Re: Stability and Memory Pressure in 8.2

2008-09-09 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 9:13 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i wrote: i think there's definitely a sugar shell leak. here's some partial data, gathered from a few machines on my desk right now. (be careful with the column headings -- i rearranged partway through to get separate

Re: Stability and Memory Pressure in 8.2

2008-09-09 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 9:24 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: tomeu wrote: On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 9:13 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (there are a lot of variables in play here -- the main thing is that something's certainly leaking.) The shell shouldn't be doing anything while idle,

Re: Cmap tools (was [Techteam] Weekend Report - due today)

2008-09-04 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 4:00 PM, Bert Freudenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am 04.09.2008 um 01:06 schrieb Michael Stone: On Wed, Sep 03, 2008 at 05:33:28PM -0400, Greg Smith wrote: Has anyone tried making the activity which is X-windows and inside which other activities can run? [1] and

Re: Frimware Q2E15 and Joyride-2368, good and bad

2008-09-03 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 4:07 AM, Ton van Overbeek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: C. Scott Ananian wrote: On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 10:02 PM, Ton van Overbeek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The bad: - Bounce (aka 3Dpong) has become completely unplayable. The screen update is very jerky. In earlier builds

Re: Google Chrome activity?

2008-09-03 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 3:02 PM, Ton van Overbeek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Christoph Derndorfer wrote: Anyway, since it really targets the high-end (each tab running its own process with own virtual machine for JS etc.) I doubt it will run nicely on the XO. The renderer is based on WebKit.

Re: [Techteam] Weekend Report - due today

2008-08-31 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 8:52 PM, Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Follow up on Cmap tools Looks quite interesting, where can we get more details? Regards, Tomeu ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org

Re: Scratch activity problems

2008-08-26 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 8:27 PM, Daniel Drake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John Maloney (scratch developer) is aware of both issues. He is considering making Scratch use the journal in future, but this is a large amount of work. May not be so much work? I would love to discuss this and help on

Re: #7426 BLOC 8.2.0 (: Journal in f7 disappears after olpc-update to f9

2008-08-21 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 11:50 AM, Zarro Boogs per Child [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: #7426: Journal in f7 disappears after olpc-update to f9 -+-- Reporter: mikus | Owner: tomeu Type: defect |

Re:

2008-08-20 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 5:53 AM, Brian Harvey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I solved the problem for my own XO by adding the missing links, but that won't work for a project distributed to the kiddies. Can someone tell me the right way to solve this problem? Thanks. I don't really know, but: are

Re: Journal activity profiling

2008-08-14 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 12:32 AM, Michael Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 12:13:14PM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: Yeah, no C-level function takes an absurd amount of time. It's python code that makes too much work than is really needed. It's not python code proper; it's

Re: Datastore profiling

2008-08-13 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 3:30 PM, riccardo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Testcase: Fill the datastore with `many small' objects. Which user-perceived action are you investigating? The test was automated with the script at: http://dev.laptop.org/~rlucchese/datastore_fill/fill_ds Why the need

Re: Datastore profiling

2008-08-13 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 12:10 PM, riccardo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2008-08-13 at 11:41 +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 3:30 PM, riccardo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Testcase: Fill the datastore with `many small' objects. Which user-perceived action are you

Re: Journal activity profiling

2008-08-13 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 6:07 PM, Eben Eliason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 12:02 PM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 5:20 PM, riccardo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2008-08-13 at 12:13 +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 12:10

Re: sugar start-up profiling

2008-08-01 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 7:55 AM, riccardo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2008-07-31 at 17:27 +0100, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 3:15 PM, riccardo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess that's for the mesh and friends view? Oh, right! +1 for changing the algorithm. Eben, can you

Re: Your journal is empty

2008-08-01 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 3:26 AM, Mikus Grinbergs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Recently, I have on two occasions with Joyride (2229+, 2232) pressed ctl-alt-erase in order to restart Sugar. Both times. when Sugar came up, the Journal screen told me 'Your journal is empty'. If unwanted emptying of

Re: Your journal is empty

2008-08-01 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 11:55 AM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 3:26 AM, Mikus Grinbergs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Recently, I have on two occasions with Joyride (2229+, 2232) pressed ctl-alt-erase in order to restart Sugar. Both times. when Sugar came up

Re: [sugar] Remarks on the Work of Sugar (kid contributions)

2008-08-01 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 4:14 AM, Bastien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John Gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: you can't just share a file, you have to share an activity, ... Right. Idea for a new activity: Candy Bag. You open a bag (i.e. you launch the CandyBag activity), then you put journal

Re: [sugar] Your journal is empty

2008-08-01 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 1:24 PM, Shikhar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 3:26 AM, Mikus Grinbergs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Recently, I have on two occasions with Joyride (2229+, 2232) pressed ctl-alt-erase in order to restart Sugar. Both times. when Sugar

Re: sugar start-up profiling

2008-07-31 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 3:15 PM, riccardo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Problem: sugar starts up slowly on the xo Tests were ran on an xo after a clean joyride-2181 install plus sucrose's activities. A graph of the ending part of the boot process can be found at:

Re: Feedback from deployment lead

2008-07-30 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi Greg, thanks for sending this one. Would be a good step forward if we found the way to connect field feedback to the testing team, so they can enter proper tickets that can track real improvements. I really hope that 9.1.0 will bring serious improvements regarding robustness of the datastore.

Re: [Testing] Random observations with joyride-2225 and latest activities

2008-07-30 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Sound like quite good points to me, can you make sure we have proper tickets for those? Thanks a lot, Tomeu On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 2:26 AM, Christoph Derndorfer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I've been running joyride-2225 with what I believe to be the latest versions (as per the update

Re: [sugar] Programming environments on the XO

2008-07-30 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 12:44 PM, Martin Sevior [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 2008-07-18 at 14:50 +1000, Martin Sevior wrote: On Thu, 2008-07-17 at 23:32 -0400, Brian Jordan wrote: The open source project Gobby also uses this sort of who-wrote-what text highlighting, SJ and I have

Re: QUERY REGARDING INTERFACING OF TOOLBAR

2008-07-24 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi, where is the xocom source repository? I know nothing about xocom, but I recommend you to code a simple python-only activity first to familiarize with that part of the problem, and only then coming back to the SocialCalc Activity. Take a look to this activity:

Re: [sugar] Remarks on the Work of Sugar

2008-07-23 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 9:36 AM, Simon Schampijer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael Stone wrote: After mild provocation, Marco and Tomeu asked me to publish some of my reactions to sugar's architecture, design, and implementation. Here are a few initial comments. 1) Sugar could better hold

Re: no activities after 656 -- joyride. but wait...

2008-07-23 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 11:54 PM, Eben Eliason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, Tomeu, What's the state of #7220? It's still open, but I thought this was already taken care of by including a default activities.default in the build, so that even if the country doesn't supply one, kids don't

Re: For review: NAND out of space patch.

2008-07-22 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 5:53 PM, John Watlington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm getting three images right now. One of the machines booted, but wouldn't allow any activities to launch (which since you can't log in on vttys kinda locks down the machine). But I did notice a large number of

Re: For review: NAND out of space patch.

2008-07-22 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 8:26 PM, Erik Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 01:58:29PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: jim wrote: Ah, I like this idea better than the previous I've heard; if we can uninstall software or cleanup the journal with human intervention, that

Re: For review: NAND out of space patch.

2008-07-22 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 8:28 PM, Jim Gettys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The simplest UI would be a size-sorted view of the journal. We could do something like this easily without accessing the DS, now that we have the metadata in json files. Eben, ideas? Thanks, Tomeu

Re: For review: NAND out of space patch.

2008-07-22 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 4:21 AM, Chris Ball [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Deleting a file from the datastore doesn't delete its entry in the index. Resuming a Journal entry with no corresponding file usually produces a blank document in the activity being resumed. This may be easy to

joyride builds failing due to insufficient space

2008-07-21 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi, sugar - 0.81.6-4.20080715git8137d5c37f.fc9.i386: Insufficient space in download directory /home/cscott/public_html/xo-1/streams/joyride/build2187-20080720_2235/devel_jffs2/install_root/var/cache/yum/olpc_development/packages to download Regards, Tomeu

Re: NAND out of space crash

2008-07-21 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi, agreed on the action items, not so sure about the roadmap. On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 7:39 PM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: d) trying to save new content to the journal should also give an obvious message that the NAND is full. Should the DS also reserve some free space?

Re: PlayGo Patches/Commit access

2008-07-20 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
2008/7/20 Andrés Ambrois [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Saturday 19 July 2008 21:25:55 Nate Ridderman wrote: Andrés, Go is one of my favorite games, so I'm excited to see that someone has picked up development again! It requires such balance between aggressiveness and defense, as well as local play

Re: [sugar] Autosave in 8.2.0?

2008-07-20 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 5:44 PM, Bert Freudenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am 17.07.2008 um 07:37 schrieb Bert Freudenberg: Am 17.07.2008 um 00:10 schrieb Tomeu Vizoso: Marco has added a session manager to Sugar (in 8.2.0) that takes care of telling activities to save their work because

Re: [sugar] Question about clipboard service

2008-07-19 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 10:29 PM, Faisal Anwar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'm playing around with the clipboard package on sugar and had a quick question. So, the clipboardservice.py file shows some basic api for getting and setting objects on the clipboard through the dbus. However, the

Re: wxWidgets under Sugar?

2008-07-19 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 12:14 AM, Brian Harvey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone already gotten wxWidgets to work with Sugar? If so, that would save me a lot of duplicated effort -- right now, any wxWidgets program I try to run immediately seg faults. Thanks. (This is to help in getting

Re: Autosave in 8.2.0?

2008-07-19 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 4:37 PM, Bert Freudenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am 17.07.2008 um 00:10 schrieb Tomeu Vizoso: Marco has added a session manager to Sugar (in 8.2.0) that takes care of telling activities to save their work because the system is being shut down. Haven't verified

Re: Report on `views with many icons' profiling

2008-07-19 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
This is really awesome, congrats. I would like to know how much time takes every switch (including the redraw), is that 130ms and 170ms? Looks like it should be more to me. Also, would like to see as well a top-down analysis, which are the top 3-5 high level operations that take most CPU? Are

Re: [sugar] Write needs your help (was Re: Programming environments on the XO)

2008-07-19 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 12:11 AM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 4:51 PM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, I agree that this is a goal that makes a lot of sense. Unfortunately, my experience says that the approach you are suggesting won't be less

Re: Re: Faster Launch of Activities

2008-07-19 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 11:13 AM, riccardo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2008-07-15 at 11:47 +0200, riccardo wrote: On Tue, 2008-07-15 at 05:01 -0400, Greg Smith wrote: description? It would be useful to see a comparison of build 656 v 703 v 708 v latest joyride. That's a lot so

Re: Quick tabbing profiling (was Re: Report on `activities switching' profiling)

2008-07-19 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
2008/7/18 Benjamin Berg [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello, On Fri, 2008-07-18 at 12:51 -0400, Eben Eliason wrote: Can someone make sense of this for me? Ben, do you see anything we can optimize here? I've noticed while quick-tabbing on my XO that the gray selection box doesn't usually update as I

Re: [sugar] Question about clipboard service

2008-07-19 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
, titles, and previews for clippings). In fact, getting this API working effectively is high on my list of priorities for 9.1 - Eben On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 4:19 AM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 10:29 PM, Faisal Anwar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'm

[Server-devel] patched bundles for EduBlog

2008-07-19 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi EduBlog team, have uploaded new 656 bundles for Write and Browse that should be able to respectively import images and upload files regardless of how many files are in the journal: http://dev.laptop.org/~tomeu/Write-54.xo http://dev.laptop.org/~tomeu/Browse-77.xo Note that these bundles

Re: Autosave in 8.2.0?

2008-07-17 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 9:00 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 8:58 PM, Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I heard we may have implemented some interim saving feature since 656. Does anyone know anything about that? Not sure what that refers to. Tomeu

Write needs your help (was Re: [sugar] Programming environments on the XO)

2008-07-17 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 8:01 AM, Bobby Powers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marc is a bit of a perfectionist so I'm not sure how usable 95% of the work is and whether it could be finished by simply using it and providing bug reports as needed would be. Is this something the community could help

Re: [sugar] Display warnings in sugar

2008-07-17 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 2:27 AM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/7/16 Eben Eliason [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Two answers: similar issues. This is going to be handled by the notification system, which is in its infancy in the upcoming 8.2 release, but should mature and I hope our

Re: [sugar] Display warnings in sugar

2008-07-17 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
they can delete some stuff before everything crashes. We'll try to figure out something, but help will be appreciated! On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 6:21 AM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 2:27 AM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/7/16 Eben Eliason

Re: [sugar] Write needs your help (was Re: Programming environments on the XO)

2008-07-17 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 7:02 PM, Erik Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 10:16:07AM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: If we cannot bring all the abiword potential to Sugar's Write, we risk someone will start asking for running unsugarized OpenOffice or Abiword on the XO, just

Re: [sugar] Write needs your help (was Re: Programming environments on the XO)

2008-07-17 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 9:37 PM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lots of reasonable points made on this thread. The two cents I'd like to throw in are: $0.01: we shouldn't feel like shipping unsugarized apps is a failure: better an working app w/ crappy UI than no working app at

Re: [sugar] Write needs your help (was Re: Programming environments on the XO)

2008-07-17 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 9:44 PM, Edward Cherlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 12:10 PM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 8:58 PM, Edward Cherlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 1:16 AM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote

Re: [sugar] Display warnings in sugar

2008-07-17 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 9:44 PM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 5:21 AM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 2:27 AM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hope our alert system will use the freedesktop.org standard: http

Re: New joyride build 2165

2008-07-16 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Here is a workaround: http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/7514#comment:7 Tomeu On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 10:06 AM, Walter Bender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: :( No network after loading this build. -walter On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 5:31 PM, Build Announcer v2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: Java

2008-07-16 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
, People First Network Tel: +677 76396(m) 24419(h) 26358 (w) www.leeming-consulting.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tomeu Vizoso Sent: Tuesday, 15 July 2008 9:12 p.m. To: David Leeming Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Java 2008/7

Re: Journal data loss warning

2008-07-15 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 12:51 AM, Gary C Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just a quick warning to developers hopping between old and new builds. Today while trying to debug an issue with DNS resolution behind an Access Point I reverted (from joyride-2149) to the official release Update-1 703

Re: Recovered journal (Was: Journal data loss warning)

2008-07-15 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 2:43 AM, Gary C Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 15 Jul 2008, at 00:24, Martin Langhoff wrote: On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 10:51 AM, Gary C Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Many thanks for the hint Martin (and I think to Tomeu for the directory rename escape hatch)!

Re: Journal metadata - buddies as a string?

2008-07-15 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 7:14 AM, Martin Langhoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looking at the .metadata files that the Journal now maintains, I find that the buddies field is a string that stores a multidimensional array... is this a bug? Or perhaps Xapian cannot sture md arrays? Either way, looks

Re: Faster Launch of Activities

2008-07-15 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi Greg, On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 5:35 PM, Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Tomeu et al, One persistent request from the users is for faster response of the XO (e.g. http://sextosdela37.blogspot.com/2008/04/analizando-el-uso-de-las-laptop-en-el.html) I believe the new Sugar GUI in

Re: Faster Launch of Activities

2008-07-15 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 7:57 PM, Chris Ball [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, perhaps it would be possible to add log entries at the interesting points of activity startup, so that the timing data is always available on a regular basis. I've done this in the tinderbox, but what I've

Re: Java

2008-07-15 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
2008/7/15 David Leeming [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Just been browsing the Java pages on the wiki and confirming to myself the Sun Java version installs but the plugin does not load. A pity, as I have installed on a school server an excellent UNESCO CD of educational materials Strengthening ICTs in

Re: Code name for 9.1.0

2008-07-15 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 1:43 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: morgan wrote: On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 11:56, Richard A. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greg Smith wrote: Ideas so far. Please vote or propose a new one: Freire mango Papert I'm +1 for mango. I think

Re: Datastore/Journal + [IAEP] Coloring books on the XO?

2008-07-14 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Sun, Jul 13, 2008 at 8:57 AM, Brian Jordan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is One More Thing that would be a lot simpler and extensible with a more flexible journal/datastore (meaning storing Pictures, Audio, Video, Data [csv files], etc in a way that can be shared between activities). It

Re: low power actions?

2008-07-14 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 7:33 PM, Gary C Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One concern I have with auto saving state before powering off is the potential corruption of journal data. How robust is the Journal if power off happens half way through an ongoing auto state save – do you loose both the

Re: LZO support

2008-07-14 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 6:19 PM, Chris Ball [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Based on some very provisional testing, I believe that the extremely long save times we're seeing in EToys are at least partly related to our use of zlib compression for data nodes in the filesystem. We

Re: Activity Backward Compatibility (was re: Re: joyride 2128 smoketest)

2008-07-14 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 6:37 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 6:32 PM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, there's nothing saying that this has to be a particular person's email address. It could be a list, or a mailinator account, or pass

Re: LZO support

2008-07-14 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 7:07 PM, Erik Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 12:50:26PM -0400, Chris Ball wrote: Hi, I prefer aiming at #2886 (Some files shouldn't be compressed by jffs2), which goes a long way to solving the user problems without introducing

Re: LZO support

2008-07-14 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 7:27 PM, Chris Ball [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Another option is to provide a one-time flag passed at file creation time (O_CREAT) to enable/disable compression. This would also require VFS changes but I think would be simpler; however, this case has the

Re: permission to add activity to joyride

2008-07-09 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 1:35 AM, Polychronis Ypodimatopoulos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I 'm asking for permission to add an activity to Joyride to be used primarily for debugging cerebro. Hi, Pol, AFAIK activities are not included in joyride any more, I suggest you to add it to

Re: Incidental notes.

2008-07-09 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 2:55 AM, Michael Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Jul 08, 2008 at 08:40:36PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: * updates to the puritan UI and the f9 compilation which make combine to deliver a bootable image. (As of this instant, you'll need to start X manually with

Re: Introduction to `picker' and git link

2008-07-09 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 12:07 AM, Michael Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps you could modify the display so that each track is prominently labeled with the full arguments to the process? Yes, I'm curious to see the same graph with the process name as well as the full command. Thanks,

Re: (another) WebKit port of Browse

2008-07-08 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 10:37 AM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The real question to me is whether there are size (memory nand) disadvantages to Firefox. Othewise it's just a practical problem of finding enough resources to implement a Firefox extension to match the current

Re: Home View appearance

2008-07-08 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 9:37 AM, NoiseEHC [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could we at least select the ring view by default? I see the free form view as unnecessary crap because the last thing I want is to reorder icons by using the touchpad. Did anybody actually try that exercise? Also the list view

Re: (another) WebKit port of Browse

2008-07-08 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 6:32 PM, Jim Gettys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2) the lack of a certificate UI has hampered our Browse usage primarily in G1G1 developed world situations: this tells me while it is of concern, it's not as high priority as some other issues might be, certainly lower than

Re: (another) WebKit port of Browse

2008-07-08 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 8:05 PM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 1:32 PM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We could add many more of the missing features to Browse if all the developers weren't so busy with the rest of Sugar. Also, although most

Re: (another) WebKit port of Browse

2008-07-08 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 8:23 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 C. Scott Ananian wrote: | On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 1:32 PM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | We could add many more of the missing features to Browse if all

Re: [Server-devel] Some documentation for DS-Backup

2008-07-08 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
2008/7/8 Robson Mendonça [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Tomeu, what you think about the Journal can be able to download directly a old entry from XS? Well, at any time that a bundle in the format described below is put into the datastore (say by downloading it with Browse), the journal will expand it and

Re: 8.2 Kernel status update

2008-07-05 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 10:47 PM, Chris Ball [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Dave looked at it and doesn't like the implementation. I can throw it into our joyride along with the needed changes to olpcrd to mount with a root reservation of 4M or so as a stop-gap to a better solution

Re: sugar-datastore-0.8.2 ds-backup on F7

2008-07-04 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 12:44 AM, Martin Langhoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just realised that the python-cjson dependency of sugar-datastore-0.8.2 (which is req'd by ds-backup) makes it hard to support on F7 (we'd need a backport of python-cjson). Not sure if the F9 port landed in joyride...

Re: [sugar] Question about internationalization on sugar-jhbuild

2008-07-03 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi, from that strace log, seems like gettext thinks you are in the en locale, right? How are you running your activity? Regards, Tomeu On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 11:50 PM, Faisal Anwar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello All, I'm trying to set up some simple internationalization on a sugar activity

Re: Inappropriate use of private meetings lists. (reply to).

2008-07-03 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 4:15 AM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/7/2 Dennis Gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I personally really dislike being CC'd on lists im subscribed to I find it extremely poor netiquette of all the mailing lists im subscribed to FWIW, I prefer the oppposite.

release contracts

2008-07-03 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi, two things that surprised me today when looking at trac: https://dev.laptop.org/ticket/7382 is assigned to me, but Simon is the Browse maintainer (and coded most of the changes this release). https://dev.laptop.org/ticket/7381 is assigned to Marco, but those features were coded by me. Also,

Re: [sugar] Question about internationalization on sugar-jhbuild

2008-07-03 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
'. Then I open up a terminal and do 'sugar-launch annotate'. I tried it with other activities and they seem to work just fine with translation. Faisal On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 8:38 AM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, from that strace log, seems like gettext thinks you are in the en

Re: Release 8.2.0 -- pls add critical features

2008-07-03 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Yeah, may be quite easy, please send patches ;) Tomeu On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 5:59 PM, Eben Eliason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, a Sugar dev can comment on the feasibility, but I don't think that the specification will actually be that difficult to add. I'm just calling for an additional

Re: Recent Updates to Sugar Almanac

2008-07-01 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi Faisal, sorry to get to this so late, are there any outstanding doubts? The DS is right now a big mess due to long-standing bugs and basic features still unimplemented. I hope that during the next release significant resources will be allocated to this, if in the meantime you could suggest

Re: Updates This Week to the Sugar Almanac - Using the Datastore and More

2008-07-01 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 5:17 PM, Faisal Anwar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Tomeu, Thanks so much for the clarifications. I understand now the abstraction intended for metadata accessed through DSMetadata and DSObject and will try to write that up a little more forcefully. I guess the main

Re: embedding evince

2008-06-30 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Aleksandar Kalev wrote: I was wondering if there is any additional information/documentation (besides the source code of the Read activity) on how to embed evince in a Python application. Hi, I'm afraid we don't have any written docs like that. If I had to do another activity that used the

Re: [sugar] [SURVEY] builders, how do you build? what do you build?

2008-06-30 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Erik Garrison wrote: 0) Who are you and who do you directly work for? Tomeu, contracted by OLPC. 1) What do you build? regularly: sugar, sugar-artwork, sugar-toolkit, sugar-base, sugar-datastore, journal bundle (.xo). 2) Where does it come from? / Who directly provides you with source

Re: Running regular X11 apps

2008-06-27 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 11:12 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: this wouldn't require changing any code on any apps, just selecting the right window manager for that desktop (if the app never opens secondary windows it doesn't need any decorations, if it does, it may

Re: Updates This Week to the Sugar Almanac - Using the Datastore and More

2008-06-25 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi Faisal, some answers below: 2008/6/24 Faisal Anwar [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ?? Is there a specific reason why there isn't a set() method in the datastore.DSMetadata class? Shouldn't people be given standard accessors and mutators to work with this code. This is especially confusing because it

Re: Making speech-dispatcher python API support asynchronous socket communication (long)

2008-06-23 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
synchronously and then hooks into a toolkit-specific mainloop. With regards, Hynek Hanke Tomeu Vizoso píše v Ne 22. 06. 2008 v 09:39 +0200: On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 6:42 PM, Tomas Cerha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hynek Hanke wrote: It seems to me a clearer solution

Re: Making speech-dispatcher python API support asynchronous socket communication

2008-06-22 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 6:42 PM, Tomas Cerha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hynek Hanke wrote: It seems to me a clearer solution to just let the speechd SSIP bindings do their work in their own thread than to extract part of the internals into your program (the socket selects). Yes, this would

joyride builds failing

2008-06-22 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi, looks like the server where joyride builds are done is having disk space problems From http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build2059/devel_jffs2/build.log : Error Summary - Disk Requirements: At least 367MB needed on the

Re: Making speech-dispatcher python API support asynchronous socket communication

2008-06-20 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 12:08 PM, Hemant Goyal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When the handshaking is taking place the gtk mainloop has not yet started and hence we cannot rely on the event generated by gobject to read data off the socket. And if this handshaking does not take place the API

Fwd: Help requested test bidi/complex scripts for abiword stable branch.

2008-06-18 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Subject: Help requested test bidi/complex scripts for abiword stable branch. To: Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi everyone, AbiWord provides the foundation for the write activity within sugar. Very recently we discovered critical bu in our 2.6

Re: [Server-devel] [PATCH] ds_backup - major rework

2008-06-16 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 7:57 PM, Martin Langhoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 1:53 PM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 7:46 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Martin Langhoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Use json (part of the XO base install) instead

Re: Question about logging behavior

2008-06-16 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
2008/6/16 Faisal Anwar [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Now, when I start my activity up, I don't find any logs that are written to with the logging message. However, when I resume the activity from the journal, I do see the logging message that I have written in my code. Does anyone know why logging seems

Re: [sugar] journal object transfer for 8.2

2008-06-10 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 11:09 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 10:12 PM, Michael Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So the questions are: is this a feature we should deliver for the 8.2 release? In my opinion, no. Do you think differently? Personally I

cerebro in sugar (was Re: New, more realistic multi-hop network testbed)

2008-06-10 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 7:59 AM, Polychronis Ypodimatopoulos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought I covered this scenario quite thoroughly; cerebro enabled about 70 laptops to chat in a simple mesh, even without using an access point or a school server. I got no useful comments, nor was there any

Re: OLPC: Open Organized Transparent

2008-06-10 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 9:55 PM, Michael Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jun 04, 2008 at 02:50:30PM -0400, Garrett Goebel wrote: How many Full Time Equivalent hours does a given developer represent? A guesstimate: about 25 hrs/wk of coding and 30 hrs/wk of talking for social folks,

Re: python imports and performance (was Re: #5549 ...)

2008-06-09 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 6:35 PM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Measuring the performance impact of shuffling imports is tricky. At the moment, all of our modules have imports at the top, so all it takes is *one* module with a bad import at the top to basically charge everyone the

Re: [Server-devel] EduBlog Revised Project Plan

2008-06-09 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 7:00 PM, Alexander Dupuy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greg Smith wrote: For starters, there's no group edit needed. They can share browse if they want to edit concurrently. I was thinking of just post or start over as the first pass. Like a lot of people, Greg

Re: Trac: release management

2008-06-06 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 10:25 PM, Garrett Goebel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 3:55 PM, Michael Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: By bartering for the time of the people whose help you need. I can't even contact the owner of ticket #6454. Apparently, I'm supposed to go on IRC,

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