Re: [IAEP] Turtles All The Way Down

2011-05-20 Thread Alan Kay
This is nice! Smalltalk actually got started by thinking about a way to make a child's Logo-like language with objects and pattern matching that could express its own operating system and environment. It is very tricky to retain/maintain readability (so the first Smalltalk was also an

Re: [IAEP] Turtles All The Way Out

2011-05-20 Thread Alan Kay
languages are. I invented Object-Oriented Programming, and C++ is _not_ what I had in mind.--Alan Kay As in the model-view-controller paradigm, the kids need to learn that the view is not the model, but the model is a simply structured thing that lives behind the view. If you don't teach the abstract

P.S. Re: [IAEP] etoys now available in Debian's non-free repository

2008-06-28 Thread Alan Kay
P.S. I thought of a different way to possibly resolve this. It occurs to me that this discussion and differences of opinion could really be about how executables are made. One of the main issues cited has to do with security, and a notion that being able to see the sources will help. The

Re: [IAEP] etoys now available in Debian's non-free repository

2008-06-27 Thread Alan Kay
://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel -- Edward Cherlin End Poverty at a Profit by teaching children business http://www.EarthTreasury.org/ The best way to predict the future is to invent it.--Alan Kay ___ Its.an.education.project mailing list [EMAIL

Re: [IAEP] etoys now available in Debian's non-free repository

2008-06-23 Thread Alan Kay
Exactly! Jim sees the real problem. We are dealing with stories here, not with any kind of reality. Cheers, Alan - Original Message From: Jim Gettys [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jecel Assumpcao Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: its. an. education. project [EMAIL PROTECTED]; OLPC Devel

Re: [sugar] Spreadsheets/ Slideshows

2007-06-05 Thread Alan Kay
You might want to check out what Etoys actually does and is. (Hint: it covers your desiderata beIow pretty well.) I suggest perusing the document that I made up for the OLPC countries meeting a few weeks ago. Nia Lewis will probably have a copy. Cheers, Alan At 07:50 AM 6/2/2007, Eben

Doc now posted (was Re: [sugar] Spreadsheets/ Slideshows)

2007-06-05 Thread Alan Kay
being our supported method for importing .ppt -- Rebecca, have you tried this? Were you asking for something more specific? SJ ps - That might also be a good opportunity to think about what a generic bundle looks like. On 6/2/07, Alan Kay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You might want to check out what