On 01/23/12 15:17, Martin Langhoff wrote:
> Without ffmpeg, what is a good test of current gnash? What is a
> reasonable expectation of what it can deliver?
I start with testing from source, ala "make check". The Gnash
testsuite requires many dependences, many of which are not available in
Fedo
On 10/20/11 03:59, Martin Langhoff wrote:
> That's really good news! Rob, we can ship you a few more B1 units, if
> that helps make bricking less of an issue :-)
I just put new rpms for the XO 1.75 in the Gnash repository at
getgnash.org, for anyone that wants to play with a pre-release snapsho
On 10/20/11 03:59, Martin Langhoff wrote:
> That's really good news! Rob, we can ship you a few more B1 units, if
> that helps make bricking less of an issue :-)
It was mostly a matter of finding the right combination of firmware,
OS, etc... I think some of the web pages are out of date... but
I fired up my B2 XO 1.5 unit yesterday, the power light came on, then
went off, and now it won't power up at all. The same power supply works
fine with a G1G1 unit. I was planning on using it for demos at SCALE 8x
next month, any ideas ? I've tried using other power supplies, even a
charged battery
Benjamin M. Schwartz wrote:
> OK... but "entirely via software" is Doing It Wrong. With XVideo accel,
> the XO-1 is perfectly capable of playing back YouTube videos at full
> speed. Observed performance is only awful because Gnash isn't using
> XVideo, so YUV->RGB and scaling are being done in s
Benjamin M. Schwartz wrote:
>
> The XO-1 has hardware-accelerated XVideo, including YUV->RGB and scaling.
> Are you talking about hardware acceleration for the internal stages of
> video decoding, a la XvMC? Tests on a 1.0 GHz C7-M (the processor in
> XO-1.5) indicate that software-only rendering
Samuel Klein wrote:
> Rob - Gnash tweaks would be welcome. Could you use an A-board when
> they're ready? They're expected out around the end of May:
> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Hardware_specification_1.5
It depends on how hot you are to see how Gnash performs on the newer
hardware. :-) I sho
For the brave at heart, I beat Gnash's internal rpm packaging into
shape, and managed to produce working rpms from Gnash trunk. These are a
bit bleeding edge, with both jemalloc and mit-shm enabled, so your
mileage may vary...
Rather than fighting with the version skew of Gstreamer, these instead
> For the record, I consider Dan to have spoken authoritatively on this
> matter. As he says, the best things that you can do now are to
> demonstrate that the newer gnash can safely be deployed either via 'yum
> update', via 'olpc-update', or by providing a custom installation script
Our releas
On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 04:13:22PM +0800, Carlos Nazareno wrote:
> We were having a discussion at the Gnash developer mailing list about
> the absurdity of the situation where it was so difficult to get sound
> working with Gnash on build 767 that the easy workaround to get sound
I have Gnash
C. Scott Ananian wrote:
> Talking with Rob Savoy at FISL, he mentioned that recently some
> speedups for Ogg encoding has been found that offered over an order of
> magnitude improvement. I can't tell if that's what's being discussed
> in the email above, or if these improvements are still in the
Edward Cherlin wrote:
> Rob, could you cut through the marketese and give us a breakdown of
> what this Adobe announcement really means for Gnash, if anything? It
> seems to say that developers can use the SWF spec to write players for
> the first time, not just content generators.
We're still f
Andres Salomon wrote:
> Adobe was clearly responding to Nicholas's cry for flash on the XO. ;)
I doubt that... although they are also dropping all licensing fees. As
far as the Gnash team can tell, while this does remove some of the legal
issues around flash, we're far past the point the relea
Edward Cherlin wrote:
> The video in XO Speak: Speech Synthesis for One Laptop Per Child,
> http://www.olpcnews.com/software/applications/xo_speak_speech_synthesis.html
> http://flash.revver.com/player/1.0/player.js?mediaId:761721;affiliateId:137131;backColor:#00;frontColor:#ff;gradColor:#0
Steve Holton wrote:
> Gnash will *never* be fully compatible with Flash because the closer
> Gnash gets to being a viable free Flash replacement, the more
> incentive there is for Adobe to change the Flash specification in a
> way to break compatibility.
They've already changed the format in a
Carol Lerche wrote:
Once again I get depressed about everyone's dependence on proprietary
formats, even for worthy causes. :-(
> specific case of Adobe flash, it would be excellent if someone friendly to
> the project could approach Adobe and ask that they allow the plugin to be
> packaged for
Charbax wrote:
> filmed myself, I can encode a version in Ogg Theora I think, though is there
> a way to automatically stream Ogg Theora in full screen on the olpc laptop?
The simplest way I know is to write a 5 line Flash program to load the
file from disk and play it. If you use Gnash, it'll
Edward Cherlin wrote:
> So where is Gnash? What can we look forward to in the next release?
The latest release was about 2 weeks ago. :-) We put snapshot builds
up on http://www.getgnash.org and we recently got buildbot up and
running, those builds currently go in http://www.gnashdev.org/buildb
Edward Cherlin wrote:
>> > * Gnash needs funding and developers. Let's do it. Rob Savoye says, as
>> > I understand it, that more codecs have been cracked but not coded for.
>> > Rob, can we get the list? Is there a roadmap for implementation? I
>> > d
Hal Murray wrote:
>> I will also talk about Adobe's recent release of the source code of
>> this VM to the open source community along with Mozilla's plan for
>> embedding this module into the Firefox web browser.
>
> Am I missing something?
Tamarin is a small fraction of the code needed to do
Wade Brainerd wrote:
> Anyway, I would love to see someone publish a secondary compiler
> package that was XO optimized to the repository, e.g. "yum install
> gcc-xo".
At http://wiki.gnashdev.org/wiki/index.php/Building_OLPC_Tools, you
can get a binary tarball of gcc 4.3, plus rpms for the XO o
Vasilis Liaskovitis wrote:
> 1) I haven't found a default gcc in my xo system - if there is one,
> where is it installed ?
"yum install gcc" works. You quickly run out of room for the
development packages you need, so it's easier to build on another Fedora
7 machine. You can also stick the depe
Yibo Lin wrote:
> I have tried to do this by myself with the instructions I can get from the
> web, but failed.
You can get the codec support by installing these packages from livna:
http://livna-dl.reloumirrors.net/fedora/7/i386/
gstreamer-ffmpeg-0.10.3-1.lvn7.1.i386.rpm
gstreamer-plugi
Yibo Lin wrote:
> The sound is perfect when I playing the flash file using Gnash (0.8.1) in
> the emulator on my laptop (Ubuntu with sugar-jhbuild). Just when using the
> Gnash (0.8.1) to playback the same flash file on the actual XO, the sound
> won't come up. Any suggestions? Thanks!
Flash f
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> no, it does not need to be thrashed out either in the press or in
> court. The aim is to avoid both. What you need to do is produce
> detailed claim charts, along with a set of non-infringement
> arguments. Once you have those then you can work out how to write your
> co
David Woodhouse wrote:
> Oooh. Gnash now supports RTMP?
We have a mostly complete RTMP implementation, but I've been primarily
using in in Cygnal, on the server side. The last few weeks I've
refactored our AMF low-level code, cracked both Shared Objects and Local
Connections, both of which
David Woodhouse wrote:
> Does Gnash not use gstreamer and hence work with the extra codec plugins
> which are already available in livna?
Yes, we support Gstreamer 0.10, ffmpeg or libmad directly. I haven't
had a chance to figure out why, but for whatever reason, the build of
Gnash for the X
Sebastien Adgnot wrote:
> However it seems quite difficult for us to encode our videos in
> Theora+Vorbis right now. I'm gonna talk to different people in the
> company to get their opinion and see what we can do.
Ffm peg does a fair job at codec conversion. We use our friends at
Lulu.tv to c
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> We really need a open project to do patent analysis of this kind and
> determine which of these key patents (not just codecs, but also other
> important blocking patents) can be avoided, and which ones are too
> tied to the format to avoid. Perhaps the OLPC project would
Jake Beard wrote:
> Hopefully, later this year we'll see a completely open Java, and then see
> Java on the XO.
> Flash is terrible. If it were possible, I'd prefer to see an all-Java
> solution.
Sorry, but java sucks rocks, and although I dislike flash, I think
it's a better solution for jus
Walter Bender wrote:
> Ben is right on target. Rather than going "off shore" to support proprietary
> codecs, we should be advocating the use of FOSS codecs.
That's our feeling for the Gnash project, supporting free codecs is
more important than supporting proprietary ones. We support the
pro
Benjamin M. Schwartz wrote:
> There might be some way to embed Theora in Flash in a way that Gnash can play,
> but this will never work in Adobe Flash. I strongly advise that, for OLPC,
> you
> avoid Flash altogether.
Gnash can already handle both Ogg and Theora as external files just
fine.
Walter Bender wrote:
> Unfortunately, when I tried to see Dailymotion's website
> http://www.dailymotion.com, the videos didn't work.
Sigh, I am getting so tired of this issue with codecs... Gnash for
the XO is built without support for any proprietary audio or video
codecs. Because of the p
Bert Freudenberg wrote:
> As a data point, Doom runs quite fast even at full resolution on a
> B4. Have not heard reports on getting Quake running. But I suspect
> that a software renderer hand-optimized towards the XO could be made
Doom and Quake use character graphics, and not GL, whic
Walter Bender wrote:
> There is no T-Mobile hotspot outside of lounges at Logan. They have
> granted a monopoly to a woefully inadequate provider.
A year ago I was using a B1 unit with T-mobile after my regular laptop
self-destructed on a work trip through Europe. (I already have a
T-mobile web
M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote:
>
> 1. Cross-develop on a more powerful platform, download the software to
> the XO, and test it.
Which is the easiest way. You can also develop natively on Fedora 7,
and just copy the executables over, as the XO is basically running
Fedora 7 anyway.
> 2. "Native"
Andres Salomon wrote:
> I believe the original reporter said that he *was* running the latest
> build/firmware, no?
I checked the builds on all three X0s at the conference where we were
having trouble, and all were running 406. There were 2 B4s and a B2.
Turning on the network on the X0s woul
Ricardo Carrano wrote:
> Up to the present moment, there is no other known scenario where a group of
> XOs could
> disturb a network. So, if you update the firmware and still get general
> problems in the
> network, we are really interested in repeating this.
Actually this sounds similar to
Bernardo Innocenti wrote:
> My build fails like this:
>
> ---cut---
> gcc -nostdlib -nostartfiles -r -o
> /home/bernie/src/pkgs/glibc/OLPC-2/glibc-20071017T2029/build-i586-linuxnptl/libc_pic.os
> \
> -Wl,-d -Wl,--whole-archive
> /home/bernie/src/pkgs/glibc/OLPC-2/glibc-20071017T2029/
Noah Kantrowitz wrote:
> We can always lock the mesh interface to a single channel, and keep the
> normal APs on the two others. Also turning down the Tx power will reduce
> interference with normal 802.11b/g. As an absolute fall-back, there is a
> snippet of commands on the wiki to disable the wir
Brian Carnes wrote:
> Excellent. I'll set myself up a F7 environment, and look into the
> compiler behavior and take a look at the compiler source rpms to see if it
> supports the limited SSE extensions and the two new Geode-only
> instructions.
I had dinner the other day with an old friend an
Bert Freudenberg wrote:
> On Nov 2, 2007, at 1:39 , Brian Carnes wrote:
> Short of rewriting, should simply recompiling with the better gcc
> work? That is, even if the system did not yet switch to the geode-
> specific libs, is it possible to recompile single apps with Rob's gcc
> 4.3 and ha
On Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 03:33:22PM -0700, Brian Carnes wrote:
> What aspects of this issue/request for help are still open? I'll go take
> a look at the OLPC build system tonight to see what is being used (late
> versions of GCC do have some Geode -mtune/-march modes), but would love to
> be hook
Samuel Klein wrote:
> thanks, rob. what's up with your board?SJ
Got me... The red LED is all that seems to power up... this is with
one of the AMD Geode eval boards pretending to be a B3. I'm going
through and reconnecting everything.
I also need to do some performance testing to see wha
I collected a bunch of resources about optimizing GCC and GLIBC for the
Geode, and stuck them on our project wiki:
http://wiki.gnashdev.org/wiki/index.php/Building_OLPC_Tools
Included are builds of glibc compiled for geode support, and optimized
versions of memcpy(), memcmp(), memset(), strcmp(),
Edward Cherlin wrote:
> As I understand it, the microkernel for the Marvell wireless chipset is the
> only remaining proprietary software on the Laptop, and although we want to
> get rid of it, nothing is happening. http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/46
There had been some discussion using eCOS to rep
Samuel Klein wrote:
> works well. I can imagine an escalating series of test cases that
> work through the basic functionalities in everything from flash 3 to
> flash 9 without video, using various popular features, and also
http://www.gnashdev.org/wiki/index.php/Testcases is mostly a series o
Samuel Klein wrote:
> You might want to make it clearer on that page which downloads are for
> what purpose; and the last two links aren't working for me.
Done. I added an explanation, removed the older snapshot, and added
links to two web pages we use for testing in the Gnash community.
Hopefu
Since ffmpeg isn't (and I assume never will be) included in the OLPC
builds, I built a binary tarball of Gnash with full audio and video
support for those of us that won't run the Adobe plugin. The Gnash build
for 406 has no video support enable for Flash codecs.
A few screenshots of this snapshot
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