Re: [Sugar-devel] Making OLPC / Sugar Labs more approachable

2010-08-09 Thread Neil Graham
On Mon, 2010-08-09 at 14:05 -0400, Martin Langhoff wrote: We do a ton of things in relationship with our 'community' (or perhaps our different 'communities'). For example, we engage in this thread with you. And yet, Developers on this list [olpc-devel] have complained when people have done

Re: [Sugar-devel] Making OLPC / Sugar Labs more approachable

2010-08-08 Thread Neil Graham
On Sun, 2010-08-08 at 18:02 -0500, Mikus Grinbergs wrote: in general I think it's entirely appropriate to expect that people asking for help do so via the correct channels I believe that asking for help should not be the only supported motivation for contacting developers. Along these

Re: [Sugar-devel] Making OLPC / Sugar Labs more approachable

2010-08-08 Thread Neil Graham
On Sun, 2010-08-08 at 19:55 -0400, John Watlington wrote: On Aug 8, 2010, at 7:15 PM, Neil Graham wrote: There is a small open handheld console. http://www.openpandora.org/ http://pandorapress.net/ The openness and friendliness of the community environment is a model for how things can

Re: Adobe Flash 10.1 + AIR 2.0 on the XO

2010-03-25 Thread Neil Graham
On Wed, 2010-03-24 at 11:42 -0300, Gabriel Eirea wrote: My personal observation is that this came from a high demand on two fronts: kids and teachers complaining about youtube and online games on one side, and local companies used to develop web pages and such that wanted to create content

UDE - environment Alpha.

2010-01-06 Thread Neil Graham
I've been working on this a while. I've got something for people to look at. It's Alpha with many broken parts, but there's enough to get the idea and, cross fingers, encourage others to contribute. http://screamingduck.com/ude/ It's an environment aiming to provide an alternative to Sugar or

Re: Noise level on devel

2009-12-29 Thread Neil Graham
On Tue, 2009-12-29 at 09:26 -1000, Mitch Bradley wrote: I regret that I must once again unsubscribe from devel, as the noise level has gotten out of control. That 'noise' is engagement with the community. If you feel that olpc has the resources to provide a complete system through a cathedral

Re: Android, OLPC, and native hosting

2009-12-28 Thread Neil Graham
On Mon, 2009-12-28 at 19:38 +0100, Martin Langhoff wrote: emacs is what I am using on both XO-1 and XO-1.5 so pretty good going ;-) (Along with vim! Peace!) Lots of people here want to claim we need Eclipse to have an IDE. Of all the developers involved in the whole Linux

Re: XO-3 official

2009-12-23 Thread Neil Graham
On Wed, 2009-12-23 at 18:33 -0800, John Gilmore wrote: I would take it all with a large dose of salt. Also, as usual, the left hand at OLPC doesn't know what the right hand is doing. Actually I think the hands are all doing a very good job. It's the head that needs attention. One thing

Re: possible progress on XO-1 camera issues

2009-12-17 Thread Neil Graham
On Thu, 2009-12-17 at 11:47 -0300, C├ęsar D. Rodas wrote: This probably reflects a bug in the program. The error was 'BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)'. I'm doing some work that uses xv on the XO. I found that this occurred for me when running X in 24bit, but 16bit was ok. I'm

Re: 1.5 - gnome-packagekit?

2009-12-09 Thread Neil Graham
On Wed, 2009-12-09 at 02:55 -0500, Walter Bender wrote: Slightly off topic, but reading between the lines, it seems there is something more fundamentally broken here. 5000 packages. The Apple app store adds that many new apps every week it seems. Why aren't there 5 million packages available

Re: Swap to SD cards: performance and burnout test

2009-12-08 Thread Neil Graham
On Tue, 2009-12-08 at 10:18 +0100, Sascha Silbe wrote: I don't think it's terribly useful to test memory consuming non-interactive tasks. The problem is that the only way to get _comparable_, _repeatable_ numbers is to make the test non-interactive. Yup, but that's looking where you didn't

Re: Swap to SD cards: performance and burnout test

2009-12-07 Thread Neil Graham
On Mon, 2009-12-07 at 19:16 +0100, Sascha Silbe wrote: On Mon, Dec 07, 2009 at 03:41:10PM -0200, Emiliano Pastorino wrote: Does anyone come out with a possible test? Compilation in general (e.g. Linux kernel or sugar-jhbuild) seems to be quite stressful to SD cards and often consumes a lot

Re: 1.5 - gnome-packagekit?

2009-12-07 Thread Neil Graham
On Mon, 2009-12-07 at 19:13 -0500, Reuben K. Caron wrote: Since .XO and .XOL bundles were specifically designed to be safe for installation and removal, I'm concerned the inclusion of gnome- packagekit would allow one to more easily break their installation but I also think it would be

Re: os33 - video regression ?

2009-10-28 Thread Neil Graham
On Tue, 2009-10-27 at 11:28 -0700, Jon Nettleton wrote: Xv can blit both YUV and RGB data to the overlay. I do not know why do not they support Xv but this cannot be the reason... http://blogs.adobe.com/penguin.swf/2008/05/flash_uses_the_gpu.html Down under FAQ. It may be the reason

Re: Mouse wrap-around in X?

2009-10-07 Thread Neil Graham
On Tue, 2009-10-06 at 13:50 -0200, Emiliano Pastorino wrote: Does anybody know if there's any configuration in X or package which let you make the mouse pointer jump from one edge of the screen to the opposite one? This is a very useful feature for accessibility. While it's not its primary

Re: [Testing] New F11 for the XO-1 Build 7

2009-09-23 Thread Neil Graham
On Wed, 2009-09-23 at 10:13 +0800, Jerome Gotangco wrote: Thanks for this! I've tried it on an XO-1 and it updates fine. Don't suppose you could run a few programs to show some info to help me to decide if I want to switch to this. Boot then open up a terminal in X and type free df

Re: Why not Xfce? (was: Re: The XO-1.5 software plan.)

2009-05-18 Thread Neil Graham
On Sun, 2009-05-17 at 13:54 +0200, Martin Langhoff wrote: Work on getting a top-notch polished $desktop on it, and continued mantainership behind it, and it'll definitely be an option. It's reasonably easy to get desktops going, but good polish making it suitable for end users takes a ton of

Re: Why not Xfce? (was: Re: The XO-1.5 software plan.)

2009-05-18 Thread Neil Graham
On Sun, 2009-05-17 at 13:54 +0200, Martin Langhoff wrote: Work on getting a top-notch polished $desktop on it, and continued mantainership behind it, and it'll definitely be an option. It's reasonably easy to get desktops going, but good polish making it suitable for end users takes a ton of

Re: XO Gen 1.5

2009-04-17 Thread Neil Graham
On Fri, 2009-04-17 at 15:24 -0400, John Watlington wrote: The design goal is to provide an overall update of the system within the same ID and external appearance. In order to maximize compatibility with existing software, this refresh will continue with an x86 processor, using a chipset

Re: performance work

2008-12-31 Thread Neil Graham
On Tue, 2008-12-30 at 20:41 -0700, Jordan Crouse wrote: I'm curious as to why reads from video memory are so slow, On standard video cards it's slow because there is quite a division between the CPU and the video memory, but on the geode isn't the video memory shared in the same SDRAM as

Re: performance work

2008-12-22 Thread Neil Graham
On Mon, 2008-12-22 at 15:36 -0700, Jordan Crouse wrote: You might want to re-acquire the numbers with wireless turned off and the system in a very quiet state. If you want to be extra careful, you can run the benchmarks in an empty X server (no sugar) and save the results to a ramfs

Re: performance work

2008-12-17 Thread Neil Graham
On Tue, 2008-12-16 at 16:23 -0700, Jordan Crouse wrote: I recommend running the Cairo benchmarks on the XO again with acceleration turned off in the X driver. This will give you a good indication of which operations are being accelerated and which are not. Done.

Re: performance work

2008-12-16 Thread Neil Graham
On Tue, 2008-12-16 at 16:23 -0700, Jordan Crouse wrote: I would start by establishing a 1:1 baseline - it is great to compare against a 2Ghz Intel box, but that the differences between the two platforms are just too extreme. No matter how good the graphics gets, we are still constrained

Re: Sugar XFCE

2008-12-05 Thread Neil Graham
On Fri, 2008-12-05 at 19:37 +0800, Carlos Nazareno wrote: These days, 433MHz may seem unusable to the average Moore's law-spoiled user, but it was more than enough for me who grew up on a 4.77MHz 8088 as a kid (yeah, that's nothing to you guys over here who are older :P), a Pentium 166 MMX

Re: Parallel desktops

2008-06-26 Thread Neil Graham
On Friday 27 June 2008 1:59:16 pm Chris Ball wrote: Instead of (or as well as) preparing a separate disk image, we could prepare a Desktop activity which launches an Xfce session and includes some office tools, the standard NetworkManager applet, a configurable CUPS installation, and so on.

boot-anim

2008-06-13 Thread Neil Graham
As it stands now there seems to be no 100% reliable way to judge the compressed size of things on jffs2. I cast my eye to the boot-anim, uncompressed it comes to about 60 Meg, is there space being wasted there? http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/library/2007-July/70.html says JFFS2

Re: Frame Decision (was [sugar] OLPC priorities for Sugar in the August release)

2008-05-17 Thread Neil Graham
On Saturday 17 May 2008 5:26:06 pm John R.Hogerhuis wrote: One possible idea: rather than popping up the frame when near the edge, pop up a translucent overlay in key places that looks just like the keyboard frame key. If the user clicks on it, then bring up the whole frame. I had been

Re: c preprocessor.

2008-05-16 Thread Neil Graham
On Friday 16 May 2008 6:06:10 pm Martin Langhoff wrote: What happens if we remove it? Well, it looks like Ubuntu tried, and had to revert It looks like they just removed the dependency rather than a replacement. xrdb supports -cpp filename preprocessor to use [/usr/bin/cpp] so a

Re: View Source question

2008-05-16 Thread Neil Graham
On Saturday 17 May 2008 11:27:29 am Robert Myers wrote: 'View Source' is touted as one of the user win features of the XO. There doesn't seem to be much useful discussion of it on the wiki. What's the best path for making an activity 'view source' friendly? Reverse engineering from Chat,

c preprocessor.

2008-05-15 Thread Neil Graham
I noticed today that my xo (newly 703) has cpp which while modest in size seems to launch /usr/libexec/gcc/i386-redhat-linux/4.1.2/cc1 which weighs in at 5.1Meg Anybody know what this is used for? would either TCC or mcpp be up to the same task? This work