Re: [support-gang] [Server-devel] 1TB drive of quality open content on XO/XS--won't boot
OLPC kernels do *not* support NTFS (# CONFIG_NTFS_FS is not set). It either should be activated in future builds or use another FS. I believe tha FAT32 (VFAT) can handle big drives and is universal. However it has a number of other problems that may not suit your needs (reliability, permissions etc) --- On Mon, 5/13/13, Braddock bradd...@braddock.com wrote: From: Braddock bradd...@braddock.com Subject: Re: [support-gang] [Server-devel] 1TB drive of quality open content on XO/XS--won't boot To: James Cameron qu...@laptop.org, Holt h...@laptop.org, XS Devel server-de...@lists.laptop.org, Support Gangsters support-g...@laptop.org, Devel's in the Details devel@lists.laptop.org Date: Monday, May 13, 2013, 8:02 AM Hi James I'm using OpenFirmware Q7B26 EC Firmware 0.4.03 I have tried turning the boot flag off on the NTFS partition, but it still dumps me to the OpenFirmware ok prompt. I can reproduce the problem by formatting a USB stick to NTFS and trying to boot with it plugged in. So it is reacting badly to the mere presence of NTFS on USB media. -braddock On 05/12/2013 03:40 PM, James Cameron wrote: On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 03:44:18PM -0400, Holt wrote: Is there a way to boot a large USB hard drive attached to an XO? At our XS Community Sprint this week outside Toronto, we've been unable to boot XOs with the 700+ GB drive(s) containing very polished open content provided by http://internet-in-a-box.org The XOs (eg. XO-4 etc) refuse to auto-boot, leaving the screen at the OK prompt. FYI our 1TB disk is a nearly complete snapshot of: * Wikipedia-in-41-languages, thumbnails for most all images * OpenStreetMap for the whole world cached at all zoom levels for fast display * Gutenberg Prjct's full collection of 40,000+ books, images * Khan Academy's ~4000 video classes, etc Does firmware currently block the mounting of all large USB drives -- NTFS in this case if not other filesystems? Open Firmware tries the first partition that is marked bootable. Exactly what it does next depends on the firmware version, but clearly in your case it stops booting. Might there be a workaround so isolated XO servers in Haiti (etc!) can hopefully auto-boot with this quality free content? Turn off the bootable flag using a partitioning program, ensure you are using latest firmware Q7B30, and attach a serial console for further debugging. If you can tell me how to reproduce the symptom, then I'm quite sure I can get it fixed. I certainly can't afford to download 700 GB or 1 TB to do that though. I'm happy to work with whoever has the drive and an XO-4. The nature and value of the content has no relationship to the diagnosis process, but is interesting regardless. ___ support-gang mailing list support-g...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/support-gang ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [support-gang] [Server-devel] 1TB drive of quality open content on XO/XS--won't boot
NTFS is supported in OLPC builds, just not by the OS Kernel itself. The ntfs-3g filesystem in userspace package can be used to mount NTFS drives. So you should be able to use a command like mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/ntfs_partition /mnt/mountpoint if Sugar or GNOME do not automatically mount the filesystem for you. In general many Linux distributions seem to currently consider using ntfs-3g a better approach than using the kernel driver. The in-kernel driver still may not have full NTFS write support, while ntfs-3g does. On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 9:32 AM, Yioryos Asprobounitis mavrot...@yahoo.comwrote: OLPC kernels do *not* support NTFS (# CONFIG_NTFS_FS is not set). It either should be activated in future builds or use another FS. I believe tha FAT32 (VFAT) can handle big drives and is universal. However it has a number of other problems that may not suit your needs (reliability, permissions etc) --- On Mon, 5/13/13, Braddock bradd...@braddock.com wrote: From: Braddock bradd...@braddock.com Subject: Re: [support-gang] [Server-devel] 1TB drive of quality open content on XO/XS--won't boot To: James Cameron qu...@laptop.org, Holt h...@laptop.org, XS Devel server-de...@lists.laptop.org, Support Gangsters support-g...@laptop.org, Devel's in the Details devel@lists.laptop.org Date: Monday, May 13, 2013, 8:02 AM Hi James I'm using OpenFirmware Q7B26 EC Firmware 0.4.03 I have tried turning the boot flag off on the NTFS partition, but it still dumps me to the OpenFirmware ok prompt. I can reproduce the problem by formatting a USB stick to NTFS and trying to boot with it plugged in. So it is reacting badly to the mere presence of NTFS on USB media. -braddock On 05/12/2013 03:40 PM, James Cameron wrote: On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 03:44:18PM -0400, Holt wrote: Is there a way to boot a large USB hard drive attached to an XO? At our XS Community Sprint this week outside Toronto, we've been unable to boot XOs with the 700+ GB drive(s) containing very polished open content provided by http://internet-in-a-box.org The XOs (eg. XO-4 etc) refuse to auto-boot, leaving the screen at the OK prompt. FYI our 1TB disk is a nearly complete snapshot of: * Wikipedia-in-41-languages, thumbnails for most all images * OpenStreetMap for the whole world cached at all zoom levels for fast display * Gutenberg Prjct's full collection of 40,000+ books, images * Khan Academy's ~4000 video classes, etc Does firmware currently block the mounting of all large USB drives -- NTFS in this case if not other filesystems? Open Firmware tries the first partition that is marked bootable. Exactly what it does next depends on the firmware version, but clearly in your case it stops booting. Might there be a workaround so isolated XO servers in Haiti (etc!) can hopefully auto-boot with this quality free content? Turn off the bootable flag using a partitioning program, ensure you are using latest firmware Q7B30, and attach a serial console for further debugging. If you can tell me how to reproduce the symptom, then I'm quite sure I can get it fixed. I certainly can't afford to download 700 GB or 1 TB to do that though. I'm happy to work with whoever has the drive and an XO-4. The nature and value of the content has no relationship to the diagnosis process, but is interesting regardless. ___ support-gang mailing list support-g...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/support-gang ___ support-gang mailing list support-g...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/support-gang ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [support-gang] [Server-devel] 1TB drive of quality open content on XO/XS--won't boot
Indeed...but this is not an option as the XS=XO+TB needs to auto-boot after daily power failures in the developing world :) On 5/13/2013 9:53 AM, Samuel Greenfeld wrote: NTFS is supported in OLPC builds, just not by the OS Kernel itself. The ntfs-3g filesystem in userspace package can be used to mount NTFS drives. So you should be able to use a command like mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/ntfs_partition /mnt/mountpoint if Sugar or GNOME do not automatically mount the filesystem for you. In general many Linux distributions seem to currently consider using ntfs-3g a better approach than using the kernel driver. The in-kernel driver still may not have full NTFS write support, while ntfs-3g does. On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 9:32 AM, Yioryos Asprobounitis mavrot...@yahoo.com mailto:mavrot...@yahoo.com wrote: OLPC kernels do *not* support NTFS (# CONFIG_NTFS_FS is not set). It either should be activated in future builds or use another FS. I believe tha FAT32 (VFAT) can handle big drives and is universal. However it has a number of other problems that may not suit your needs (reliability, permissions etc) --- On Mon, 5/13/13, Braddock bradd...@braddock.com mailto:bradd...@braddock.com wrote: From: Braddock bradd...@braddock.com mailto:bradd...@braddock.com Subject: Re: [support-gang] [Server-devel] 1TB drive of quality open content on XO/XS--won't boot To: James Cameron qu...@laptop.org mailto:qu...@laptop.org, Holt h...@laptop.org mailto:h...@laptop.org, XS Devel server-de...@lists.laptop.org mailto:server-de...@lists.laptop.org, Support Gangsters support-g...@laptop.org mailto:support-g...@laptop.org, Devel's in the Details devel@lists.laptop.org mailto:devel@lists.laptop.org Date: Monday, May 13, 2013, 8:02 AM Hi James I'm using OpenFirmware Q7B26 EC Firmware 0.4.03 I have tried turning the boot flag off on the NTFS partition, but it still dumps me to the OpenFirmware ok prompt. I can reproduce the problem by formatting a USB stick to NTFS and trying to boot with it plugged in. So it is reacting badly to the mere presence of NTFS on USB media. -braddock On 05/12/2013 03:40 PM, James Cameron wrote: On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 03:44:18PM -0400, Holt wrote: Is there a way to boot a large USB hard drive attached to an XO? At our XS Community Sprint this week outside Toronto, we've been unable to boot XOs with the 700+ GB drive(s) containing very polished open content provided by http://internet-in-a-box.org The XOs (eg. XO-4 etc) refuse to auto-boot, leaving the screen at the OK prompt. FYI our 1TB disk is a nearly complete snapshot of: * Wikipedia-in-41-languages, thumbnails for most all images * OpenStreetMap for the whole world cached at all zoom levels for fast display * Gutenberg Prjct's full collection of 40,000+ books, images * Khan Academy's ~4000 video classes, etc Does firmware currently block the mounting of all large USB drives -- NTFS in this case if not other filesystems? Open Firmware tries the first partition that is marked bootable. Exactly what it does next depends on the firmware version, but clearly in your case it stops booting. Might there be a workaround so isolated XO servers in Haiti (etc!) can hopefully auto-boot with this quality free content? Turn off the bootable flag using a partitioning program, ensure you are using latest firmware Q7B30, and attach a serial console for further debugging. If you can tell me how to reproduce the symptom, then I'm quite sure I can get it fixed. I certainly can't afford to download 700 GB or 1 TB to do that though. I'm happy to work with whoever has the drive and an XO-4. The nature and value of the content has no relationship to the diagnosis process, but is interesting regardless. ___ support-gang mailing list support-g...@lists.laptop.org mailto:support-g...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/support-gang ___ support-gang mailing list support-g...@lists.laptop.org mailto:support-g...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/support-gang -- Help kids everywhere map their world, at http://olpcMAP.net ! ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [support-gang] [Server-devel] 1TB drive of quality open content on XO/XS--won't boot
Why? Can't be in a script? Gonzalo On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 11:43 AM, Holt h...@laptop.org wrote: Indeed...but this is not an option as the XS=XO+TB needs to auto-boot after daily power failures in the developing world :) On 5/13/2013 9:53 AM, Samuel Greenfeld wrote: NTFS is supported in OLPC builds, just not by the OS Kernel itself. The ntfs-3g filesystem in userspace package can be used to mount NTFS drives. So you should be able to use a command like mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/ntfs_partition /mnt/mountpoint if Sugar or GNOME do not automatically mount the filesystem for you. In general many Linux distributions seem to currently consider using ntfs-3g a better approach than using the kernel driver. The in-kernel driver still may not have full NTFS write support, while ntfs-3g does. On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 9:32 AM, Yioryos Asprobounitis mavrot...@yahoo.com wrote: OLPC kernels do *not* support NTFS (# CONFIG_NTFS_FS is not set). It either should be activated in future builds or use another FS. I believe tha FAT32 (VFAT) can handle big drives and is universal. However it has a number of other problems that may not suit your needs (reliability, permissions etc) --- On Mon, 5/13/13, Braddock bradd...@braddock.com wrote: From: Braddock bradd...@braddock.com Subject: Re: [support-gang] [Server-devel] 1TB drive of quality open content on XO/XS--won't boot To: James Cameron qu...@laptop.org, Holt h...@laptop.org, XS Devel server-de...@lists.laptop.org, Support Gangsters support-g...@laptop.org, Devel's in the Details devel@lists.laptop.org Date: Monday, May 13, 2013, 8:02 AM Hi James I'm using OpenFirmware Q7B26 EC Firmware 0.4.03 I have tried turning the boot flag off on the NTFS partition, but it still dumps me to the OpenFirmware ok prompt. I can reproduce the problem by formatting a USB stick to NTFS and trying to boot with it plugged in. So it is reacting badly to the mere presence of NTFS on USB media. -braddock On 05/12/2013 03:40 PM, James Cameron wrote: On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 03:44:18PM -0400, Holt wrote: Is there a way to boot a large USB hard drive attached to an XO? At our XS Community Sprint this week outside Toronto, we've been unable to boot XOs with the 700+ GB drive(s) containing very polished open content provided by http://internet-in-a-box.org The XOs (eg. XO-4 etc) refuse to auto-boot, leaving the screen at the OK prompt. FYI our 1TB disk is a nearly complete snapshot of: * Wikipedia-in-41-languages, thumbnails for most all images * OpenStreetMap for the whole world cached at all zoom levels for fast display * Gutenberg Prjct's full collection of 40,000+ books, images * Khan Academy's ~4000 video classes, etc Does firmware currently block the mounting of all large USB drives -- NTFS in this case if not other filesystems? Open Firmware tries the first partition that is marked bootable. Exactly what it does next depends on the firmware version, but clearly in your case it stops booting. Might there be a workaround so isolated XO servers in Haiti (etc!) can hopefully auto-boot with this quality free content? Turn off the bootable flag using a partitioning program, ensure you are using latest firmware Q7B30, and attach a serial console for further debugging. If you can tell me how to reproduce the symptom, then I'm quite sure I can get it fixed. I certainly can't afford to download 700 GB or 1 TB to do that though. I'm happy to work with whoever has the drive and an XO-4. The nature and value of the content has no relationship to the diagnosis process, but is interesting regardless. ___ support-gang mailing list support-g...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/support-gang ___ support-gang mailing list support-g...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/support-gang -- Help kids everywhere map their world, at http://olpcMAP.net ! ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [support-gang] [Server-devel] 1TB drive of quality open content on XO/XS--won't boot
On 5/13/2013 10:45 AM, Gonzalo Odiard wrote: Why? Can't be in a script? We can't run a script if we cannot boot =) (Due to firmware incompatibility w/ NTFS USB drives, forcing us to the http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Ok prompt, preventing auto-boot) Gonzalo On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 11:43 AM, Holt h...@laptop.org mailto:h...@laptop.org wrote: Indeed...but this is not an option as the XS=XO+TB needs to auto-boot after daily power failures in the developing world :) On 5/13/2013 9:53 AM, Samuel Greenfeld wrote: NTFS is supported in OLPC builds, just not by the OS Kernel itself. The ntfs-3g filesystem in userspace package can be used to mount NTFS drives. So you should be able to use a command like mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/ntfs_partition /mnt/mountpoint if Sugar or GNOME do not automatically mount the filesystem for you. In general many Linux distributions seem to currently consider using ntfs-3g a better approach than using the kernel driver. The in-kernel driver still may not have full NTFS write support, while ntfs-3g does. On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 9:32 AM, Yioryos Asprobounitis mavrot...@yahoo.com mailto:mavrot...@yahoo.com wrote: OLPC kernels do *not* support NTFS (# CONFIG_NTFS_FS is not set). It either should be activated in future builds or use another FS. I believe tha FAT32 (VFAT) can handle big drives and is universal. However it has a number of other problems that may not suit your needs (reliability, permissions etc) --- On Mon, 5/13/13, Braddock bradd...@braddock.com mailto:bradd...@braddock.com wrote: From: Braddock bradd...@braddock.com mailto:bradd...@braddock.com Subject: Re: [support-gang] [Server-devel] 1TB drive of quality open content on XO/XS--won't boot To: James Cameron qu...@laptop.org mailto:qu...@laptop.org, Holt h...@laptop.org mailto:h...@laptop.org, XS Devel server-de...@lists.laptop.org mailto:server-de...@lists.laptop.org, Support Gangsters support-g...@laptop.org mailto:support-g...@laptop.org, Devel's in the Details devel@lists.laptop.org mailto:devel@lists.laptop.org Date: Monday, May 13, 2013, 8:02 AM Hi James I'm using OpenFirmware Q7B26 EC Firmware 0.4.03 I have tried turning the boot flag off on the NTFS partition, but it still dumps me to the OpenFirmware ok prompt. I can reproduce the problem by formatting a USB stick to NTFS and trying to boot with it plugged in. So it is reacting badly to the mere presence of NTFS on USB media. -braddock On 05/12/2013 03:40 PM, James Cameron wrote: On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 03:44:18PM -0400, Holt wrote: Is there a way to boot a large USB hard drive attached to an XO? At our XS Community Sprint this week outside Toronto, we've been unable to boot XOs with the 700+ GB drive(s) containing very polished open content provided by http://internet-in-a-box.org The XOs (eg. XO-4 etc) refuse to auto-boot, leaving the screen at the OK prompt. FYI our 1TB disk is a nearly complete snapshot of: * Wikipedia-in-41-languages, thumbnails for most all images * OpenStreetMap for the whole world cached at all zoom levels for fast display * Gutenberg Prjct's full collection of 40,000+ books, images * Khan Academy's ~4000 video classes, etc Does firmware currently block the mounting of all large USB drives -- NTFS in this case if not other filesystems? Open Firmware tries the first partition that is marked bootable. Exactly what it does next depends on the firmware version, but clearly in your case it stops booting. Might there be a workaround so isolated XO servers in Haiti (etc!) can hopefully auto-boot with this quality free content? Turn off the bootable flag using a partitioning program, ensure you are using latest firmware Q7B30, and attach a serial console for further debugging. If you can tell me how to reproduce the symptom, then I'm quite sure I can get it fixed. I certainly can't afford to download 700 GB or 1 TB to do that though. I'm happy to work with whoever has the drive and an XO-4. The nature and value of the content has no relationship to the diagnosis process, but is interesting regardless.
Re: [support-gang] [Server-devel] 1TB drive of quality open content on XO/XS--won't boot
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 11:58 AM, Holt h...@laptop.org wrote: On 5/13/2013 10:45 AM, Gonzalo Odiard wrote: Why? Can't be in a script? We can't run a script if we cannot boot =) (Due to firmware incompatibility w/ NTFS USB drives, forcing us to the http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Ok prompt, preventing auto-boot) Of course :) That need be solved. Gonzalo On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 11:43 AM, Holt h...@laptop.org wrote: Indeed...but this is not an option as the XS=XO+TB needs to auto-boot after daily power failures in the developing world :) On 5/13/2013 9:53 AM, Samuel Greenfeld wrote: NTFS is supported in OLPC builds, just not by the OS Kernel itself. The ntfs-3g filesystem in userspace package can be used to mount NTFS drives. So you should be able to use a command like mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/ntfs_partition /mnt/mountpoint if Sugar or GNOME do not automatically mount the filesystem for you. In general many Linux distributions seem to currently consider using ntfs-3g a better approach than using the kernel driver. The in-kernel driver still may not have full NTFS write support, while ntfs-3g does. On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 9:32 AM, Yioryos Asprobounitis mavrot...@yahoo.com wrote: OLPC kernels do *not* support NTFS (# CONFIG_NTFS_FS is not set). It either should be activated in future builds or use another FS. I believe tha FAT32 (VFAT) can handle big drives and is universal. However it has a number of other problems that may not suit your needs (reliability, permissions etc) --- On Mon, 5/13/13, Braddock bradd...@braddock.com wrote: From: Braddock bradd...@braddock.com Subject: Re: [support-gang] [Server-devel] 1TB drive of quality open content on XO/XS--won't boot To: James Cameron qu...@laptop.org, Holt h...@laptop.org, XS Devel server-de...@lists.laptop.org, Support Gangsters support-g...@laptop.org, Devel's in the Details devel@lists.laptop.org Date: Monday, May 13, 2013, 8:02 AM Hi James I'm using OpenFirmware Q7B26 EC Firmware 0.4.03 I have tried turning the boot flag off on the NTFS partition, but it still dumps me to the OpenFirmware ok prompt. I can reproduce the problem by formatting a USB stick to NTFS and trying to boot with it plugged in. So it is reacting badly to the mere presence of NTFS on USB media. -braddock On 05/12/2013 03:40 PM, James Cameron wrote: On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 03:44:18PM -0400, Holt wrote: Is there a way to boot a large USB hard drive attached to an XO? At our XS Community Sprint this week outside Toronto, we've been unable to boot XOs with the 700+ GB drive(s) containing very polished open content provided by http://internet-in-a-box.org The XOs (eg. XO-4 etc) refuse to auto-boot, leaving the screen at the OK prompt. FYI our 1TB disk is a nearly complete snapshot of: * Wikipedia-in-41-languages, thumbnails for most all images * OpenStreetMap for the whole world cached at all zoom levels for fast display * Gutenberg Prjct's full collection of 40,000+ books, images * Khan Academy's ~4000 video classes, etc Does firmware currently block the mounting of all large USB drives -- NTFS in this case if not other filesystems? Open Firmware tries the first partition that is marked bootable. Exactly what it does next depends on the firmware version, but clearly in your case it stops booting. Might there be a workaround so isolated XO servers in Haiti (etc!) can hopefully auto-boot with this quality free content? Turn off the bootable flag using a partitioning program, ensure you are using latest firmware Q7B30, and attach a serial console for further debugging. If you can tell me how to reproduce the symptom, then I'm quite sure I can get it fixed. I certainly can't afford to download 700 GB or 1 TB to do that though. I'm happy to work with whoever has the drive and an XO-4. The nature and value of the content has no relationship to the diagnosis process, but is interesting regardless. ___ support-gang mailing list support-g...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/support-gang ___ support-gang mailing list support-g...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/support-gang -- Help kids everywhere map their world, at http://olpcMAP.net ! ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel -- Help kids everywhere map their world, at http://olpcMAP.net ! ___ support-gang mailing list support-g...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/support-gang ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org
Re: [support-gang] [Server-devel] 1TB drive of quality open content on XO/XS--won't boot
On May 13, 2013 10:32 AM, Yioryos Asprobounitis mavrot...@yahoo.com wrote: OLPC kernels do *not* support NTFS (# CONFIG_NTFS_FS is not set). It either should be activated in future builds or use another FS. I believe tha FAT32 (VFAT) can handle big drives and is universal. However it has a number of other problems that may not suit your needs (reliability, permissions etc) Why not UDF? ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
13.2.0 development build 6 released
Hi, http://wiki.laptop.org/go/13.2.0 http://build.laptop.org/13.2.0/os6 TamTam updated to v67: fixes audio crackle on XO-4 (#12651) JournalShare updated to v5 TurtleBlocks updated to v176 The XO-4 bluetooth driver is now loaded, it coexists happily with the wireless driver (#12657) XO-4 audio recording works cleanly again (#12400) XO-4 with 8787 no longer wakes up on all multicast frames (#12605) Spanish high school keyboard works again (#12645) Thanks for testing feedback! Daniel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: 13.2.0 development build 6 released
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 10:19 AM, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote: Hi, http://wiki.laptop.org/go/13.2.0 http://build.laptop.org/13.2.0/os6 Sorry, made a silly mistake in a kernel patch, and XO-4 audio is not working as a result. To fix: yum update kernel Daniel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
13.2.0 schedule update
Hi, Development on 13.2.0 is going well, we are completing all of the things we planned to work on. We have defined a schedule: May 23 - packages and activities frozen, first signed release candidate published, only fixes to significant regressions taken beyond this point. June 13 - final 13.2.0 release. http://wiki.laptop.org/go/13.2.0/Release_plan has been updated. Thanks for testing feedback! Daniel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Server-devel] 1TB drive of quality open content on XO/XS--won't boot
Thanks! I acknowledge the boot flag removal did nothing. This points me away from the part of Open Firmware that recognises that flag. I'm sure I can fix it as soon as I can duplicate the problem. But I've been unable to duplicate, possibly because I don't have the same NTFS software as you. I'd like to check the partitioning as well as the filesystem, because Open Firmware tries both in sequence. It might be reacting to the partition table rather than the filesystem. For that I will need a disk image, but as small as possible because I'm quite remote. Could you please pick the smallest USB available drive you have, (1) erase it thoroughly, (2) format it to NTFS in the way you usually do, without adding any files, then (3) prepare an image, (4) compress it with gzip or zip, (5) check that the USB drive does cause the problem still, and (6) provide me with a link to download? If anybody else has the time to do this, feel free to contribute. I've raised a ticket to track the problem: http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/12678 Some suggestions for capturing the image: 1. to erase a USB drive thoroughly, using Open Firmware, see http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Forth_Lesson_23#erase_a_device or in Linux use sudo cat /dev/zero /dev/YOUR_DEVICE where YOUR_DEVICE is the name that Linux has chosen for it, 2. (no suggestion), 3. to prepare an image on Linux, use sudo cat /dev/YOUR_DEVICE image, 4. to compress, use gzip image, 5. checking it after making the image ensures that any changes made accidentally by Open Firmware are not included in the image, 6. attaching the image to the ticket may be helpful if you don't have any public place to leave it. (and a comment, the support for NTFS in OLPC OS kernel is not pertinent to the problem I wish to solve.) -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Server-devel] 1TB drive of quality open content on XO/XS--won't boot
Hi James I'm using OpenFirmware Q7B26 EC Firmware 0.4.03 I have tried turning the boot flag off on the NTFS partition, but it still dumps me to the OpenFirmware ok prompt. I can reproduce the problem by formatting a USB stick to NTFS and trying to boot with it plugged in. So it is reacting badly to the mere presence of NTFS on USB media. -braddock On 05/12/2013 03:40 PM, James Cameron wrote: On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 03:44:18PM -0400, Holt wrote: Is there a way to boot a large USB hard drive attached to an XO? At our XS Community Sprint this week outside Toronto, we've been unable to boot XOs with the 700+ GB drive(s) containing very polished open content provided by http://internet-in-a-box.org The XOs (eg. XO-4 etc) refuse to auto-boot, leaving the screen at the OK prompt. FYI our 1TB disk is a nearly complete snapshot of: * Wikipedia-in-41-languages, thumbnails for most all images * OpenStreetMap for the whole world cached at all zoom levels for fast display * Gutenberg Prjct's full collection of 40,000+ books, images * Khan Academy's ~4000 video classes, etc Does firmware currently block the mounting of all large USB drives -- NTFS in this case if not other filesystems? Open Firmware tries the first partition that is marked bootable. Exactly what it does next depends on the firmware version, but clearly in your case it stops booting. Might there be a workaround so isolated XO servers in Haiti (etc!) can hopefully auto-boot with this quality free content? Turn off the bootable flag using a partitioning program, ensure you are using latest firmware Q7B30, and attach a serial console for further debugging. If you can tell me how to reproduce the symptom, then I'm quite sure I can get it fixed. I certainly can't afford to download 700 GB or 1 TB to do that though. I'm happy to work with whoever has the drive and an XO-4. The nature and value of the content has no relationship to the diagnosis process, but is interesting regardless. ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
