwNet, that enables users with poor Internet
connection browse the Web more effectively and even offline by providing a
local proxy that intelligently caches and prefetches Web pages. It also
contains some educational features, as it is intended for schools in Africa.

OwNet is currently being deployed in Kenya, at schools in Nanyuki and Voi.
Because of the rules of the Imagine Cup competition, our application is
implemented using Microsoft technologies. However, this year we are going
to reimplement it using cross-platform technologies so that it can also be
used under Linux.

Recently we came across the project OLPC. We find it very interesting and,
if possible, we would like to contribute to the project. Could our
application be somehow useful to OLPC? Possibly some parts could be
integrated into the Sugar interface (e.g. intelligent caching, prefetching
or educational features). Since we intend a full reimplementation, we could
choose features based on your preference or suggestions.

We would really appreciate your feedback, questions or ideas.

You can also find more information about the project on our website:
http://ownet.fiit.stuba.sk/?l=uk


Thank you very much.

Cheers,
the OwNet team
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gathering use cases

2012-11-02 Thread Sameer Verma
There are several use cases that may or may not get addressed when
designing a particular software stack to address a requirement.

The XS 0.7 is designed to be a single image install and comes with Moodle.
Given that I work with Moodle everyday, I see the pros and cons of it being
central on the XS. I am in fact fairly happy with its current design, but
also realize that it was built for a specific use case or three that OLPC
needed at the time.

There is also an effort (currently dubbed XS Community Edition) that is
attempting to address certain other use cases where Moodle and other
services could possibly become optional. We saw this at the OLPC SF
Community Summit. I hope it will grow up to be the next XS (but that's
another thread).

My concern is that perhaps, if we don't do our homework right, we will once
again build something that will fail to address a use case or two. Can one
design address all use cases? Maybe not. But it's good to know what those
use cases are.

To this end, I would like to collect data on different possible use cases
from all kinds of deployments. I have a student (cc'd) who is working on
this project currently. She will gather data from various deployments
(suitcase, boutique, MoE etc) as much as possible (with the cooperation of
projects, of course) and write a report on what we see out there. We'll
gladly make the report available once it is done.

Is this useful?

What should the scope be? Initially I had thought of the server side, but
that may be limiting. What should we gather?
Location, school, size, personnel, skills, electricity, Internet access,
language, sugar version, ...

Feedback?

cheers,
Sameer
-- 
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Professor, Information Systems
San Francisco State University
http://verma.sfsu.edu/
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Re: gathering use cases

2012-11-02 Thread Holt
Thanks much Sameer.  Am including support-g...@laptop.org to make sure 
we gather microdeployment and support volunteer feedback too.


While our XS Community Edition experiment ain't quite ready for 
showtime/download yet, its white paper  code repository are here:

http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Holt/XS_Community_Edition

Feedback will be especially interesting this week as many of us will 
reconvene outside Toronto Nov 10-18 to advance this work, with nightly 
Skype calls then for those with a strong interest in contributing.


Daniel Drake helped George a lot in SF, but note SF Summit presenter 
(one of XSCE's lead developers, George Hunt) is part of the 3 million 
households / 6-10 million people lacking electricity around NY/NJ due to 
the Hurricane Sandy, so he won't be able to respond immediately -- 
please don't let that stop you from carefully reviewing his/our work -- 
responses will certainly be forthcoming later in the week!


On 11/2/2012 4:15 PM, Sameer Verma wrote:
There are several use cases that may or may not get addressed when 
designing a particular software stack to address a requirement.


The XS 0.7 is designed to be a single image install and comes with 
Moodle. Given that I work with Moodle everyday, I see the pros and 
cons of it being central on the XS. I am in fact fairly happy with its 
current design, but also realize that it was built for a specific use 
case or three that OLPC needed at the time.


There is also an effort (currently dubbed XS Community Edition) that 
is attempting to address certain other use cases where Moodle and 
other services could possibly become optional. We saw this at the OLPC 
SF Community Summit. I hope it will grow up to be the next XS (but 
that's another thread).


My concern is that perhaps, if we don't do our homework right, we will 
once again build something that will fail to address a use case or 
two. Can one design address all use cases? Maybe not. But it's good to 
know what those use cases are.


To this end, I would like to collect data on different possible use 
cases from all kinds of deployments. I have a student (cc'd) who is 
working on this project currently. She will gather data from various 
deployments (suitcase, boutique, MoE etc) as much as possible (with 
the cooperation of projects, of course) and write a report on what we 
see out there. We'll gladly make the report available once it is done.


Is this useful?

What should the scope be? Initially I had thought of the server side, 
but that may be limiting. What should we gather?
Location, school, size, personnel, skills, electricity, Internet 
access, language, sugar version, ...


Feedback?

cheers,
Sameer
--
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Professor, Information Systems
San Francisco State University
http://verma.sfsu.edu/
http://commons.sfsu.edu/
http://olpcsf.org/
http://olpcjamaica.org.jm/


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RE: OwNet

2012-11-02 Thread Alan Jhonn Aguiar Schwyn
Sounds good..

From: mlip...@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2012 19:50:20 +0100
Subject: OwNet
To: devel@lists.laptop.org

Hi everyone,We are a group of students from the Slovak University of 
Technology. Last year we took part in an international competition called 
Imagine Cup. We created an application, called OwNet, that enables users with 
poor Internet connection browse the Web more effectively and even offline by 
providing a local proxy that intelligently caches and prefetches Web pages. It 
also contains some educational features, as it is intended for schools in 
Africa.

OwNet is currently being deployed in Kenya, at schools in Nanyuki and Voi. 
Because of the rules of the Imagine Cup competition, our application is 
implemented using Microsoft technologies. However, this year we are going to 
reimplement it using cross-platform technologies so that it can also be used 
under Linux.

Recently we came across the project OLPC. We find it very interesting and, if 
possible, we would like to contribute to the project. Could our application be 
somehow useful to OLPC? Possibly some parts could be integrated into the Sugar 
interface (e.g. intelligent caching, prefetching or educational features). 
Since we intend a full reimplementation, we could choose features based on your 
preference or suggestions.

We would really appreciate your feedback, questions or ideas.

You can also find more information about the project on our website:

http://ownet.fiit.stuba.sk/?l=uk

Thank you very much.



Cheers,the OwNet team

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Re: OwNet

2012-11-02 Thread John Gilmore
 implemented using Microsoft technologies. However=2C this year we are goin=
 g to reimplement it using cross-platform technologies so that it can also b=
 e used under Linux.

Have you heard of the Squid caching proxy for the Web?  Lots of people
at the slow end of an Internet connection use it, including major
ISPs.  It's already written, portable, and debugged.  See:

  http://www.squid-cache.org/

I also see a Sri Lankan effort called Dalesa, that works in both
Windows and Linux:

  http://www.opensource.lk/projects-Dalesa

John
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Re: OwNet

2012-11-02 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 2:50 PM, Martin Lipták mlip...@gmail.com wrote:
 We are a group of students from the Slovak University of Technology. Last
 year we took part in an international competition called Imagine Cup. We
 created an application, called OwNet, that enables users with poor Internet
 connection browse the Web more effectively and even offline by providing a
 local proxy that intelligently caches and prefetches Web pages. It also
 contains some educational features, as it is intended for schools in Africa.

Very interesting. How does that compare, include or interact with ... ?

 - crcsync project
 - wwwoffle

cheers,



m
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Re: gathering use cases

2012-11-02 Thread Chris Leonard
Sameer,

You should talk to SomosAzucar and Aleksey Lim about the use case for
Sugar Network being developed for a pilot in LimaNorte.

cjl

On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 4:15 PM, Sameer Verma sve...@sfsu.edu wrote:
 There are several use cases that may or may not get addressed when designing
 a particular software stack to address a requirement.

 The XS 0.7 is designed to be a single image install and comes with Moodle.
 Given that I work with Moodle everyday, I see the pros and cons of it being
 central on the XS. I am in fact fairly happy with its current design, but
 also realize that it was built for a specific use case or three that OLPC
 needed at the time.

 There is also an effort (currently dubbed XS Community Edition) that is
 attempting to address certain other use cases where Moodle and other
 services could possibly become optional. We saw this at the OLPC SF
 Community Summit. I hope it will grow up to be the next XS (but that's
 another thread).

 My concern is that perhaps, if we don't do our homework right, we will once
 again build something that will fail to address a use case or two. Can one
 design address all use cases? Maybe not. But it's good to know what those
 use cases are.

 To this end, I would like to collect data on different possible use cases
 from all kinds of deployments. I have a student (cc'd) who is working on
 this project currently. She will gather data from various deployments
 (suitcase, boutique, MoE etc) as much as possible (with the cooperation of
 projects, of course) and write a report on what we see out there. We'll
 gladly make the report available once it is done.

 Is this useful?

 What should the scope be? Initially I had thought of the server side, but
 that may be limiting. What should we gather?
 Location, school, size, personnel, skills, electricity, Internet access,
 language, sugar version, ...

 Feedback?

 cheers,
 Sameer
 --
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 Professor, Information Systems
 San Francisco State University
 http://verma.sfsu.edu/
 http://commons.sfsu.edu/
 http://olpcsf.org/
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[Server-devel] gathering use cases

2012-11-02 Thread Sameer Verma
There are several use cases that may or may not get addressed when
designing a particular software stack to address a requirement.

The XS 0.7 is designed to be a single image install and comes with Moodle.
Given that I work with Moodle everyday, I see the pros and cons of it being
central on the XS. I am in fact fairly happy with its current design, but
also realize that it was built for a specific use case or three that OLPC
needed at the time.

There is also an effort (currently dubbed XS Community Edition) that is
attempting to address certain other use cases where Moodle and other
services could possibly become optional. We saw this at the OLPC SF
Community Summit. I hope it will grow up to be the next XS (but that's
another thread).

My concern is that perhaps, if we don't do our homework right, we will once
again build something that will fail to address a use case or two. Can one
design address all use cases? Maybe not. But it's good to know what those
use cases are.

To this end, I would like to collect data on different possible use cases
from all kinds of deployments. I have a student (cc'd) who is working on
this project currently. She will gather data from various deployments
(suitcase, boutique, MoE etc) as much as possible (with the cooperation of
projects, of course) and write a report on what we see out there. We'll
gladly make the report available once it is done.

Is this useful?

What should the scope be? Initially I had thought of the server side, but
that may be limiting. What should we gather?
Location, school, size, personnel, skills, electricity, Internet access,
language, sugar version, ...

Feedback?

cheers,
Sameer
-- 
Sameer Verma, Ph.D.
Professor, Information Systems
San Francisco State University
http://verma.sfsu.edu/
http://commons.sfsu.edu/
http://olpcsf.org/
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Re: [Server-devel] gathering use cases

2012-11-02 Thread Chris Leonard
Sameer,

You should talk to SomosAzucar and Aleksey Lim about the use case for
Sugar Network being developed for a pilot in LimaNorte.

cjl

On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 4:15 PM, Sameer Verma sve...@sfsu.edu wrote:
 There are several use cases that may or may not get addressed when designing
 a particular software stack to address a requirement.

 The XS 0.7 is designed to be a single image install and comes with Moodle.
 Given that I work with Moodle everyday, I see the pros and cons of it being
 central on the XS. I am in fact fairly happy with its current design, but
 also realize that it was built for a specific use case or three that OLPC
 needed at the time.

 There is also an effort (currently dubbed XS Community Edition) that is
 attempting to address certain other use cases where Moodle and other
 services could possibly become optional. We saw this at the OLPC SF
 Community Summit. I hope it will grow up to be the next XS (but that's
 another thread).

 My concern is that perhaps, if we don't do our homework right, we will once
 again build something that will fail to address a use case or two. Can one
 design address all use cases? Maybe not. But it's good to know what those
 use cases are.

 To this end, I would like to collect data on different possible use cases
 from all kinds of deployments. I have a student (cc'd) who is working on
 this project currently. She will gather data from various deployments
 (suitcase, boutique, MoE etc) as much as possible (with the cooperation of
 projects, of course) and write a report on what we see out there. We'll
 gladly make the report available once it is done.

 Is this useful?

 What should the scope be? Initially I had thought of the server side, but
 that may be limiting. What should we gather?
 Location, school, size, personnel, skills, electricity, Internet access,
 language, sugar version, ...

 Feedback?

 cheers,
 Sameer
 --
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 Professor, Information Systems
 San Francisco State University
 http://verma.sfsu.edu/
 http://commons.sfsu.edu/
 http://olpcsf.org/
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