Re: Difference in behaviour of telepathy-gabble, when ejabberd is used with CentOS and Debian-6

2013-01-20 Thread Ajay Garg
Any ideas, please?  :)


On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Ajay Garg a...@activitycentral.com wrote:

 Hi all.

 I have been trying to get buddies visible in the neighborhood-view, when
 XOs are communicating via ejabberd-server (via telepathy-gabble).
 Following are the two cases ::


 i)
 Client  :: Sugar (Fedora-18 based)
 Server :: ejabberd on CentOS (XS-0.7)

 In this case, I am able to register the users on the server; and receive
 the  members changed signals (as per the attached
 PASS_telepathy_gabble.log).
 Of course, the buddies are able to see each other too :)


 ii)
 Client  :: Sugar (Fedora-18 based)
 Server :: ejabberd on Debian-6

 In this case, I am able to register the users on the server; but DO NOT
 receive the members changed signals (as per the attached
 FAIL_telepathy_gabble.log).
 Hence, buddies are not able to see each other.



 Some additional notes ::
 ==

 a)
 Both servers are running with the same  ejabberd.cfg file, as attached.


 b)
 On CentOS, following are effective, before starting ejabberd ::

setenforce 0
service iptables stop
service ip6tables stop


 On Debian-6, following are effective, before starting ejabberd ::

setenforce 0
iptables -F
iptables -X
iptables -t nat -F
iptables -t nat -X
iptables -t mangle -F
iptables -t mangle -X
ip6tables -F
ip6tables -X
ip6tables -t mangle -F
ip6tables -t mangle -X



 c)
 Both servers are running the same ejabberd codebase (the patched version
 of 2.1.10), containing all the patches in

 http://dev.laptop.org/xs/repos/stable/olpc/xs-0.7/source/ejabberd-2.1.10-1.el6.olpc1.src.rpm
 (Thanks again Jerry).

 More  importantly, the issue of
 https://support.process-one.net/browse/EJAB-1533 is fixed via the
 persist-all-pubsub.patch (Thanks Daniel Drake).
 The buddy-properties are persisted, as seen via ejabberdctl dump db.txt
 (as seen on both CentOS and Debian).



 
 However, very surprisingly, the __get_members_ready_cb still receives
 NOTHING in the failure-debian case  (see FAIL-shell.log),

   but receives the buddy-properties in pass-CentOScase (see
 PASS-shell.log).

 #



 d)
 Most importantly, on both the servers, the Send XML Stream log is seen
 in /var/log/ejabberd/ejabberd.log; however, the members-changed signal is
 seen only in the CentOS-ejabberd case, but not in Debian-6-ejabberd case.


 For brevity, I am also pasting the  Send XML Stream message (which
 happens to be the same on both the  servers) ::

 ==


 =INFO REPORT 2013-01-17 23:46:45 ===
 D(0.360.0:ejabberd_c2s:1561) : Send XML on stream = message from='
 5ccefd7c37c12600296e0505ad3be79c0476e...@schoolserver.mazaq.org' to='
 5ccefd7c37c12600296e0505ad3be79c0476e...@schoolserver.mazaq.org/sugar'
 type='headline'event xmlns='http://jabber.org/protocol/pubsub#event'items
 node='http://laptop.org/xmpp/buddy-properties'item
 id='54E6D08D69C42'properties xmlns='
 http://laptop.org/xmpp/buddy-properties'property name='color'
 type='str'#00A0FF,#9A5200/propertyproperty name='key'
 type='bytes'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/property/properties/item/items/eventaddresses
 xmlns='http://jabber.org/protocol/address'address type='replyto' jid='
 5ccefd7c37c12600296e0505ad3be79c0476e...@schoolserver.mazaq.org/sugar'/http://5ccefd7c37c12600296e0505ad3be79c0476e...@schoolserver.mazaq.org/sugar%27/
 

Re: Science Friday: power from gravity, deciwatt

2013-01-20 Thread smithb...@gmail.com

On 01/19/2013 02:39 AM, Hal Murray wrote:


Their target is light in Africa.   They are only getting 30 mW to 1/2 W so
the name is appropriate.  That's enough for illumination from LEDs.

It's not likely to be useful for OLPC any time soon.  It might be something
to keep an eye on.


The crowd sourcing link was posted on in the IRC devel channel a few 
months ago and we were debating how much power you could really extract 
out of it.  We came up with some really low numbers.  Low enough that I 
was questioning the usefulness but it seems that we were right on.  Just 
enough to light a low power LED.  Which he said was possible due to 
todays really efficient LEDs.


The 1/2W upper end required an adjustment in the descend rate for a much 
faster drop and he didn't give the time or weight used so difficult to 
make a guess at the actual energy available.


I think the most interesting thing was said just at the end of the 
interview where they were going to use some of the money they raised to 
research a very low power satellite receiver coupled with some sort of 
low power display to try and be able do download a wikipedia page.


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Re: Science Friday: power from gravity, deciwatt

2013-01-20 Thread scott

Hi All,

If light is the goal, they can accomplish this with an earth battery. 
This is essentially a chunk of magnesium ( I use thermite ribbon, wound as 
a coil on a wood former, but commercial fire starter blocks will work too) 
buried in the ground, with a chunk of copper or carbon buried north of the 
magnesium.  The potential difference between the metals is created due to 
telluric currents.. about 1.2V or so with current delivery being 
proportional to surface area of your electrodes.  I know, not much juice, 
but enough to trigger a silicon NPN bipolar transistor.  What good is 
that?  In a blocking oscillator circuit, you can use that low potential to 
charge and abruptly shut off an inductor, which gives you  higher 
potential transients at relativley high frequencies.  These transients are 
collected off the coil into the LED(s) to deliver light.


Cheers,
Scott

On Sun, 20 Jan 2013, smithb...@gmail.com wrote:


On 01/19/2013 02:39 AM, Hal Murray wrote:


Their target is light in Africa.   They are only getting 30 mW to 1/2 W so
the name is appropriate.  That's enough for illumination from LEDs.

It's not likely to be useful for OLPC any time soon.  It might be something
to keep an eye on.


The crowd sourcing link was posted on in the IRC devel channel a few months 
ago and we were debating how much power you could really extract out of it. 
We came up with some really low numbers.  Low enough that I was questioning 
the usefulness but it seems that we were right on.  Just enough to light a 
low power LED.  Which he said was possible due to todays really efficient 
LEDs.


The 1/2W upper end required an adjustment in the descend rate for a much 
faster drop and he didn't give the time or weight used so difficult to make a 
guess at the actual energy available.


I think the most interesting thing was said just at the end of the interview 
where they were going to use some of the money they raised to research a very 
low power satellite receiver coupled with some sort of low power display to 
try and be able do download a wikipedia page.


--
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smithb...@gmail.com
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Re: Difference in behaviour of telepathy-gabble, when ejabberd is used with CentOS and Debian-6

2013-01-20 Thread Jerry Vonau
On Sun, 2013-01-20 at 13:44 +0530, Ajay Garg wrote:
 Any ideas, please?  :)
 
 

Ok, how about a couple of questions. What version of erlang is
installed? Did you create the *online* group?

Jerry


 On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Ajay Garg a...@activitycentral.com
 wrote:
 Hi all.
 
 I have been trying to get buddies visible in the
 neighborhood-view, when XOs are communicating via
 ejabberd-server (via telepathy-gabble).
 Following are the two cases ::
 
 
 i)
 Client  :: Sugar (Fedora-18 based) 
 Server :: ejabberd on CentOS (XS-0.7)
 
 In this case, I am able to register the users on the server;
 and receive the  members changed signals (as per the
 attached PASS_telepathy_gabble.log).
 Of course, the buddies are able to see each other too :)
 
 
 ii)
 Client  :: Sugar (Fedora-18 based) 
 Server :: ejabberd on Debian-6
 
 In this case, I am able to register the users on the server;
 but DO NOT receive the members changed signals (as per the
 attached FAIL_telepathy_gabble.log).
 Hence, buddies are not able to see each other.
 
 
 
 Some additional notes ::
 ==
 
 a)
 Both servers are running with the same  ejabberd.cfg file,
 as attached.
 
 
 b)
 On CentOS, following are effective, before starting
 ejabberd ::
  
setenforce 0
service iptables
 stop
service ip6tables
 stop
 
 
 On Debian-6, following are effective, before starting
 ejabberd ::
 
setenforce 0
iptables -F
iptables -X
iptables -t nat -F
iptables -t nat
 -X   
iptables -t mangle
 -F
iptables -t mangle
 -X
ip6tables -F
ip6tables -X
ip6tables -t mangle
 -F
ip6tables -t mangle
 -X
 
 
 
 c)
 Both servers are running the same ejabberd codebase (the
 patched version of 2.1.10), containing all the patches in
 
 http://dev.laptop.org/xs/repos/stable/olpc/xs-0.7/source/ejabberd-2.1.10-1.el6.olpc1.src.rpm
   (Thanks again Jerry).
 
 More  importantly, the issue of
 https://support.process-one.net/browse/EJAB-1533 is fixed via
 the persist-all-pubsub.patch (Thanks Daniel Drake). 
 The buddy-properties are persisted, as seen via ejabberdctl
 dump db.txt (as seen on both CentOS and Debian).
 
 
 
 
 However, very surprisingly, the __get_members_ready_cb still
 receives NOTHING in the failure-debian case  (see
 FAIL-shell.log),
 
 but receives the buddy-properties in pass-CentOScase (see
 PASS-shell.log).
 
 #
 
 
 
 d)
 Most importantly, on both the servers, the Send XML Stream
 log is seen in /var/log/ejabberd/ejabberd.log; however, the
 members-changed signal is seen only in the CentOS-ejabberd
 case, but not in Debian-6-ejabberd case.
 
 
 For brevity, I am also pasting the  Send XML Stream message
 (which happens to be the same on both the  servers) ::
 
 ==
 
 
 =INFO REPORT 2013-01-17 23:46:45 ===
 D(0.360.0:ejabberd_c2s:1561) : Send XML on stream =
 message
 
 from='5ccefd7c37c12600296e0505ad3be79c0476e...@schoolserver.mazaq.org' 
 to='5ccefd7c37c12600296e0505ad3be79c0476e...@schoolserver.mazaq.org/sugar' 
 type='headline'event xmlns='http://jabber.org/protocol/pubsub#event'items 
 node='http://laptop.org/xmpp/buddy-properties'item 
 id='54E6D08D69C42'properties 
 xmlns='http://laptop.org/xmpp/buddy-properties'property 

Re: Difference in behaviour of telepathy-gabble, when ejabberd is used with CentOS and Debian-6

2013-01-20 Thread Jerry Vonau
On Sun, 2013-01-20 at 12:41 -0600, Jerry Vonau wrote:
 On Sun, 2013-01-20 at 13:44 +0530, Ajay Garg wrote:
  Any ideas, please?  :)
  
  
 
 Ok, how about a couple of questions. What version of erlang is
 installed? Did you create the *online* group?
 
 Jerry
 

If I'm reading [1] correctly the underling erlang version is R15, this
might be related to a bug that I filed in Fedora [2].

Jerry

1. http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/ejabberd
2. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=840039


 
  On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Ajay Garg a...@activitycentral.com
  wrote:
  Hi all.
  
  I have been trying to get buddies visible in the
  neighborhood-view, when XOs are communicating via
  ejabberd-server (via telepathy-gabble).
  Following are the two cases ::
  
  
  i)
  Client  :: Sugar (Fedora-18 based) 
  Server :: ejabberd on CentOS (XS-0.7)
  
  In this case, I am able to register the users on the server;
  and receive the  members changed signals (as per the
  attached PASS_telepathy_gabble.log).
  Of course, the buddies are able to see each other too :)
  
  
  ii)
  Client  :: Sugar (Fedora-18 based) 
  Server :: ejabberd on Debian-6
  
  In this case, I am able to register the users on the server;
  but DO NOT receive the members changed signals (as per the
  attached FAIL_telepathy_gabble.log).
  Hence, buddies are not able to see each other.
  
  
  
  Some additional notes ::
  ==
  
  a)
  Both servers are running with the same  ejabberd.cfg file,
  as attached.
  
  
  b)
  On CentOS, following are effective, before starting
  ejabberd ::
   
 setenforce 0
 service iptables
  stop
 service ip6tables
  stop
  
  
  On Debian-6, following are effective, before starting
  ejabberd ::
  
 setenforce 0
 iptables -F
 iptables -X
 iptables -t nat -F
 iptables -t nat
  -X   
 iptables -t mangle
  -F
 iptables -t mangle
  -X
 ip6tables -F
 ip6tables -X
 ip6tables -t mangle
  -F
 ip6tables -t mangle
  -X
  
  
  
  c)
  Both servers are running the same ejabberd codebase (the
  patched version of 2.1.10), containing all the patches in
  
  http://dev.laptop.org/xs/repos/stable/olpc/xs-0.7/source/ejabberd-2.1.10-1.el6.olpc1.src.rpm
(Thanks again Jerry).
  
  More  importantly, the issue of
  https://support.process-one.net/browse/EJAB-1533 is fixed via
  the persist-all-pubsub.patch (Thanks Daniel Drake). 
  The buddy-properties are persisted, as seen via ejabberdctl
  dump db.txt (as seen on both CentOS and Debian).
  
  
  
  
  However, very surprisingly, the __get_members_ready_cb still
  receives NOTHING in the failure-debian case  (see
  FAIL-shell.log),
  
  but receives the buddy-properties in pass-CentOScase (see
  PASS-shell.log).
  
  #
  
  
  
  d)
  Most importantly, on both the servers, the Send XML Stream
  log is seen in /var/log/ejabberd/ejabberd.log; however, the
  members-changed signal is seen only in the CentOS-ejabberd
  case, but not in Debian-6-ejabberd case.
  
  
  For brevity, I am also pasting the  Send XML Stream message
  (which happens to be the same on both the  servers) ::
  
  ==
  
  
  =INFO REPORT 2013-01-17 23:46:45 ===
  D(0.360.0:ejabberd_c2s:1561) : Send XML 

Re: Difference in behaviour of telepathy-gabble, when ejabberd is used with CentOS and Debian-6

2013-01-20 Thread Ajay Garg
On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 12:11 AM, Jerry Vonau jvo...@shaw.ca wrote:

 On Sun, 2013-01-20 at 13:44 +0530, Ajay Garg wrote:
  Any ideas, please?  :)
 
 

 Ok, how about a couple of questions. What version of erlang is
 installed? Did you create the *online* group?


Oops... that was it !! :)

Creating the group did it :) :)


Thanks (yet again) Jerry !!! :) :)




 Jerry


  On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Ajay Garg a...@activitycentral.com
  wrote:
  Hi all.
 
  I have been trying to get buddies visible in the
  neighborhood-view, when XOs are communicating via
  ejabberd-server (via telepathy-gabble).
  Following are the two cases ::
 
 
  i)
  Client  :: Sugar (Fedora-18 based)
  Server :: ejabberd on CentOS (XS-0.7)
 
  In this case, I am able to register the users on the server;
  and receive the  members changed signals (as per the
  attached PASS_telepathy_gabble.log).
  Of course, the buddies are able to see each other too :)
 
 
  ii)
  Client  :: Sugar (Fedora-18 based)
  Server :: ejabberd on Debian-6
 
  In this case, I am able to register the users on the server;
  but DO NOT receive the members changed signals (as per the
  attached FAIL_telepathy_gabble.log).
  Hence, buddies are not able to see each other.
 
 
 
  Some additional notes ::
  ==
 
  a)
  Both servers are running with the same  ejabberd.cfg file,
  as attached.
 
 
  b)
  On CentOS, following are effective, before starting
  ejabberd ::
 
 setenforce 0
 service iptables
  stop
 service ip6tables
  stop
 
 
  On Debian-6, following are effective, before starting
  ejabberd ::
 
 setenforce 0
 iptables -F
 iptables -X
 iptables -t nat -F
 iptables -t nat
  -X
 iptables -t mangle
  -F
 iptables -t mangle
  -X
 ip6tables -F
 ip6tables -X
 ip6tables -t mangle
  -F
 ip6tables -t mangle
  -X
 
 
 
  c)
  Both servers are running the same ejabberd codebase (the
  patched version of 2.1.10), containing all the patches in
 
 http://dev.laptop.org/xs/repos/stable/olpc/xs-0.7/source/ejabberd-2.1.10-1.el6.olpc1.src.rpm
  (Thanks again Jerry).
 
  More  importantly, the issue of
  https://support.process-one.net/browse/EJAB-1533 is fixed via
  the persist-all-pubsub.patch (Thanks Daniel Drake).
  The buddy-properties are persisted, as seen via ejabberdctl
  dump db.txt (as seen on both CentOS and Debian).
 
 
 
 
  However, very surprisingly, the __get_members_ready_cb still
  receives NOTHING in the failure-debian case  (see
  FAIL-shell.log),
 
  but receives the buddy-properties in pass-CentOScase (see
  PASS-shell.log).
 
 #
 
 
 
  d)
  Most importantly, on both the servers, the Send XML Stream
  log is seen in /var/log/ejabberd/ejabberd.log; however, the
  members-changed signal is seen only in the CentOS-ejabberd
  case, but not in Debian-6-ejabberd case.
 
 
  For brevity, I am also pasting the  Send XML Stream message
  (which happens to be the same on both the  servers) ::
 
 ==
 
 
  =INFO REPORT 2013-01-17 23:46:45 ===
  D(0.360.0:ejabberd_c2s:1561) : Send XML on stream =
  message
  from='
 5ccefd7c37c12600296e0505ad3be79c0476e...@schoolserver.mazaq.org' to='
 5ccefd7c37c12600296e0505ad3be79c0476e...@schoolserver.mazaq.org/sugar'
 type='headline'event xmlns='http://jabber.org/protocol/pubsub#event'items
 node='http://laptop.org/xmpp/buddy-properties'item
 id='54E6D08D69C42'properties xmlns='
 http://laptop.org/xmpp/buddy-properties'property name='color'
 type='str'#00A0FF,#9A5200/propertyproperty name='key'
 

Re: [Server-devel] Difference in behaviour of telepathy-gabble, when ejabberd is used with CentOS and Debian-6

2013-01-20 Thread Ajay Garg
Any ideas, please?  :)


On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Ajay Garg a...@activitycentral.com wrote:

 Hi all.

 I have been trying to get buddies visible in the neighborhood-view, when
 XOs are communicating via ejabberd-server (via telepathy-gabble).
 Following are the two cases ::


 i)
 Client  :: Sugar (Fedora-18 based)
 Server :: ejabberd on CentOS (XS-0.7)

 In this case, I am able to register the users on the server; and receive
 the  members changed signals (as per the attached
 PASS_telepathy_gabble.log).
 Of course, the buddies are able to see each other too :)


 ii)
 Client  :: Sugar (Fedora-18 based)
 Server :: ejabberd on Debian-6

 In this case, I am able to register the users on the server; but DO NOT
 receive the members changed signals (as per the attached
 FAIL_telepathy_gabble.log).
 Hence, buddies are not able to see each other.



 Some additional notes ::
 ==

 a)
 Both servers are running with the same  ejabberd.cfg file, as attached.


 b)
 On CentOS, following are effective, before starting ejabberd ::

setenforce 0
service iptables stop
service ip6tables stop


 On Debian-6, following are effective, before starting ejabberd ::

setenforce 0
iptables -F
iptables -X
iptables -t nat -F
iptables -t nat -X
iptables -t mangle -F
iptables -t mangle -X
ip6tables -F
ip6tables -X
ip6tables -t mangle -F
ip6tables -t mangle -X



 c)
 Both servers are running the same ejabberd codebase (the patched version
 of 2.1.10), containing all the patches in

 http://dev.laptop.org/xs/repos/stable/olpc/xs-0.7/source/ejabberd-2.1.10-1.el6.olpc1.src.rpm
 (Thanks again Jerry).

 More  importantly, the issue of
 https://support.process-one.net/browse/EJAB-1533 is fixed via the
 persist-all-pubsub.patch (Thanks Daniel Drake).
 The buddy-properties are persisted, as seen via ejabberdctl dump db.txt
 (as seen on both CentOS and Debian).



 
 However, very surprisingly, the __get_members_ready_cb still receives
 NOTHING in the failure-debian case  (see FAIL-shell.log),

   but receives the buddy-properties in pass-CentOScase (see
 PASS-shell.log).

 #



 d)
 Most importantly, on both the servers, the Send XML Stream log is seen
 in /var/log/ejabberd/ejabberd.log; however, the members-changed signal is
 seen only in the CentOS-ejabberd case, but not in Debian-6-ejabberd case.


 For brevity, I am also pasting the  Send XML Stream message (which
 happens to be the same on both the  servers) ::

 ==


 =INFO REPORT 2013-01-17 23:46:45 ===
 D(0.360.0:ejabberd_c2s:1561) : Send XML on stream = message from='
 5ccefd7c37c12600296e0505ad3be79c0476e...@schoolserver.mazaq.org' to='
 5ccefd7c37c12600296e0505ad3be79c0476e...@schoolserver.mazaq.org/sugar'
 type='headline'event xmlns='http://jabber.org/protocol/pubsub#event'items
 node='http://laptop.org/xmpp/buddy-properties'item
 id='54E6D08D69C42'properties xmlns='
 http://laptop.org/xmpp/buddy-properties'property name='color'
 type='str'#00A0FF,#9A5200/propertyproperty name='key'
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