Re: Help runnning a script after Installing an activity from .xo

2008-12-17 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 18.12.2008, at 00:51, qu...@laptop.org wrote: On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 12:31:31PM +0530, shivaprasad javali wrote: So I have to modify the /etc/sysconfig/modules/olpc-1.modules file so that I ask the XO to load the OSS module when it boots. Why when it boots? Why not when the activity

Re: Slimmed Down Fedora 10 on XO

2008-12-16 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 16.12.2008, at 18:56, Chris Ball wrote: Hi, (but seriously: we only need to add to what we have -- we don't need to start from scratch, rebuilding and/or subtracting from fedora.) In particular, I think: * take a Joyride build * yum groupinstall GNOME Desktop Environment *

Re: Downloading Scratch project to XO

2008-12-15 Thread Bert Freudenberg
John, does Scratch accept a .sb file on its command line? If so, the launcher script could get the file from the Journal and pass it on. - Bert - On 15.12.2008, at 18:53, John Maloney wrote: Hi, Phillipp. Thanks for reporting this problem. I believe there is a way to tell the XO to

Re: 8.2.1 builds now underway.

2008-12-12 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 12.12.2008, at 01:37, Michael Stone wrote: P.S. - People who maintain build-announcers -- please update them; they're really helpful! Thanks! http://dev.laptop.org/~bert/8.2.1-pkgs.html - Bert - ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org

Re: Collaboration using qemu emulation

2008-12-12 Thread Bert Freudenberg
(redirecting to devel lists) On 12.12.2008, at 08:52, Morgan Collett wrote: b.2) Run your own Jabber server. This requires ejabberd, with some custom patches, which until recently meant compiling ejabberd from source. Now however the required patches have been added to ejabberd in debian and

Re: [Sugar-devel] One instance activity

2008-12-10 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 10.12.2008, at 11:56, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 10 Dec 2008, Bert Freudenberg wrote: On 10.12.2008, at 03:57, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 9 Dec 2008, Bert Freudenberg wrote: On 09.12.2008, at 18:55, Eben Eliason wrote: Are you sure? Browse makes use of shared code

Re: Bundling plugins with Browse

2008-12-09 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 09.12.2008, at 18:49, Sayamindu Dasgupta wrote: http://dev.laptop.org/~sayamindu/Browse-99.xo seems to be working for me. Please test. Attached is the patch which did the trick. Ugh. Why is it necessary to copy the plugin to $SUGAR_ACTIVITY_ROOT/ data ? That would only make sense if it is

Re: [Sugar-devel] One instance activity

2008-12-09 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 09.12.2008, at 18:55, Eben Eliason wrote: Are you sure? Browse makes use of shared code, but still presents the user with the appearance of multiple instances. Right. The way to do it would be to create a unique D-Bus service in your activity. When the second instance tries to create

Re: 8.2.1 test plan finalized (next: test cases need finalization)

2008-12-09 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 09.12.2008, at 19:23, Mel Chua wrote: I believe that means that we can consider the list of test cases here as final (Joe/Kim, please holler if I'm incorrect): http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Test_cases_8.2.1 The Etoys ticket number is 8982 not 9045 as listed on that page. And please use the

Re: [Sugar-devel] Bundling plugins with Browse

2008-12-09 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 09.12.2008, at 22:29, Sayamindu Dasgupta wrote: On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 12:37 AM, Bert Freudenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 09.12.2008, at 18:49, Sayamindu Dasgupta wrote: http://dev.laptop.org/~sayamindu/Browse-99.xo seems to be working for me. Please test. Attached

Re: Updating NASA Connect Squeak / eToys Lessons

2008-12-08 Thread Bert Freudenberg
the halos on each object. Shift-click and drag on the background ... - Bert - Mike On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 5:16 AM, Bert Freudenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Mike, did you contact Randy Caton? If I remember correctly he intended to update those Etoys projects himself, but I

Re: proposal for updating Activities/Joyride page

2008-12-07 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 07.12.2008, at 14:15, Daniel Drake wrote: Hi, http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activities/Joyride is out of date. Some activities, e.g. Record and Read, need new versions listed which are not backwards compatible with 8.2. The current listed versions are included because of Joyride including

Re: Emulating 8.2-767

2008-12-06 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 06.12.2008, at 16:19, Dave Bauer wrote: On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 11:43 AM, Bert Freudenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (*) Now to the hoops: * I started with the 767/ext3 image from http://download.laptop.org/xo-1/os/official/ * extended to 2 GB by appending /dev/zero (jffs2

Re: Emulating 8.2-767

2008-12-06 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 06.12.2008, at 16:49, Bert Freudenberg wrote: On 06.12.2008, at 16:19, Dave Bauer wrote: On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 11:43 AM, Bert Freudenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (*) Now to the hoops: * I started with the 767/ext3 image from http://download.laptop.org/xo-1/os/official/ * extended

Re: Add Fedora logo

2008-12-06 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 06.12.2008, at 17:49, Benjamin M. Schwartz wrote: Tomeu Vizoso wrote: Add Fedora logo to Sugar This is, I think, a misunderstanding. Yes it is. I set reply-to to OLPC-devel, this does not concern Suagr. Kim says Sugar is supposed to include a fedora logo (they will provide), on the

Re: Emulating 8.2-767

2008-12-06 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 06.12.2008, at 22:54, Dave Bauer wrote: I got the bare image working in virtualbox. Btw, if I had to do it again I'd start with an image that already has the activities installed: http://download.laptop.org/xo-1/custom/g1g1/gg-767-4/ I downloaded this but Virtualbox says it is not

Re: Announcing the NANDblaster

2008-12-05 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 05.12.2008, at 09:53, Mitch Bradley wrote: The multicast NAND reflasher - AKA NANDblaster - is ready for serious testing. See http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Multicast_NAND_FLASH_Update for instructions. Mitch Wow, that's great! With that reflashing many laptops might even be fun, just

Emulating 8.2-767

2008-12-03 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Hi everyone, even with XOs readily available now there are quite a lot of reasons why one would want to emulate it on another machine. One being to hook up a projector. Unfortunately there are quite a number of hoops (*) one has to jump through to make it work. Anyway, I made a virtual

Re: Java Scratch on XO

2008-12-01 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 01.12.2008, at 15:37, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 3:16 PM, John Maloney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Tomeu. Thanks for your reply. It's great that there is a way to handle this! I took a quick look at the EToys .xo bundle and did not see a mimetypes.xml file. However,

Re: installing fonts How To

2008-11-27 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 27.11.2008, at 12:10, S Page wrote: a guess at why ~olpc/.fonts doesn't work, etc. Everyone who thinks this does not need to be broken could vote up this bug: http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/6629 - Bert - ___ Devel mailing list

Re: Touch pads

2008-11-26 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 26.11.2008, at 04:18, Ton van Overbeek wrote: Note that the Embedded Controller firmware version is also important. I suppose there are still very many XOs out in the field with the original firmware. Since Q2E18(?) there was a change causing many more mouse packets to be delivered to the

Re: XO Feature Roadmap meeting on today at 2PM US ET IRC freenode.net #olpc-meeting

2008-11-26 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 26.11.2008, at 15:27, Greg Smith wrote: Hi All, The weekly XO Feature Roadmap meeting is on today at: 2PM US ET IRC freenode.net #olpc-meeting Minutes from the last meeting and agenda for todays meeting are here: http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2008-November/021252.html The

Re: Simulating a lower resolution on the OLPC XO Laptop

2008-11-25 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 25.11.2008, at 11:57, Strider wrote: Hi, I have a XO Laptop which is a nice machine machine with a high res display of 1200x900 pixels. The problem with this is that the laptop isn't powerful enugh to handle fullscreen applications at this resolution. If only the display could

Re: Simulating a lower resolution on the OLPC XO Laptop

2008-11-25 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 25.11.2008, at 17:37, Jordan Crouse wrote: Bert Freudenberg wrote: On 25.11.2008, at 11:57, Strider wrote: Hi, I have a XO Laptop which is a nice machine machine with a high res display of 1200x900 pixels. The problem with this is that the laptop isn't powerful enugh to handle

Re: Simulating a lower resolution on the OLPC XO Laptop

2008-11-25 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 25.11.2008, at 18:37, Jordan Crouse wrote: Bert Freudenberg wrote: On 25.11.2008, at 17:37, Jordan Crouse wrote: Bert Freudenberg wrote: On 25.11.2008, at 11:57, Strider wrote: Hi, I have a XO Laptop which is a nice machine machine with a high res display of 1200x900 pixels

Re: Simulating a lower resolution on the OLPC XO Laptop

2008-11-25 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 25.11.2008, at 20:13, Jordan Crouse wrote: Thanks to Mitch, I fixed the scaling problem. Based on conversations on IRC, I am afraid that you will be very disappointed [...] xrandr --output default --mode modname Why should we be disappointed? That's what we wanted all along, no?

Re: Please unlock Activities/G1G1/8.2

2008-11-21 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Activity versions still need to be pegged on [[Activities/G1G1/8.2]]. *Please*? - Bert - On 31.10.2008, at 23:55, Bert Freudenberg wrote: Hmm, Activities/Joyride still referred to Activities/Etoys_(8.2) but I can't really find my way in the tangle of G1G1 redirects to fix this properly

Re: G1G1-2008 US machines delivered with 8.1 build 708, not with 8.2 build 767

2008-11-19 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Hi Ed, so since there is no stock in Europe can we assume that the machines ordered at the UK site will all come with 8.2? Makes support way easier. - Bert - On 20.11.2008, at 03:48, Ed McNierney wrote: Ton - Thanks for supporting the G1G1 program with your purchases! This year it

Re: keyboard

2008-11-11 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 11.11.2008, at 16:05, K. K. Subramaniam wrote: On Monday 10 Nov 2008 10:15:16 pm Tony Anderson wrote: I have my XO set up to switch between us and np keyboard layouts. What I need is a way in Python to find out which of these layouts is currently selected. Try

Re: [sugar] Major differences between releases

2008-11-10 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 10.11.2008, at 16:45, Martin Langhoff wrote: On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 9:02 AM, Morgan Collett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've started http://wiki.laptop.org/go/API_changes to track Sugar and system API changes between releases. It's not very comprehensive so far - contributions welcome.

Re: Status of Joyride

2008-10-31 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 31.10.2008, at 03:02, Peter Robinson wrote: Can someone poke the announcer scripts that updates the following URLs. http://dev.laptop.org/~rwh/announcer/joyride_vs_update1.html In the mean time you can still use what the old scripts generate:

Re: Please unlock Activities/G1G1/8.2

2008-10-31 Thread Bert Freudenberg
- On 28.09.2008, at 07:59, C. Scott Ananian wrote: On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 7:55 PM, Bert Freudenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The lock-down of this page (which causes lock-down of all included pages transitively) was fine until Scott replaced the references to the 8.2 versions of activities

Re: Please unlock Activities/G1G1/8.2

2008-10-31 Thread Bert Freudenberg
developers, make sure you have a valid [[Activities/activityname (8.2)]] page; that is what will show up on the g1g1 page. The (latest) activity pages are now unlocked. SJ On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 5:16 PM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 4:43 PM, Bert

Re: Allowing an activity to be launched multiple times in parallel

2008-10-29 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 29.10.2008, at 16:51, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 12:40 AM, Benjamin M. Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Asheesh Laroia wrote: I have a general sugar UI question: My activity, License, a simple comic book reader

Re: Anyone set up a client/server application using stream tubes?

2008-10-28 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 27.10.2008, at 08:29, Faisal Anwar wrote: Thanks, I'll check out Etoys further to see how it is done there. I've looked through Read already and have already documented a similar pattern in the Almanac. I was hoping to document some more advanced uses of stream tubes where users can

Re: Sugar unusable as an e-book reader

2008-10-28 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 28.10.2008, at 11:38, James Simmons wrote: What the Journal doesn't do is open the one you'd like as a default. /usr/share/sugar/data/activities.default - Bert - ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org

Re: Sugar unusable as an e-book reader

2008-10-27 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 27.10.2008 um 05:54 schrieb Benjamin M. Schwartz: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the full-screen mode is useless as the large icon to revert back to normal covers up the text in the upper corner. That icon is tiny, at least on my copy of Read. It certainly occupies less vertical space

Re: Anyone set up a client/server application using stream tubes?

2008-10-27 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 27.10.2008 um 11:23 schrieb Guillaume Desmottes [EMAIL PROTECTED] : Le vendredi 24 octobre 2008 à 14:18 +, Faisal Anwar a écrit : Hi All, I'm trying to document some more stuff related to Stream Tubes for the sugar almanac (http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Sugar_Almanac) and wanted to

Re: Cannot edit Trac tickets

2008-10-24 Thread Bert Freudenberg
-Original Message- From: Chris Ball [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 12:11 PM To: Noah Kantrowitz Cc: Bert Freudenberg; OLPC Devel Subject: Re: Cannot edit Trac tickets Hi Noah, Can't reproduce on 3.1.2/Leopard. Please make sure to clear your web cache if you have

Re: 9.1 proposal: View source key everywhere

2008-10-23 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 23.10.2008 um 14:53 schrieb Tomeu Vizoso: Hi, I think that with a small effort, we could implement something much better than what we have today. We have glorious plans for the view source key, but as no resources have been devoted to them, perhaps we should scale back and make sure

Re: [sugar] 9.1 proposal: View source key everywhere

2008-10-23 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 23.10.2008 um 15:33 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: bert wrote: Am 23.10.2008 um 15:15 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: an addition to activity.info, with sensible defaults, would be the best bet, i think. This would mean that sometimes the shell and sometimes the activity would have to handle

Re: Dependencies (was [Activities] Tux Typing on OLPC XO)

2008-10-20 Thread Bert Freudenberg
See http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activity_bundles#Bundling_Native_Libraries - Bert - Am 20.10.2008 um 15:20 schrieb Brian Jordan: How should dependencies like TuxType's be handled? (found list at http://sophie.zarb.org/rpm/Momonga,4,x86_64/tuxtype/deps ) Thanks Brian --

Re: Fedora 10 for 9.1.0?

2008-10-15 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 15.10.2008 um 11:02 schrieb Tomeu Vizoso: On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 10:57 AM, Bert Freudenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am 15.10.2008 um 01:19 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: the distro landscape has changed a bit in the last few years, is it worth considering a jump to Ubuntu if it has

Re: Fedora 10 for 9.1.0?

2008-10-15 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 15.10.2008 um 01:19 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: the distro landscape has changed a bit in the last few years, is it worth considering a jump to Ubuntu if it has a better fit for your release cycle? at the very least it telegraphs the long-term support versions. Ubuntu also seems a much

Re: joyride-activities.py --mirror

2008-10-14 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 14.10.2008 um 05:01 schrieb James Cameron: Added a --mirror flag to joyride-activities.py so that the script can be used on a system without dbus or sugar, in order to create a mirror of the activity files for later pickup. git clone http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/berts-script.git

Re: [IAEP] sugar and the digital age (was Re: notes from the field - Mongolia)

2008-10-09 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 09.10.2008 um 19:10 schrieb elana langer: there is a very common feeling amongst policy makers and teacher that the XO doesn't really prepare students for the field of IT. There was a pilot project done in Mongolia that was run by the Japanese gov't where they introduced Linux to 4 towns.

Re: Flash tests

2008-09-30 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 30.09.2008 um 11:13 schrieb John Watlington: On Sep 30, 2008, at 1:53 PM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 7:37 PM, John Watlington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The video in Hulk Central Smashdown shows only two frames, and the game is unplayable due to slowness in rendering.

Re: New release8.2 build 764

2008-09-28 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 28.09.2008 um 09:38 schrieb Carol Lerche: Why not call it a tester's key? It is principally useful for testing late-breaking versions. IMHO a user doesn't even have to know there is a key, let alone worry about its name. The test designation is a good one, so why not simply have a

Re: Please unlock Activities/G1G1/8.2

2008-09-28 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 28.09.2008 um 07:59 schrieb C. Scott Ananian: On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 7:55 PM, Bert Freudenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The lock-down of this page (which causes lock-down of all included pages transitively) was fine until Scott replaced the references to the 8.2 versions

Re: Please unlock Activities/G1G1/8.2

2008-09-28 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 28.09.2008 um 11:30 schrieb C. Scott Ananian: On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 1:46 PM, Bert Freudenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am 28.09.2008 um 07:59 schrieb C. Scott Ananian: On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 7:55 PM, Bert Freudenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The lock-down of this page (which

Major differences between releases

2008-09-28 Thread Bert Freudenberg
I think it would be a good idea for everyone (activity authors in particular) to cross-check the changes in what packages are included in the new stable release, in particular what packages are *going away*: http://dev.laptop.org/~bert/update.1-8.2.html Also, is there any chance

Activity resume issues (was Re: twenty issues with Paint activity)

2008-09-26 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 26.09.2008 um 06:20 schrieb Mikus Grinbergs: If from Journal I double-click on a Paint activity icon, I get two icons in the Frame, one of which has a doubled menu (Paint Activity - Resume - Stop - Resume - Stop) that I can't resume or stop. When I tried to reproduce I got two

Please unlock Activities/G1G1/8.2

2008-09-26 Thread Bert Freudenberg
The lock-down of this page (which causes lock-down of all included pages transitively) was fine until Scott replaced the references to the 8.2 versions of activities with the old G1G1 page. E.g., when the page was locked, it included http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activities/Etoys_(8.2)

Testing server-based collaboration

2008-09-25 Thread Bert Freudenberg
What server is available for testing collaboration? I erroneously filed this ticket http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/8643 because an outage of xochat.org coincided with my upgrading to build 763. But I do not know any other suitable server since olpc.collabora.co.uk became unusable. Thanks, -

Re: G1G1 Pre-installed Activities Request for Help Testing

2008-09-25 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 25.09.2008 um 10:06 schrieb Sameer Verma: On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 12:04 PM, Sameer Verma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 1:12 PM, Sameer Verma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In an attempt to make the decision-making process more unbiased (or at least more

update_url and joyride

2008-09-24 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Scott, how would I have to layout an activity update_url site if I want to provide a stable version for 8.2 but a later one for joyride builds? IIUC then the joyride updater will also try $update_url/8.2 just like a stable build does, right? Is there a way to do it without resorting to

Re: update_url and joyride

2008-09-24 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 24.09.2008 um 14:10 schrieb C. Scott Ananian: On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 4:33 PM, Bert Freudenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: how would I have to layout an activity update_url site if I want to provide a stable version for 8.2 but a later one for joyride builds? IIUC then the joyride

Re: [sugar] frame gets in the way when alt-tabbing

2008-09-23 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 23.09.2008 um 06:21 schrieb Erik Garrison: Both Joyride and 8.2 streams have composition enabled by default. You can test composition by running xcompmgr -d :0.0 in the terminal. It is available, but the window manager does not use it, afaik. - Bert -

8.2.0 deployments

2008-09-23 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Hi, is there a list for who is anticipated to be using 8.2.0 (in contrast to 8.2.1 for example)? One reason I'm asking is that a Turkish translation update just popped in and it would be good to know if this means we need to update the package now or if it can wait for 8.2.1. - Bert -

Re: G1G1v2 Activities

2008-09-19 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 19.09.2008 um 01:13 schrieb Douglas Bagnall: Greg Smith wrote: What do you think are the most important activities to include? If we're sticking to activities with valid activity.info files, then (AFAICT) we're limited to: XaoS - org.codewiz.XaoS Sokoban

Keeping Trac(k)

2008-09-19 Thread Bert Freudenberg
For keeping up with new Trac tickets I discovered this RSS feed: http://dev.laptop.org/timeline?ticket=onmax=50daysback=7format=rss ... which only has entries for opened and closed tickets. This is much more bearable than subscribing to the bug notify list. Even better would be if I could

Re: Keeping Trac(k)

2008-09-19 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 19.09.2008 um 19:07 schrieb Gary C Martin: Hi Bert, On 19 Sep 2008, at 13:27, Bert Freudenberg wrote: For keeping up with new Trac tickets I discovered this RSS feed: http://dev.laptop.org/timeline?ticket=onmax=50daysback=7format=rss ... which only has entries for opened and closed

Re: VideoChat-7 release

2008-09-18 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 18.09.2008 um 15:17 schrieb Stephen Thorne: http://suqld.org.au/~stephen/VideoChat-7.xo Yay! We just had a video chat between Australia and Germany :) - Bert - ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Re: [sugar] G1G1v2 Activities

2008-09-18 Thread Bert Freudenberg
I noticed in the new help activity there is an activity sampler of 21 activities. Are these going to be shipped? - Bert - ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Re: mechanisms tied to mesh: under a tree collab

2008-09-17 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 17.09.2008 um 07:26 schrieb John Gilmore: The decision to tie application sharing to Mesh and Sugar was a bad design idea, one which I've been intending to explore fixing. As Benjamin pointed out, the sharing is *not* tied to the mesh. It works just as well if both machines can receive

Re: mechanisms tied to mesh: under a tree collab

2008-09-17 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 17.09.2008 um 11:28 schrieb John Gilmore: The problem comes from the OLPC marketing that equates mesh with collaboration which in fact are two independent concepts. What the UI displays as Mesh Server should be Collaboration Server - it's only needed to mediate if the laptops who want to

Re: semantic black ops for Activities? (Re: Greg Smith's Weekly Report)

2008-09-16 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 16.09.2008 um 22:27 schrieb Seth Woodworth: So far the semantic form for activities is very rough in actual data- points and very rough in layout. On the actual form, I think that there needs to be some small changes; a drop down for languages, ability to add wiki-pages in certain

Re: semantic black ops for Activities? (Re: Greg Smith's Weekly Report)

2008-09-16 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 16.09.2008 um 23:14 schrieb Walter Bender: You can add anchors to pages in the wiki, so you could do Activities#X My wiki-fu is not strong enough ... and I do not see anchors mentioned on http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Help:Editing - Bert - ___

Re: semantic black ops for Activities? (Re: Greg Smith's Weekly Report)

2008-09-16 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 16.09.2008 um 22:54 schrieb Bert Freudenberg: (hehe, wouldn't http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activities#X be a nicer link? No way to do that I fear) Oh, thanks to Walter this works now :) - Bert - ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org

Re: Bundle activity

2008-09-11 Thread Bert Freudenberg
IIUC the activity would not deal with files but with journal entries. So you can copy several journal entries into a zipped entry, and you can unzip entries from a zipped one. This has nothing to do with files in the home directory (besides, a regular activity cannot write to home, and

Re: Getting a path to SUGAR_ACTVITY_ROOT

2008-09-11 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 12.09.2008 um 00:08 schrieb John Maloney: s = getenv(SUGAR_ACTVITY_ROOT); Try inserting an I there ;) - Bert - ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Rainbow-daemon dialog in Browse?

2008-09-11 Thread Bert Freudenberg
I've never seen a rainbow-daemon dialog before, what is it supposed to do? It doesn't work anyway, I filed a ticket with screenshot: http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/8435 - Bert - ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org

IPv6 problem on crank

2008-09-09 Thread Bert Freudenberg
I got really weird problems on my build diff script today, with a gazillion of them frozen (they're triggered by cron). I tracked it down to a non-working IPv6 connection to xs-dev. This hangs: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ curl -I http://xs-dev.laptop.org/ but forcing IPv4 makes it work: [EMAIL

Re: AC not present?

2008-09-08 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Well, even spelling it external power required is better than the cryptic AC not present. - Bert - Am 08.09.2008 um 17:25 schrieb Eben Eliason: I know I've said this before, but I really want to get some UI polish into this part of the system. Instead of the cryptic AC not present we

Re: Wellington testers + Activities vs 8.2-759

2008-09-06 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 06.09.2008 um 06:52 schrieb Martin Langhoff: Mini vMac - Works well, and gives the Mac fans little jumps - No sound? - No network? - Display is very small, could it be done with a 2x zoom? - Shutdown process is mildly awkward According to the wiki Ctrl-F toggles a 2x zoom ... - Bert -

Re: Cmap tools (was [Techteam] Weekend Report - due today)

2008-09-04 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 04.09.2008 um 01:06 schrieb Michael Stone: On Wed, Sep 03, 2008 at 05:33:28PM -0400, Greg Smith wrote: Has anyone tried making the activity which is X-windows and inside which other activities can run? [1] and [2] seem apropos. Michael [1]:

Re: Frimware Q2E15 and Joyride-2368, good and bad

2008-09-03 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 03.09.2008 um 12:49 schrieb Ton van Overbeek: On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 3:17 AM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 4:07 AM, Ton van Overbeek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: C. Scott Ananian wrote: On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 10:02 PM, Ton van Overbeek [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: New joyride build 2382

2008-09-03 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 03.09.2008 um 19:19 schrieb C. Scott Ananian: On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 1:06 PM, Erik Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Sep 03, 2008 at 01:00:39PM -0400, Build Announcer v2 wrote: http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build2382 Changes in build 2382 from build: 2381

Re: olpc-update joyride-latest points me to theft-deterrence service

2008-09-03 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 03.09.2008 um 22:28 schrieb Christoph Derndorfer: Hey, I just wanted to upgrade my XO via the olpc-update joyride-latest I had just discovered. How all that happened was that the following url was displayed before I was back at the prompt: Update and theft-deterrence service

Re: OFW vs. proprietary BIOS

2008-08-31 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 31.08.2008 um 18:51 schrieb K. K. Subramaniam: On Saturday 30 Aug 2008 5:37:07 am Mitch Bradley wrote: A lot of the OFW functionality is targeted toward the task of managing a large collection of possibly-plug-in I/O devices, then booting a general purpose OS. Like Squeak for

Re: CSound server questions

2008-08-31 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 31.08.2008 um 19:04 schrieb victor: Well, you can ask me. I suppose there are various ways you could connect to Csound: 1. using the API (via a C or C++ squeak plugin module, if it is possible to do these things), 2. through MIDI (if squeak can output MIDI and we can then connect via

Power-on to GUI in 20 seconds

2008-08-29 Thread Bert Freudenberg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0fAUGRUDVA Brought to you by Gerardo Richarte, with bootstrapping help from Mitch Bradley. - Bert - ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Re: Power-on to GUI in 20 seconds

2008-08-29 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 29.08.2008 um 15:34 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: bert wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0fAUGRUDVA Brought to you by Gerardo Richarte, with bootstrapping help from Mitch Bradley. i can't resist pointing out that we could probably do that with linux too, if we weren't committed to

New joyride build

2008-08-29 Thread Bert Freudenberg
I don't know what's wrong with rwh's announcer, but joyride builds are working again: http://dev.laptop.org/~bert/joyride-pkgs.html - Bert - ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Re: Power-on to GUI in 20 seconds

2008-08-29 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 29.08.2008 um 22:19 schrieb Edward Cherlin: bert wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0fAUGRUDVA Brought to you by Gerardo Richarte, with bootstrapping help from Mitch Bradley. Thanks, Mitch. Where can we get details and code? Its not released yet, but should show up here as soon as

Re: CSound server questions

2008-08-29 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 29.08.2008 um 23:10 schrieb John Maloney: Thanks, Jim and Victor. Jim, your explanation makes sense. Good to know what the future direction is for OLPC and CSound. If I have questions about making Scratch use CSound, who is the best person to ask? If it still supports OSC you could

Re: [PROPOSAL] Change PILGRIM_LOCALES_* to better reflect the current situation

2008-08-28 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 28.08.2008 um 15:34 schrieb Daniel Drake: On Thu, 2008-08-28 at 15:04 +0530, Sayamindu Dasgupta wrote: b) To reflect the current and near future deployments (including G1G1 2008) and the level of translations that we have in Pootle, the variables get changed to

Re: Scratch localization.

2008-08-27 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 27.08.2008 um 18:38 schrieb C. Scott Ananian: Scratch appears to require manual editing of the Scratch.ini file in order to come up in a language other than English. Is there any way I can pass a command-line option in bin/scratch-activity to set the Language preference based on the

Re: olpc.fth and OFW api docs

2008-08-25 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 25.08.2008 um 16:11 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: mitch wrote: paul fox wrote: mitch wrote: Open Firmware can boot ELF binaries directly. Put your .elf file in the root directory on a USB key that is formatted with either a FAT filesystem (preferred) or an ext2 filesystem. Then, on an

Re: Is it possible to boot alternative OS from an USB stick?

2008-08-25 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 25.08.2008 um 16:14 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: hilaire wrote: Any pointer to what is OFW? I don't find it in the wiki. search for Open Firmware. http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Open_Firmware Something is severely wrong with the wiki search box. This page works fine:

Re: Is it possible to boot alternative OS from an USB stick?

2008-08-25 Thread Bert Freudenberg
people write the driver directly in Smalltalk. Hilaire 2008/8/25 Bert Freudenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Am 25.08.2008 um 16:14 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: hilaire wrote: Any pointer to what is OFW? I don't find it in the wiki. search for Open Firmware. http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Open_Firmware

Re: Is it possible to boot alternative OS from an USB stick?

2008-08-24 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 24.08.2008 um 11:39 schrieb Hilaire Fernandes: I am at the Smalltalk Camp in Amsterdam, with SqueakNOS colleagues we try to start XO machine with SqueakNOS operating system. We don't find the key sequence to boot on USB. We will keep searching but if any of you have direct pointer,

Re: Which stream to test for 8.2 or have we officially branched now?

2008-08-23 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 24.08.2008 um 00:04 schrieb C. Scott Ananian: On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 11:35 AM, Ton van Overbeek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Noticed that idle suspend was enabled again in recent joyrides. pgf replied that this was intentional since we now have a revived 8.2 build stream. But I have not

Re: Preparations for forking 8.2.

2008-08-20 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 20.08.2008 um 02:04 schrieb C. Scott Ananian: I've revived and turned the crank on the 8.2 branch in preparations for forking a stable stream from joyride. The build announcers will probably shortly announce build 753, which should be more-or-less identical to the latest joyride. You

Re Using scaling mode

2008-08-20 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On Aug 7, 2008 Jordan Crouse wrote: You can change the mode with the xrandr utility. The following is the output from my system with a 1024x768 panel attached: me at geodelx:~# xrandr Screen 0: minimum 320 x 240, current 800 x 600, maximum 1024 x 1024 default connected 800x600+0+0 0mm x

Re: Tribute To Randy Pausch

2008-08-16 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 06:31, Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, I'd like to take a moment to respectfully mark the passing of Randy Pausch. I wasn't aware of him before he died but it looks like his work (http://download.srv.cs.cmu.edu/~pausch/Randy/oldRandyPage.html) was

Re: Terminals

2008-08-01 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 01.08.2008, at 04:29, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 31 Jul 2008, Walter Bender wrote: Maybe the console is enough? if the console font has been changed to something more readable it can be used. Still wondering why Albert's font has not been adopted. Every time I olpc-update I'm

Re: Terminals

2008-08-01 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 01.08.2008, at 14:43, James Cameron wrote: On Fri, Aug 01, 2008 at 11:23:49AM +0200, Bert Freudenberg wrote: http://dev.laptop.org/~bert/whiteonblack.tar.gz +1 Works for me. But. Odd that it is slower than an xterm for displaying a ps ax ... 0.517s on 703 in the xterm, 3.068s

Re: activity bar

2008-08-01 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 01.08.2008, at 16:01, Victor Lazzarini wrote: Not sure which logs. I can see all the installed activities but none of my custom ones. Then your custom activity must be malformed. See http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activity_bundles (once the wiki finds its marbles again). The logs are in

Re: New joyride build 2232

2008-07-31 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 31.07.2008, at 11:23, Morgan Collett wrote: On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 11:07, Simon Schampijer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Morgan Collett wrote: On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 23:44, Build Announcer v2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build2232

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