Re: [Sugar-devel] The quest for data

2014-01-03 Thread Martin Abente
Hello Sameer, I totally agree we should join efforts for a visualization solution, but, personally, my main concern is still a basic one: what are the important questions we should be asking? And how can we answer these questions reliably? Even though most of us have experience in deployments

Re: [Sugar-devel] The quest for data

2014-01-03 Thread Sameer Verma
On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 4:15 AM, Martin Abente martin.abente.lah...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Sameer, I totally agree we should join efforts for a visualization solution, but, personally, my main concern is still a basic one: what are the important questions we should be asking? And how can we

Re: [Sugar-devel] The quest for data

2014-01-03 Thread James Cameron
Metrics can direct action. Unfortunately, in the absence of meaningful metrics, the meaningless metrics will also direct action. One of the assertions inherent in OLPC is that merely using a device can have an effect on a brain, regardless of what activities are used. In the data listed, I

Re: [Sugar-devel] The quest for data

2014-01-03 Thread Sameer Verma
On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 2:23 PM, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: Metrics can direct action. Unfortunately, in the absence of meaningful metrics, the meaningless metrics will also direct action. True. In fact, the reliability of the whole thing is dependent on the reliability of the

Re: [Server-devel] [XSCE] Re: a kernel for our solidrun protos?

2014-01-03 Thread George Hunt
On our skype call Thursday, Jon suggested using the XO4 config file as a base for getting all the needed kernel capability. And James suggested looking at the upstream kernel conf. In any case I'll need to understand, and merge in, whatever special conig Rebeeh put in for the SOC in the Cubox. I

Re: [Server-devel] [XSCE] Re: a kernel for our solidrun protos?

2014-01-03 Thread James Cameron
On Fri, Jan 03, 2014 at 06:47:25PM -0500, George Hunt wrote: Can I ask someone to email me the XO4 /boot/conf* file. I'm not at home, and I didn't bring an ARM XO with me to California. I would love to get XSCE to load, without erroring out, on a Cubox. Link rather than mail.

Re: [Server-devel] [XSCE] Re: a kernel for our solidrun protos?

2014-01-03 Thread George Hunt
Thanks James On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 7:06 PM, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: On Fri, Jan 03, 2014 at 06:47:25PM -0500, George Hunt wrote: Can I ask someone to email me the XO4 /boot/conf* file. I'm not at home, and I didn't bring an ARM XO with me to California. I would love to

Re: [Server-devel] [XSCE] Re: a kernel for our solidrun protos?

2014-01-03 Thread George Hunt
Jon, Do you have a github url that includes the changes that you have made to 3.10.17 -- which I assume you lifted from http://git.freescale.com/git/cgit.cgi/imx/linux-2.6-imx.git/tag/?id=rel_imx_3.10.17_1.0.0_beta . Now that Tim is scheduled to get his Cubox's, it seems like we should be aiming

Re: [Server-devel] [XSCE] Re: a kernel for our solidrun protos?

2014-01-03 Thread Sameer Verma
On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 3:47 PM, George Hunt georgejh...@gmail.com wrote: On our skype call Thursday, Jon suggested using the XO4 config file as a base for getting all the needed kernel capability. And James suggested looking at the upstream kernel conf. In any case I'll need to understand,

Re: [Server-devel] [XSCE] Re: a kernel for our solidrun protos?

2014-01-03 Thread Adam Holt
Thanks Sameer, fyi George's XO-4 should arrive by Tues. On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 9:31 PM, Sameer Verma sve...@sfsu.edu wrote: On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 3:47 PM, George Hunt georgejh...@gmail.com wrote: On our skype call Thursday, Jon suggested using the XO4 config file as a base for getting all

Re: [Server-devel] [Sugar-devel] The quest for data

2014-01-03 Thread Sameer Verma
On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 2:23 PM, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: Metrics can direct action. Unfortunately, in the absence of meaningful metrics, the meaningless metrics will also direct action. True. In fact, the reliability of the whole thing is dependent on the reliability of the