Windows XP on XO-1, XO-1.5

2015-01-27 Thread Ed McNierney
Windows XP on the XO-1 loads and works just about the same as on any other 
machine.  Microsoft did the implementation, primarily by replacing Open 
Firmware with Insyde BIOS, a standard proprietary x86 PC BIOS.  There’s nothing 
you’d learn from it that you wouldn’t learn from studying XP booting on any 
other PC.

Windows XP on XO-1.5 was made available in a dual-boot configuration, 
supporting Sugar and XP.  That work was done by OLPC, mainly by Mitch Bradley 
and me, and the system booted from Open Firmware.  The Open Firmware work 
consisted of adding support for required PC BIOS interfaces, and much of the 
rest of the technical work involved supporting Microsoft’s modifications to 
allow XP to be booted from removable media (a card in the external SD slot).  
Microsoft did not support booting XP from removable media, and at the time the 
XO-1.5 was the only machine that could do so - as far as I know, that’s still 
the case.  But there is nothing to learn there other than how Mitch and I 
implemented Microsoft’s cryptic and often unhelpful suggestions to get it to 
work.  In particular, XP on the XO-1.5 is locked to a specific SD card 
signature so no other make and/or model of SD card would boot.  Reasonable 
effort went into that fairly useless exercise.

And as Paul says, in each case these machines were made available for initial 
trials by a specific customer and were never generally available or widely 
produced.

- Ed

> On Jan 27, 2015, at 2:08 PM, Paul Fox  wrote:
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> lucia wrote:
>> Hi:
>> 
>> I subscribe to Mike's question.
>> "Don't hate me people, but I am also interested in finding a copy of Windows
>>> XP for XO-1 to try and learn about how it works and loads on the XO.
>>> Thanks,"
> 
> windows for the XO-1 was never publicly available, and was never 
> deployed beyond initial trials by the customer who wanted it.
> 
>> 
>> Furthermore, (sorry for the pro's here):  I understand that Sugar GUI sits
>> on top of Linux OS, but if somebody wants to develop something in a Windows
>> 8.1 environment (I'm not a converted to Microsoft  or any other OS), does
>> he/she have to go back to the command line?
> 
> i don't really understand the question, but if you want to know how to
> do sugar development on non-OLPC platforms, you should ask on the
> sugar mailing list:
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> paul
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Re: selinux

2015-01-27 Thread Paul Fox
tim wrote:
 > I need to determine the state of selinux on an xo4 running 32014o4.zd.  I 

nonexistent.  it's not in the kernel.

 > notice that /etc/selinux/config does not exist.  Can someone tell me what is 
 > the best way to determine whether selinux is disabled and if not if it is 
 > permissive? 

you can "gunzip -c /proc/config.gz | grep SECURITY" to see that
no security options are enabled.  i'm not sure what "and if not if it is
permissive" means.

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Re: Devel Digest, Vol 106, Issue 2

2015-01-27 Thread Paul Fox
please post messages with descriptive subject lines.

lucia wrote:
 > Hi:
 > 
 > I subscribe to Mike's question.
 > "Don't hate me people, but I am also interested in finding a copy of Windows
 > > XP for XO-1 to try and learn about how it works and loads on the XO.
 > > Thanks,"

windows for the XO-1 was never publicly available, and was never 
deployed beyond initial trials by the customer who wanted it.

 > 
 > Furthermore, (sorry for the pro's here):  I understand that Sugar GUI sits
 > on top of Linux OS, but if somebody wants to develop something in a Windows
 > 8.1 environment (I'm not a converted to Microsoft  or any other OS), does
 > he/she have to go back to the command line?

i don't really understand the question, but if you want to know how to
do sugar development on non-OLPC platforms, you should ask on the
sugar mailing list:
http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel

paul

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Re: Devel Digest, Vol 106, Issue 2

2015-01-27 Thread Lucia Lovison
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> Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2015 10:42:11 -0500
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> also didnt mention xo-1.5 because it uses arm i dont have a arm pc to test
> it on its not that safe
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> > i am working on trusty right now what init system should i use -
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> >> Howdy Mike-d. here,
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> >> I am definitely interested, I have been having challenges finding places
> >> to
> >> get some of the OSes used for the XO-1 in the past. Also challenges
> >> updating the older software. Is there a good place to store all the OSes
> >> for the XOs.
> >>
> >> Don't hate me people, but I am also interested in finding a copy of
> >> Windows
> >> XP for XO-1 to try and learn about how it works and loads on the XO.
> >> Thanks,
> >> Mike-d. out
> >>
> >> On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 1:23 PM, James Cameron 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> > On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 04:05:08PM -0400, Jhon Diaz wrote:
> >> > > How does ubuntu for xo-1 xo-1.75 xo-4 sound to you
> >> > > Many people might be interested in ubuntu
> >> > > Ubuntu 12.04 12.10 13.04
> >> >
> >> > Great.
> >> >
> >> > Your challenge will be to find what did not reach upstream from
> >> > Fedora or OLPC, right across the OS.
> >> >
> >> > See http://dev.laptop.org/git/users/quozl/uxo/.git/ for the tool that
> >> > I use to build Ubuntu on XO laptops.  For 14.04 LTS it only builds a
> >> > minimal server system, but that's all I needed.  For 12.04 LTS it
> >> > built a desktop system.
> >> >
> >> > You didn't mention XO-1.5.  Why not XO-1.5?
> >> >
> >> > You didn't mention more recent versions of Ubuntu.  Why not 14.04 LTS?
> >> >
> >> > I doubt if anybody would be interested in Ubuntu on an XO, but if you
> >> > build it and they come, great.  I built it years ago, they didn't
> >> > come.  Perhaps you can do better?
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selinux

2015-01-27 Thread Tim Moody
I need to determine the state of selinux on an xo4 running 32014o4.zd.  I 
notice that /etc/selinux/config does not exist.  Can someone tell me what is 
the best way to determine whether selinux is disabled and if not if it is 
permissive? 


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Re: Devel Digest, Vol 106, Issue 1

2015-01-27 Thread Jhon Diaz
also didnt mention xo-1.5 because it uses arm i dont have a arm pc to test
it on its not that safe

On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 10:36 AM, Jhon Diaz  wrote:

> i am working on trusty right now what init system should i use - linuxskid
>
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>> To: James Cameron 
>> Cc: devel@lists.laptop.org, Jhon Diaz 
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>> Howdy Mike-d. here,
>>
>> I am definitely interested, I have been having challenges finding places
>> to
>> get some of the OSes used for the XO-1 in the past. Also challenges
>> updating the older software. Is there a good place to store all the OSes
>> for the XOs.
>>
>> Don't hate me people, but I am also interested in finding a copy of
>> Windows
>> XP for XO-1 to try and learn about how it works and loads on the XO.
>> Thanks,
>> Mike-d. out
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 1:23 PM, James Cameron  wrote:
>>
>> > On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 04:05:08PM -0400, Jhon Diaz wrote:
>> > > How does ubuntu for xo-1 xo-1.75 xo-4 sound to you
>> > > Many people might be interested in ubuntu
>> > > Ubuntu 12.04 12.10 13.04
>> >
>> > Great.
>> >
>> > Your challenge will be to find what did not reach upstream from
>> > Fedora or OLPC, right across the OS.
>> >
>> > See http://dev.laptop.org/git/users/quozl/uxo/.git/ for the tool that
>> > I use to build Ubuntu on XO laptops.  For 14.04 LTS it only builds a
>> > minimal server system, but that's all I needed.  For 12.04 LTS it
>> > built a desktop system.
>> >
>> > You didn't mention XO-1.5.  Why not XO-1.5?
>> >
>> > You didn't mention more recent versions of Ubuntu.  Why not 14.04 LTS?
>> >
>> > I doubt if anybody would be interested in Ubuntu on an XO, but if you
>> > build it and they come, great.  I built it years ago, they didn't
>> > come.  Perhaps you can do better?
>> >
>> > --
>> > James Cameron
>> > http://quozl.linux.org.au/
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Re: Devel Digest, Vol 106, Issue 1

2015-01-27 Thread Jhon Diaz
i am working on trusty right now what init system should i use - linuxskid

On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 12:00 PM,  wrote:

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> Howdy Mike-d. here,
>
> I am definitely interested, I have been having challenges finding places to
> get some of the OSes used for the XO-1 in the past. Also challenges
> updating the older software. Is there a good place to store all the OSes
> for the XOs.
>
> Don't hate me people, but I am also interested in finding a copy of Windows
> XP for XO-1 to try and learn about how it works and loads on the XO.
> Thanks,
> Mike-d. out
>
> On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 1:23 PM, James Cameron  wrote:
>
> > On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 04:05:08PM -0400, Jhon Diaz wrote:
> > > How does ubuntu for xo-1 xo-1.75 xo-4 sound to you
> > > Many people might be interested in ubuntu
> > > Ubuntu 12.04 12.10 13.04
> >
> > Great.
> >
> > Your challenge will be to find what did not reach upstream from
> > Fedora or OLPC, right across the OS.
> >
> > See http://dev.laptop.org/git/users/quozl/uxo/.git/ for the tool that
> > I use to build Ubuntu on XO laptops.  For 14.04 LTS it only builds a
> > minimal server system, but that's all I needed.  For 12.04 LTS it
> > built a desktop system.
> >
> > You didn't mention XO-1.5.  Why not XO-1.5?
> >
> > You didn't mention more recent versions of Ubuntu.  Why not 14.04 LTS?
> >
> > I doubt if anybody would be interested in Ubuntu on an XO, but if you
> > build it and they come, great.  I built it years ago, they didn't
> > come.  Perhaps you can do better?
> >
> > --
> > James Cameron
> > http://quozl.linux.org.au/
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