Re: dnshash update.

2011-04-16 Thread Michael Stone
On Tue, 12 Apr 2011 at 18:41:05 -0400, C. Scott Ananian csc...@laptop.org wrote: On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 10:04 PM, Michael Stone mich...@laptop.org wrote: I recently taught dnshash to ping potential addresses before returning them as results. This isn't a great solution, but it does appear

Re: Mesh Potatos and OLPCs?

2011-03-23 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, 23 Mar 2011 at 20:47:44 -0400, Ed McNierney e...@laptop.org wrote: While I am not familiar with the Mesh Potato, I have spent some time trying to figure out whether wireless mesh networking is really as hard as the OLPC universe seems to find that it is. tl;dr: Mesh Potatoes might make

Re: 11.2.0 development build 14 released

2011-03-20 Thread Michael Stone
On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 at 18:46:12 +, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote: On 20 March 2011 18:05, C. Scott Ananian csc...@laptop.org wrote: so fakeroot (at least debian/unstable's version of fakeroot) should be able to handle this just fine. You're right, this should work. But it

Re: Content-Centric Networking.

2011-02-18 Thread Michael Stone
On Fri, 18 Feb 2011 at 11:00:52 -0500, C. Scott Ananian csc...@cscott.net wrote: Recapping for the list: Jim Gettys sent me a pair of papers to read yesterday, both linked from http://www.ccnx.org/content/content-centric-networking-resources 1) V. Jacobson, D. K. Smetters, J. D.

Re: Help with signing messages

2011-02-13 Thread Michael Stone
On Thu, 3 Feb 2011 at 15:02:21 -0200, Esteban Bordon ebor...@plan.ceibal.edu.uy wrote: 2011/1/29 Michael Stone mich...@laptop.org On Fri, 28 Jan 2011 at 14:40:54 -0200 Esteban Bordon wrote: I trying to make a notification system that reads messages from sqlite3 database and show them via

Re: Help with signing messages

2011-01-29 Thread Michael Stone
On Fri, 28 Jan 2011 at 14:40:54 -0200 Esteban Bordon wrote: I trying to make a notification system that reads messages from sqlite3 database and show them via dbus notifications. I want to store a hash of the message inside the db to verify each message before show it, but I don't know how I

Re: [Sugar-devel] Memory leak in Sugar -- how to dump Py data

2010-10-07 Thread Michael Stone
See http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/10386 for details. The sugar-session process in 10.1.2 grows slowly... There's some form of leak somewhere. Maybe we are triggerin a real python leak, maybe we have reference loops. How do we trace this? Tomeu wrote some instructions here:

Re: olpc-update and deletion of old images

2010-09-06 Thread Michael Stone
Dan, First and foremost, your approach seems reasonable to me. Second, here are some more detailed background comments: When olpc-update updates you from version A to version B, version A remains on the system and can be accessed by booting with the 'O' game key held down. As far as I

Re: [support-gang] Fwd: Redesigning: Library, Read, Get-Books, and Content bundles

2010-07-24 Thread Michael Stone
Gary, Yioryos, Here are a couple of thoughts for you on isolation issues. (I have thoughts on the Journal issues too but I'll save them for another occasion.) Step 3 is to introduce marks (hyperlinks?) in Read and Write where hovering over you get the tag opened to tell you what is about, and

Re: [Sugar-devel] Activity packaging

2010-07-07 Thread Michael Stone
Aleksey wrote: On Wed, Jul 07, 2010 at 01:18:04AM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: Bernie wrote: On Tue, 2010-07-06 at 12:02 -0400, Benjamin M. Schwartz wrote: I think you are missing an important requirement: installation without elevated permissions. Rainbow has been bit-rotting

Re: [Sugar-devel] Activity packaging

2010-07-06 Thread Michael Stone
Bernie wrote: On Tue, 2010-07-06 at 12:02 -0400, Benjamin M. Schwartz wrote: I think you are missing an important requirement: installation without elevated permissions. XO and SoaS distributions are configured for sudo with no password. Yes. However, Uruguay does not maintain this

Re: [IAEP] Gnome vs Sugar -- The judgement day

2010-06-25 Thread Michael Stone
Teachers demand a technological mean to solve a problem of discipline and computer literacy. Launch GNOME under a separate account with a quota and with limited or no sudo access. This will cut out most of the mayhem, thereby buying you time to work out a more integrated solution. Michael

Re: Help with permissions under Rainbow sought

2010-04-18 Thread Michael Stone
Bert Freudenberg wrote: On 18.04.2010, at 14:10, Sascha Silbe wrote: On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 09:26:23PM -0400, George Hunt wrote: Rainbow changes UID for every invocation [...] Yes, that's the default behaviour. Rainbow can be instructed to use a constant UID (Browse does); according to the

Re: Help with permissions under Rainbow sought

2010-04-18 Thread Michael Stone
George Hunt wrote: I had looked for an input mechanism to Rainbow's CONSTANT_RAINBOW_UID without success. So thanks for your pointer. Where did you look? (I'd like to go fix it...) I'm curious to know why you think using a constant UID is undesireable. Making things constant-uid in the

Re: Android, OLPC, and native hosting

2009-12-27 Thread Michael Stone
Does the XO-1 host its own development tools? For all practical purposes, it does not. First, as you have noted, it takes quite a bit of bandwidth to install the toolchain and development headers. (And you have to know what they're called.) Second, to get anything done with C, you really

ANN: rainbow-0.8.6 release.

2009-12-21 Thread Michael Stone
/mstone/security/tree/?id=rainbow-0.8.6 setup: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Rainbow/Installation_Instructions tests: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Rainbow/Testing The shortlog from rainbow-0.8.5..rainbow-0.8.6 is: Bernie Innocenti (1): Capture XAUTHORITY. Michael Stone (19): Remove

ANN: rainbow-0.8.5 release.

2009-11-28 Thread Michael Stone
-0.8.4..rainbow-0.8.5 is: Michael Stone (10): Correct a logging statement. Make rainbow-sugarize set up /{data,instance,tmp}. Temporarily disable $XAUTHORITY processing in rainbow-sugarize. Drop config file management from rainbow-sugarize. Add a network option

DNS Mischief, cont'd: dnshash-0.3.0 released!

2009-11-23 Thread Michael Stone
Innocenti (2): Eat up extra space in nsswitch.conf on 'make disable'. Make redirection work in /bin/sh; fix lint. Michael Stone (8): Only return live addresses as results. Add newnetns subcommand to ease testing. Teach dnshash to answer AF_INET6 queries. Add

versioned partitioned upgrading: safety boot configuration

2009-11-04 Thread Michael Stone
Hi Dan, I'm working on updating olpc-update and the initramfs to be able to work with a partitioned layout where /boot is separate from the rest of the system. Thanks for the good documentation at http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Early_boot You're welcome; apologies that it isn't better. :) First

versioned partitioned upgrading: clean up / config creation

2009-11-04 Thread Michael Stone
Last question for now: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Early_boot#Clean_Up This part of the page seems to suggest that you only create a /versions/configs entry for systems where an unpartitioned layout is being used, and no config would be created for a partitioned layout. Am I reading that

Re: XO automatic clock setting

2009-08-27 Thread Michael Stone
2009/8/27 Martin Langhoff mar...@laptop.org: 4. sig02 leases are still unsupported in the latest OpenFirmware, but it looks like we have renewed interest in getting this finished off, so no initramfs changes will be needed in this area. Here Daniel skips the fact that there is a homely but

Re: [Sugar-devel] erasing the journal and config

2009-08-27 Thread Michael Stone
Luke Faraone wrote: James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: I've tested this method only on unlocked laptops. For locked laptops some similar method might be used. For locked laptops you would *need* to get a developer key, or have OLPC sign the file. The latter won't happen. OFW's

Re: DNS Mischief

2009-07-12 Thread Michael Stone
On Sun, Jul 5, 2009 at 8:36 PM, Michael Stonemich...@laptop.org wrote: d) rewrite as an NSS module? This turned out to be only a few minutes' work and the result is really easy to compile and install. See http://dev.laptop.org/git/users/mstone/dnshash/tree/README

Re: FIltering out languages via kickstart

2009-07-10 Thread Michael Stone
Sayamindu, I like your answer but I think that it leaves some important goals unstated -- most notably, click2trans, horizontal distribution of translations, and translation undo. See http://cscott.net/Publications/OLPC/fudcon-i18n.pdf and

Re: DNS Mischief

2009-07-08 Thread Michael Stone
On Sun, Jul 5, 2009 at 8:36 PM, Michael Stonemich...@laptop.org wrote: d) rewrite as an NSS module? e) rewrite in an external DNS resolver? Either of these would make it much easier to play with your patch, eliminating the whole now recompile your C library from scratch step. ;-) Pff. It

DNS Mischief

2009-07-05 Thread Michael Stone
@@ +eglibc (2.9-13.1) unstable; urgency=low + + * Non-maintainer upload. + * debian/rules.d/build.mk: build libcrypt into libc + * debian/patches/any/hack-up-getaddrinfo.diff: install getaddrinfo hack. + + -- Michael Stone mich...@laptop.org Sat, 04 Jul 2009 19:06:59 -0400 + eglibc (2.9-13

Re: [Sugar-devel] Browse.xo -- preserving a downloaded filename?

2009-06-30 Thread Michael Stone
Martin Langhoff wrote: On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 7:25 PM, Bert Freudenbergb...@freudenbergs.de wrote: What's your use case? In the normal course of operation, the XOs will work with the XS over wireless, getting their individual leases. This is a fallback rescue leases.sig . Here's a

Re: overhead in a G1G1 environment

2009-05-29 Thread Michael Stone
A bit of background about olpc-update 'pushes': @pgf: as i recall, there was/is a provision for OLPC to push (via that polling mechanism) updates to the g1g1 machines. Correct. See http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Update_streams

ANN: rainbow-0.8.4 release.

2009-04-12 Thread Michael Stone
Folks, I've put together a new rainbow release, rainbow-0.8.4, http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Rainbow http://dev.laptop.org/~mstone/releases/SOURCES/rainbow-0.8.4.tar.bz2 with three tasty new features which I think you might enjoy. New Features 1) support for reusing

Rainbow, olpc-update, and olpcrd.

2009-04-08 Thread Michael Stone
The main and probably most major issues outstanding are the kernel/boot process - so kernel/initscripts/olpcrd/initscripts/upstart/rainbow collection of stuff of which I have no real idea about. Updates? Peter, Your remark does not contain any specific questions so it's a little hard for

Re: [Server-devel] adding custom dns entries on XS

2009-03-17 Thread Michael Stone
On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 04:04:06PM -0400, Daniel Drake wrote: 2009/3/17 Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com: It's in my plans to have a means to do what you're doing. I was wondering about  - a conf.d approach  - a pre-processor for the .in files that handles ifdef-style blocks  -

Re: [Server-devel] notes on scaling ejabberd for the XO's

2009-03-17 Thread Michael Stone
On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 06:30:17PM -0400, Daniel Drake wrote: 2009/3/15 Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com: Client code for Gadget seems to be integrated in the Telepathy new Sugar present on the SoaS images. The server side -- the proper gadget code -- isn't on any XS, and I haven't

Re: [Sugar-devel] Future of Rainbow + Sugar?

2009-03-02 Thread Michael Stone
On Mon, Mar 02, 2009 at 02:08:38PM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: The changes to sugar might be minimal but the changes to the underlying OS are not so simple. From my (which is very basic) understanding there is patches to at least the kernel, initscripts, upstart and telepathy and possibly dbus

Re: [Sugar-devel] Future of Rainbow + Sugar?

2009-03-01 Thread Michael Stone
On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 10:09:26AM -0800, Carol Farlow Lerche wrote: My post was a request to the most knowledgeable person, Michael to do the service of taking the time to write a document that clearly lays out . the purpose (not in security speak but in terms of the benefits it brings to end

Future of Rainbow + Sugar?

2009-02-24 Thread Michael Stone
On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 01:47:01AM -0500, Mikus Grinbergs wrote: [Also, I'm hearing whispers of 'no Rainbow' after Joyride.] Mikus, In my view, it's up to the SugarLabs folks to use Rainbow or to drop it. I have tried to clear the way for them to use it on all the platforms they care about by

Re: [Sugar-devel] Future of Rainbow + Sugar?

2009-02-24 Thread Michael Stone
On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 05:41:09PM +0100, Sascha Silbe wrote: On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 11:24:37AM -0500, Michael Stone wrote: http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2008-December/010528.html Thanks for your work! I sure hope it'll get used instead of dropped, it's the #1

Re: [Sugar-devel] Future of Rainbow + Sugar?

2009-02-24 Thread Michael Stone
On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 12:29:57PM -0500, Wade Brainerd wrote: To me, Bitfrost was just one more lofty windmill OLPC tried to tilt because it seemed like an interesting challenge. So you've said in the past. What of it? I'm not clear why Sugar needs more protection from rogue activities than a

Re: [Sugar-devel] Future of Rainbow + Sugar?

2009-02-24 Thread Michael Stone
On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 08:56:06AM -0800, Carol Farlow Lerche wrote: Michael, I think your work on Rainbow is very important, but I think it is a bit opaque. Carol, Thanks you for this detailed critique of my documentation efforts to date. One thing that I've (obviously) struggled with is

Re: Future of Rainbow + Sugar?

2009-02-24 Thread Michael Stone
On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 03:45:33PM -0300, Daniel Drake wrote: Hi Michael, 2009/2/24 Michael Stone mich...@laptop.org: In my view, it's up to the SugarLabs folks to use Rainbow or to drop it. How realistic is it to make rainbow something generic that all environments and applications could use

Re: [Sugar-devel] Future of Rainbow + Sugar?

2009-02-24 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 11:33:30AM +1300, Martin Langhoff wrote: You are now talking about the implementation of rainbow that provides userland privilege isolation. For the record, rainbow only describes the userland privilege isolation part. The rest is just OFW, olpcrd, olpc-update, OATS

Re: [Sugar-devel] Future of Rainbow + Sugar?

2009-02-24 Thread Michael Stone
On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 06:05:51PM -0500, Benjamin M. Schwartz wrote: Sugar/OLPC simply never had SELinux experts I'm pretty sure this is false. For instance, I know that ancient OLPC+RH kernels has SELinux enabled and I know that the SELinux folks at RH have always been excited to help me to

Re: [Sugar-devel] Future of Rainbow + Sugar?

2009-02-24 Thread Michael Stone
On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 10:22:07PM +, Gary C Martin wrote: remind me, Pippy's getting special case hack permission to drive a 8 line highway through Rainbow security permissions, right? Unfortunately, no. No one has yet completed an implementation of the gates needed to guard access to the

RFC: Supporting olpc-ish Deployments - Draft 1

2009-02-18 Thread Michael Stone
Folks, Pia Waugh (greebo) and I have spent a fair bit of time in the last month talking and thinking about what we can do in the next few months to best support present and future olpc-ish deployments (typically with XOs, typically running Sugar) and we'd like to share some of our thoughts with

[Server-devel] Mass olpc-update via XS?

2009-02-18 Thread Michael Stone
Dear XS folks, Daniel Drake, currently in Paraguay, wants to try implementing the procedure described in http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Mstone/Commentaries/Mass_olpc-update via XSen (using DNS to redirect the XOs' theft-deterrence protocol requests to the local XS.) However, after briefly

Reminder: Deployment Support Mtg @ UTC 2000; 3:00 PM Boston

2009-02-17 Thread Michael Stone
Hi folks, Daniel Drake (dsd) asked me to send out an reminder to people who might be interested in asking and answering questions relevant to XO deployments. If you'd like to partake, please join us in #olpc-deployment on irc.freenode.net at UTC 2000 (3:00 PM Boston), which is in about 35

Minutes from olpc-friends' Feb. 03 and 10 Deployment Meetings

2009-02-10 Thread Michael Stone
Folks, Last Tuesday, we held an awesome deployment meeting (at 2000 UTC on #olpc-deployment on irc.freenode.net) which featured sustained engagement with the Hernan's deployment troika: logistico, técnico y pedagógico, as well as extensive brainstorming of solutions for issues relevant to Peru,

Re: Please update etoys in 8.2.1

2009-02-06 Thread Michael Stone
so after the 8.2.1 release the plan is to just switch to standard Linux distros? Speaking entirely as a volunteer: the answer depends on who you ask. Since I think that 8.2.0 wasn't half bad, I'm currently trying to persuade people who feel similarly to work with me to assemble an 8.2.2 with

8.2.1 Thoughts

2009-02-05 Thread Michael Stone
Hey folks, Here are some more unofficial thoughts on how 8.2.1 is progressing: 1) Daniel Drake discovered some annoying wifi regressions (#9235). We need to find root cause here, e.g. by bisecting the kernel patches added since 8.2.0 and testing each resulting kernel with both the

Re: Joyide on Fedora 11/rawhide

2009-02-04 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Feb 04, 2009 at 05:53:14PM -0500, Chris Ball wrote: Hi, This is Fedora's initramfs, right? Right. Peter's suggestion is to use pilgrim to create rawhide builds, hence using the olpc initramfs. That's an interesting idea. I don't like it long-term, because no-one's working

Deployment Support Mtg -- Today, 2000 UTC, #olpc-deployment

2009-02-03 Thread Michael Stone
Hey folks, This is just to remind you that we'll be meeting at 2000 UTC today (3:00 PM Boston) in #olpc-deployment on irc.freenode.net to chat about deployment support topics. Detailed minutes from this meeting will appear at http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Deployment_meetings/20090203

Summary Minutes from olpc-friends' Tuesday Deployment Meeting

2009-01-29 Thread Michael Stone
Folks, We had an awesome deployment meeting this Tuesday at 2000 UTC on #olpc-deployment on irc.freenode.net. Almost 30 people came, with knowledge of 10 different deployments! Summary and minutes are now available at http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Deployment_meetings/20090127#Summary

8.2.1 Release Status - Thursday, Jan. 29, 2008

2009-01-29 Thread Michael Stone
Folks, I just thought I'd offer some unofficial advice on the state of 8.2.1 for interested listeners: a) In the last several weeks, there has been significant package churn at all levels of the stack including: kernel bootanim bootfw olpc-utils libX11 xkeyboard-config

Small DNS questions.

2009-01-25 Thread Michael Stone
Scott, I've been conducting some thought experiments with the imaginary DNS server you describe in http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Network_principles#Name_resolution and I've developed a couple of small questions which I'd like your advice on, e.g. a) When multiple links are present, does the

Re: Backlight control

2009-01-24 Thread Michael Stone
David -- why quibble over ohm when you've got NM and HAL to worry about? Paul -- why are the /sys nodes only writable by root? Michael On 1/24/09, da...@lang.hm da...@lang.hm wrote: On Sat, 24 Jan 2009, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 3:43 PM, p...@laptop.org wrote: but

Notes from an impromptu 8.2.1 Release Mtg.

2009-01-22 Thread Michael Stone
Hi folks, Kim Quirk kindly stopped by #olpc-meeting this evening and precipitated an impromptu discussion between herself, me, cjb, edmcnierney, mchua, and garycmartin on how to push 8.2.1 a few inches closer to release. The main conclusion that we reached after we updated

Summary and minutes from Pia's first Deployment Meeting.

2009-01-20 Thread Michael Stone
educat...@lists.laptop.org Cc: Bcc: Dulmandakh Sukhbaatar dulmand...@adsolux.com, guadalupe, emiliano Subject: Summary and Minutes from the Jan 20, 2009 Deployment Meeting Reply-To: Hi everyone, Here is the summary and the edited minutes for the first of Pia's new deployment support meetings:

Farewell.

2009-01-09 Thread Michael Stone
Like many of my esteemed colleagues, I am parting ways with OLPC. I will treasure the memory of our collective adventure... ...while naturally looking forward to new opportunities: professional, educational, and otherwise. Michael P.S. - (Anyone else wondering what happened to their social life

Re: Customized images

2009-01-06 Thread Michael Stone
On Mon, Jan 05, 2009 at 02:27:45PM -0500, Carlos Dario Isaza Zamudio wrote: I have a fully customized XO and i need to take an image from it to be installed on several computers inside the project. The thing is i need it to be separated from the activity pack, like the ones you use to update via

Re: Fedora Desktop on XO

2009-01-06 Thread Michael Stone
On Tue, Jan 06, 2009 at 12:19:52PM -0800, Deepak Saxena wrote: On Jan 06 2009, at 14:42, Chris Ball was caught saying: Hi, I think I missed the previous conversation, re: estimate , but I'm thinking that swap will have significant impact on the lifetime of the flash chip. With

Re: Fedora Desktop on XO

2009-01-06 Thread Michael Stone
Greg, I don't mean to be nasty, but I do feel the need to be blunt: On Tue, Jan 06, 2009 at 04:28:36PM -0500, Greg Smith wrote: Hi Michael, We are definitely behind where I would like to be at this stage. How far behind? However, we'll only move the date when we must and we'll only do it

Re: Customized images

2009-01-06 Thread Michael Stone
On Tue, Jan 06, 2009 at 03:52:44PM -0500, Erik Garrison wrote: On Tue, Jan 06, 2009 at 03:23:32PM -0500, Michael Stone wrote: On Mon, Jan 05, 2009 at 02:27:45PM -0500, Carlos Dario Isaza Zamudio wrote: I have a fully customized XO and i need to take an image from it to be installed on several

Re: Fedora Desktop on XO

2009-01-06 Thread Michael Stone
On Tue, Jan 06, 2009 at 07:40:07PM -0500, Reuben K. Caron wrote: Peter Robinson wrote: Hi Chris, I would remove the old fc9 build from the olpc_development repo (or even have one for 8.2.0 and one for 9.1.0 so they don't get mixed up). Surely it should be pulling cyrus-sasl

Re: Emulating 8.2-767

2009-01-05 Thread Michael Stone
On Mon, Jan 05, 2009 at 01:07:00PM -0500, Wade Brainerd wrote: I would love to convert my OLPC Installer for Windows over to VMWare. In my experience it provides a better experience on Windows. I'd also like to convert it over to using Bert's image rather than the stock 8.2.0 image. What would

Re: Emulating 8.2-767

2009-01-05 Thread Michael Stone
On Mon, Jan 05, 2009 at 01:18:53PM -0500, Wade Brainerd wrote: On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 1:16 PM, Michael Stone mich...@laptop.org wrote: On Mon, Jan 05, 2009 at 01:07:00PM -0500, Wade Brainerd wrote: I would love to convert my OLPC Installer for Windows over to VMWare. In my experience

Re: Please help test our pre-release build of 8.2.1

2009-01-05 Thread Michael Stone
On Fri, Jan 02, 2009 at 11:04:01PM +0100, Bert Freudenberg wrote: On 02.01.2009, at 17:09, Brian Pepple wrote: Hi All, A pre-release build of 8.2.1 is now available for testing. It has passed an initial smoke test and now needs broader testing. The build download and problem reporting

Re: Problems with Adobe Flash player on the XO.

2009-01-02 Thread Michael Stone
On Fri, Jan 02, 2009 at 10:56:59PM +0800, Carlos Nazareno wrote: Ditto. I've tried Sugarizing newer versions of Opera myself, but we're out of luck because of the Rainbow Security implemented in newer XO OS builds don't allow writing of files by Activities to certain directories that Opera

Re: performance work

2008-12-31 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 09:20:27AM -0700, Jordan Crouse wrote: The solution to the performance problems is good old fashioned elbow grease These are the sorts of things that we need to find and squash - and yes, it will be very time consuming and a little boring. Several anecdotes for your

Re: Minutes of Power in 9.1.0 meeting

2008-12-25 Thread Michael Stone
On Thu, Dec 25, 2008 at 12:19:37AM -0800, John Gilmore wrote: along similar lines an issue I have been seeing with the network screen (but haven't gotten around to reporting). my home access point is encrypted and sometimes I can reconnect to it without a problem, but sometimes it acts as

Re: communication among heterogeneous software versions

2008-12-25 Thread Michael Stone
On Thu, Dec 25, 2008 at 12:41:37PM -0500, Mikus Grinbergs wrote: It's good that these heterogeneous-software-version XOs were able to see each other's presence. But being shown two different kinds of information in the output illustrated a potential exposure -- What if the systems at a

8.2.1 Smoke Testing

2008-12-24 Thread Michael Stone
Hey folks. We could use your help testing our first real 8.2.1 integration build, named 'staging-7' You can find it at http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/xo-1/streams/staging/build7/devel_jffs2/ The tickets which people think it fixes are here: http://tinyurl.com/8r6clm If you can't

Re: 8.2.1 Smoke Testing

2008-12-24 Thread Michael Stone
P.S. - I know that Mel volunteers have done some awesome work on systematic testing for 8.2.1 here: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Test_cases_8.2.1 and that results from the Old Smokey of OLPC testing, http://wiki.laptop.org/go/1_hour_smoke_test would be truly appreciated. P.P.S. - If I

Re: Deployment image customization

2008-12-23 Thread Michael Stone
On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 09:18:51PM +0200, Morgan Collett wrote: On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 18:29, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote: On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 2:19 PM, Greg Smith gregsmitho...@gmail.com wrote: Your suggestion that we allow addition of RPMs and get those built into a signed image

Re: Deployment image customization

2008-12-23 Thread Michael Stone
On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 11:46:09AM -0800, Edward Cherlin wrote: On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 11:26 AM, Michael Stone mich...@laptop.org wrote: On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 09:18:51PM +0200, Morgan Collett wrote: On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 18:29, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote: On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 2

Re: Deployment image customization

2008-12-23 Thread Michael Stone
On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 03:29:08PM -0500, p...@laptop.org wrote: daniel wrote: On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 8:08 PM, p...@laptop.org wrote: ssh host keys are probably generated on first boot as well. with partitioning support, it should be possible to have a r.o. root overlaid by a

Problems revealed by a report of detailed changes to 8.2.1 tickets.

2008-12-22 Thread Michael Stone
Ed, I made http://dev.laptop.org/report/39?TIME=80 in the image of one of my old 8.2.0 reports. (TIME is the number of seconds of history that you want to view so that URL shows you all changes to tickets with milestone 8.2.1 made in the last 9-10 days). At the time of this writing, over the

Re: Problems revealed by a report of detailed changes to 8.2.1 tickets.

2008-12-22 Thread Michael Stone
On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 01:57:56PM -0500, Ed McNierney wrote: Michael - Are we able to promptly and regularly generate 8.2.1 builds that reflect the work being done? For basic testing purposes, yes. Scott's weekend report indicated that he set up a 'staging' build stream on xs-dev. You can

Re: Fixed Puritan bug on F10/Intrepid

2008-12-17 Thread Michael Stone
On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 03:03:08PM -0500, Reuben K. Caron wrote: Michael, The build was successfully made on both F10 and Intrepid. How could I slip in a language pack? How could I set the Timezone for the build? How could I set the default language for sugar? Well, first, figure out how would

Fixed Puritan bug on F10/Intrepid

2008-12-15 Thread Michael Stone
Reuben, I was able to reproduce and work around the rpmdb version problem you found today on a new Intrepid vm I created on weka.l.o. Would you mind retesting with my new 767 compilation? (To do so, just wipe the compilation and re-clone it. I modified the cloning instructions so that, in the

Re: a build reproducibility test

2008-12-13 Thread Michael Stone
On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 03:53:14PM +1100, James Cameron wrote: On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 12:40:37PM -0500, Michael Stone wrote: On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 03:27:21PM +1100, James Cameron wrote: Why can't the build system be replicated so that each developer can test their change before releasing

Re: 2588 - Journal unusable

2008-12-12 Thread Michael Stone
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 03:27:21PM +1100, James Cameron wrote: G'day Chris, I'll give a partial line of reasoning response ... this is not complete, I'm short of time. Where I said public, I meant developer builds that can be used by other developers. I didn't mean to imply public builds for

Re: Free Software Foundation Files Suit Against Cisco For GPL Violations

2008-12-12 Thread Michael Stone
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 11:52:54AM -0800, Edward Cherlin wrote: On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 11:14 AM, John Gilmore g...@toad.com wrote: OLPC is at risk of similar action unless it gets its act together. The project and its customers have skated by on GPL compliance, figuring that we're the good

Re: Free Software Foundation Files Suit Against Cisco For GPL Violations

2008-12-12 Thread Michael Stone
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 12:34:18PM -0800, Edward Cherlin wrote: On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 12:22 PM, Michael Stone mich...@laptop.org wrote: On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 11:52:54AM -0800, Edward Cherlin wrote: http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/4268 That's a lost cursor bug. I assume you meant some other one

Re: Wireless activation improvements.

2008-12-11 Thread Michael Stone
On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 03:35:53PM -0200, Martin Langhoff wrote: On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 3:27 PM, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote: The primary use case that the Ethiopia team is interested in is automating/simplifying the lease *renewal* which is done at schools, not a warehouse. Lease

Re: 8.2.1 Bug review meeting - 1 PM EST Friday 12/12/08

2008-12-11 Thread Michael Stone
On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 01:50:58PM -0500, Ed McNierney wrote: OK, someone made a boo-boo. Some time in the last hour or two Trac got updated with 308 new Milestone=8.2.1 tickets. I'd appreciate anyone who's recently made bulk updates reconsider their actions. Thanks! Someone closed the 8.2.0

8.2.1 builds now underway.

2008-12-11 Thread Michael Stone
Dear world, I pasted together an 8.2.1 build stream by copying the 8.2 build stream on pilgrim.laptop.org, substituting 8.2.1 for 8.2 everywhere appropriate, adding a branch to mock.laptop.org's git repository, and updating the upgrade server's branch-url map. In short, you can now: download

Re: Way to tell if it is an XO

2008-12-10 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 09:56:39AM -0200, Marcel Renaud wrote: Thanks a lot for your answers. Yes, I think a shared credentials are the best way. Basically we want to offer a service just for the Xos and are working now on the authentication model. We are going to use webservices with

Wireless activation improvements.

2008-12-10 Thread Michael Stone
Ed, Kim, Emiliano, and Guadalupe, As described in http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/8976, I've succeeded in repairing wifi-activation to my satisfaction. However, in its present form, wifi-activation only makes use of the mesh and does not attempt to acquire leases over any 802.11b/g networks.

Re: One instance activity

2008-12-09 Thread Michael Stone
I believe that Browse already works this way. (There are many ways to implement the feature, given the shared data directory available to all instances of an activity.) Michael ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org

Re: Clone a whole dir from dev.laptop.org/git ?

2008-12-09 Thread Michael Stone
How about: scp -r [EMAIL PROTECTED]/git/activities . ? (Or were you saying that you need a real shell on dev?) Michael ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Re: Trac tickets for 8.2.1 release mislabeled

2008-12-09 Thread Michael Stone
My fault; overeager scripting to the rescue. Apologies, Michael P.S. - People interested in improving or reusing said overeager scripting should examine and improve http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Trac_scripting ___ Devel mailing list

Re: wiki.laptop.org upgrade

2008-12-05 Thread Michael Stone
On Fri, Dec 05, 2008 at 07:11:04AM -0500, Ed McNierney wrote: Michael - Thanks; welcome back! I have been working on the request you made last week, and on trying to have something out this week as I said I would. Good to hear. It's been important to me to ensure I'm reflecting OLPC's

Re: wiki.laptop.org upgrade

2008-12-04 Thread Michael Stone
On Fri, Dec 05, 2008 at 01:47:02PM +1800, David Farning wrote: On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 10:41 AM, Ed McNierney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David - I don't understand that comment. What several efforts are you talking about? I don't think there were several efforts to publicize this outage - if

Journal2 patches + timings + notes

2008-12-01 Thread Michael Stone
Scott, I spent some more time with Journal2 today and implemented two minor features; namely, * display of the estimated no. of results - (which helps deal with the display of empty result-sets) * incremental display of results - (which makes it easier to time things).

Re: will there be an 8.2 update ?

2008-11-29 Thread Michael Stone
On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 05:48:17PM -0500, Mikus Grinbergs wrote: My reason for asking is that I have a problem with Network Manager 0.6 (ticket #8343). If there is a chance that 8.2 will be improved, I will leave that ticket open. If 8.2's Network Manager will not be updated, then I can close

Journal2 recipe...

2008-11-29 Thread Michael Stone
Scott, I've wanted to see Journal2 running on an XO for some time so I: 1. flashed 767 onto my XO and installed git. 2. checked out git://dev.laptop.org/users/cscott/journal2. * downloading and recompressing 80 MB of videos is really slow on an XO; please stick these in a submodule.

Re: Journal2 recipe...

2008-11-29 Thread Michael Stone
On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 09:18:12PM -0500, Michael Stone wrote: Scott, This is adequate to bring up a nice journal gui but, unfortunately, searches yield no documents, presumably because none have been indexed. What should I do in order to try out searching? Casual inspection of http

Re: [support-gang] G1G1 upgrade question I've received

2008-11-28 Thread Michael Stone
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 10:21:01AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: michael wrote: Just for the record, people using the 'olpc-update --usb' offline update method are probably going to want to use an 8.2 customization stick, e.g. the one archived in the 'gg-767-4.zip' file alongside the g1g1

Re: [support-gang] G1G1 upgrade question I've received

2008-11-28 Thread Michael Stone
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 10:49:14AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: maybe. but a README would be pretty easy. I like READMEs, but I don't want to be in the business of maintaining them. Unfortunately, I also don't really want to give the whole world shell access to download.l.o. Compromise

Re: Power Management plan for December.

2008-11-28 Thread Michael Stone
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 04:18:11PM -0500, Chris Ball wrote: Comments welcome. Are there important power management bugs that I've left out? Yes; namely, finding or writing a good technical introduction to the subject of power management as it applies to our software and hardware. Such a document

Re: [sugar] sugar 0.83 in joyride

2008-11-06 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Nov 05, 2008 at 03:34:14PM +0100, Simon Schampijer wrote: Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 10:31 AM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Masters of Joyride, have built updated sugar rpms and they seem to work fine on last joyrides. Marco pointed me out in #sugar

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