Re: 13.1.0 development build 16 released

2012-12-03 Thread Daniel Drake
On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 4:07 PM, Daniel Drake  wrote:
> We thought initial XO-4 audio support would be in this release, but
> looks like our earlier diagnosis is incomplete in that the system is
> still booting with the volume (PCM mixer) turned all the way down,
> even with the kernel changes included here. I plan to look into this
> tomorrow but no complaints if anyone beats me to it.

Initial diagnosis done at least...
http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/4296
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13.1.0 development build 16 released

2012-12-03 Thread Daniel Drake
Hi,

A new 13.1.0 development build is available.

http://wiki.laptop.org/go/13.1.0
http://build.laptop.org/13.1.0/os16

Includes Sugar-0.98.0 and a handful of activity updates.

Other recent changes/fixes:
#12107 Unbootable initramfs in secure mode
#12216 XO-1.75/XO4 don't support 1.8 volt SD cards
#12223 gzip --rsyncable option not understood

We thought initial XO-4 audio support would be in this release, but
looks like our earlier diagnosis is incomplete in that the system is
still booting with the volume (PCM mixer) turned all the way down,
even with the kernel changes included here. I plan to look into this
tomorrow but no complaints if anyone beats me to it.

This is the last development build, we now move into
regression-fixes-only mode (release candidates). The next build is
expected on Friday.

Thanks for any testing and feedback!
Daniel
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Re: Will the XO-4 need nonfree firmware

2012-12-03 Thread Martin Langhoff
Hi Richard!

On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 2:34 PM, Richard Stallman  wrote:
> They would need to get an external USB network device.

Are there completely free USB network devices, from your PoV?

> If someone sells them without the card (NOT with the card separately
> packaged), under another name, and if the cards are not easy to obtain,
> that could be a product we could endorse.

I am curious, why "if the cards are not easy to obtain"? Non-free
peripherals, such as USB-WLAN devices, easy to obtain for this and
other computers, no...?

cheers,



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Re: Will the XO-4 need nonfree firmware

2012-12-03 Thread Richard Stallman
In that case, this machine without that card might be an option
for people who want laptops they can use in freedom.
They would need to get an external USB network device.

If someone sells them without the card (NOT with the card separately
packaged), under another name, and if the cards are not easy to obtain,
that could be a product we could endorse.

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President, Free Software Foundation
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Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software.
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Re: Will the XO-4 need nonfree firmware

2012-12-03 Thread Richard Stallman
Yes, the XO-4 will need a nonfree firmware program copied by the
operating system into the wireless device.

That is disappointing news.  It means we won't be able to endorse it.

  The 8686 firmware is also in the Debian
non-free package firmware-libertas.

(What a perverse name!)

These steps might be placed in the boot script of the operating system
in order to avoid nonfree infection of an operating system
distribution.

To make it ok, it would have to be buried inside the hardware such
that the user and the system don't touch it at all.  It is
possible to do that, but it might take some extra hardware.

Is it possible to make the circuit such that the internal wireless
device can easily be removed or permanently disabled without breaking
the rest of the machine?  If so, we could endorse machines modified in
this way.

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President, Free Software Foundation
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