Re: Mini-Conference Proposal: olpcfs

2008-04-03 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 7:42 PM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 11:44 AM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 5:35 PM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Delta-based storage is an implementation detail, certainly

new sugar work into joyride

2008-04-03 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi all, the last joyride build (1825) includes a big part of the shell redesign explained in http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Designs. What you can see today in the builds is what most probably will go into update.2, but there's still lots of work to do in completing the specifications, some code

Re: [sugar] Choosing defaults for the activity ring

2008-04-05 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Ok, so the plan currently is for Sugar to keep shipping an activities.default with the same format as the existing one. The favorites file in the user profile will store the mtime and size of the activities.default file that merged by last time. At startup, the shell will check if it should merge

Re: [sugar] Mini-Conference Proposal: Toolbars Tabs (or lack thereof)

2008-04-05 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
What if on rollover would appear a normal palette with all the buttons that would be in the subtoolbar? This palette would have an option for pinning it, and that would mean inserting a subtoolbar between the toolbar and the canvas like in the mockups. Benefits: - palettes don't disturb the

Re: New faster build 1825

2008-04-07 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 9:13 PM, Build Announcer v2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/faster/build1825 Couldn't update: -bash-3.2# olpc-update -rfvv faster-1825 Downloading contents of build faster-1825. @ERROR: unknown module 'build-faster-1825': Command

trac stopped sending email to the bugs mailing list

2008-04-08 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi Henry, looks like trac is not sending emails to the bugs ml any more since 29th March: http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/bugs/ Can you please look at that? Thanks, Tomeu ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org

Re: Build Debate: Followup on Build Naming

2008-04-08 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
hmm, Sugar aims to be available as an alternative desktop in all kinds of linux distros, so would be a bad name for an OLPC-made distro. Tomeu On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 5:13 PM, Walter Bender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This discussion reminds me of a favorite puzzle from Douglas Hofstadter 0, 1,

Re: RPMs and Activity bundles

2008-04-09 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
2008/4/9 Charles Merriam [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hmm.. More details? Hi, google told me this may interest you ;) http://www.rpm.org/max-rpm/ch-rpm-reloc.html Cheers, Tomeu ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org

Re: Chilling Effects paper at USENIX

2008-04-09 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 6:21 AM, Mitch Bradley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It would have been nice if the criticisms had been delivered directly to OLPC, instead of broadcast in a public forum, where enemies of OLPC can cite and expand on them as evidence that OLPC is hopelessly screwed up, so

Re: [PATCH] Remove Ctrl-O (the letter oh) keyboard shortcut to fix #4646

2008-04-09 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Pushed, will be in next sugar release. Thanks, Martin! Tomeu On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 4:41 PM, Eben Eliason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, I'm fine with this. - Eben On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 6:53 AM, Martin Dengler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Eben, There's been a trac bug open for a

Re: [Server-devel] Transfers between xo and school-server

2008-04-10 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi, 2008/4/8 Robson Mendonça [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi! Could you please copy it to wiki.laptop.org? Yep! I did it. http://wiki.laptop.org/go/AMADIS Thanks! What do you mean by update the XO through the web? You mean http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Olpc-update ? Yep again. I don't know if

Re: Usability testing

2008-04-13 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 2:37 AM, Patrick Dubroy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If there's one conclusion we can make here, it's that we could do a better job in coordinating our usability efforts. In the next few days, I'll try to set up a central place on the wiki that can use to do this.

Re: OLPC News (2008-04-12) - Addendum

2008-04-13 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
2008/4/12 Kim Quirk [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Additional community news that didn't make it into Walter's email: I'm very pleased to see a more technical weekly news posted to the mailing lists. I'll try to give more detailed info about my work (and invite others to do the same) so all the community

Re: Making Plans

2008-04-13 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 7:17 PM, Michael Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tomeu, Thanks very much for stepping up with such good questions. I'm sorry that I haven't got more in the way of answers, but here's what I've got: On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 02:18:33PM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote

Re: Clipboard Notification

2008-04-14 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi Eric, 2008/4/14 Eric Burns [EMAIL PROTECTED]: When an activity launches it brings up an instance of the notification icon in the activity tray. I'm trying to make it so when someone copies something instead of it popping up the frame for a second it shows a pulsing notification icon in the

Re: Devel Digest, Vol 26, Issue 65

2008-04-14 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 8:30 PM, James Simmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Morgan, I am one of those people developing activities that make use of collaboration. I'm pleased to see that someone has been charged to make that easier, especially through better documentation. My Activities are

Re: [sugar] Clipboard Notification

2008-04-15 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 5:08 AM, Eric Burns [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While trying to create an instance of NotificationIcon() in the _object_added_cb function in clipboardtray.py I couldn't get the path to the icon from the ClipboardIcon() instance because it isn't set until

Re: [sugar] Record (was Re: VoiceThreads ... a very interesting education service)

2008-04-16 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 11:05 AM, Morgan Collett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 4:48 AM, Gary C Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe if Journal item sharing arrives as some point, this will be a practical way of generating and sharing similar content. Yes - although

Re: [Server-devel] [sugar] sugar roadmap

2008-04-16 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 2:52 PM, Martin Langhoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 8:29 PM, Benj. Mako Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 10:02 PM, Martin Langhoff Personally, I have been dreaming of a mix between ion3 and Sugar's

Re: New Planning Thoughts draft.

2008-04-17 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 12:02 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Smaller-and-faster (focused) releases are an interesting idea but I think they are also quite a challenge. We need to ensure that we are able to parallelize the various streams. For example, if we do a

Re: version of draft used in the last generation of olpc

2008-04-17 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
2008/4/17 wahida mansouri [EMAIL PROTECTED]: hello ; I want to know which version of draft is used in the last generation of olpc. Hi, what do you mean by 'draft'? Can you be more specific? Thanks, Tomeu ___ Devel mailing list

Re: write_file() called when changing Activity name

2008-04-17 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 6:27 PM, Urko Fernandez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a way to know whether the write_file() method is called while changing the name of the activity or when closing the activity? I want to delete a file created in the instance folder after closing the activity.

Re: What about Sugar? (Was: Mtg with Nicholas at 3pm on Thursday)

2008-04-19 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 8:13 AM, John Watlington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 18, 2008, at 2:27 PM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 5:48 PM, John Watlington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 18, 2008, at 6:24 AM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 8:04 AM

Re: list of laptops connected to jabber

2008-04-19 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
2008/4/19 Giannis Galanis [EMAIL PROTECTED]: When connecting to a jabber server, how can we check the list of XOs that are seen in the mesh view, or the analyze activity? Is checking the gabble log the only way? What records in the log indicate arrival or departure? When testing with 50 or

Re: Translation refresh

2008-04-21 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
2008/4/20 Kim Quirk [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Bernie, I'd like to make two points regarding your notes: 1 - OLPC cannot be responsible for activities. So it is really much better that the activities are now separate from the base code to help get this point across to the country. As a 'sales' type

Re: to be deployed Epaati version is out!

2008-04-21 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi, On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 10:38 AM, Ties Stuij [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... This build, version 10, sports a whopping 47 activities, which is why it's 105 mb in size. The loading time of individual activities has also diminished by quite a bit (sometimes loading is 3 to 4 times as

Re: New joyride build 1889

2008-04-21 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Cannot boot this build, it hangs after saying it is loading the ramdisk. Tomeu On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 6:00 PM, Build Announcer v2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build1889 Changes in build 1889 from build: 1870 Size delta: 17.57M

Re: [Server-devel] The road towards xs-0.3

2008-04-22 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 4:32 AM, Martin Langhoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 9:49 AM, Martin Langhoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So with all these tours, my planned xs-0.3 is a bit delayed. Being in NZ, and with a proper private office, it won't take long. Any news about

Re: Synchronizing xs-0.3 and xo-??? --- backups

2008-04-22 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 6:46 AM, Martin Langhoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Michael, thanks for looking into this - I had the wikipage in my sight, but not the bugs you listed. Excellent, reading up to fill the gaps. Based on feedback from Peru, Mexico, and Nepal, the restoration from

Re: Synchronizing xs-0.3 and xo-??? --- backups

2008-04-22 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
2008/4/22 Martin Langhoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 10:18 PM, Ivan Krstić [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My solution is the simplest design I could create that allows both emergency restore (laptop FS has been trashed, get everything back) and individual file restore and

Re: Synchronizing xs-0.3 and xo-??? --- backups

2008-04-22 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
2008/4/22 Eben Eliason [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2008/4/22 Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2008/4/22 Martin Langhoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 10:18 PM, Ivan Krstić [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My solution is the simplest design I could create that allows both

Re: Synchronizing xs-0.3 and xo-??? --- backups

2008-04-23 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
2008/4/22 Eben Eliason [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2008/4/22 Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2008/4/22 Eben Eliason [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2008/4/22 Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2008/4/22 Martin Langhoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 10:18 PM, Ivan Krstić [EMAIL

Re: [sugar] [Community-news] where is Walter?

2008-04-23 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
2008/4/23 Martin Edmund Sevior [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I've stayed away from this discussion until now. But for my own part, if the OLPC becomes just another laptop running standard educational software of the kind that inhabits my daughters primary school, I'm no longer interested in the project.

Re: Synchronizing xs-0.3 and xo-??? --- backups

2008-04-23 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
2008/4/23 Martin Langhoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2008/4/23 Eben Eliason [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2008/4/22 Martin Langhoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 10:18 PM, Ivan Krstić [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My solution is the simplest design I could create that allows both

Re: [Community-news] on Sugar

2008-04-23 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Thanks for sharing your ideas about Sugar with us. Some comments follow below. On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 6:06 PM, Nicholas Negroponte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For this reason, Sugar needs a wider basis, to run on more Linux platforms and to run under Windows. We have been engaged in discussions

Re: Synchronizing xs-0.3 and xo-??? --- backups

2008-04-23 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 12:18 PM, Ivan Krstić [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 22, 2008, at 12:46 AM, Martin Langhoff wrote: Wad's too simple, I am hoping to use a slightly simplified version of Ivan's. For the restore part, I think I will drastically simplify things from Ivan's approach.

Re: [Community-news] on splitting Sugar

2008-04-23 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 10:43 PM, John Gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That said, Sugar needs to be disentangled. I keep using the omelet analogy, claiming it needs to be a fried egg, with distinct yoke and white, rather than having the UI, collaborative tools, power management

Re: [sugar] Cerebro released

2008-04-24 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 9:41 AM, Polychronis Ypodimatopoulos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (sorry for cross-postings) The first release of Cerebro is out! Cerebro basically offers scalable presence information and a simple collaboration API. Features currently include: - presence

Re: jumpy cursor problem and sugar issue

2008-04-28 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Sun, Apr 27, 2008 at 4:50 PM, Bryan Berry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thanks Carol, this instruction for disabling the corner sensitivity is extremely useful! I may use it in the custom build I roll out, some 3-4 months from now. We plan to work on this soon. The plan is to have a delay

Re: [sugar] Sugar\Windows won't ship

2008-04-28 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 4:25 PM, Jim Gettys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2008-04-28 at 10:06 -0400, Walter Bender wrote: I must have missed the post you refer to. It has never been the position of the core Sugar team--that I am aware of--to preclude the running of standard Linux

Re: 15 computer science collegians looking for a project

2008-04-29 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
I've been told that machines will be sent to the people that provide a convincing description of what they want to work on. http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Developer_program#How_to_apply_for_an_XO Thanks, Tomeu On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 1:04 PM, Walter Bender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was perhaps

Re: journal suggestion

2008-04-29 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 6:16 PM, Jacob Haddon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, First, forgive the suggestion if it is thought up, or implemented or just plain a bad idea. I am still running 652 so i can be of help to other G1G1 users. One thing that strikes me is multiple journal

Re: Journal Suggestion

2008-04-29 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi, On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 9:26 PM, James Simmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I, too have suggestions for the Journal: 1). The Journal should show, as a percentage perhaps, how much disk space is free in the Journal, or in whatever removeable media (SD card, Thumb drive) the user is

Re: Datastore and Core Data

2008-04-30 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 7:03 AM, Benjamin M. Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I suggest that people interested in datastore design should become familiar with Apple's Core Data (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Core_Data). Core Data is a strongly typed high-level data persistence framework

Re: Signed build for Italy

2008-05-06 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 10:25 AM, Bernie Innocenti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] In my mind, if we play this card well, I'm confident Florence could set an example of how a deployment could truly act as a contributing member of a wider olpc community rather than just a customer. Awesome,

Re: very simple datastore reimplementation

2008-05-07 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 10:56 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 12:42 PM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ ls ~/.sugar/default/datastore2/01/012beac5-9d4e-477e-848d-d7ef6a731fca/extra_metadata/ preview

Re: very simple datastore reimplementation

2008-05-07 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 10:59 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 12:42 PM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Monitor one dir where legacy apps will be allowed to write files to, and move new files to the datastore along with some default metadata

Re: very simple datastore reimplementation

2008-05-07 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 11:33 AM, Jim Gettys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please remember of the need for file names in the on disk structure being human readable. The need for interoperability (not just with Sugar) is key. This wasn't quite clear in your discussion. I was thinking about this

Re: very simple datastore reimplementation

2008-05-08 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On 5/7/08, Jim Gettys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2008-05-07 at 15:41 +, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 11:33 AM, Jim Gettys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please remember of the need for file names in the on disk structure being human readable. The need

Re: very simple datastore reimplementation

2008-05-08 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 11:20 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 12:58 PM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, the title is currently stored in the metadata file next to the actual file, so perhaps some ls-ds tool may be easily coded to present

Re: very simple datastore reimplementation

2008-05-09 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On 5/8/08, Jim Gettys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2008-05-08 at 20:22 +0200, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 4:22 PM, Jim Gettys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2008-05-08 at 16:06 +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On 5/8/08, Jim Gettys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote

Re: very simple datastore reimplementation

2008-05-09 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On 5/8/08, Paul Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i'm afraid i need to ask one of those i feel like i should know the answer questions: what's the relationship between olpcfs, as described in the design (and prototype?) scott sent around last week, and the simplified datastore prototyped by tomeu

Re: very simple datastore reimplementation

2008-05-09 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On 5/8/08, Jim Gettys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2008-05-08 at 16:06 +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On 5/8/08, Jim Gettys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2008-05-08 at 13:09 +, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: I'm having trouble understanding what you are requesting and what could

olpcfs next steps (was very simple datastore reimplementation)

2008-05-09 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On 5/8/08, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 3:11 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 8:43 PM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Again, in the olpcfs design we provide a vfat-like metadata structure (mounted

Re: [Its.an.education.project] An OLPC Development Model

2008-05-09 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On 5/9/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 7 May 2008, Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote: On Tue, 6 May 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ubuntu takes packages maintaned externally and picks what version of each of those packages to put in the main distro. the versions of these

Re: very simple datastore reimplementation

2008-05-09 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 2:15 PM, Jim Gettys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FUSE is great, but... It means interoperability must be an explicit planned-in-advance action: if a datastore is already on a removable device in your pocket, and you need to access something on a foreign system, you are

Re: very simple datastore reimplementation

2008-05-09 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 3:00 PM, Eben Eliason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess the case that worries me here, though, is backup. I'm not sure it's prudent to decompress and recompress with each backup and restore... Can you explain what worries you regarding backups? Thanks, Tomeu

Re: very simple datastore reimplementation

2008-05-09 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 4:19 PM, Bert Freudenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 09.05.2008, at 18:11, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 2:15 PM, Jim Gettys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FUSE is great, but... It means interoperability must be an explicit planned-in-advance action

Re: [Its.an.education.project] An OLPC Development Model

2008-05-10 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi David, unfortunately I don't have time right now to enter again in this debate, but I wanted to do one comment: On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 6:31 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: many people have pointed out the limitations of the journal approach, and problems with not naming activites and files.

Re: Acoustic Measure Problem

2008-05-12 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 5:47 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is a much larger point here, though. I would love to get more (any!) feedback from teachers about my code, so I know what's important in the field. Until you mentioned this page, I had no idea that it

Re: very simple datastore reimplementation

2008-05-12 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 7:34 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 6:11 PM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 2:15 PM, Jim Gettys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FUSE is great, but... It means interoperability must be an explicit

Re: Arcade game

2008-05-13 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi Evgeny, 2008/5/12 Jeck Landin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello, All. I would llike to develop 2D arcade/shooter multiplayer game. Planned to create multiple game modes, such as well-known Deathmatch, Capture the flag, Domination, etc. But without violence and in child-oriented setting. For

Sugar in LinuxTag 2008

2008-05-13 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi all, some (most) members of the Sugar team is discussing having a meeting at LinuxTag in Berlin from 29th May - 1st June. For now, looks like Simon Schampijer, Jim Gettys, Marco, Bert, Bernie, Holger Levsen (from OLPC Deutschland) and me will be there. Holger will give a couple of talks about

Re: very simple datastore reimplementation

2008-05-13 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi Martin, I would love to see such a simple implementation if possible. Nothing gives more robustness to a component than dropping it. Some questions follow below. On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 8:56 AM, Martin Langhoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 2:15 AM, Jim Gettys [EMAIL

Re: Is there a way to start sugar from the command line

2008-05-16 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
2008/5/16 Steve Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I want to start sugar from a command line without invoking special keys - is there any way to do so??? Can you please explain better what you try to do and in which environment? Thanks, Tomeu ___ Devel

Re: Priorities for Develop?

2008-05-16 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
2008/5/16 Jameson Chema Quinn [EMAIL PROTECTED]: * No need for DoppelJournal The two necessary patches have existed for months now, Tomeu had promised to review them, but that is apparently going slowly. Some of the above require changes to Sugar or Journal. Take that as your responsibility

Re: squeak image sometimes takes very long to be responsive after XO suspend

2008-05-16 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 1:50 PM, Ties Stuij [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Basically when coming out of suspend, the Squeak process takes up lots of cpu power and can be unresponsive for about a minute on build 703 (other builds not yet tested). What about: - launch etoys - check its pid - attach

Re: XP on OLPC - a contrarian view -- followup

2008-05-17 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi, I remember to have heard some rumor about Microsoft considering to use the internal NAND as swapping, thus killing any OS that may be installed there. This would mean that by dual-boot we are talking about having two SD cards each with a different OS? Regards, Tomeu On Sat, May 17, 2008

Re: Frame Decision (was [sugar] OLPC priorities for Sugar in the August release)

2008-05-17 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 8:22 AM, Neil Graham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 17 May 2008 5:26:06 pm John R.Hogerhuis wrote: One possible idea: rather than popping up the frame when near the edge, pop up a translucent overlay in key places that looks just like the keyboard frame key. If

Re: [sugar] Release management for upcoming bug fix releases and August release

2008-05-17 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi, On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 1:41 AM, Kim Quirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A high level view of this process: 1) Prioritize feature and bug fix requests from deployments, developers, support, our sales/marketing group 2) Triage bugs to determine which bugs are critical to fix to meet the

pyc files in activity startup time (was Re: [sugar] OLPC priorities for Sugar in the August release)

2008-05-18 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 4:37 PM, Jameson Chema Quinn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One low-hanging fruit for faster activity start is having activity install compile .pyc files, with (tiny) extra points if the .pyc gets hints to not use jffs2 compression. Hi Chema, do you know how much this could

Re: Sample large datastore

2008-05-19 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 7:01 AM, Martin Langhoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Working on ds-backup, I am concerned about performance of extracting all of the datastore metadata. Both Tomeu and Ivan have warned me about performance and memory impact. I want to repro the problem asap. If a full

Re: Sample large datastore

2008-05-19 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 9:55 AM, Martin Langhoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: n Mon, May 19, 2008 at 7:20 PM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you think this would be enough? That'll be *perfect* for this :-) Ok, then something like this should do the job: --- import sys import os

Re: Sample large datastore

2008-05-19 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 10:30 AM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: results, count = data_store.find({}, ['uid']) You may want to limit the amount of results returned by results, count = data_store.find({'limit': 20}, ['uid']) as trying to get too much info from the DS in one go can

Re: Could someone please fix the Joyride repo?

2008-05-19 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
: olpc-joyride. Please verify its path and try again - Bert - On 19.05.2008, at 11:29, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: I've done some new rpms, but the joyride builds are not being built, looks like :/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http

Re: [sugar] OLPC priorities for Sugar in the August release

2008-05-19 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 1:46 PM, Mikus Grinbergs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * More responsive UI - faster launch of activities Is the solution currently in joyride satisfactory for the August release? I use a recent Joyride on my G1G1. My average time to launch Browse (from the time I click

Re: [sugar] Sugar in LinuxTag 2008

2008-05-19 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 6:22 PM, Holger Levsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 13 May 2008 11:57, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: Do you have a sugar workshop / meeting planned at a specific date as well? Or do you plan to just meet for the whole 4 days? ;) We'll also get 2m^2 space at the Debian

Re: Sample large datastore

2008-05-20 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 3:11 AM, Martin Langhoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 9:26 PM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 10:30 AM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: results, count = data_store.find({}, ['uid']) You may want to limit

Re: Datastore backup - request for help

2008-05-20 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 9:47 AM, Martin Langhoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 5:43 PM, Martin Langhoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now that I have ds_backup that does backup something (thanks Tomeu for the script to grow the ds), I am looking at doing it correctly. Couple

Re: Marshalling/unmarshalling costs

2008-05-20 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 10:26 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 4:12 AM, Jim Gettys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: First step: data to see if there is a problem. If no problem; stop. If problem; fix... ;-). DBUS, btw, does not have to be inefficient; the

Re: Marshalling/unmarshalling costs

2008-05-20 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 10:42 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://dev.laptop.org/~tomeu/datastore*.kgrind and https://dev.laptop.org/attachment/ticket/3979/datastore5.kgrind Hard to say what we profiled exactly now though :) Right, I would prefer if new profiles were

Re: [sugar] Release management for upcoming bug fix releases and August release

2008-05-20 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 1:41 AM, Kim Quirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We have started planning for the next SW releases. The goal is a bug fix release in a few weeks (8.1.1), and then the major August release (8.2.0). Hi, what about updating to the latest stable abiword release for 8.1.1?

Re: Could someone please fix the Joyride repo?

2008-05-21 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi, could someone comment on the state of joyride builds? Thanks, Tomeu On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 2:34 PM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, haven't found any commit in the pilgrim repos about the change of the system activity dir (currently only the journal

[PATCH] Maintain a metadata copy outside the index (was Re: Datastore backup - request for help)

2008-05-21 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi, On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 1:37 PM, Martin Langhoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any idea if someone can lend a hand with the DS issues I mentioned in my opening post? To recap: - Add a dump all metadata to a file mechanism in datastore/xapianindex.py that is fast. It could be one file per

Re: [PATCH] Maintain a metadata copy outside the index (was Re: Datastore backup - request for help)

2008-05-22 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 5:48 AM, Benjamin M. Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jameson Chema Quinn wrote: | - at startup, if the file datastore_path/.metadata.exported doesn't | exist, check how many objects need to get their metadata exported |

Re: [PATCH] Maintain a metadata copy outside the index (was Re: Datastore backup - request for help)

2008-05-22 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 1:13 AM, Martin Langhoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 6:14 AM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the patch attached maintains a copy of the metadata of each object outside the xapian index. How it works: Fantastic. Except that... erm... arhm

Re: [PATCH] Maintain a metadata copy outside the index (was Re: Datastore backup - request for help)

2008-05-22 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 5:45 AM, Jameson Chema Quinn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yay, I am happy about this patch (when there is a patch :) - at every create and update, a json file is created next to the object's file, I definitely think it should be in the same directory as the object file,

Re: [PATCH] Maintain a metadata copy outside the index (was Re: Datastore backup - request for help)

2008-05-23 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 6:27 AM, Martin Langhoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 3:25 PM, Martin Langhoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll diagnose a bit more and post back. I'm baffled. I initially suspected PEBKAC but it keeps happening. With the patch the DS gets renamed,

Re: [PATCH] Maintain a metadata copy outside the index (was Re: Datastore backup - request for help)

2008-05-23 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 10:19 AM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 6:27 AM, Martin Langhoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 3:25 PM, Martin Langhoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll diagnose a bit more and post back. I'm baffled. I initially

F9 rebase (was Re: Release process)

2008-05-23 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 6:45 AM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A broken build is not a bad thing, as long as there is still a stable version for people to use. Linus' philosophy of development is valid here: the way to get bugs fixed is to get the code distributed. In my

Re: F9 rebase (was Re: Release process)

2008-05-23 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
. We should give dgilmore some help... Marco On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 11:35 AM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 6:45 AM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A broken build is not a bad thing, as long as there is still a stable version for people to use

Re: [PATCH] Maintain a metadata copy outside the index (was Re: Datastore backup - request for help)

2008-05-24 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 2:56 AM, Martin Langhoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 8:19 PM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ouch, sorry, I should have been more explicit in that this patch introduces a dependency on cjson. I'm going to send next another patch that falls

Re: [sugar] Release process

2008-05-24 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 9:17 PM, Kim Quirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One of the jobs of the release manager should be to help identify things that are ready to move from a development branch into the testing branch by making sure the process steps along the way are completed, etc. Whose job

Re: Hippocanvas error :(

2008-05-25 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 11:27 PM, Waqas Toor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 2:09 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 11:00 PM, Waqas Toor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 1:52 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Hippocanvas error :(

2008-05-25 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 11:07 AM, Waqas Toor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tomeu, Talking with Joel, looks like hippo-canvas only builds the python bindings if the prerequisites are already installed. If not, silently omits them. I added python-cairo-dev to the ubuntu dependencies, but perhaps

Re: Software Status Meeting Tomorrow @ 1400 EDT, 1800 UTC in #olpc-meeting on freenode

2008-05-28 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 6:18 AM, Michael Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let's talk tomorrow about #7014, build 706 (which everyone ought to test; olpc-update -f update.1-706), and what we should take away from the fact that Blake and Ricardo were the only people who contributed

journal object transfer for 8.2

2008-05-31 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi Kim and Michael, have heard occasional requests to implement the sending and sharing of journal entries. Eben has specified how object transfer would work in the shell: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Specifications/Object_Transfers And Benjamin Schwartz has implemented an activity that tries to

Re: Need help installing an activity

2008-06-02 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
2008/6/2 shivaprasad javali [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sorry didnt observe it properly. It is a D-BUS timeout. I am runing the command from the terminal activity on an actual XO. Which version of the software are you using? Some old versions would give you that error if the bundle was malformed. As

sugar on olpc3-16

2008-06-03 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi, for those people who need to work on something closer than f7 to what will ship in august (performance, xulrunner, X, etc), Blaketh gave this tip on #sugar: Blaketh unmadindu, you can also copy the olpc-blah from /etc/pam.d/ on a working f7 laptop to the f9 laptop, then olpc-dm will work.

Re: Need help creating .xo file

2008-06-04 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
2008/6/4 shivaprasad javali [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Can you figure out where I am going wrong?? What's your problem? The bundle seems to install correctly as its icon appears in the shell. Is the problem that the activity doesn't start? Logs will help in any case, as Bert said. Regards, Tomeu

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