RE: 8.2-767 Mesh vs. AP on same channel wierdness
Hi Gary, I will try to reproduce it here at 1cc - looks interesting. Regards, Joe -- Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 19:59:00 + From: Gary C Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: 8.2-767 Mesh vs. AP on same channel wierdness To: OLPC Devel devel@lists.laptop.org Cc: sugar List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Hi, Just wanted to ping the dev list regarding the current expected 8.2-767 behaviour for Mesh vs. AP use. I now have 3 XOs here for testing all running 8.2-767, usually trying** to keep all 3 attached to an AP I have here for internet access. All 3 also have a blank jabber server set so that I can test collaboration locally (via either Mesh or AP without a schoolserver). The AP*** is on channel 1, and I've noticed that if two XOs are set to Mesh channel 1, they still 'see' the other one XO on the AP, and the one XO on the AP still see the two XOs on Mesh channel 1: - all 3 XO buddies are visible in neighbourhood - sharing an activity (Chat) shows up in all 3 neighbourhoods - shared activity can be joined but with some caveats: -- all XOs correctly start-up and show all 3 buddy icons in right frame -- the sharing XO (Mesh1) can only actually chat successfully with XO on Mesh1 -- the XO not on Mesh1 fails to Chat with the others (stays in Private mode) My concern here is that I thought allowing Mesh + AP (though technically possible) had been disabled to prevent network storms in school installations. It appears that the Mesh is still running even when connected to an AP... Also in schools with APs but no schoolservers I'd be worried kids will be seeing a lot of sharing glitches/bugs because their XO had drifted off the AP (after a suspend usually for me). Can someone point me to a relevant trac ticket (there are so many it's hard to know what's relevant), or I'll go open another ;-) BTW: the above behaviour is the same for 2 XOs on AP ch 1, 1 XO Mesh1; and 2 XOs on Mesh1, and 1 XO on AP ch1. ** usually works fine, but suspending almost always kills subsequent AP access (neighbourhood icon goes an odd brown colour) and requires a reboot before the XO will connect to the AP again. *** D-Link DSL-G604T just using simple WEP authentication. to be clear, the bottom frame is only showing one network device so Mesh must be running with no UI hook being shown (I know there are other, separate I think, UI bugs where you see multiple network device icons down in the frame when trying to change networks). Sorry for the rambling email, --Gary ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: failures disabling security [was Re: journal is hard + sugar and the digital age]
Erik, I'll take a look at this. Joe --- At 11:45 AM 10/15/2008, Erik Garrison wrote: On Thu, Oct 09, 2008 at 02:30:47PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: On Thu, Oct 09, 2008 at 12:55:43PM -0400, Erik Garrison wrote: In particular, our security model has the effect of preventing work on this issue that isn't supported by all the core developers. Scott seems to be suffering from no impediment from our security model so please explain your complaint in more detail or rm /etc/olpc-security and get on with life. I am attempting to disable rainbow security with this command but finding failures with several activities: http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/8834 Joe: Perhaps we should add this test to the smoketest to prevent future regressions. Erik ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Fwd: Software ECO - OFW q2d17, per703-7, en708-2
I can't confirm or deny this. After downgrading a machine to Q2D16, reinstalling the build 708 and then installing the Joyride 2200, the right firmware (Q2E11) appeared to be installed. I didn't run the test without the external power supply because I'm (almost) sure that the original installation was done on external power. The abnormal behavior of the Joyride 2200, observed so far, is described in tickets #7648 (activities installation), #7693 (Browser activity doesn't run) and #7694 (olpc-netlog command is absent). Joe - At 04:08 PM 7/28/2008, Michael Stone wrote: On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 12:46:18PM -0400, Joseph A. Feinstein wrote: Kim, On the laptop where I installed Joyride 2200, I have OFW Q2D16. At this time it's not known whether it came with the build or it's a leftover from a previous (build 708) installation. Michael Stone will investigate. After a reboot with both AC and battery power sources connected, the (unlocked) machine in question now has Q2E11 installed. The most likely explanation is that the machine was unpowered when it was rebooted into joyride-2200. Can you confirm or deny this hypothesis? Can you reproduce the problem after downgrading the machine to q2d16? Michael P.S. - Please use public mail for publishable questions. Thanks. ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Video Chat
Ricardo, I do, and I'm going to repeat this test to collect more info. Regards, Joe --- At 11:57 AM 7/16/2008, Ricardo Carrano wrote: Guillaume, On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 11:51 AM, Guillaume Desmottes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Le mercredi 16 juillet 2008 à 09:31 -0300, Ricardo Carrano a écrit : I am trying to install the Video Chat activity, in order to check #7511. Following instructions in: http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2008-April/013227.html Fetching the rpms from: http://people.collabora.co.uk/~cassidy/olpc-video-chat/ All the rpms installs ok but the last which fails on dependency for libtelepathy-glib.so.0. Where can I get this lib? I tried some obvious things, like yum install libtelepathy, but it didn't help. Humm this is weird. Which build are you using? Could you check what rpm -qa | telepathy returns ? It is candidate-708: telepathy-gabble-0.7.1-0.8.olpc2 telepathy-salut-0.2.3-1.olpc2 telepathy-filesystem-0.0.1-2.fc7 telepathy-glib-0.6.1-1.olpc2 This version is too old. telepathy-stream-engine requires at least telepathy-glib 0.7.6. You should try using Joyride. Ok, thanks! Mm, I just don't get how joe (Joe, are you listening to this?) reported that the video-chat activity saturates bandwidth (#7511) on build 708. Have you seen this ticket? Cheers! Ricardo ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Video Chat
Hi Ricardo, BTW, I don't know for sure what element in particular is responsible for results I have observed: networking, fedora, sugar, activity... Regards, Joe At 07:10 PM 7/16/2008, Ricardo Carrano wrote: Hey Michael, So, according to http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/7511#comment:3, Joe got a build from you to test (which he refers to as 'build 708'). In this build he was able to run the Video-Chat activity, which seems to me to be in early beta stage, and reports his findings (a crash) as a network problem (in the same #7511). Guillaume notes that the video-chat activity is supposed to run in joyride, since it needs a newer version of telepathy-glibs. I am trying to further investigate this, but I am confused on what exactly was used on the test. Would you recall what exactly is the build that Joe is testing? Thank you very much! Cheers! Ricardo On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 11:57 AM, Ricardo Carrano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Guillaume, On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 11:51 AM, Guillaume Desmottes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Le mercredi 16 juillet 2008 à 09:31 -0300, Ricardo Carrano a écrit : I am trying to install the Video Chat activity, in order to check #7511. Following instructions in: http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2008-April/013227.html Fetching the rpms from: http://people.collabora.co.uk/~cassidy/olpc-video-chat/ All the rpms installs ok but the last which fails on dependency for libtelepathy-glib.so.0. Where can I get this lib? I tried some obvious things, like yum install libtelepathy, but it didn't help. Humm this is weird. Which build are you using? Could you check what rpm -qa | telepathy returns ? It is candidate-708: telepathy-gabble-0.7.1-0.8.olpc2 telepathy-salut-0.2.3-1.olpc2 telepathy-filesystem-0.0.1-2.fc7 telepathy-glib-0.6.1-1.olpc2 This version is too old. telepathy-stream-engine requires at least telepathy-glib 0.7.6. You should try using Joyride. Ok, thanks! Mm, I just don't get how joe (Joe, are you listening to this?) reported that the video-chat activity saturates bandwidth (#7511) on build 708. Have you seen this ticket? Cheers! Ricardo ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: wiki spam!
I had the same instance today, with a community testing page. Spoke with Kim... she said it's a wiki's feature, not a bug! ;-( Joe - At 03:49 PM 6/20/2008 -0400, Polychronis Ypodimatopoulos wrote: It's becoming very annoying having to deal with spam (bots?) operating on the wiki, trying to blank wiki pages, like in the case of the following: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Multi-hop_mesh_network_in_MIT_campus Is there a way to prevent that? Why not require user logins to make edits? p. -- Polychronis Ypodimatopoulos Graduate student Viral Communications MIT Media Lab Tel: +1 (617) 459-6058 http://www.mit.edu/~ypod/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
