Fwd: ETA for final 13.1.0 release?
Resent as devel@ is really a more appropriate place for my question. (Apologies for people receiving this twice!). Cheers, Christoph -- Forwarded message -- From: Christoph Derndorfer christoph.derndor...@gmail.com Date: Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 2:22 PM Subject: ETA for final 13.1.0 release? To: Sugar Devel sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org Cc: Mike Lee curious...@gmail.com Hey Daniel and all, I was wondering whether you have an ETA for the final 13.1.0 release? The reason why I'm asking is that I'm heading to Zambia on Saturday evening to give a repair and maintenance workshop at the Lubuto Library Project which Mike has been supporting for a while. Since I'd like to get all their XOs up to 13.1.0 in preparation of Mike's education workshop later in February and local Internet connectivity will likely be limited it would be great if I could bring along the images for XO-1/1.5/1.75 on a USB drive. Thanks, Christoph -- Christoph Derndorfer volunteer, OLPC (Austria) [www.olpc.at] editor, OLPC News [www.olpcnews.com] contributor, TechnikBasteln [www.technikbasteln.net] e-mail: christ...@derndorfer.eu -- Christoph Derndorfer volunteer, OLPC (Austria) [www.olpc.at] editor, OLPC News [www.olpcnews.com] contributor, TechnikBasteln [www.technikbasteln.net] e-mail: christ...@derndorfer.eu ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Fedora-18 ARM release: support for OLPC hardware?
I'm way outside the OLPC Fedora development processes nowadays, which is why I'm asking what may be a dumb question. The Fedora 18 release is finally out for x86 and x64. There's a beta for ARM that supports half a dozen ARM systems. Oddly, in my mind, OLPC is not one of them. It's odd because there are probably more OLPC systems running Fedora than any other ARM hardware. In F17, the ARM release went to GA - General Availability for those half dozen ARM boards, again not for OLPC hardware. See: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Architectures/ARM Is there a good reason that the Fedora secondary architecture release process never builds releases for the OLPC? Or is this omission just an artifact of the history of how OLPC releases have been cut? Presumably the official Fedora release for OLPC ARM hardware could relatively simply use the Gnome user interface. Or even include the version of Sugar that's packaged to live in (x86) Fedora releases. Due to differing release schedules, it would not match the Official OLPC software releases, but that has always been true of Fedora releases, even on x86 based OLPCs. John ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Fedora-18 ARM release: support for OLPC hardware?
Hi, On Mon, Jan 21 2013, John Gilmore wrote: I'm way outside the OLPC Fedora development processes nowadays, which is why I'm asking what may be a dumb question. The Fedora 18 release is finally out for x86 and x64. There's a beta for ARM that supports half a dozen ARM systems. Oddly, in my mind, OLPC is not one of them. It's odd because there are probably more OLPC systems running Fedora than any other ARM hardware. In F17, the ARM release went to GA - General Availability for those half dozen ARM boards, again not for OLPC hardware. Two reasons I can think of: * We (OLPC hackers) have taken on the burden of creating these builds. Our 12.1.0 ARM release is based on Fedora 17, and our 13.1.0 ARM release is based on Fedora 18. We use the Fedora packages directly, other than for packages that we've forked or added. * The systems supported by Fedora all have upstream kernel support, but OLPC's ARM systems do not yet have upstream kernel support. (There's no particular barrier; we just haven't had time to push it ourselves.) - Chris. -- Chris Ball c...@laptop.org http://printf.net/ One Laptop Per Child ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Fedora-18 ARM release: support for OLPC hardware?
On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 10:11 PM, Chris Ball c...@laptop.org wrote: Hi, On Mon, Jan 21 2013, John Gilmore wrote: I'm way outside the OLPC Fedora development processes nowadays, which is why I'm asking what may be a dumb question. The Fedora 18 release is finally out for x86 and x64. There's a beta for ARM that supports half a dozen ARM systems. Oddly, in my mind, OLPC is not one of them. It's odd because there are probably more OLPC systems running Fedora than any other ARM hardware. In F17, the ARM release went to GA - General Availability for those half dozen ARM boards, again not for OLPC hardware. Two reasons I can think of: * We (OLPC hackers) have taken on the burden of creating these builds. Our 12.1.0 ARM release is based on Fedora 17, and our 13.1.0 ARM release is based on Fedora 18. We use the Fedora packages directly, other than for packages that we've forked or added. * The systems supported by Fedora all have upstream kernel support, but OLPC's ARM systems do not yet have upstream kernel support. (There's no particular barrier; we just haven't had time to push it ourselves.) The user space is completely compatible. The reason we don't support the XOs out of the box is mostly kernel based. The two main reasons are: - non complete upstream support. Marvell is supporting all their ARM SoCs via the mvebu platform support with components making it upstream beginning in 3.7 but it's not all there yet. I'm not sure whether OLPC plans on supporting the ARM XO platforms through that or some other way. - Lack of support for standard Fedora kernel update process via grubby for OFW. This is a problem on both x86 and ARM XOs. This is tracked via RHBZ 497398 - Lack of support for an open X driver. Although there is now a project for reverse engineering the Vivante (sp?) driver I have no idea what the state of it is and whether it works with the XO HW. Peter ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel