[Server-devel] Looking at edublog moodle code --

2008-09-16 Thread Martin Langhoff
Hi Tarun, I'm looking briefly at edublog's moodle code. Was hoping to be able to cherry-pick the patches making the html editor changes, but your initial moodle commit is with the _modified_ moodle already...? I am looking at ab1232242ab51336e9b0fc9aed1443bc35fe1d49 - but from what I can see,

Re: mechanisms tied to mesh: under a tree collab

2008-09-16 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 5:26 PM, John Gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My understanding is that it works automagically between XOs on the same AP -- but may have limitations and possibly bugs as it's not something we push (and it's not something we test

[Server-devel] offline moodle - patches on a branch in the dev.laptop.org repo...

2008-09-17 Thread Martin Langhoff
Hi Tony, list, haven't had a chance to play much with the code. But I applied your files on top of the latest 1.9, and tweaked lib/javascript.php in a way that would be compatible with merging it upstream. It's here

Re: [Server-devel] Looking at edublog moodle code --

2008-09-17 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 5:37 PM, Martin Langhoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm looking briefly at edublog's moodle code. Was hoping to be able to cherry-pick the patches making the html editor changes, but your initial moodle commit is with the _modified_ moodle already...? ok. not all is lost

Re: [Server-devel] Edublog: How do I submit bug fixes upstream to ou blog?

2008-09-17 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 5:27 AM, Tarun Pondicherry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm curious how to get some bug fixes upstream into ou blog. I think its not maintained by Moodle right? I'm trying to figure out also where to get the latest ou blog code to see if those bugs are there. Mostly, just

Re: [Server-devel] anaconda deletes /fsckoptions on F9 based XS

2008-09-17 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 3:43 AM, Jeremy Katz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How often are you actually getting to having fsck questions? Hi Jeremy, good question. In the field, the XS machines never get switched off - they are headless, and set in the bios to auto-switch-on. Most of them will be in

xs-devel disk full - XS OS Builds related?

2008-09-21 Thread Martin Langhoff
The disk is full on xs-dev, I think it may be related to the autobuilder. I don't want to touch anything there that might be useful. ISTR talking about moving all this stuff _away_ from xs-dev, and to a machine with no internet-facing services? This was many moons ago... cheers, martin --

Re: Firefox and Browse and xulrunner on 8.2.0

2008-09-21 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 7:57 PM, S Page [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * I assume the Help-6.xo application also shares code, since it's using Hulahop that Browse uses. But top shows VIRT RES SHR 132m 37m 11m Browse 121m 36m 11m xulrunner (i.e. chatzilla) 130m 30m 7096

Re: trac question: search with AND?

2008-09-22 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 10:10 AM, Noah Kantrowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I haven't found a way to do this on trac... other than running 2 queries :-/ SELECT ... FROM ticket WHERE component='schoolserver' OR position('schoolserver' in keywords) != 0; Hah, sure, just tell me which parameter

Re: trac question: search with AND?

2008-09-22 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 10:36 AM, Noah Kantrowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just like I said before, write a report . Ah, I see reports allow SQL. See the TracReports wiki page. Gave it a good read. It's very odd - the Creating Custom Reports page doesn't say how to create one -- though it

Re: New release8.2 build 761

2008-09-22 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 4:29 PM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 11:31 PM, Build Announcer v2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://pilgrim.laptop.org/~pilgrim/xo-1/streams/8.2/build761 Note that a 762 will be on its way shortly with a few packages which missed

Re: idea for running out of RAM

2008-09-24 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 5:18 PM, Bobby Powers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: setting RAM requirements reminds me of classic macos :) Indeed. And quite fitting - classic macos is the most recent (and memorable) case of no swap multi-tasking OS we have. Granted, it *had* a broken vmem scheme, but in

Re: idea for running out of RAM

2008-09-28 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 2:20 PM, Gary C Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 25 Sep 2008, at 01:00, Martin Langhoff wrote: From your experience are your newcomers accidentally or intentionally launching too many Activities? Is it that they genuinely wanted to have N activities all running

Re: idea for running out of RAM

2008-09-28 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 3:57 PM, John Gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PS: We don't even know the mem footprint of our activities. It all gets jumbled up by Sugar and Security and other changes. Nobody thinks the numbers in top are useful, nobody has any better way to measure the mem

Re: release 8.2 build 762 still has olpc-update manifest failure at line 383 problem

2008-10-01 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 5:51 AM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I need to know what version you are updating *from*. --scott Seeing the same problem with 8.2-764, updating to 8.2-766 - the error complains about the contents manifest line 319 . cheers, martin -- [EMAIL

Re: Walter Bender: Re: devkeys, prettyboot, and G1G1

2008-10-02 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 1:59 PM, John Gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I see this is utterly backwards. The countries that want $feature on their laptops should be paying the price in support problems and infrastructure. I've edited your quote a bit. G1G1 participants support us is many ways,

Re: Devel Digest, Vol 32, Issue 13

2008-10-04 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 5:29 PM, Mitch Bradley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You could also try out the multicast nand update thing if you are really eager. http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Multicast_NAND_FLASH_Update tells how. BTW, the multicast NAND stuff is great - thanks. I hope we can get the AA to

Re: Peru and Microsoft announcement

2008-10-04 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 9:46 AM, Pia Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That'd be cool. It'd be great to have the latest post of community news and this regular update on the front page with a link to the subscriptions. Why don't you blog the updates so people can subscribe to the rss feed (and it

Fwd: Pseudo-locales for i18n testing by English speakers

2008-10-05 Thread Martin Langhoff
This is the start of a rather interesting thread in fedora-devel-list. It seems like a very easy way to push the envelope a bit on i18n/l10n support, something that even G1G1 testers can help us with. I've already cross-posted it to moodle.org where it immediately revealed a bug. --

Re: Pseudo-locales for i18n testing by English speakers

2008-10-06 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 6:55 PM, Douglas Bagnall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of the 118 activities linked from [[Activities]], the following have a pseudo linfo field, and the asterisked ones have actual pseudo-ised data. great - I wonder how to activate one of these pseudo locales. *

Re: [Server-devel] TinyMCE in Moodle

2008-10-06 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 2:23 PM, Martin Langhoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And here we go: http://moodle.org/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=107550 One thing to note - I won't include this in mdl19-xs yet. If it gets a bit of testing from other parties I will consider it for xs-0.5. In other words, when

Re: [Server-devel] physical security issue

2008-10-08 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 3:47 PM, Sameer Verma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As if discussions on this list aren't lively enough, here's another issue to look at. This has been covered in many discussions - perhaps not so much on this list but it's an important issue. However, there is little we can

Re: File systems usage patterns and NAND lifetime

2008-10-10 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 7:17 PM, Deepak Saxena [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Related to this topicm I am also wondering what is the expected usable life of the XO? 5 years is what I heard many times. Can't now find a formal source of it, but it's tatooed in my forehead by raw repetition. cheers,

[Server-devel] Offline moodle notes in moodle.org

2008-10-10 Thread Martin Langhoff
Posted on moodle.org http://moodle.org/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=107920 Hi all! I have been away for a while working on other olpc stuff, but now my attention is returning to Moodle, and offline moodle is definitely in my roadmap. In the AU and NZ moot I had good chances to talk with Dan and

MoodleMoot A/NZ report

2008-10-12 Thread Martin Langhoff
The moodlemoots are fantastic gatherings with lots of teachers with good experience and self-confidence using moodle as a teaching tool, and many of them using social constructivist approaches. I've encouraged teachers and educators to visit our wiki and consider joining our mailing lists, some

Re: [BULK] Re: [Health] VideoChat is working now - hooray!

2008-10-13 Thread Martin Langhoff
2008/10/13 Harshvardhan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: true. plus a good broadband network connection, And a personal jetpack too! Now, while the personal jetpacks evolve, let's look at more realistic steps forward :-) This can work locally for all sorts of fun and educational uses. Some schools will have

Re: [Server-devel] Tying yum to a package stream?

2008-10-13 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 4:24 PM, James Antill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But if you are going to ship a repo to end users which requires/uses the yum-priority plugin (or excludes, or whatever), I am shipping a heavily preconfigured spin, the OLPC School Server. It points to the standard F9

Re: [Server-devel] Offline moodle notes in moodle.org

2008-10-14 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 3:52 AM, John Watlington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've talked to Google specifically about using Gears on the XO. Once they understood OLPC's goals and operating environment, they didn't think Gears was appropriate. It was really designed for constant connectivity.

Re: Fedora 10 for 9.1.0?

2008-10-14 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 5:21 AM, Jeremy Katz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 2008-10-12 at 13:34 +0200, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: do we plan to rebase to F10 for 9.1.0? I'm asking because I'd need to know if I can depend on gtk 2.14... If not, then you're going to be basing on a Fedora

[Server-devel] For xs-0.4 setups wanting many clients on the LAN port (AP setups)

2008-10-14 Thread Martin Langhoff
Working through the network setup, I spotted an opportunity that is possibly the easiest path - hand dhcp leases in this netblock on eth1: $ ipcalculator 172.18.0.0/21 Address: 172.18.0.0 10101100.00010010.0 000. Netmask: 255.255.248.0 = 21 ..1

Re: [Server-devel] For xs-0.4 setups wanting many clients on the LAN port (AP setups)

2008-10-14 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 2:13 PM, Martin Langhoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Working through the network setup, I spotted an opportunity that is possibly the easiest path - hand dhcp leases in this netblock on eth1: $ ipcalculator 172.18.0.0/21 Actually that walks over 172.18.1.1 which

Re: [Server-devel] Getting closer: XS-0.5-dev5 preview

2008-10-15 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 5:18 AM, Jerry Vonau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, my mistake, I cd'ed into olpc-scripts instead of using the full path to call domain_config. :-( domain_config should not depend on CWD for its behaviour. Do you mean we have a bug with this? martin -- [EMAIL

Re: 9.1 Proposal: Printing support

2008-10-21 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 12:52 PM, Bill Bogstad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Martin will probably hate me for this... Oh, I won't! However implements this gets to say how it's done; good to hear you have an opinion that you're willing to back with code :-) If you can assume the existence of an XS

Re: 9.1 Proposal: Printing support

2008-10-21 Thread Martin Langhoff
Ok - I had missed the whole thread in my earlier reply. On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 9:24 AM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *But*, we should be able to: * Print postscript (or pdf, or whatever, just pick *one*) to school server via CUP (IPP?), and install a decent selection of

Re: [Server-devel] Backup of laptops

2008-10-21 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 1:13 PM, Pia Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They have the right ownership, and the ds-backup.py on my 767 image doesn't look the same as in that trac log. I'll look into it some more. The other thing to check is that ~/.sugar/default/owner.key in the XO is mode 600 .

Re: 9.1 Proposal: Printing support

2008-10-21 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 12:03 AM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think we're on the same page here. For 9.1, what's the *least* work we can do to get *something* done on the printing front? Fantastic! Once the basics are out there, hopefully we'll have community motivated to

Re: [Server-devel] 9.1 Proposal: Printing support

2008-10-21 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 3:05 AM, Jeff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please stop imagining that lowest-spec, cheapest hardware and crippleware is the answer - or that 3'rd World countries will never progress towards a reasonable standard. That attitude is patronizing and demeaning. And wrong. Hey -

Re: [sugar] 9.1 Proposal: Printing support

2008-10-23 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 4:31 AM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 8:57 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: can's mdns/avahi help with discovery? it'd be a shame to have to manually configure a server address or name. DNS-SD is the Right Answer (which is not exactly

Re: [Server-devel] XS server

2008-10-23 Thread Martin Langhoff
2008/10/23 Henry Vélez Molina [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Verifying from the Terminal activity, we note that doing the ping schoolserver , he print ous: uknown host. We believe that the problem is the Access Point. I agree! That sounds like the AP is acting like a gateway (and that's not what you

Re: [Server-devel] xs-otp: one time passwords for the XS

2008-10-26 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 4:52 PM, Michael Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Physical security is not our problem... (at least yet). Still sure that you want the XS to be involved in the theft-deterrence protocol? :) of course :) ! I guess I mean that the XS should be in a locked up cabinet. It

[Server-devel] MoodleMoot It/Bcn / Mozilla Camp report

2008-10-27 Thread Martin Langhoff
This is a brief continuation of the MoodleMoot report 2 weeks ago. Lots of interesting material on the educational and technical tracks (so it's cross-posted to educators@ and server-devel -- pick and choose :-) ) : - Architectural discussions v2.0 - Discussed XS and general Moodle-in-the-XS

Re: Thread on a new model for collaboration

2008-10-27 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 6:12 PM, Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The main idea is that there is another asynchronous concept of collaboration which we may be able to implement with less complexity than what we now call collaboration (e.g.

Re: Thread on a new model for collaboration

2008-10-28 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 10:40 PM, Juliano Bittencourt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think both don't have what is necessary to support change in education on primary schools around the world. I'm *very* interested in following up on what the current crop of LMSs are missing, could do different,

Re: Thread on a new model for collaboration

2008-10-28 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 8:25 PM, David Cavallo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hold on. I never told you I did not have knowledge of Moodle. Quite the contrary. Please be more careful. If you asked if I used Moodle in projects I would have told you no. I have a lot to say about it and want to enter

Re: Thread on a new model for collaboration

2008-10-28 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 8:01 PM, Martin Langhoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... long email... And Edward Cherlin points out in a private email that I -- once again! -- mixed up my constructivism with my constructionism. For the record, I meant social constructivism. Thanks Edward, sorry everyone

Re: [sugar] Postponement of XOCamp Event to January

2008-10-30 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 2:52 AM, Ed McNierney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The OLPC XOCamp event being planned for November 17 – 21 is being postponed until January, 2009. The Fedora FUDCON conference is in Boston on January 9 Oops. I kind of saw that coming when fudcon was postponed. I'll sort my

Re: [Server-devel] TinyMCE in Moodle

2008-10-31 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 7:15 PM, Tarun Pondicherry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With help from Martin, I created a branch (mdl19-sugarytinymce) with the Sugar Theme for tinyMCE in the EduBlog repository (projects/EduBlog at dev.laptop.org). So far, it has really basic options

What's cooking inthe XS pot -- 2008-11-05

2008-11-05 Thread Martin Langhoff
I've been a bit silent lately, as I've just arrived to Boston and I'm trying to get organised. My plans right now are roughly - last round of testing of xs-0.5 - and release! (I know it's delayed -- blame the moodlemoots on one hand, and the deep work Douglas has done in understanding

Some 9.1/XO-camp-ish topics (Re: What's cooking inthe XS pot -- 2008-11-05)

2008-11-05 Thread Martin Langhoff
In the middle of my XS-focused post, there are a few notes on key conversations I hope to have this week with XO-focused folks... with XOcamp, without it, I don't care, seize the day: At 1CC there is quite a bit of interest in 9.1 planning. Even with xocamp delayed, I do want to get some

[Server-devel] ejabberd - limiting mem footprint notes

2008-11-05 Thread Martin Langhoff
This is part of our post-0.5 quest to make sure all compoenents degrade nicely in large scale setups. One of the key strategies is to cap the number of clients we serve if that helps control memory footprint. That is because network service workloads (and all the XS tasks are network services)

[Server-devel] ejabberd and roster mgmt

2008-11-05 Thread Martin Langhoff
More post xs-0.5 stuff that is fresh in my mind from discussions in the last few days. In schools with 3K XOs, our '@all@' roster is no longer useful, and actually messes up memory usage, bandwidth and the display on the client side. Wad has proposed running several ejabberd's as an interim

[Server-devel] Custom roster behaviour without writing your own mod_roster

2008-11-05 Thread Martin Langhoff
Hi all! For the OLPC School Server we are using ejabberd extensively -- so let me preface this with a heartfelt *thanks* to all the dev team and contributors for a fantastic piece of software. One of the things ejabberd is doing for us is roster and presence mgmt, which right now boils down to

Re: What's cooking inthe XS pot -- 2008-11-05

2008-11-05 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 3:31 PM, David Farning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you think xs will be stable enough to do a server related book sprint at Fedora/OLPC/Sugar (FOS)con? Is that mid January 09? I'd say 0.6 will be out by then, and should be a reasonable target to start documenting. Some

Re: [Sur] Error lease

2008-11-06 Thread Martin Langhoff
2008/11/6 Esteban Bordon [EMAIL PROTECTED]: quizá puede ser porque las claves de activación tienen una fecha de vencimiento, las claves son válidas por cierto período de tiempo y luego de ese período la XO se desactiva. Te deberían dar las claves nuevamente. Correcto. Hay otra causa posible,

Re: [Sur] Error lease

2008-11-06 Thread Martin Langhoff
2008/11/6 Henry Vélez Molina [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Pero, ¿Como se podría explicar que algunas Xo no identifiquen las llaves y otras si, si se encuentran en el mismo archivo? Cada XO tiene su propio reloj! :-) Reconsdera las respuestas que te hemos dado con ese detalle en mente... m -- [EMAIL

[Server-devel] XS 0.5 RC - getting closer...

2008-11-06 Thread Martin Langhoff
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/xs/other/OLPCXS-0.5-dev8-i386.iso This is our release candidate. Other than a minor change to the name of a config setting, I think we are _done_. I'll run one last set of tests - I specifically want to doublecheck that upgrades work cleanly from xs-0.4. Please join me

Re: [Server-devel] /etc/xs-sigchecks-enabled

2008-11-06 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 6:45 PM, Douglas Bagnall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Aha, what I have just implemented differs from this just slightly (due to me not reading/remembering properly): --strict causes xs-sum and xs-check to error if the flag is not set, regardless of any known keys. The way

Wrapping Sugar activities for other desktops

2008-11-06 Thread Martin Langhoff
Must preface this noting that I am relatively naive about Sugar internals. Your thoughts are stupid and your face ugly may be the most appropiate answer to this - after all, I know about the server, not the laptop :-) ... Thinking about how to extend the appeal (and long term viability!) of

Re: [sugar] Wrapping Sugar activities for other desktops

2008-11-07 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 5:00 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sounds good, it's on the list of the things I'd really like to do but I'm too swamped to put focus on :( Ah, great to hear I'm not so lost in the woods! - journal behaviour - though it might be relatively simple

[Server-devel] A moodle rpm postinst issue with Pg

2008-11-07 Thread Martin Langhoff
One thing I discovered -- and will have to fix -- is that the Moodle rpm assumed that postgres is running during postinst. This is clearly not the case when we're installing/upgrading via anaconda, so I'll have to move that to the init script. Nothing major -- we're getting close :-) m --

Re: [sugar] Wrapping Sugar activities for other desktops

2008-11-08 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 5:30 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 11:12 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My point is simply that we could create a very thin dummy layer that ... Ah. Implementations details aside, I start to see the direction

RW Compressed FUSE FSs? (Re: XS - XO archiving and backup)

2008-11-10 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 10:49 AM, Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On backup and restore, aside from the comments already mentioned, I suggest you pay careful attention to the available space on your XS. You should have about 2GB free space on your XS for each XO. If you don't have enough

Re: [sugar] Major differences between releases

2008-11-10 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 9:02 AM, Morgan Collett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've started http://wiki.laptop.org/go/API_changes to track Sugar and system API changes between releases. It's not very comprehensive so far - contributions welcome. Little nag: how about qualifiying that it's about the

Re: [Server-devel] RW Compressed FUSE FSs? (Re: XS - XO archiving and backup)

2008-11-10 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 11:17 AM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would get a real journal and check for real which is the compressibility of the data that is actually there. My uninformed guess is that most of the content is already compressed: png, zip, pdf (some/most), odt, ogg,

Re: [Server-devel] XS 0.4 to 0.5 upgrade (vs. reinstall) path

2008-11-10 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 12:32 PM, Jerry Vonau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Think you need change the default selection to one of the top two options at the boot prompt(install/upgrade gui/text), you may also need to pass 'upgradeany' at the boot prompt if your not offered upgrade as an option once

Re: RW Compressed FUSE FSs? (Re: XS - XO archiving and backup)

2008-11-10 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 11:17 AM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would get a real journal and check for real which is the compressibility of the data that is actually there. On a test machine with a good cross-section of activity documents, I gzipped all the files in the datastore

Re: [Server-devel] Issue with ds-backup in XS 0.4

2008-11-12 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 11:20 PM, Bill Bogstad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The failing machine shows overly permissive permissions on the key files. In particular, ds-backup.py generated the following message when it failed: Came across that exact same issue very early in the development of

Re: [Server-devel] XS 0.5 upgrade notes

2008-11-12 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 12:31 AM, Douglas Bagnall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some issues noticed with an upgrade from XS 0.4 to a XS 0.5 candidate. 1. eth0 and eth1 swapped physical ports. After swapping the cables and `service network restart`, everything was good. Yeah, that's worthy of a

Re: [Server-devel] XS 0.5 upgrade notes

2008-11-12 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 12:27 PM, Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As Martin says, can we put that in the release notes? I'll do that :-) Also on release notes, I was poking around in GIT and came across a bunch of very useful looking Readme files. Can we copy those in to the release

Re: an interesting filesystem challenge: static pull of wiki.laptop.org

2008-11-12 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 3:23 PM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: apache seems to perform reasonably well serving files from such huge directories. Should I be concerned? Can anyone suggest: ... b) whether reformatting with reiserfs or some other filesystem is worth the trouble?

Re: [Server-devel] XS 0.5 upgrade notes

2008-11-12 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 12:10 PM, Jerry Vonau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, since /etc/yum.conf is provided by yum itself, there should of been a yum.conf.rpm(olpc?)new file created as not to overwrite our modified one. Ok - I've pushed out a new xs-config that should address the issue. The

Boot-on-power setting for the XO?

2008-11-13 Thread Martin Langhoff
One of my mid-term goals is to be able to run the XS sw on the XO hw -- and one of the main recommendations I am making for configuration of the XS machines is that the BIOS is set to 'boot on power'. This is mainly because we want as much uptime as possible in locations with unreliable power

Re: [IAEP] Tentative talk schedule: Nov 19

2008-11-13 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 9:07 PM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... lots of interesting things... I'm very happy that the Sugar folks are in town -- under whatever alibi -- and I'm keen on meeting, having a beer together and perhaps talking a few technical things too ;-) After all,

Re: [Server-devel] suggest new mailing lists for OLPC

2008-11-14 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 11:16 AM, Bill Bogstad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can I suggest instead a new mailing list for server SUPPORT be created as opposed to DEVELOPMENT? And what about doing XO support on commmunity-support rather then devel? I think that both server-devel and devel are used

Re: [Server-devel] suggest new mailing lists for OLPC

2008-11-14 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 2:10 PM, Bill Bogstad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess I need to make myself more clear. I'm not telling developers not to be involved in support mailing lists. Nor am I suggesting that users shouldn't be allowed to drink from the development firehose if they desire.

Re: [sugar] [IAEP] Tentative talk schedule: Nov 19

2008-11-15 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 11:29 PM, Yamandu Ploskonka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hope for a chance to see a server in action, and it would be tops if I could see a server being set up from scratch. That might even justify I take a box with me... In a Montessori way, I learn best when things

Re: [Server-devel] iso size

2008-11-17 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 12:04 PM, Jerry Vonau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, the upgrade is not painful. The weird thing I found is about yum, $releasever, and fedora-updates.repo, we have two issues.. First with the use of xs-release when I do a rpm -q --whatprovides /etc/fedora-release I

Re: [Server-devel] iso size

2008-11-17 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 2:37 PM, Jerry Vonau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well other issues popped up, avahi from F7 appeared in a rpm -q avahi along with the one from F9 like above. Quick fix: rpm -e --justdb avahi-0.6.17-1.fc7.i386 I used the same kind of fix for the above fedora-release issue.

Re: [Server-devel] iso size

2008-11-17 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 11:23 AM, Martin Langhoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess we should have xs-release do: Obsoletes: fedora-release Ah, that only happens on an update, correct? Ok - so there's a new xs-release - a yum update should fix that up for you :-) respinning the wheels

Planning for XS-0.6

2008-11-17 Thread Martin Langhoff
To help my planning for 0.6, looked at the items in trac and in the 'XS moodle roadmap' wikipage, and grouped them thus - in no particular order...: - Infrastructure of the XS distro - Network infrastructure (including things like bind and proxies) - Installation - Management/Deployment

[Server-devel] Tidy up of the xs-0.5 yum repo - what differentiates OLPC's XS from vanilla Fedora?

2008-11-17 Thread Martin Langhoff
A useful bit of info, and a chance ot say thanks :-) The composition on the XS release 0.5 breaks down like this. A couple of packages that are in Fedora rawhide (or making a beeline for it), but we needed ahead of time - thanks to the many Fedorans that jumped in and helped!:

Re: [Server-devel] iso size

2008-11-17 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 3:14 PM, Jerry Vonau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, it's gone from xs-release -- why does it show up as active? Maybe we have to recommend a manual step, but what would that be? It's from fedora-release, and was used for the normal updates repo, until the key issue

Re: Planning for XS-0.6

2008-11-17 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 12:22 PM, Martin Langhoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of course, if you can help a bit and you have other priorities, you can make your feature happen in time for 0.6 too (and I'll try my darndest to help!) I've been asked in private for relatively easy things to tackle

Re: [Server-devel] rpm signing

2008-11-17 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 6:41 PM, Jerry Vonau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any plans on gpg signing for the rpm packages? That should be in place before you plan on a final release candidate, need the key on the iso and reflected in the repo files. Not for this - it's a good idea, but will come a

[Server-devel] Mini ejabberd workplan notes...

2008-11-17 Thread Martin Langhoff
From an chat earlier today with Douglas. Things we're trying to do on the ejabberd front: - Trying the SSL patch on the ejabberd version we use. P1 people say that the patch is ok to backport so... ... and of course load testing it to witness the magic decrease in memory, and how ssl compress

Re: [Server-devel] Setting up XS-0.5 for testing

2008-11-19 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 6:58 PM, Jerry Vonau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That is what I saw earlier on firstboot, named assumes a default name and starts up without /etc/sysconfig/xs_domain_name, while dhcpd doesn't start because /etc/sysconfig/xs_domain_name is not set. Shouldn't dhcpd be setup

Working on a theme - 'deployability'

2008-11-21 Thread Martin Langhoff
Early this week, in my xs-0.6 planning sessions I grouped the possible tasks under general themes because I felt that it was the right approach to prioritise/triage tasks with the very limited resources I have for the XS. It worked very well, and it allowed Greg and I to quickly figure out what

[Server-devel] Sorting out the status of lease serving - and client side

2008-11-25 Thread Martin Langhoff
One of the high priorities for the next release cycles of the XS is to get lease management sorted out. As much as possible, it must Just Work in deployments (though the definition of what it means to Just Work is a bit of a work in progress ;-) ). As part of that, I need to understand a bit

Re: [Server-devel] Installing XS on server for School District need some help

2008-11-25 Thread Martin Langhoff
2008/11/25 Josh Totoro [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello, I am a Tech Specialist for a school district in PA. There are 2 of Welcome to the list! Even if there's a bit of developer chatter, this is the place to be. A couple of initial ideas that might help: - Are you using the XS 0.5 installer? If

Re: Touch pads

2008-11-25 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 8:11 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the problem is that if they can't duplicate the problem they can't fix it (they can change things, but they have no way of knowing if it fixes the problem or not) Well, right now I'm in a rather hot and humid location (Buenos Aires,

Re: Sorting out the status of lease serving - and client side

2008-11-25 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 8:51 PM, John Gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And Permanently activated (developer key obtained). Actually, I think we also have a permanently activated with a '0' timestamp in the lease -- so I missed 2 states. But then that XO stops listening to the school server...so

OLPC XS 0.5 Released

2008-11-26 Thread Martin Langhoff
OLPC XS 0.5 is ready! -- the release was quietly made available about a week ago now but the week was insanely busy, so the announcement was held a bit. So if you haven'tdownloaded it yet, go now to http://xs-dev.laptop.org/xs/ This release includes a lot of additional functionality. Overall,

Re: [Server-devel] OLPC XS 0.5 Released

2008-11-27 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 10:33 AM, Martin Langhoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 1:17 AM, Bryan Berry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Martin, can u provide and .md5 for this and future releases? thanks I'll prepare that, and sign it with my GPG key. Don't know how widely published

Design notes for Moodle as education tool

2008-11-27 Thread Martin Langhoff
Last week I had a good chance to sit down with people from the Edu team @ OLPC, and we fleshed what were the main changes we'd need in Moodle to make it work for our users. The focus was on constructivism and making things easier for kids 6-12. The wikipage is here:

Re: Journal2 patches + timings + notes

2008-12-02 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 4:27 AM, Michael Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I also did a bit of timing on my XO, (see the 'timing' branch), wherein I learned, _anecdotally_ (i.e. with sample-size n=1) that: * startup time seems okay, but the initial query takes about 10s to return results.

Re: [sugar] [Proposal] .xot bundles, for translations

2008-12-02 Thread Martin Langhoff
edge enough to justify this, IMHO. cheers, martin langhoff -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff

Re: [sugar] [Proposal] .xot bundles, for translations

2008-12-02 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 6:49 PM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fedora does not have a standard solution either, so I'm not sure where you're going with this. We have to invent something. RPM is not obviously the right solution. So Fedora doesn't use rpm files for localization

Re: [sugar] [Proposal] .xot bundles, for translations

2008-12-02 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 7:34 PM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please re-read Sayamindu's original message. Thanks. I don't find anything too special there. Perhaps I wasn't clear earlier. What I meant to say is that all the good things we get from a bespoke packaging format, we can

Re: [sugar] [Proposal] .xot bundles, for translations

2008-12-04 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 8:33 PM, Martin Langhoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I meant to say is that all the good things we get from a bespoke packaging format, we can get from rpm with a few conventions as to the directories where things land. A couple of additional notes from a private

Re: [Server-devel] XS 0.5 Second Attempt at eth1

2008-12-04 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 1:14 PM, Reuben K. Caron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I too am having problems with DHCP (and ejabberd) on XS 0.5. That's interesting! Thanks for the writeup... I reviewed /etc/sysconfig/olpc-scripts/dhcpd.conf.1 - It did not match dhcpd-xs.conf I ran ./network-config 1

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