Re: [Sugar-devel] seeking help to enable nepali keyboard input for XO-4

2014-06-16 Thread Basanta Shrestha
On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 3:20 PM, James Cameron wrote: > On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 01:54:19PM +0545, Basanta Shrestha wrote: >> Hi all, >> We are planning on ordering the next lot of XO-4s and I need some >> suggestions on which keyboard model to choose -membrane or >> hard/clicky one. > > I think i

Re: [Sugar-devel] seeking help to enable nepali keyboard input for XO-4

2014-06-16 Thread Sameer Verma
On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 6:19 PM, John Watlington wrote: > > On Jun 16, 2014, at 9:05 PM, Walter Bender wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 9:03 PM, John Watlington wrote: >> >> >> Walter, >>You remember correctly. The hard/clicky/crunchy keyboards are not >> rated >> for as long a lifetime as

Re: [Sugar-devel] seeking help to enable nepali keyboard input for XO-4

2014-06-16 Thread John Watlington
Sameer, We made a tooling change to improve that feeling --- we increased the chamfer around the key openings so that if you miss the key slightly, your finger slides into the opening more easily. Unfortunately, this didn't go into production until the XO-4 hit production. Thanks for pointing

Re: [Sugar-devel] seeking help to enable nepali keyboard input for XO-4

2014-06-16 Thread John Watlington
On Jun 16, 2014, at 9:05 PM, Walter Bender wrote: > On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 9:03 PM, John Watlington wrote: > > Walter, >You remember correctly. The hard/clicky/crunchy keyboards are not rated > for as long a lifetime as the membrane/chewy keyboards. While the membrane > keyboard design w

Re: [Sugar-devel] seeking help to enable nepali keyboard input for XO-4

2014-06-16 Thread Sameer Verma
On a related note, I was curious about deployment experiences with the new membrane design with plastic grid in between keys. Although this does help with premature peeling of keys, I've always had trouble with these keyboards - the outer edges of my fingers get in the way of a full key depress. Th

Re: [Sugar-devel] seeking help to enable nepali keyboard input for XO-4

2014-06-16 Thread Walter Bender
On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 9:03 PM, John Watlington wrote: > > Walter, >You remember correctly. The hard/clicky/crunchy keyboards are not rated > for as long a lifetime as the membrane/chewy keyboards. While the > membrane > keyboard design was tested to 5 million key presses, IIRC the clicky

Re: [Sugar-devel] seeking help to enable nepali keyboard input for XO-4

2014-06-16 Thread John Watlington
Walter, You remember correctly. The hard/clicky/crunchy keyboards are not rated for as long a lifetime as the membrane/chewy keyboards. While the membrane keyboard design was tested to 5 million key presses, IIRC the clicky keyboard is only rated to 1 million key presses. (On the other han

Re: [Sugar-devel] seeking help to enable nepali keyboard input for XO-4

2014-06-16 Thread James Cameron
I have no such data, sorry. On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 07:13:48AM -0400, Walter Bender wrote: > James, > > Do we have any data re the mechanical > reliability/durability/repairability of the "hard/clicky" keyboards? > We do know that although there were some issues with membrane > pealing (presumabl

Re: [Sugar-devel] seeking help to enable nepali keyboard input for XO-4

2014-06-16 Thread Walter Bender
James, Do we have any data re the mechanical reliability/durability/repairability of the "hard/clicky" keyboards? We do know that although there were some issues with membrane pealing (presumably resolved with the newer design) there numerous ingenious local repairs such that most are still workin

Re: [Sugar-devel] seeking help to enable nepali keyboard input for XO-4

2014-06-16 Thread James Cameron
On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 01:54:19PM +0545, Basanta Shrestha wrote: > Hi all, > We are planning on ordering the next lot of XO-4s and I need some > suggestions on which keyboard model to choose -membrane or > hard/clicky one. I think it is great to seek input from the community, but don't forget to

Re: [Sugar-devel] seeking help to enable nepali keyboard input for XO-4

2014-06-16 Thread Basanta Shrestha
Hi all, We are planning on ordering the next lot of XO-4s and I need some suggestions on which keyboard model to choose -membrane or hard/clicky one. We had membrane one for our first lot and keyboard switching was very convenient on that model. One reason not to choose hard/clicky one is that it