Re: [Sugar-devel] Community XO software builds

2015-05-07 Thread Martin Dengler
On Thu, May 07, 2015 at 10:16:42AM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 12:10 AM, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: 2. there are missing desktop packages, which means we are taking on maintenance of those packages on CentOS, Having tried and failed to do this back when

Re: [Sugar-devel] Community XO software builds

2015-05-07 Thread Martin Dengler
On Wed, May 06, 2015 at 11:21:35PM -0400, Samuel Greenfeld wrote: OLPC already appears to be going the Ubuntu LTS route When/where can I read more about what OLPC is doing with Ubuntu LTS? Apologies for the lazyweb request. Martin pgpmmvPQ1vjFZ.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: XO keymap blues

2010-10-11 Thread Martin Dengler
On Thu, Oct 07, 2010 at 11:29:41PM +0200, Sascha Silbe wrote: Next step is to figure out why udev doesn't work, but I'll leave that for another day. Both /sys/class/dmi/id/sys_vendor and /sys/class/dmi/id/product_name match the values in the rules files. In case you happen to be seeing the

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar 0.88 in F11-XO1

2010-02-24 Thread Martin Dengler
On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 07:43:33PM -0300, Bernie Innocenti wrote: From today's #sugar-meeting: erikos bernie: I think a big problem to recruit 0.88 testers, is that there are no xo images erikos bernie: scratch builds, like tomeu said, sounds good erikos bernie: and then create a repo

Re: [Sugar-devel] OOM conditions

2009-11-08 Thread Martin Dengler
On Sun, Nov 08, 2009 at 12:07:58PM +, Lucian Branescu wrote: Slightly off-topic, has anyone tried compcache (http://code.google.com/p/compcache/) on an XO-1? I might if I can get it to work. Yes. It works very well. http://www.google.com/search?q=compcache+xo Martin pgpNfpVzilNu4.pgp

Re: OOM conditions

2009-11-07 Thread Martin Dengler
On Fri, Nov 06, 2009 at 04:50:53PM +, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 14:16, Martin Dengler mar...@martindengler.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 11:22:13PM +0100, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 16:58, Richard A. Smith rich...@laptop.org wrote: Working

Re: OOM conditions

2009-11-04 Thread Martin Dengler
On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 11:22:13PM +0100, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 16:58, Richard A. Smith rich...@laptop.org wrote: Working the table at the Boston book festival I was reminded how painful the OOM stuff is on a gen 1. The demo machines were in this state a lot as each

Re: [Sugar-devel] Terminal.xo patch: do not die if the cwd is gone

2009-11-04 Thread Martin Dengler
On Tue, Nov 03, 2009 at 12:08:20PM -0500, paul fox wrote: On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 11:04 AM, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote: Attached is a trivial patch that handles gracefully the situation where cwd does not exist anymore or is no longer accessible to the olpc user.

Re: the importance of providing swap space

2009-10-23 Thread Martin Dengler
On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 03:28:08PM +0100, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 15:10, Tiago Marques tiago...@gmail.com wrote: It seems you got lucky, the most common behavior is for it to crash. I've been an advocate of SWAP for the XO since I got one, even things like browsing

Re: [Testing] first play with new XO 1.5 machines

2009-10-22 Thread Martin Dengler
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 03:36:50PM +0545, Daniel Drake wrote: One of the biggest headaches we have to deal with, even when we have infrastructure networks, is the bug where every XO has a different set of neighbours on the neighbourhood view. Now we'd be making that bug a feature. Isn't this

Re: tap-to-click feedback

2009-10-22 Thread Martin Dengler
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 02:40:04PM +0200, Bert Freudenberg wrote: On 22.10.2009, at 14:01, James Cameron wrote: I can only relate personal experience ... yes, it caught me by surprise quite a few times in the past few days. Me too - e.g., in TamTamMini it's easy to accidentally

Re: [Testing] first play with new XO 1.5 machines

2009-10-21 Thread Martin Dengler
On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 10:18:54AM +0200, Martin Langhoff wrote: The convention is that the OS build is identified by someting in the form of /etc/foo-release (lsb-release). The SoaS plan is to create /etc/soas-release, FWIW. cheers, m Martin pgpKeeV0I5lGX.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Images partitioned right? Good USB drives? (Re: Woodhouse on flash storage)

2009-10-09 Thread Martin Dengler
On Fri, Oct 09, 2009 at 04:23:17PM -0700, S Page wrote: On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 3:10 AM, Mitch Bradley w...@laptop.org wrote: b) If you must construct a fixed partition layout for use on multiple different devices, align each partition on at least a 4MiB boundary. That means that you waste

Re: Woodhouse on flash storage

2009-10-05 Thread Martin Dengler
On Sun, Oct 04, 2009 at 01:59:29PM -0400, Chris Ball wrote: http://www.advogato.org/person/dwmw2/diary/211.html Thanks for the links - it's nice to keep up with what's going on in the flash-expert world. How might the outcome of these debates affect the use of the microSD internal storage on

Re: soas70xo impressions

2009-09-29 Thread Martin Dengler
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 10:14:34AM -0400, Mikus Grinbergs wrote: The X crash scrolling problem is a BLOCKER I know, you heard it here first. Care to bugzilla it? 'rpm -q kernel' attests to sloppy composing of the build. Sloppy is hardly the moniker for the general practice of having two

[PATCH] override new rpm %install behavior

2009-09-28 Thread Martin Dengler
New rpm behavior is to disallow %build to write to $RPM_BUILD_ROOT: http://www.linux-archive.org/fedora-packaging/361136-unwanted-directory-removal-during-rpm-build.ht ml The kernel spec does this all over the place. This change is the Red Hat patch: * Wed Jul 22 2009 Tom spot Callaway

Re: [Sugar-devel] 0.84 for XO-1 (was Re: Sugar-devel Digest, Vol 11, Issue 94)

2009-09-18 Thread Martin Dengler
: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/F11_for_XO-1 I also think that Martin Dengler is working on this as well, but I'm not sure how their work relates to each other. In the past I was building images of my own and trying to get people to test them, but for a while now I haven't had time to do more

Re: soas63xo impressions

2009-09-16 Thread Martin Dengler
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 08:37:15PM -0400, Mikus Grinbergs wrote: Disclaimer: I am not asking for help; I'm sharing my experiences. Thanks for reporting your experiences. You're good at finding builds that aren't even announced :). Ran with soas63xo (booted from nand) on my XO-1. Many of

Re: OFW access from linux

2009-09-16 Thread Martin Dengler
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 11:18:17AM +0800, Mitch Bradley wrote: It is gratifying that so many people like the idea of being able to zap back into OFW from Linux - especially since I got such intense pushback when I first proposed leaving OFW resident on OLPC. Why? Security reasons? Martin

Re: OFW access from linux

2009-09-15 Thread Martin Dengler
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 10:42:46AM -0400, Paul Fox wrote: on the XO, openfirmware stays resident when linux runs, and is accessible via an API specified in arch/x86/kernel/ofw.c. i've just pushed a commit to our 2.6.30 kernel branch that adds a sysrq hook (SysRq-y) for starting (returning

Re: [Sugar-devel] How to make a SoaS (or liveCD) from scratch

2009-09-11 Thread Martin Dengler
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 10:00:09AM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 04:04, Martin Dengler mar...@martindengler.com wrote: On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 03:01:47AM +0100, Martin Dengler wrote: On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 06:43:31PM -0300, Andrés Nacelle wrote: Hi guys, basically

Re: [Sugar-devel] How to make a SoaS (or liveCD) from scratch

2009-09-10 Thread Martin Dengler
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 06:43:31PM -0300, Andrés Nacelle wrote: Hi guys, basically I'm trying to do a SoaS or a live CD with the image we are using now on the XO, which has our own selection of activities and packages. You want to take an XO-1's filesystem from its NAND and make it bootable on

Re: [Sugar-devel] How to make a SoaS (or liveCD) from scratch

2009-09-10 Thread Martin Dengler
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 03:01:47AM +0100, Martin Dengler wrote: On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 06:43:31PM -0300, Andrés Nacelle wrote: Hi guys, basically I'm trying to do a SoaS or a live CD with the image we are using now on the XO, which has our own selection of activities and packages. You

Re: SoaS-for-XO-1 image

2009-08-22 Thread Martin Dengler
On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 05:41:55PM -0400, Mikus Grinbergs wrote: as usual with all F11-on-XO1 builds to date 'Record' (quickly) gave up the ghost, without showing me any moving picture output from the camera. The camera doesn't work in Record, which is at least this bug:

Re: [Sugar-devel] RFH - Journal corruption reports fom 8.2.1 users in Uy

2009-08-21 Thread Martin Dengler
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 10:36:44AM +0200, Martin Langhoff wrote: 2009/8/21 Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org: 2009/8/21 Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com: 2009/8/21 Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org: Yes, though if we manage to get the logs dir of a machine just after the DS was

Re: [Sugar-devel] New SoaS-on-XO-1 build done: soasxo57

2009-08-21 Thread Martin Dengler
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 05:06:50PM -0400, Paul Fox wrote: martin wrote: - Power management is disabled (XO is configured not to sleep since rtcwake never wakes up) the failure of suspend/release in this distro seems to be directly related to the absence of a getty on the serial

[PATCH] always start the serial console to work around rtcwake never waking up

2009-08-21 Thread Martin Dengler
--- etc/event.d/ttyS0 |1 + 1 files changed, 1 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-) diff --git a/etc/event.d/ttyS0 b/etc/event.d/ttyS0 index 164d982..6b467e1 100644 --- a/etc/event.d/ttyS0 +++ b/etc/event.d/ttyS0 @@ -4,6 +4,7 @@ start on stopped rc2 start on stopped rc3 start on stopped rc4

Re: [PATCH] always start the serial console to work around rtcwake never waking up

2009-08-21 Thread Martin Dengler
[that's a patch to olpc-utils] On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 11:57:45PM +0100, Martin Dengler wrote: --- etc/event.d/ttyS0 |1 + 1 files changed, 1 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-) diff --git a/etc/event.d/ttyS0 b/etc/event.d/ttyS0 index 164d982..6b467e1 100644 --- a/etc/event.d/ttyS0 +++ b

Re: yum with recent soas builds on XO-1

2009-08-14 Thread Martin Dengler
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 05:14:04AM -0400, Martin Langhoff wrote: On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 2:51 PM, Martin Denglermar...@martindengler.com wrote: Like I said, I'd stop that behaviour when/if I get to it unless someone beats me to it or explains why we want this. Not sure about *that*

Re: yum with recent soas builds on XO-1

2009-08-14 Thread Martin Dengler
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 07:30:19AM -0400, Martin Langhoff wrote: On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 6:44 AM, Martin Denglermar...@martindengler.com wrote: This thread segment is about SoaS now (a bit OT for devel@, I agree), which is not doing anything like the initrd /versions hardlinking. I am

Re: yum with recent soas builds on XO-1

2009-08-14 Thread Martin Dengler
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 07:55:39AM -0400, Mikus Grinbergs wrote: Martin Dengler wrote: Not sure about *that* mountpoint in particular, but a forest of invisible tmpfs mounts is present in the XO image because we use stateless Fedora. This allows olpc-update to work its magic. This thread

Re: yum with recent soas builds on XO-1

2009-08-13 Thread Martin Dengler
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 06:22:56PM -0400, Mikus Grinbergs wrote: Disclaimer: I am not asking for help; I am sharing my experiences. Apparently irrespective of the content of /etc/fstab, recent F11-on-XO1 builds are _mounting_ /var/cache/yum as a tmpfs. After a very quick look, F11-on-XO

Re: yum with recent soas builds on XO-1

2009-08-13 Thread Martin Dengler
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 01:28:25PM -0400, Mikus Grinbergs wrote: Apparently irrespective of the content of /etc/fstab, recent F11-on-XO1 builds are _mounting_ /var/cache/yum as a tmpfs. I do not know how come yum on SoaS3 tries to stuff that additional huge file into /var/cache/yum, when os5

[PATCH] add CONFIG_DISABLE_SUSPEND_VT_SWITCH=y to XO-1 defconfig

2009-08-05 Thread Martin Dengler
a la the change to XO-1.5 defconfig to set CONFIG_DISABLE_SUSPEND_VT_SWITCH=y from commit ad61cc33bd070e2c7bf98d4574b998fde58c862d, update XO-1 defconfig similarly. Stops make silentoldconfig for the XO-1 from failing. --- arch/x86/configs/xo_1_defconfig |1 + 1 files changed, 1

Re: [PATCH] don't show ul-warning when switching to runlevels 3 or 4

2009-07-21 Thread Martin Dengler
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 09:47:58AM +0545, Daniel Drake wrote: 2009/7/21 Martin Dengler mar...@martindengler.com: ---  init.d/ul-warning |    2 +-  1 files changed, 1 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-)  mode change 100644 = 100755 init.d/ul-warning diff --git a/init.d/ul-warning b/init.d/ul

[PATCH] don't show ul-warning when switching to runlevels 3 or 4

2009-07-20 Thread Martin Dengler
--- init.d/ul-warning |2 +- 1 files changed, 1 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) mode change 100644 = 100755 init.d/ul-warning diff --git a/init.d/ul-warning b/init.d/ul-warning old mode 100644 new mode 100755 index 045979e..86c51a8 --- a/init.d/ul-warning +++ b/init.d/ul-warning @@ -1,7 +1,7

What should I do about the ISA PIT timer?

2009-07-17 Thread Martin Dengler
Hi Support Gang / devel@, I hae a Repair Center laptop whose one OFW test sometimes fails: The ISA PIT timer did not reach a count of 1. This happens about 2-5% of the time I run the selftest word from that device node in OFW (Q2E41): /pci/i...@f/ti...@i40. I can't find much on google about

[PATCH] add F11-updates and F11-testing (for dracut, etc.)

2009-07-16 Thread Martin Dengler
--- olpc-base.ks |2 ++ 1 files changed, 2 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-) diff --git a/olpc-base.ks b/olpc-base.ks index c72c8ff..d0b3088 100644 --- a/olpc-base.ks +++ b/olpc-base.ks @@ -13,6 +13,8 @@ repo --name=olpc --cost=3 --baseurl=http://dev.laptop.org/~dsd/xo1-rpms repo

Re: reviving XO-1 OS builds

2009-07-14 Thread Martin Dengler
below: From 9e09c3deb7de1e37c9784e7cb2fa73e6224bf779 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Martin Dengler mar...@martindengler.com Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 21:27:11 +0100 Subject: [PATCH] add F11-updates and F11-testing (for dracut, etc.) --- olpc-base.ks |2 ++ 1 files changed, 2 insertions(+), 0

Re: reviving XO-1 OS builds

2009-07-14 Thread Martin Dengler
On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 09:36:13PM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: I wrote some notes on how someone could build new OS images for XO-1 based on the ongoing XO-1.5 software efforts, and how this could be run as a community-driven process: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/F11_for_XO1 A fairly

XO-1 Camera in F11?

2009-07-10 Thread Martin Dengler
Has anyone seen the XO-1 camera working (or even just detected) in Record or Cheese with F11? I'm using the latest kernels with this change, so I don't think it's (just) that: http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2009-May/024363.html Martin pgprjohfE4XhF.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: XO-1 Camera in F11?

2009-07-10 Thread Martin Dengler
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 11:16:19AM +0100, Daniel Drake wrote: On Fri, 2009-07-10 at 10:43 +0100, Martin Dengler wrote: Has anyone seen the XO-1 camera working (or even just detected) in Record or Cheese with F11? I'm using the latest kernels with this change, so I don't think it's

Re: New kernel branch for XO-1 and XO-1.5 development

2009-07-10 Thread Martin Dengler
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 11:22:45AM +0100, Daniel Drake wrote: On Fri, 2009-07-10 at 11:12 +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: I discussed at Fudcon with Sebastian, Scott etc about resurrecting the Sugar Spin in Fedora which would allow us to have automated builds and make use of the new autoqa

Re: XO-1 Camera in F11?

2009-07-10 Thread Martin Dengler
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 11:02:48AM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 10:57 AM, Tomeu Vizosoto...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 11:43, Martin Denglermar...@martindengler.com wrote: Has anyone seen the XO-1 camera working (or even just detected) in Record

Re: New kernel branch for XO-1 and XO-1.5 development

2009-07-09 Thread Martin Dengler
On Wed, Jul 08, 2009 at 10:27:03PM -0700, John Gilmore wrote: Note that currently there is nothing keeping anyone from installing a kernel meant for one gen machine on a different gen machine. Just don't do that. :) Eventually if both machines are going to run a standard Fedora release,

Re: New kernel branch for XO-1 and XO-1.5 development

2009-07-09 Thread Martin Dengler
On Wed, Jul 08, 2009 at 01:43:31PM -0700, Deepak Saxena wrote: I've spent some time merging the XO-1 and XO-1.5 kernels into a new branch and made some tweaks to the in-kernel RPM build scripts. Very cool, thanks. I've built new kernel rpms to a yum repo: http://dev.laptop.org/~mdengler/xo-1

Re: New kernel branch for XO-1 and XO-1.5 development

2009-07-09 Thread Martin Dengler
On Thu, Jul 09, 2009 at 03:47:32PM +0100, Martin Dengler wrote: To differentiate between an XO-1 and XO-1.5 RPM, the generation name is now inserted into the RPM name. For example: kernel-2.6.30_xo1-20090708.1.olpc.1fd3a66.i586.rpm - XO-1 RPM kernel-2.6.30_xo1.5-20090708.1.olpc

[PATCH] build kernel-firmware rpms again

2009-07-09 Thread Martin Dengler
--- olpc/SPECS/kernel-xo1.5.spec | 37 +++-- olpc/SPECS/kernel-xo1.spec | 37 +++-- 2 files changed, 70 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-) diff --git a/olpc/SPECS/kernel-xo1.5.spec b/olpc/SPECS/kernel-xo1.5.spec index

[PATCH 0/4] patches for olpc-2.6:xo-v2.6.30 branch

2009-06-29 Thread Martin Dengler
format-patch --cover-letter: Chris Ball (1): Trac #9338: ext4=y Martin Dengler (3): don't be quiet during make silentoldconfig configure CONFIG_FCOE_FNIC as 'not set' add with_firmware option to play nice with F11 kernel-firmware rpms arch/x86/configs/olpc_defconfig |9

[PATCH 3/4] add with_firmware option to play nice with F11 kernel-firmware rpms

2009-06-29 Thread Martin Dengler
--- olpc/SPECS/olpc-2.6.spec | 37 +++-- 1 files changed, 35 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-) diff --git a/olpc/SPECS/olpc-2.6.spec b/olpc/SPECS/olpc-2.6.spec index d04f4ae..64d9d68 100644 --- a/olpc/SPECS/olpc-2.6.spec +++ b/olpc/SPECS/olpc-2.6.spec @@ -15,6 +15,8

[PATCH 2/4] configure CONFIG_FCOE_FNIC as 'not set'

2009-06-29 Thread Martin Dengler
--- arch/x86/configs/olpc_defconfig |1 + 1 files changed, 1 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-) diff --git a/arch/x86/configs/olpc_defconfig b/arch/x86/configs/olpc_defconfig index d443f7a..19afd08 100644 --- a/arch/x86/configs/olpc_defconfig +++ b/arch/x86/configs/olpc_defconfig @@ -937,6 +937,7

[PATCH 4/4] Trac #9338: ext4=y

2009-06-29 Thread Martin Dengler
From: Chris Ball c...@laptop.org Signed-off-by: Chris Ball c...@laptop.org Signed-off-by: Martin Dengler mar...@martindengler.com --- arch/x86/configs/olpc_defconfig |8 +++- 1 files changed, 7 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) diff --git a/arch/x86/configs/olpc_defconfig b/arch/x86/configs

[PATCH 1/4] don't be quiet during make silentoldconfig

2009-06-29 Thread Martin Dengler
make silentoldconfig should be silent anyway, and if it's not, well, it's telling us about something broken --- olpc/SPECS/olpc-2.6.spec |2 +- 1 files changed, 1 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) diff --git a/olpc/SPECS/olpc-2.6.spec b/olpc/SPECS/olpc-2.6.spec index e42fbc7..d04f4ae 100644 ---

Re: bitfrost python modules mess

2009-06-26 Thread Martin Dengler
On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 04:00:46PM +0100, Daniel Drake wrote: Hi, In the latest sugar, the activity updater doesn't work because it can't import bitfrost.update.actutils Here's the kludge that works around the problem just for the activity updater:

Re: [OT] Test run of 2009/05/25 image

2009-06-11 Thread Martin Dengler
On Tue, Jun 09, 2009 at 11:44:11AM -0700, Stanley Sokolow wrote: Personally, I feel it is a mistake for the OLPC project to continue with the concept of the Sugar platform as its exclusive model for an educational computer.The Sugar applications (activities) could just as well be run from

olpc-2.6 2.6.30-rc5 /dev/rtc0 broken

2009-06-04 Thread Martin Dengler
Hi Deepak, I'm seeing one of these commits: http://dev.laptop.org/git/olpc-2.6/commit/?h=2.6.30-rc5id=351881b12fa5628ee44f27dd4d28482b0d66dff4 http://dev.laptop.org/git/olpc-2.6/commit/?h=2.6.30-rc5id=8dc06e452713a214220516649d216fd603888ad9 ... as stopping commands like rtcwake -m mem -a -s 5

Re: [Server-devel] [Sugar-devel] What is the vision for software update?

2009-06-01 Thread Martin Dengler
On Mon, Jun 01, 2009 at 11:54:34AM -0400, Caroline Meeks wrote: Does it require Root to update the software? root is required to update the OS via yum/rpm. Do students do it themselves somehow? Students can update Activities via the Sugar control panel. Is the updating of activities vs

Re: [IAEP] 3D engine uses in a no-nonsense GUI (was: XO Gen 1.5)

2009-04-21 Thread Martin Dengler
On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 05:02:23AM -0400, Albert Cahalan wrote: Christoph Derndorfer writes: I honestly can't think of a use-case for including any sort of 3D acceleration into the basic Sugar and activities. One can use a 3D accelerator to greatly improve human factors in the GUI. [...]

Re: move to rawhide update

2009-04-07 Thread Martin Dengler
On Tue, Apr 07, 2009 at 05:17:09PM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote:  Why don't the SoaS/~cjb distributions contain the latest rawhide packages ? Because rawhide is a daily moving development target. Aren't you both right? The builds contain the latest rawhide packages as of the image creation

Re: Announcing Fedora 11 Beta for XO

2009-04-06 Thread Martin Dengler
On Mon, Apr 06, 2009 at 11:57:14AM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 11:54 AM, Martin Dengler mar...@martindengler.com wrote: On Sun, Apr 05, 2009 at 01:43:07PM +0100, Martin Dengler wrote: - network frame icon still blank (I think for the same reason as   http

Re: Announcing Fedora 11 Beta for XO

2009-04-06 Thread Martin Dengler
On Sun, Apr 05, 2009 at 01:43:07PM +0100, Martin Dengler wrote: - network frame icon still blank (I think for the same reason as http://dev.sugarlabs.org/ticket/307 ) - some WPA (1) networks unable to be associated with (not sure why, could be #307 again) I just rebuilt a Soas2-based

Re: Announcing Fedora 11 Beta for XO

2009-04-05 Thread Martin Dengler
On Sat, Apr 04, 2009 at 08:18:50PM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: Out of interest does OFW support ext4? I've tried today to get a SD card to boot using your image with no luck, but shoved a usb key in that has the standard F11 beta on it and the kernel booted straight up but got no further. If

Re: Announcing Fedora 11 Beta for XO

2009-04-05 Thread Martin Dengler
On Sat, Apr 04, 2009 at 06:39:53PM +0200, Martin Langhoff wrote: On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 3:10 PM, Martin Dengler mar...@martindengler.com wrote: I'd test Soas-2 (what I'm running on my XO now).  Just a personal opinion. Yeah, that's what I am thinking of doing. Is there stuff

Re: Announcing Fedora 11 Beta for XO

2009-04-04 Thread Martin Dengler
On Sat, Apr 04, 2009 at 12:13:36PM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: Here's a build of the F11 beta release for XO:   http://dev.laptop.org/~cjb/rawhide-xo/f11-beta/ Instructions on flashing are at http://dev.laptop.org/~cjb/rawhide-xo/. How does this relate to the recent SoaS builds?

Re: Announcing Fedora 11 Beta for XO

2009-04-04 Thread Martin Dengler
On Sat, Apr 04, 2009 at 01:05:39PM +0200, Martin Langhoff wrote: On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 9:51 PM, Chris Ball c...@laptop.org wrote: Here's a build of the F11 beta release for XO:   http://dev.laptop.org/~cjb/rawhide-xo/f11-beta/ Instructions on flashing are at

Re: [IAEP] DC Photo Jam 2 - New batch of photos of SoaS running onnetbooks

2009-03-17 Thread Martin Dengler
On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 05:42:36AM -0400, John Watlington wrote: On Mar 17, 2009, at 5:34 AM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 04:48, John Watlington w...@laptop.org wrote: I would expect it to be faster on other processors. I don't think the processor is the biggest factor. In

[PATCH] olpc-utils rpm requires bootanim for pyvt

2009-03-16 Thread Martin Dengler
diff --git a/olpc-utils.spec.in b/olpc-utils.spec.in index b77e105..2a525c9 100644 --- a/olpc-utils.spec.in +++ b/olpc-utils.spec.in @@ -21,6 +21,9 @@ Requires: /bin/su # for olpc-test-devkey Requires: olpcupdate = 2.10 +# for pyvt +Requires: bootanim + %description Tools for starting

FW: SoaS on XO bootcharts

2009-03-04 Thread Martin Dengler
In case XO F11 boot times are of especial interest to anyone: - Forwarded message from Martin Dengler mar...@martindengler.com - Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 22:57:33 + From: Martin Dengler mar...@martindengler.com Subject: SoaS on XO bootcharts To: sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org, fedora

Re: [Sugar-devel] Future of Rainbow + Sugar?

2009-02-24 Thread Martin Dengler
--- Carol Farlow Lerche c...@msbit.com wrote: things that the activity developers can and can't do As an aside, I yesterday uploaded a simple activity to addons.sugarlabs.org. This activity runs on os767 and soas (afaik). Your post and this discussion made me realize that I hadn't had to

Re: [Sugar-devel] Future of Rainbow + Sugar?

2009-02-24 Thread Martin Dengler
--- Wade Brainerd wad...@gmail.com wrote: Backup, a far more useful and achievable solution to this problem. I don't see how Rainbow, something _working_ and pretty usable on my XO right now, is usefully compared to backup, a solution similar in specificity to the aphorism be careful and

Re: Fedora 10 on XO

2008-12-04 Thread Martin Dengler
On Thu, Dec 04, 2008 at 06:36:53PM -0500, Greg Smith wrote: [Chris] So we'd ship two different distributions on the NAND? GS - Yes. GS: I think you meant desktop environments, not distributions. Greg S Martin pgp75WddDP55Y.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [sugar] notes from the field - Mongolia

2008-10-09 Thread Martin Dengler
On Thu, Oct 09, 2008 at 08:10:57PM -0400, Deniz Kural wrote: [this list is out of touch] Hence, student, or teacher, I need a USB stick. 1. Plug USB stick into XO running build from the last six months 2. Drag files from the Journal to the USB stick icon 3. Drag files from the USB stick's file

Re: [sugar] notes from the field - Mongolia

2008-10-09 Thread Martin Dengler
On Thu, Oct 09, 2008 at 05:36:10PM -0700, Edward Cherlin wrote: Martin, Deniz, cool it, the pair of you. No more ad hominem attacks. Relax. As to my ad-hominem attacks, how is it ad-hominem to say that someone who says something incorrect is out of touch (with the truth/progress/etc.)? Or say

Re: [IAEP] sugar and the digital age (was Re: notes from the field - Mongolia)

2008-10-09 Thread Martin Dengler
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 03:13:27AM +0200, Bert Freudenberg wrote: Am 09.10.2008 um 19:10 schrieb elana langer: Essentially, in the minds of [teachers, parents, gov't officials], fluency on windows, being able to do power point presentations and surf the web is what being prepared means.

Re: Major power concern

2008-10-07 Thread Martin Dengler
On Tue, Oct 07, 2008 at 09:56:10AM +0200, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 6:02 AM, John Gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: /usr/share/sugar/shell/view/devices/battery.py #TODO: make this less of an wild/educated guess minutes_remaining =

Re: 5 sec boot

2008-10-03 Thread Martin Dengler
On Fri, Oct 03, 2008 at 03:24:25PM +0200, NoiseEHC wrote: If you somehow missed it, there is possible to boot Linux in 5 seconds on an EeePC. http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=s7NxCM8ryF8 Here is the paper: http://www.fenrus.org/plumbers_fastboot.ppt Could somebody explain me whether these

Re: [sugar] Impressions of Sugar's appeal to technical users (was: Supporting desktop applications, extending the EWMH spec)

2008-09-22 Thread Martin Dengler
On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 02:52:09PM -0400, Erik Garrison wrote: On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 05:01:41PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: My impression, based on historical conversations with the parties involved is that there are a bunch of hackers who feel that we did ourselves a disservice by

Re: [sugar] frame gets in the way when alt-tabbing

2008-09-22 Thread Martin Dengler
On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 06:05:34PM -0400, Luke Faraone wrote: On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 16:58, Mikus Grinbergs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [Since there is a key dedicated to bringing up Journal when needed, I sometimes patch homemodel.py to not even show Journal during alt-tabbing.] I was

Re: 8.2-760 AP connect problem

2008-09-21 Thread Martin Dengler
On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 05:10:22PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: You folks might be interested to know that you can teach NetworkManager to prefer connecting to APs instead of to the mesh. I believe the command is echo infra /etc/NetworkManager/mesh-start If anyone gets this to work

Re: Automatic (Bulk) delete all journal records

2008-09-17 Thread Martin Dengler
On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 05:54:50PM -0300, Alejandro Fernandez wrote: Hi! Is there a way to delete all journal entries in a single step? (maybe from the terminal tool?) From the terminal or a console, this should do it: mv ~olpc/.sugar/default/datastore ~olpc/.sugar/default/datastore.deleted

Re: [sugar] G1G1v2 Activities

2008-09-17 Thread Martin Dengler
On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 05:54:45PM -0400, Greg Smith wrote: Hi All, We need to pick the activities we ship with 8.2 when its manufactured for G1G1 users. [...] What do you think are the most important activities to include? Please pick up to 10 and put them in order of priority. Going

Re: Libertas firmware on F9 for the XS

2008-09-12 Thread Martin Dengler
On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 01:10:58AM -0400, Michail Bletsas wrote: Martin Langhoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 09/12/2008 12:50:50 AM: Where is that list? Who has it? Who coordinates bugtracking for the libertas stuff? Can't be that much of a mistery. /important If that's a mystery to you

Re: Expected date for 8.2.0

2008-09-10 Thread Martin Dengler
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 03:09:46PM +0200, Bert Freudenberg wrote: Am 10.09.2008 um 14:52 schrieb Walter Bender: Or add the ubiquitous parens around the icon a la the indicator light? That's *exactly* what I was thinking :) A halo/parens could look really nice. - Bert - Martin

Re: recognizing a previous connection

2008-09-10 Thread Martin Dengler
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 09:25:57AM -0400, Mikus Grinbergs wrote: To me, the G1G1 environment is characterized by NOT using the same connection each time. Please don't make it cumbersome to switch APs AFAIK, NetworkManager should Just Do This every time you return to within range of an AP to

Re: Stability and Memory Pressure in 8.2

2008-09-09 Thread Martin Dengler
On Tue, Sep 09, 2008 at 12:10:53AM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: Dear devel@, Kim, Greg, and I have concluded that the instability we experience under memory-pressure in 8.2-759 and similar is the single hard issue that we wish to _attempt_ to address before releasing 8.2 on current

Re: Stability and Memory Pressure in 8.2

2008-09-09 Thread Martin Dengler
On Tue, Sep 09, 2008 at 03:13:28PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [759 sugar shell leak] seems more like 4.5 MB/hour. joyride-2399 sitting back at home with no activities, doing nothing all day: -bash-3.2# uptime 18:14:19 up 20:46, 8 users, load average: 0.15, 0.09, 0.12 -bash-3.2#

RE: Terminal Text Fragment Drop Support Patch

2008-09-08 Thread Martin Dengler
- original message - From: Cortland Setlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am looking for suggestions on how to upload patches from Sugar. I use copy-to-journal (olpc-support-scripts) on the git-format-patch/diff output to get things in the journal. I wonder how hard it'd be to teach Web/Browse to try

Re: [RFC] obtaining and using field samples of XO system images

2008-09-06 Thread Martin Dengler
On Fri, Sep 05, 2008 at 03:00:35PM -0300, Erik Garrison wrote: -= Question =- How are we planning on obtaining simple information such as [1] which activities are most used/downloaded, [2] which ones generate the most data, [3] common software failures, [4] bug manifestation rate etc.?

Re: Greg Smith's Weekly Report

2008-09-05 Thread Martin Dengler
On Fri, Sep 05, 2008 at 11:55:33AM -0400, Greg Smith wrote: In order to keep the community involved, motivated and knowledgeable, Michael suggested we share it with this list. This a great suggestion and great practice. I hope we don't abuse the access. Thanks, Greg S Martin

Re: joyride 2369 - yum fails with key error

2008-08-31 Thread Martin Dengler
On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 02:55:18PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you try to use yum install in joyride 2369 it fails with a key error. Yup: http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/8125 Martin pgpUWUqTdo34P.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Devel mailing

Re: Power-on to GUI in 20 seconds

2008-08-29 Thread Martin Dengler
On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 04:03:53PM -0400, Jim Gettys wrote: we should keep our eye on the prize of fast suspend/resume. We're at 1.3 seconds; our hardware is good to .05 seconds (...and the crowd goes wild!) Amen. - Jim Martin pgpaz8QVvoaqn.pgp Description:

Re: Power-on to GUI in 20 seconds

2008-08-29 Thread Martin Dengler
On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 04:51:23PM -0400, Richard A. Smith wrote: Creating a initial suspend image that is loaded on boot [is] trivial to setup. The reason we don't do it is because it burns up a 100 or so megs of NAND space. Could SD/USB key space be used instead of NAND? Martin

Re: Power-on to GUI in 20 seconds

2008-08-29 Thread Martin Dengler
On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 04:58:56PM -0400, Richard A. Smith wrote: Martin Dengler wrote: Could SD/USB key space be used instead of NAND? Yes. But then you have to ship one of those devices. Indeed. For G1G1 people like me an SD card that allowed me to boot super quickly, or even a few

Re: Power-on to GUI in 20 seconds

2008-08-29 Thread Martin Dengler
On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 05:47:02PM -0400, Richard A. Smith wrote: [tuxonice keep image mode pointers] So it appears I need to recompile and boot a tuxonice kernel to get an image[1]. In case anyone can steer me away from the wrong direction, I'm going to try: # kernel-foo 1) to compile the

Re: Regressions(?) in latest joyride build 2321, 2323

2008-08-25 Thread Martin Dengler
On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 02:54:54PM -0400, Ton van Overbeek wrote: [...] On the neighborhood view and in the frame there is no longer a Disconnect option after you associate an AP. [...] Is the removal of the 'Disconnect' option intentional? There will be no 'Disconnect' option because

Re: [sugar] how can communications mode be manually controlled ?

2008-08-25 Thread Martin Dengler
On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 12:48:02AM -0400, Mikus Grinbergs wrote: 1) To turn OFF both communication with the mesh and communication with the AP, use the control panel. Either Network -- Radio or Power -- Extreme Power Management seemed to work for me. But the control panel only

Re: joyride version announcements

2008-08-20 Thread Martin Dengler
On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 09:53:22PM -0400, Polychronis Ypodimatopoulos wrote: Why are new versions of Joyride not announced? Bert pointed out http://dev.laptop.org/~rwh/announcer/streams.py to me yesterday, and it look as if the announcer doesn't bother if the joyride build hasn't succeeded

Re: New wireless/mesh icon info testers needed (#2866, #6995)

2008-08-12 Thread Martin Dengler
On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 07:02:49PM +1000, James Cameron wrote: On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 08:21:55AM +0100, Martin Dengler wrote: Thanks very much! If you have any comments on how I could have made it easier for you to test [...] I have serious suggestions. Thanks. They are valued. git

Re: First impressions of joyride-2280

2008-08-11 Thread Martin Dengler
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 02:15:28PM -0400, Chris Ball wrote: Hi, - After suspending with the power button however (screen goes off) and resuming with the power button, eth0 is down and does not come up automatically. Manually bringing it up with ifconfig and assigning it the

Re: XO keeps staring at its own belly button

2008-08-09 Thread Martin Dengler
On Fri, Aug 08, 2008 at 09:23:57PM -0700, Ixo X oxI wrote: On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 14:55, Andrew Burgess [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have you tried with a swap partition? Swap is robust now on a SD card, immune to suspend/resume and power cycle. External swap area sounds cool. How does one set

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