Re: [Server-devel] [Sugar-devel] scalability in the neighborhood view

2010-03-24 Thread Eben Eliason
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 8:32 AM, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 3:28 AM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@tomeuvizoso.net wrote: Yep - no prob for me. The GUI side probably needs a bit of extra thinking so that it avoids being specific to the backend works (moodle

Re: [Server-devel] [Sugar-devel] scalability in the neighborhood view

2010-03-21 Thread Eben Eliason
On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 2:08 PM, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 1:02 PM, Caroline Meeks solutiongr...@gmail.com wrote: would be a nice feature to eventually have to let the teacher narrow down the neighborhood based on a specific Moodle group, for a

Re: Sharing files among several XO

2009-10-30 Thread Eben Eliason
On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 9:11 AM, Bert Freudenberg b...@freudenbergs.de wrote: On 29.10.2009, at 16:23, Hilaire Fernandes wrote: 2009/10/29 Bert Freudenberg b...@freudenbergs.de: On 29.10.2009, at 02:47, Hilaire Fernandes wrote: Under Etoys, If I keep down the mouse button and choose Save

Re: Sharing files among several XO

2009-10-28 Thread Eben Eliason
On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 7:40 AM, Hilaire Fernandes hilaire.fernan...@edu.ge.ch wrote: 2009/10/28 Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org: Sugar supports direct file transfers between machines, but only from 0.84. Hilaire said he uses the last stable OLPC release, so he is using 0.82. And so far, I

Re: [Sugar-devel] Journal oddity: metadata with no file?

2009-03-30 Thread Eben Eliason
2009/3/30 Sascha Silbe sascha-ml-ui-sugar-de...@silbe.org: On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 05:11:46PM +0200, Martin Langhoff wrote: Only if something useful is stored. I was wrong to point a finger to Browse - the culprit is Terminal. Try the latest version of Terminal. It does store both current

Re: A furthere comment on Paint

2009-03-02 Thread Eben Eliason
Hmm, there is now a standard (and simple!) Sugar color chooser that all activities should be using if they don't have specific reason to do otherwise. (Write now uses it, I know.) It would be good to use it in Paint as well. - Eben On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 11:26 AM, Aaron Konstam

Re: rotate button sucks on the XO

2009-03-01 Thread Eben Eliason
This whole argument, I feel, is fruitless. That's just my opinion, of course. The touchpad isn't readily accessible in handheld mode, and was never made to be. I'll continue to suggest that the cursor simply be automatically hidden in handheld mode, and that a simple means for taking full

Re: rotate button sucks on the XO

2009-03-01 Thread Eben Eliason
On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 5:39 PM, da...@lang.hm wrote: On Sun, 1 Mar 2009, Eben Eliason wrote: This whole argument, I feel, is fruitless.  That's just my opinion, of course. The touchpad isn't readily accessible in handheld mode, and was never made to be.  I'll continue to suggest

Re: rotate button sucks on the XO

2009-03-01 Thread Eben Eliason
On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 6:43 PM, da...@lang.hm wrote: On Sun, 1 Mar 2009, Eben Eliason wrote: On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 5:39 PM,  da...@lang.hm wrote: On Sun, 1 Mar 2009, Eben Eliason wrote: This whole argument, I feel, is fruitless.  That's just my opinion, of course. The touchpad isn't

Re: rotate button sucks on the XO

2009-03-01 Thread Eben Eliason
On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 6:58 PM, da...@lang.hm wrote: On Sun, 1 Mar 2009, Eben Eliason wrote: On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 5:53 PM, NoiseEHC noise...@freemail.hu wrote: Eben Eliason wrote: This whole argument, I feel, is fruitless.  That's just my opinion, of course. The touchpad isn't readily

Re: Unshare an Activity

2009-02-17 Thread Eben Eliason
2009/2/17 Jorge Saldivar jorgesaldi...@gmail.com: Thanks all for the answers. All ideas are good but for blind childrens are not so convenient. For that kind of people you have to make your life easier, that's why I automated all the procedures to share and join the activity. When you enter

Re: Is it possible to disable sharing for an Activity?

2009-02-02 Thread Eben Eliason
I think that the addition of a new property in the activity.info file would be logical here. Make it an integer indicating the maximum number of supported participants. Unshared activities would report '1', activities like video chat (with technical limitations) or chess (with obvious player

Re: [Sugar-devel] Is it possible to disable sharing for an Activity?

2009-02-02 Thread Eben Eliason
On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 7:33 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartz bmsch...@fas.harvard.edu wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Eben Eliason wrote: I think that the addition of a new property in the activity.info file would be logical here. Make it an integer indicating the maximum

Re: [Sugar-devel] Journal integration for Scratch

2009-01-13 Thread Eben Eliason
On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 3:54 AM, Bert Freudenberg b...@freudenbergs.de wrote: On 13.01.2009, at 06:55, Philipp Kocher wrote: Thanks Tomeu to lead me to the /home/olpc/.local directory. However, the mimetypes.xml is not necessary to get the icon in the journal. I just had to copy the scratch

Re: [Sugar-devel] Journal integration for Scratch

2009-01-13 Thread Eben Eliason
On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 12:49 PM, Bert Freudenberg b...@freudenbergs.de wrote: On 13.01.2009, at 17:22, Eben Eliason wrote: /usr/share/icons/sugar/scalable/mimetypes/application-x-squake- project.svg. Interesting ... thanks for the archaeology :) Eben: see, I did remember correctly

Re: [Sugar-devel] Journal integration for Scratch

2009-01-12 Thread Eben Eliason
This is something I've briefly discussed with Marco in the past. It seems a natural extension of the idea of objects as first class citizens of Sugar to allow those objects to have custom icons and identities. Right now, we have no such support. The most natural way (at least for me, as a Mac

Re: [Sugar-devel] Journal integration for Scratch

2009-01-12 Thread Eben Eliason
On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 12:11 PM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 18:07, Bert Freudenberg b...@freudenbergs.de wrote: On 12.01.2009, at 17:55, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 17:38, Bert Freudenberg b...@freudenbergs.de wrote: On 12.01.2009, at

Re: [Sugar-devel] Journal integration for Scratch

2009-01-12 Thread Eben Eliason
On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 2:23 PM, Bert Freudenberg b...@freudenbergs.de wrote: On 12.01.2009, at 19:30, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: And I just checked and it does work with Etoys projects. When downloading one it indeed gets an etoys icon (although at a smaller size - why is that?) No idea, though I

Re: Fedora Desktop on XO

2009-01-09 Thread Eben Eliason
On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 3:24 AM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 09:21, C. Scott Ananian csc...@laptop.org wrote: On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 11:00 AM, John Gilmore g...@toad.com wrote: I'm very interested on this, as it would give us also for free a FUSE interface.

Re: automatic reminder of 'software update' when installing a new build

2009-01-06 Thread Eben Eliason
On Thu, Dec 25, 2008 at 1:42 AM, Mikus Grinbergs mi...@bga.com wrote: Visited a friend, and helped him install a new build in his XO. The first time the new build completed booting, he was presented with an action bar (to request software update) near the top of Home View. It so happened

Re: automatic reminder of 'software update' when installing a new build

2009-01-06 Thread Eben Eliason
), then there's just my solid wifi circle in my frame. That sounds like a bug (the perpetual blinking). Manual intervention must be preventing some signal from getting through; we should definitely fix that so the states of both devices are consistent. File a ticket? :) Thanks. - Eben genesee Eben

Re: Journal integration for Scratch

2008-12-18 Thread Eben Eliason
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 9:57 AM, John Maloney jmalo...@media.mit.edu wrote: Hi, Phillip. Re: Do you plan a journal integration for scratch? Probably not in the near future. There has been talk about making an API for the Journal that looks more like a file system to application programs.

Re: Journal integration for Scratch

2008-12-18 Thread Eben Eliason
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 12:05 PM, Bert Freudenberg b...@freudenbergs.de wrote: On 18.12.2008, at 17:11, Eben Eliason wrote: In fact, the Journal itself supports thumbnails and a description field, so a similar experience could be offered there, in a place that's familiar to those using Sugar

Re: Journal integration for Scratch

2008-12-18 Thread Eben Eliason
Thanks John! My previous comments weren't meant as an attack against you or Scratch, of course. We know as well as anyone about resource constraints! I just want to keep everyone honest, and make sure that the broader goals for Sugar and the Journal don't get lost while we struggle to figure

Re: 2588 - Journal unusable

2008-12-11 Thread Eben Eliason
On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 3:57 PM, Mikus Grinbergs mi...@bga.com wrote: I am just making a new snapshot release of sugar since there were some deps of sugar-toolkit on the sugar package. What is helpful when writing those emails is always to have a quick look at the logs. For the impatient

Re: [Sugar-devel] Resuming by default (was: One instance activity)

2008-12-10 Thread Eben Eliason
On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 6:09 AM, Bert Freudenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 09.12.2008, at 20:39, Bert Freudenberg wrote: On 09.12.2008, at 18:55, Eben Eliason wrote: Pablo, for what reasons do you desire to prevent multiple instances from running? Hope there's a better reason than it's

Re: Cleaning up Trac for 8.2.1

2008-12-08 Thread Eben Eliason
On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 12:33 PM, Chris Ball [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Since I think our philosophy should be that any 8.2.x release will only contain bug fixes that are specifically selected and identified as critical for that bugfix release, I would like to suggest that all

Re: [Sugar-devel] Removing Register button from sugar on non-XO machine

2008-12-06 Thread Eben Eliason
That depends. I suppose we might be able to support some services, like backup, in interesting ways in non-school situations. I think the more appropriate course of action is to pursue the idea of the collaboration server as a unique device in the neighborhood. In truth, the register option

Re: [Sugar-devel] File transfer in Telepathy

2008-12-05 Thread Eben Eliason
On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 9:43 AM, Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Guillaume, Thanks for reading it over and commenting. I dropped the sugar list and moved this to devel. If someone (Tomeu?) thinks it should be back on Sugar devel, forward as needed. See original threads here:

Re: Fedora 10 on XO

2008-12-05 Thread Eben Eliason
On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 11:16 AM, Erik Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Dec 04, 2008 at 06:36:53PM -0500, Greg Smith wrote: * Will it stop us from being able to hold two SugarOS builds on the NAND at the same time after olpc-update, as we do now? GS - Possibly depending on space

Re: xo activity idea

2008-12-03 Thread Eben Eliason
Hi Yifan, 2008/12/3 Yifan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi all, I had an idea for an activity, something like a write activity with a constantly updating spell checker that displayed spelling suggestions as you typed (similar to NJStar Word Processor for typing in Asian languages, except for English).

Re: XO deployment count?

2008-11-17 Thread Eben Eliason
The countries page of the new website has a nice embedded google map which reveals a high level view of the current stats (ordered + shipped). I believe that SJ added an extension to the OLPC wiki recently to allow map embedding, but I haven't had a chance to look at it yet.

Re: XO deployment count?

2008-11-17 Thread Eben Eliason
the initial population of the map via the wiki (Ghana, for instance). If these numbers are low, or deployments are missing, please let me know! What other sources have you found? - Eben On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 9:10 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 17 Nov 2008, Eben Eliason wrote: The countries

Re: How to get screenshot thumbnail?

2008-11-16 Thread Eben Eliason
On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 12:37 PM, Chris Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I used the Alt-1 shortcut to get a screenshot for reference which was duly saved in the Journal. When I went to the Journal and reviewed the entry, the thumbnail preview was blank. I tried to resume the screenshot and

Consolidating the Feature Roadmap

2008-10-29 Thread Eben Eliason
For those that aren't yet aware, a Feature Roadmap [1] has appeared in our wiki recently, its goal to lay out a long term strategy for prioritizing software development on the XO. It's tied closely to the Feature Request [2] page, which contains verbatim requests and requirements by country, to

Re: 9.1 proposal: Language learning on the XO.

2008-10-28 Thread Eben Eliason
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 7:46 PM, Chris Ball [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'm learning Spanish at the moment, and I wish the XO made it easier for me. I don't have any knowledge of what the right way to do either conventional or constructionist language learning on computers is; if anyone

Re: Cannot edit Trac tickets

2008-10-24 Thread Eben Eliason
I, too, am seeing this on 10.5.5 Leopard with both 3.1.2 Safari and 3.0.1 Firefox. - Eben On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 3:11 PM, Chris Ball [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Noah, Can't reproduce on 3.1.2/Leopard. Please make sure to clear your web cache if you have one, the JS file that does the

Re: Cannot edit Trac tickets

2008-10-24 Thread Eben Eliason
Attached. - Eben On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 3:36 PM, Noah Kantrowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can someone send me a copy of dev.laptop.org/condfields/new.js from a machine that is grumpy? --Noah -Original Message- From: Chris Ball [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 24,

Re: 9.1 Proposal: Power.

2008-10-23 Thread Eben Eliason
I could be talking nonsense, and perhaps this would consume more power than it saves, but if you were able to slowly dim the backlight over the course of a minute or so, instead of waiting a minute and then dropping it suddenly, we could prevent the sudden change which causes a break in

9.1 Proposal: Clarifying the zoom levels

2008-10-22 Thread Eben Eliason
We've never fully implemented the zoom levels, and since we're going to have to pay some attention to that area in order to provide scalability in the short term, we should ensure that their design offers long term scalability as well. For the purpose of this discussion, I'd like to restrict

Re: 9.1 Proposal: Printing support

2008-10-20 Thread Eben Eliason
Peter Krenesky (CC'd) from the Open Source Lab at Oregon State has discussed some printing basics with me, and may have already begun further research in this area. There is some info in the wiki on the subject: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Enabling_CUPS, http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Printing_Design,

Re: Tagged Journal Proposal

2008-10-15 Thread Eben Eliason
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 6:03 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: a few random observations that i had today, prompted by scott's talk/demo: - while people don't tend to name their jpegs (today), they do tend to group them into folders (e.g. vacation_pix). the equivalent of this in

Re: journal is hard (was Re: notes from the field - Mongolia)

2008-10-10 Thread Eben Eliason
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 8:45 AM, Garrett Goebel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Elana Langer wrote from Mongolia: basically when teachers and students try to find their work (write, record, etoys) in the journal it is hard for them to locate it - especially if it is more than a few days old. This is

Re: journal is hard (was Re: notes from the field - Mongolia)

2008-10-10 Thread Eben Eliason
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 1:05 PM, NoiseEHC [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We can do a little better than that, actually, by making it all one prompt. It can have a name field, already filled out with the best darn attempt at a name we can manage, a tag field (and perhaps even a list of popular tags

Re: journal tagging

2008-10-10 Thread Eben Eliason
Both! The most critical issue is to encourage naming of entries, since a name is the most natural way to find something again later (and all of the words in the name become, effectively, tags with which one can find the item later). However, we want to provide a much richer system with

Re: journal is hard + sugar and the digital age

2008-10-09 Thread Eben Eliason
On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 10:15 AM, Carlos Nazareno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Tomeu. Some personal feedback: 3) Basically - The journal is really hard for people/ kids to use over a longer period of time. Kids and teachers can't find things that they did unless it was done within the last 30

Re: [sugar] Give a Laptop, Change the World : G1G1 2008

2008-10-08 Thread Eben Eliason
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 7:58 AM, Walter Bender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I prefer the Sugar learning platform +1 from me as well. (I'm torn on platform vs. environment; the latter actually sounds a little friendlier, to me.) - Eben -walter On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 4:35 AM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL

Re: [sugar] Give a Laptop, Change the World : G1G1 2008

2008-10-08 Thread Eben Eliason
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 1:05 PM, John Gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I prefer the Sugar learning platform And my laundress prefers fabric revitalization consultant. Sugar isn't about learning. Sugar is a user interface. It draws I find your first statement wholly contestable. Moreover,

Re: [sugar] notes from the field - Mongolia

2008-10-07 Thread Eben Eliason
On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 6:17 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: mikus wrote: - First off, every Activity has a 'Name Field' in its top menu. When running any Activity, the user should enter there a short Title to identify the resulting Journal entry from all others. - Then, upon

Re: notes from the field - Mongolia

2008-10-07 Thread Eben Eliason
On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 8:27 PM, Hal Murray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here we come against initial expectations. The whole concept of Sugar is that the user doesn't need to explicitly save files. They are automatically kept in the Sugar datastore, and are accessed through the Journal

Re: notes on Journal feedback (was Re: Bundle activity)

2008-10-07 Thread Eben Eliason
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 10:33 AM, Carlo Falciola [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let's add Upload/Download from a website, too. Let's hash that point out a bit further, because I can see it in two ways. The primary discriminator is whether by a website you mean any website or a particular website. In

Re: notes on Journal feedback (was Re: Bundle activity)

2008-10-07 Thread Eben Eliason
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 12:06 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 7, 2008, at 7:20 AM, Gary Oberbrunner wrote: Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 3:47 PM, Erik Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 09:17:16AM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Thu,

Re: New release8.2 build 764

2008-10-01 Thread Eben Eliason
On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 12:34 PM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 12:31 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 28 Sep 2008, C. Scott Ananian wrote: Requesting dev keys should not be difficult! How can we fix that problem? one headache (at least from the

Re: 764 is imminent

2008-09-25 Thread Eben Eliason
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 9:26 PM, Gary C Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 25 Sep 2008, at 23:39, C. Scott Ananian wrote: #7969 Accidental searches lead to a blank Home screen sugar-0.82.9-1.olpc3 Hmmm, just installed 8.2-764. I don't think the expected behaviour is that the Home

Re: 764 is imminent

2008-09-25 Thread Eben Eliason
You raise very good points. Perhaps hiding it completely was the correct solutionthere was disagreement. (Although, hiding wouldn't fix the focus ring issue...) - Eben On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 10:05 PM, Gary C Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 26 Sep 2008, at 02:30, Eben Eliason wrote

Re: Project hosting request: xo-lambda

2008-09-24 Thread Eben Eliason
Agreed! I have been secretly wanting to play around with lisp myself, so I look forward to playing with this a lot. As a small nitpick, I'd recommend dropping 'XO' from the name. While I just discovered that I omitted this detail while discussing naming in the HIG, it doesn't really provide any

Re: [sugar] Tagged Journal Proposal

2008-09-23 Thread Eben Eliason
I'm paying attention to this thread, quietly. I like a lot of this. :) I'll let it continue without interfering, for now, but I wanted to point out that the new toolbar design (posted on the wiki) would make that more actions option much nicer. For that matter, as Eduardo mentions, they don't

Re: [sugar] Tagged Journal Proposal

2008-09-23 Thread Eben Eliason
On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 7:36 PM, Bobby Powers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 6:25 PM, Eben Eliason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm paying attention to this thread, quietly. I like a lot of this. :) I'll let it continue without interfering, for now, but I wanted to point out

Re: [sugar] frame gets in the way when alt-tabbing

2008-09-22 Thread Eben Eliason
On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 3:14 PM, Erik Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 12:59:52AM -0400, Mikus Grinbergs wrote: 760. Running (on my XO) a ported Linux application which puts up multiple screens. As far as I could tell. I was able to access all of those screens by

Re: 8.2-760 collaboration + power save interaction

2008-09-20 Thread Eben Eliason
On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 2:55 PM, Chris Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also: I noticed that if you hover over a Friend in the Group view to invite for sharing with the Chat Activity that the popup menu has Invite to with the Chat icon but not the word Chat. Given that some icons might be

Re: [Server-devel] [sugar] Restoring journal entries (was Re: Backup And Restore Feature Documentation)

2008-09-19 Thread Eben Eliason
On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 9:37 AM, Walter Bender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd be nice to architect this in a way such that someone without access to an XS could perhaps subscribe to an external service offered up on the Internet to achieve the same functionality. We had (long ago) a standing

Re: [sugar] Ideas for Journal: How epiphany browser manages bookmarks just with tags

2008-09-19 Thread Eben Eliason
On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 3:59 PM, Eduardo H. Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/9/19 C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 2:31 PM, Eduardo H. Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ideas for Journal: How epiphany browser manages bookmarks just with tags (and does it nicely, with

Re: build 8.2-760, Read activity and ebook mode - how to make them work together?

2008-09-18 Thread Eben Eliason
On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 6:58 PM, NoiseEHC [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another possible option, for general use, which we've discussed in the past is a palette dedicated to keyboard mappings, revealing a user configurable set of actions. This would make it possible to see all of the shortcuts

Re: mechanisms tied to mesh: under a tree collab

2008-09-17 Thread Eben Eliason
On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 5:05 AM, Bert Freudenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes we do. I think that's just bad UI design - as far as I know the school server is independent of the mesh, so it should not be labeled mesh. +1 I'll open a ticket on this now so it's not lost. Collaboration server

Re: Date And Time control panel renamed to Timezones ?

2008-09-12 Thread Eben Eliason
That's true; It's not implemented in full. Changing the name would also require changing the icon. I hope that we have more complete settings modules for the next release, but if not, we should consider a rename then. - Eben On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 5:09 PM, karl ramberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: #7685 NORM 9.1.0: Alternate home layouts; fixed ring scaling; better modularization of layouts

2008-09-11 Thread Eben Eliason
I want to initiate some discussion on a similar topic to the one you bring up here, regarding the extensibility of the layouts. What I'd like to see is layout modules which provide translation from a set of input coordinates to a set of output coordinates (eg, _calculate_position), which are then

Re: Bundle activity

2008-09-11 Thread Eben Eliason
back into the user's /home/, either compressed or uncompressed? Call it the File activity. Erik On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 12:49:03AM -0400, Matt Der wrote: Hello all, I am one of the students who will be working on the Bundle activity suggested by Eben Eliason. I understand that the activity

Re: Expected date for 8.2.0

2008-09-10 Thread Eben Eliason
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 3:38 AM, Chris Ball [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Robert, thanks for the notes. Regarding WPA support remember you have existing G1G1 users out in the wild using WPA plus a new G1G1 is scheduled for November time frame. It is also possible that a deployment or

Re: Expected date for 8.2.0

2008-09-10 Thread Eben Eliason
We removed that for two reasons. First, as an indicator it was actually really subtle; it didn't grab attention. Second, it effectively stripped the identity of the server itself, since each AP is identified by a pair of colors. Removing the stroke color made it unclear which AP was which. We

Re: [sugar] Question about clipboard service

2008-09-10 Thread Eben Eliason
On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 4:37 PM, Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Eben, I'm resurrecting an old thread here. BTW if you have any more specs or design proposals to share, now is a good time to consider them for 9.1-sugar .84 so send them out. The clipboard specification on the wiki is a

Re: Terminal Text Fragment Drop Support Patch

2008-09-08 Thread Eben Eliason
2008/9/8 Cortland Setlow [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, Terminal really should support dropping dev key commands, I think. Here's a patch to make it do so. Could we update the devkey page to explain frame-based cut and paste? The current devkey hassles should be resolved in 9.1, when we will add a

Re: AC not present?

2008-09-08 Thread Eben Eliason
I know I've said this before, but I really want to get some UI polish into this part of the system. Instead of the cryptic AC not present we should be displaying a fullscreen graphic picturing the power cord (in the style of the shutdown warnings) to make it blatantly obvious what's needed.

Re: #8240 NORM 9.1.0: Implement a dynamic tabbing stack, to allow ping-pong shortcut

2008-09-08 Thread Eben Eliason
On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 2:57 PM, Zarro Boogs per Child [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: #8240: Implement a dynamic tabbing stack, to allow ping-pong shortcut +--- Reporter: mikus | Owner: Eben Type:

Re: Blocks? and bug 8090

2008-08-27 Thread Eben Eliason
It's not really an issue of speed. The launcher in current joyrides has a half-dozen serious behavioral bugs. I worked with Marco to create a patch for this, which cleans up all but one tiny behavioral glitch, and which after 3+ days of testing by myself and a few others has yielded no side

Re: Blocks? and bug 8090

2008-08-27 Thread Eben Eliason
, Eben Eliason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's not really an issue of speed. The launcher in current joyrides has a half-dozen serious behavioral bugs. I worked with Marco to create a patch for this, which cleans up all but one tiny behavioral glitch, and which after 3+ days of testing by myself

Re: Blocks? and bug 8090

2008-08-27 Thread Eben Eliason
. - Eben On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 1:15 PM, Gary C Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Eben, On 27 Aug 2008, at 15:52, Eben Eliason wrote: It's not really an issue of speed. The launcher in current joyrides has a half-dozen serious behavioral bugs. I worked with Marco to create a patch

Re: Blocks? and bug 8090

2008-08-27 Thread Eben Eliason
believe the code can go in if it is ready. Please get that added ASAP so it makes the next build. Thanks, Greg S ** Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 10:54:41 -0400 From: Eben Eliason [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Blocks? and bug 8090 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: devel

Re: #8041 HIGH 9.1.0: Sugar lacks a Trash/Recycle bin system

2008-08-20 Thread Eben Eliason
This is getting a little out of hand, here. Let's break this down again, because I think we're all arguing for pretty much the same thing. On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 12:19 AM, Bastien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Eduardo Heleno [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But my point was that, at the moment, you can

Re: [sugar] Please help test our new 8.2.0 weekly beta, joyride-2263!

2008-08-19 Thread Eben Eliason
On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 5:42 AM, Eduardo Heleno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/8/9 Christoph Derndorfer [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 8:45 PM, Michael Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] This isn't really a bug but rather a general observation so I'm not quite sure where to

Re: Tribute To Randy Pausch

2008-08-15 Thread Eben Eliason
I had the opportunity to study under Randy during his last year at the Entertainment Technology Center, before Jesse (formerly of Disney Imagineering) took over. His Building Virtual Worlds course was the most time consuming yet most rewarding educational experience I've ever had. He was an

Re: Project Name: olpc-bundler has been set up

2008-08-14 Thread Eben Eliason
For clarification, is this a tool meant to be used by content providers on non-XO machines, or an activity for use in Sugar? I ask because, ever since we first designed the Journal, we've been in need of an activity (which should be called Bundle) which is specifically designed to manage a

Re: Project Name: olpc-bundler has been set up

2008-08-14 Thread Eben Eliason
On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 1:57 PM, Erik Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 01:34:58PM -0400, Eben Eliason wrote: For clarification, is this a tool meant to be used by content providers on non-XO machines, or an activity for use in Sugar? Content providers. I ask

Re: Project Name: olpc-bundler has been set up

2008-08-14 Thread Eben Eliason
On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 2:56 PM, Erik Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 02:06:14PM -0400, Eben Eliason wrote: On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 1:57 PM, Erik Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 01:34:58PM -0400, Eben Eliason wrote: For clarification

Re: Project Name: olpc-bundler has been set up

2008-08-14 Thread Eben Eliason
On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 4:22 PM, Erik Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 03:03:45PM -0400, Benjamin M. Schwartz wrote: Erik Garrison wrote: | Can you reasonably | expect to navigate more than 20 or 30 different entries without indexing | and search? Indexing and

Re: Datastore profiling

2008-08-13 Thread Eben Eliason
On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 11:09 AM, riccardo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2008-08-13 at 11:41 +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: ... It is updating the what combobox in the toolbar, see SearchToolbar.refresh_filters(). This of course could be optimized in the same way that the list view update

Re: Journal activity profiling

2008-08-13 Thread Eben Eliason
On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 12:02 PM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 5:20 PM, riccardo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2008-08-13 at 12:13 +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 12:10 PM, riccardo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! Testcase: Fill the

Re: XO keeps staring at its own belly button

2008-08-08 Thread Eben Eliason
2008/8/7 Ixo X oxI [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Some more 2 1/2 cents. Frequently, when I see such un-responsiveness.. likely I have clicked on an activity icon twice by habit, they are both competing to start up. Are you reproducing this on joyride builds? I'm pretty sure that there has been

Re: New joyride build 2258

2008-08-06 Thread Eben Eliason
On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 7:10 AM, Build Announcer v2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Changes for sugar 0.81.8-2.20080806git0fc57309f3.olpc3 from 0.81.8-1.fc9 --- + 7495 open cp software-updater on first boot after an update I don't want this! I keep shouting about it and no one seems to be

Re: [sugar] Question about clipboard service

2008-08-06 Thread Eben Eliason
On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 12:12 PM, Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Eben, Thanks for the explanation. You may want to update the Spec with this added detail. One follow question. On this: If 5 kids are collaborating on a science report, they might all go home and do

Re: X2o Wiki search problem

2008-08-06 Thread Eben Eliason
On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 1:16 PM, James Simmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a bit of experience setting up MediaWiki for my company. By default search ignores words that are shorter than four letters. This eliminates words like the, of, etc. It is possible to change this but it is a fair

Re: [sugar] Question about clipboard service

2008-08-06 Thread Eben Eliason
On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 4:22 PM, Bastien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Eben Eliason [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Can you walk me through the steps needed for that? e.g. one kid starts an activity then shares it, each other kid opens the activity and joins (or opens their own work?), then ???. How do

Re: [sugar] Question about clipboard service

2008-08-05 Thread Eben Eliason
elements (NAND, USB, SD card), computers (XO - XO, XO - PC), schools (XO - XS - XS) and beyond. Clipboard may be a key part of it. Thanks, Greg S Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 14:59:56 -0400 From: Eben Eliason [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [sugar] Question about clipboard service To: Tomeu Vizoso

Re: [sugar] Question about clipboard service

2008-08-05 Thread Eben Eliason
On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 1:33 PM, Gary C Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5 Aug 2008, at 16:50, Eben Eliason wrote: On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 3:44 AM, Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 7 - Is cut supported? How do you remove things from the clipboard? How many items can it hold? Cut

Re: [sugar] How do I connect to a Jabber server ?

2008-08-05 Thread Eben Eliason
On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 1:30 PM, Mikus Grinbergs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Morgan wrote: Connecting to an AP disables the mesh, so I don't see the value of what you want. Turning off the mesh while you are connected to a mesh channel would simply (in the proposal) turn the wireless radio off

Re: The tedium of erasing journal entries

2008-08-04 Thread Eben Eliason
A conglomeration of responses follow... Also, as a prologue, I will refer occasionally to the designs on the wiki [1], and in particular the 6th slide [2] with respect to the deletion issue. It's also prudent to note the initial description of the Journal [3] which remains, in nearly all

Re: [sugar] Question about clipboard service

2008-08-04 Thread Eben Eliason
want to do but the current spec doesn't allow to? Thanks, Tomeu On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 5:01 PM, Eben Eliason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can't tell from your wording if you are implying that we will or will not be creating some custom wrappers for the clipboard service. I think we

Re: [sugar] Faster - how do I bypass look, ma - no hands ??

2008-08-04 Thread Eben Eliason
On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 2:05 PM, Mikus Grinbergs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tried latest Faster -- is the small 'rodent' supposed to be cute ? ?? Encountered at least two hurdles. Would someone please answer for me: 1) The control panel let me get into xfce. But HOW is one supposed to

Re: sugar start-up profiling

2008-08-01 Thread Eben Eliason
Spread layout should: * Position icons so as to minimize overlap * Support a suggested location for the position of a given icon * Support both addition and removal of nodes * Support in-place scaling of nodes, both growing and shrinking * Have a low big-O (O(n)? O(nlogn)? But, as we've seen, it

Re: sugar start-up profiling

2008-08-01 Thread Eben Eliason
On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 10:27 AM, Benjamin M. Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Eben Eliason wrote: | Spread layout should: ... | * Have a low big-O (O(n)? O(nlogn)? But, as we've seen, it also needs a | fairly low constant) Surely

Re: sugar start-up profiling

2008-08-01 Thread Eben Eliason
On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 10:29 AM, Erik Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Aug 01, 2008 at 10:19:50AM -0400, Eben Eliason wrote: Another potentially interesting solution is a pseudo-spring algorithm, by which we detect some numbers of neighbors (O(n)) and then we push those neighbors

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