Re: Activities updated in 802b4 - test request

2010-03-16 Thread milan zimmermann
On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 6:33 PM, Martin Langhoff
martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi all!

 I am uploading 802b4 to http://dev.laptop.org/~martin/8.2.2-betas/ --

I only see 802b3 there so far. Let me ask a question: I wm wondering
what is the difference between 8.2.2-betas and
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/F11_for_XO-1 - I do not mean so much in
terms of technology, but in terms of intended usage and target
audience. I found this thread
http://www.mail-archive.com/devel@lists.laptop.org/msg21474.html but
that does not really compare the two.

Thanks,
Milan
 the main purpose of this build is to test updated activities. I did an
 initial round of smoketesting, and activities fall in 3 buckets:

  - no update
  - updated, superficial testing didn't find problems
  - updated, found something...

 So my test request is: double check on those that I couldn't find any
 problems with, and help us get more info on the ones that seem buggy!

 Maybe I've been too good as a tester, and found corner case bugs...

 =No update=

 Anything not listed below ;-)

 = Updated, apparently good =

 Listed below -- version in 802-G1G1, new version.

 Calculate 25 - 30
 Distance 14 - 18
 Etoys -- 94 - 99
 Implode 5 - 9
 Memorize 33 - 34
 Moon 10 - 11
 Pippy 30 - 35
 TamTamEdit 50 - 52
 TamTamJam 51 - 53
 TamTamMini 49 - 52
 TamTamSynthLab 51 - 53
 Terminal 18 - 31
 Wikipedia 10 - 11 (Spanish)
 SocialCalc Activity 1 - 5
 Speak 9 - 14 -- works very nice but may be held back because the new
 toolbar is confusing (is there a version  9 that has the oldstyle
 toolbar?
 TurtleArt 10 - 82 (!!!)

 Chat is a special case. I kept it on v48, but would be good to know if
 there is a newer version that works well on 802b4. Mikus reports the
 latest doesn't work well, and that v60 works but has important UI
 changes.

 = Updated, may have bugs =

 These newer versions are claimed by ASLO's database to be compatible with 0.82

  - Colors 13 - 15 -- it mostly worked correctly. I found odd bugs in
 some cases in shared mode; the buddies joining would see the right
 paintstrokes but with the wrong thickness or color. Maybe the bug is
 there on v13 too, and this is not a regression...?

  - Log 16 - 18 -- fails to start, errors out on import gio.

  - Measure 24 - 29 -- Keep error

  - Paint 23 - 27 -- shared paint sessions fail to start on the buddy

  - Read 56 - 86 -- uses gconf, dies on 'import gconf'

  - Record 59 - 64 -- My test was heavy duty: go through each tab
 (picture, video, audio) and capture acouple of both, and then start
 the tab cycle again. OOMd twice, worked flawlessly once, needs more
 investigation. There is no denying that it OOMd or crashed, but it
 maystill be an improvement over v59

 cheers,


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Re: Activities updated in 802b4 - test request

2010-03-16 Thread milan zimmermann
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 9:13 AM, Martin Langhoff
martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 9:57 AM, milan zimmermann
 milan.zimmerm...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 6:33 PM, Martin Langhoff
 martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi all!

 I am uploading 802b4 to http://dev.laptop.org/~martin/8.2.2-betas/ --

 I only see 802b3 there so far.

 Ah, the transfer landed in the wrong directory -- moved now to the right 
 place.

 Let me ask a question: I wm wondering
 what is the difference between 8.2.2-betas and
 http://wiki.laptop.org/go/F11_for_XO-1 -

 Deployments need a new, updated build on XO-1. Deployments running old
 and trusty 8.2.1 have developed some fixes and patches that have
 proven their worth in the field. So roll them into a service pack,
 minor upgrade, low risk, stable.



 F11 on XO-1 is lots of fun, but not stable nor low-risk.

Thanks


 cheers,



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Re: Testing OS64 on XO1.5

2009-12-23 Thread milan zimmermann
On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 4:41 PM, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote:
 On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 01:20:37PM -0500, milan zimmermann wrote:
 1) After reboot, or after a brief period of inactivity, the system
 sometimes does not connect to network, [...]

 Deficiency of the B2 hardware, won't be fixed in B2, but will be (is)
 fixed in the next hardware revision.

ok, thanks


 2) In the Record activity, sound does not work - I tried to record
 some fairly loud speach, saved it on the bottom, but on replay of the
 saved clipping, a very (etremely) low sound - almost no sound,
 certainly not distinquishable at all. Speakers were unmute and on max.

 Thanks, I've reproduced this and raised a new ticket. #9375.
 http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/9920

thanks


 3) Record activity does not maximize the camera view to the whole
 screen (aftger hitting the maximize button)

 Known problem, ticket #9890.
 http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/9890

 4) In Etoys, sound does work reasonably loud, but is very jittery.

 Known problem, ticket #9375.
 http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/9375

Apparently Sayamindu Dasgupta provided a fix which Bert submitted:

http://tracker.squeakland.org/browse/SQ-638


 5) With power unplugged, leaving the XO1.5 untouched for 15 minutes
 (or so, did not measure exactly), all lights go off, only the power
 light flashes. This is OK, but no mouse or keyboard action , only
 holding the power button for about 2 seconds, brought the system back
 from sleep . Is this normal or expected? It does not seem right..

 Intentional.

 6) There is no shell activity. Is that an intention to hide the
 filesystem?

 Intentional, yes.  It is only hidden.

that was dumb of me I forgot not every activity is a favourite :)

Thanks everyone for answers.

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 http://quozl.linux.org.au/

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Brief testing of OS10 (F11 for XO-1)

2009-12-23 Thread milan zimmermann
Hi,

A few observations running  OS10 on XO1.0 with latest XO1 firmware:

1) After about 10 minutes (did not measure time exactly) , all input
from keyboard and keypad stops. Interestingly, mouse plugged into USB
still works. I assume this is because of the Power saving (first of
the 2 options) is on. But:

2) By default, Power saving first checkbox is on. But it does not
persist when set to off.

3) Interestingly, recording sound in Etoys works (freezes on OS43 and
higher on XO1.5, see https://dev.laptop.org/ticket/9724).

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Testing OS64 on XO1.5

2009-12-20 Thread milan zimmermann
I was testing latest os (OS64) on XO1.5 with latest firmware (Q3A25)
this weekend. There are some thing that I think may be bugs, but
before reporting it I'd like to see if others experienced similar
problems.

Everything below applies to Sugar on OS64 on  XO1.5 - I did not test gnome.

1) After reboot, or after a brief period of inactivity, the system
sometimes does not connect to network, or disconnects from the
network, and shows nothing on the network neigborhood screen (many
dots button), only the middle xo symbol, while there are many wireless
networks around  - this happened at least five times in 6 hours of
testing, either aftrer reboot or after a brief inactivity. No such
problem on the XO1.0 system tested in parallel. This seems the biggest
issue.

2) In the Record activity, sound does not work - I tried to record
some fairly loud speach, saved it on the bottom, but on replay of the
saved clipping, a very (etremely) low sound - almost no sound,
certainly not distinquishable at all. Speakers were unmute and on max.

3) Record activity does not maximize the camera view to the whole
screen (aftger hitting the maximize button)

4) In Etoys, sound does work reasonably loud, but is very jittery.

5) With power unplugged, leaving the XO1.5 untouched for 15 minutes
(or so, did not measure exactly), all lights go off, only the power
light flashes. This is OK, but no mouse or keyboard action , only
holding the power button for about 2 seconds, brought the system back
from sleep . Is this normal or expected? It does not seem right..

6) There is no shell activity. Is that an intention to hide the filesystem?

Milan
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Re: 8.2.2 Beta-1 test request

2009-12-07 Thread Milan Zimmermann

On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 12:44 PM, Paul Fox-2 [via OLPC]
ml-node+4127361-1315716...@n2.nabble.com wrote:
 milan wrote:
  
   On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 7:34 AM, Martin Langhoff
   [hidden email] wrote:
   
    With these changes, the touchpads should move a little bit slower,
    have a bit more precision, and be a lot less 'jumpy'. In fact, when
    they data gets jumpy, the driver ignores the data instead of jumping
    wildly.
   
    Is the kangaroo mode gone? Is it more usable now? Are other effects
    creeping in?
  
   I have ALPS touchpad.
  
   The mouse movement is perhaps a bit less jumpy then in old 802, but
   overall not very useable. There are times when it's ok (just slower
   then on the default 802 version), but there are times when it stops
   almost completely to respond to moving finger. Sometimes it has to be
   nudged 10 times to move the width or height of the screen. I cannot
   really tell why it is ok and why it starts behave like that. It comes
   and goes. Several times it moved slowly by itself. In a way it appears
   better when I do a continuos line draw (like when drawing spirals),
   but when using it in an application (does not seem to matter which
   app), and move the mouse quite a bit, it starts exhibit the no
   respond behavior.

 as with the old touchpad driver, the best thing to do when the
 touchpad is behaving badly is to remove your finger from it for a
 few seconds.  it will usually detect the condition, and
 recalibrate.  the tricky part is that if your finger is still on
 or very near the touchpad while the recalibration occurs, the
 problem probably won't get better, and may get worse.

 it's very frustrating that the laptops have such a crippled input
 device.  all we can do in the driver is try and notice when things
 go bad, and make teh best of it, but we can't _prevent_ them
 from going bad.

yes i understand the hardware device is, well, quite bad...


 thanks very much for your testing.

  
   
    Comparison test drawing spirals:
   
     - Grab 2 XOs with the same touchpad type, load the old stable 802 on
    one, and my test build (802B1) on the other. If you only have one XO,
    try one OS after the other...
   
     - Open Paint and draw spirals
   
       1) try to keep it reasonably tight
       2) stop if you collide or get sloppy
       3) count the number of cycles
       4) try again N times
       5) use the average cycles as a measure
  
   well, I only have one XO 1 and did not go back to old 802. With 802b1,
   I typically managed to do about 5 spiral cycles before it drew into
   the previous line. But after changing brush size I got a completely
   unpredictable behavior (non-responding or jumpy)
  
   I can also tell that the right part of the pad is much less sensitive
   (going up and down on the right does not move the mouse), this seems a
   hardware issue i wonder what others see.

 when you say right part of the pad, i assume your finger is still in
 the middle section, and not all the way into the right section.

yes, still in the middle section. the righmost 1/2cm of the middle
section basically does not respond at all. I assume this is hardware,
however, I will go back to old 802 and double check and report back if
it behaves differently. . I have not noticed it explicitly before, but
when I think about it, finger drawing large circles was always funny.

 the right
 and left sections will definitely not respond.  if your finger is just
 at the righthand edge of the middle section, then your touchpad may truly
 be faulty.  you can run a diagnostic:  hold the Check gamepad key while
 booting, and then hit ESC  to get an ok prompt.  then type test /mouse.

yes, thanks. I am pretty sure I ran test way in the past, and it was
OK, but will try again.

milan


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Re: 8.2.2 Beta-1 test request

2009-12-06 Thread milan zimmermann
Hi,

I did some testing yesterday and today. First I:
   - updated firmware to q2e41 (latest)
   - updated to 802 b1 from USB:
   - probe-usb copy-nand u:\xo1.0\os802b1.img

Testing notes and observations inline

On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 7:34 AM, Martin Langhoff
martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote:
 Note! We are also testing the XO-1.5 builds, and hoping to make a
 release Real Soon Now. If you have XO-1.5 hardware, help us test the
 1.5 builds. On the other hand, if you have XO-1s to test, I need help
 with...

 The build is '802B1' -- find it at:

    http://dev.laptop.org/~martin/8.2.2-betas/

 Filing bugs -- the bugs related to this release are tagged with
 milestone '8.2.2'. Please set that milestone in any new bug you file,
 or add your notes to the existing bugs:
 http://dev.laptop.org/query?status=assignedstatus=closedstatus=newstatus=reopenedorder=statuscol=idcol=summarycol=statuscol=typecol=prioritycol=componentmilestone=8.2.2

 What's new?

 =Touchpad=

 The build has a rebuilt kernel with new touchpad drivers, and some
 configuration tweaks. This is for both old 'ALPS' touchpads and new
 'Synaptics' touchpads. (Do mention which one you have!)

 With these changes, the touchpads should move a little bit slower,
 have a bit more precision, and be a lot less 'jumpy'. In fact, when
 they data gets jumpy, the driver ignores the data instead of jumping
 wildly.

 Is the kangaroo mode gone? Is it more usable now? Are other effects creeping 
 in?

I have ALPS touchpad.

The mouse movement is perhaps a bit less jumpy then in old 802, but
overall not very useable. There are times when it's ok (just slower
then on the default 802 version), but there are times when it stops
almost completely to respond to moving finger. Sometimes it has to be
nudged 10 times to move the width or height of the screen. I cannot
really tell why it is ok and why it starts behave like that. It comes
and goes. Several times it moved slowly by itself. In a way it appears
better when I do a continuos line draw (like when drawing spirals),
but when using it in an application (does not seem to matter which
app), and move the mouse quite a bit, it starts exhibit the no
respond behavior.


 Comparison test drawing spirals:

  - Grab 2 XOs with the same touchpad type, load the old stable 802 on
 one, and my test build (802B1) on the other. If you only have one XO,
 try one OS after the other...

  - Open Paint and draw spirals

    1) try to keep it reasonably tight
    2) stop if you collide or get sloppy
    3) count the number of cycles
    4) try again N times
    5) use the average cycles as a measure

well, I only have one XO 1 and did not go back to old 802. with 802b1,
I typically managed to do about 5 spiral cycles before it drew into
the previous line. But after changing brush size I got a completely
unpredictable behavior (non-responding or jumpy)


 Related
 http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/9775
 http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/9773


 = Kernel =

 The kernel rebuild may have caused other issues. Any problems with
 suspend/resume, wireless, freezes, I want to hear about them.

Tried:
closed lid


 = Wireless: Associating to Access Points and debugging =

 Fixed a bug where NetworkManager would -- in a % of connections -- not
 realise that the process had succeeded. Side by side, 802B1 should
 connect successfully to an AP more often.
 http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/8104

 And now if you `touch /etc/NetworkManager/log-supplicant` and restart.
 That same file is used as the logfile by wpa_supplicant.
 http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/9715

 = Startup / shutdown =

 Two bugs related to the shutdown process have been fixed. Rebooting
 side-by-side, you should see 802B1 shutdown much faster, and never
 hang in the switch to the ul-warning screen.

 If it ever hangs in the shutdown process, let me know...

 = Talk to the XS =

 Sugar now connects to gabble immediately after registration, no need
 for a reboot - If you have an XS handy (hint: get the XS-on-XO image
 on an SD card!), you can confirm this enhancement.
 http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/9726 -

 You can run 'olpc-connections' in a terminal to see it switch from one
 to the other right away.

 = OS version =

 The Sugar Control Panel should report the right version in 'About my
 XO'. And the 'Update' control panel must check for new activities by
 hitting a url ending in /8.2.2 (you might need a packet capture for
 that, or point it to a server you manage, just to see the 404s...).

 = Update your Activities? =

 The you must update your activities dialog on first boot is gone! It
 will only appear after a major upgrade (not a minor one).

 To test this, you can: install an older release (756 for example) and
 then use olpc-update --usb to upgrade to 802B1.

 = Do the activities work? =

 Try out the activities included. Did I break the OS so that any
 activities are failing?

 = Antitheft topics =

 There are several antitheft enhancements -- these are more involved to
 test. If anyone 

Fwd: 8.2.2 Beta-1 test request

2009-12-06 Thread milan zimmermann
(hit sent too soon)
Hi,

I did some XO1.0 testing with 802 B1 yesterday and today. First I:
  - updated firmware to q2e41 (latest)
  - updated to 802 b1 from USB:
      - probe-usb copy-nand u:\xo1.0\os802b1.img

Testing notes and observations inline

On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 7:34 AM, Martin Langhoff
martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote:
 Note! We are also testing the XO-1.5 builds, and hoping to make a
 release Real Soon Now. If you have XO-1.5 hardware, help us test the
 1.5 builds. On the other hand, if you have XO-1s to test, I need help
 with...

 The build is '802B1' -- find it at:

    http://dev.laptop.org/~martin/8.2.2-betas/

 Filing bugs -- the bugs related to this release are tagged with
 milestone '8.2.2'. Please set that milestone in any new bug you file,
 or add your notes to the existing bugs:
 http://dev.laptop.org/query?status=assignedstatus=closedstatus=newstatus=reopenedorder=statuscol=idcol=summarycol=statuscol=typecol=prioritycol=componentmilestone=8.2.2

 What's new?

 =Touchpad=

 The build has a rebuilt kernel with new touchpad drivers, and some
 configuration tweaks. This is for both old 'ALPS' touchpads and new
 'Synaptics' touchpads. (Do mention which one you have!)

 With these changes, the touchpads should move a little bit slower,
 have a bit more precision, and be a lot less 'jumpy'. In fact, when
 they data gets jumpy, the driver ignores the data instead of jumping
 wildly.

 Is the kangaroo mode gone? Is it more usable now? Are other effects creeping 
 in?

I have ALPS touchpad.

The mouse movement is perhaps a bit less jumpy then in old 802, but
overall not very useable. There are times when it's ok (just slower
then on the default 802 version), but there are times when it stops
almost completely to respond to moving finger. Sometimes it has to be
nudged 10 times to move the width or height of the screen. I cannot
really tell why it is ok and why it starts behave like that. It comes
and goes. Several times it moved slowly by itself. In a way it appears
better when I do a continuos line draw (like when drawing spirals),
but when using it in an application (does not seem to matter which
app), and move the mouse quite a bit, it starts exhibit the no
respond behavior.


 Comparison test drawing spirals:

  - Grab 2 XOs with the same touchpad type, load the old stable 802 on
 one, and my test build (802B1) on the other. If you only have one XO,
 try one OS after the other...

  - Open Paint and draw spirals

    1) try to keep it reasonably tight
    2) stop if you collide or get sloppy
    3) count the number of cycles
    4) try again N times
    5) use the average cycles as a measure

well, I only have one XO 1 and did not go back to old 802. With 802b1,
I typically managed to do about 5 spiral cycles before it drew into
the previous line. But after changing brush size I got a completely
unpredictable behavior (non-responding or jumpy)

I can also tell that the right part of the pad is much less sensitive
(going up and down on the right does not move the mouse), this seems a
hardware issue i wonder what others see.
Overall I think the old 802 cursor behaved a bit better, but I really
need to go back to it and try again. It is hard to compare without
having them side by side.



 Related
 http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/9775
 http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/9773


 = Kernel =

 The kernel rebuild may have caused other issues. Any problems with
 suspend/resume, wireless, freezes, I want to hear about them.

This seems to work with no problems:
Tried:

closed lid
10sec wait , several minute wait, about 15 minute wait
opened lid
moved mouse
activity came back.

closed lid several times in quick order
activity came back when opened and mouse moved.


 = Wireless: Associating to Access Points and debugging =

 Fixed a bug where NetworkManager would -- in a % of connections -- not
 realise that the process had succeeded. Side by side, 802B1 should
 connect successfully to an AP more often.
 http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/8104

 And now if you `touch /etc/NetworkManager/log-supplicant` and restart.
 That same file is used as the logfile by wpa_supplicant.
 http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/9715

 = Startup / shutdown =

 Two bugs related to the shutdown process have been fixed. Rebooting
 side-by-side, you should see 802B1 shutdown much faster, and never
 hang in the switch to the ul-warning screen.

 If it ever hangs in the shutdown process, let me know...

 = Talk to the XS =

 Sugar now connects to gabble immediately after registration, no need
 for a reboot - If you have an XS handy (hint: get the XS-on-XO image
 on an SD card!), you can confirm this enhancement.
 http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/9726 -

 You can run 'olpc-connections' in a terminal to see it switch from one
 to the other right away.

 = OS version =

 The Sugar Control Panel should report the right version in 'About my
 XO'. And the 'Update' control panel must check for new activities by
 hitting a url ending in /8.2.2 (you might 

Re: 8.2.2 Beta-1 test request

2009-12-06 Thread Milan Zimmermann

Hi,

I did some XO1.0 testing with 802 B1 yesterday and today. First I:
- Show quoted text -
 - updated firmware to q2e41 (latest)
 - updated to 802 b1 from USB:
 - probe-usb copy-nand u:\xo1.0\os802b1.img

Testing notes and observations inline

On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 7:34 AM, Martin Langhoff
martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote:
 Note! We are also testing the XO-1.5 builds, and hoping to make a
 release Real Soon Now. If you have XO-1.5 hardware, help us test the
 1.5 builds. On the other hand, if you have XO-1s to test, I need help
 with...

 The build is '802B1' -- find it at:

http://dev.laptop.org/~martin/8.2.2-betas/

 Filing bugs -- the bugs related to this release are tagged with
 milestone '8.2.2'. Please set that milestone in any new bug you file,
 or add your notes to the existing bugs:
 http://dev.laptop.org/query?status=assignedstatus=closedstatus=newstatus=reopenedorder=statuscol=idcol=summarycol=statuscol=typecol=prioritycol=componentmilestone=8.2.2

 What's new?

 =Touchpad=

 The build has a rebuilt kernel with new touchpad drivers, and some
 configuration tweaks. This is for both old 'ALPS' touchpads and new
 'Synaptics' touchpads. (Do mention which one you have!)

 With these changes, the touchpads should move a little bit slower,
 have a bit more precision, and be a lot less 'jumpy'. In fact, when
 they data gets jumpy, the driver ignores the data instead of jumping
 wildly.

 Is the kangaroo mode gone? Is it more usable now? Are other effects
 creeping in?

I have ALPS touchpad.

The mouse movement is perhaps a bit less jumpy then in old 802, but
overall not very useable. There are times when it's ok (just slower
then on the default 802 version), but there are times when it stops
almost completely to respond to moving finger. Sometimes it has to be
nudged 10 times to move the width or height of the screen. I cannot
really tell why it is ok and why it starts behave like that. It comes
and goes. Several times it moved slowly by itself. In a way it appears
better when I do a continuos line draw (like when drawing spirals),
but when using it in an application (does not seem to matter which
app), and move the mouse quite a bit, it starts exhibit the no
respond behavior.


 Comparison test drawing spirals:

  - Grab 2 XOs with the same touchpad type, load the old stable 802 on
 one, and my test build (802B1) on the other. If you only have one XO,
 try one OS after the other...

  - Open Paint and draw spirals

1) try to keep it reasonably tight
2) stop if you collide or get sloppy
3) count the number of cycles
4) try again N times
5) use the average cycles as a measure

well, I only have one XO 1 and did not go back to old 802. With 802b1,
I typically managed to do about 5 spiral cycles before it drew into
the previous line. But after changing brush size I got a completely
unpredictable behavior (non-responding or jumpy)

I can also tell that the right part of the pad is much less sensitive
(going up and down on the right does not move the mouse), this seems a
hardware issue i wonder what others see.
Overall I think the old 802 cursor behaved a bit better, but I really
need to go back to it and try again. It is hard to compare without
having them side by side.



 Related
 http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/9775
 http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/9773


 = Kernel =

 The kernel rebuild may have caused other issues. Any problems with
 suspend/resume, wireless, freezes, I want to hear about them.

This seems to work with no problems:
Tried:

closed lid
10sec wait , several minute wait, about 15 minute wait
opened lid
moved mouse
activity came back.

closed lid several times in quick order
activity came back when opened and mouse moved.
- Show quoted text -


 = Wireless: Associating to Access Points and debugging =

 Fixed a bug where NetworkManager would -- in a % of connections -- not
 realise that the process had succeeded. Side by side, 802B1 should
 connect successfully to an AP more often.
 http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/8104

 And now if you `touch /etc/NetworkManager/log-supplicant` and restart.
 That same file is used as the logfile by wpa_supplicant.
 http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/9715

 = Startup / shutdown =

 Two bugs related to the shutdown process have been fixed. Rebooting
 side-by-side, you should see 802B1 shutdown much faster, and never
 hang in the switch to the ul-warning screen.

 If it ever hangs in the shutdown process, let me know...

 = Talk to the XS =

 Sugar now connects to gabble immediately after registration, no need
 for a reboot - If you have an XS handy (hint: get the XS-on-XO image
 on an SD card!), you can confirm this enhancement.
 http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/9726 -

 You can run 'olpc-connections' in a terminal to see it switch from one
 to the other right away.

 = OS version =

 The Sugar Control Panel should report the right version in 'About my
 XO'. 

reports :
Build 802B1
Sugar 0.82.1
Firmware Q2E41

 And the 'Update' control panel must 

Fwd: 8.2.2 Beta-1 test request

2009-12-04 Thread milan zimmermann
(forwarded, sorry I replied to author not list)

Hi,

Is this a request to test on XO1 only? Assuming the instructions are
still here: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Clean-install_procedure

I have some questions inline about the things you are pointing out to test:

On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 7:34 AM, Martin Langhoff
martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote:
 Note! We are also testing the XO-1.5 builds, and hoping to make a
 release Real Soon Now. If you have XO-1.5 hardware, help us test the
 1.5 builds. On the other hand, if you have XO-1s to test, I need help
 with...

 The build is '802B1' -- find it at:

    http://dev.laptop.org/~martin/8.2.2-betas/

 Filing bugs -- the bugs related to this release are tagged with
 milestone '8.2.2'. Please set that milestone in any new bug you file,
 or add your notes to the existing bugs:
 http://dev.laptop.org/query?status=assignedstatus=closedstatus=newstatus=reopenedorder=statuscol=idcol=summarycol=statuscol=typecol=prioritycol=componentmilestone=8.2.2

 What's new?

 =Touchpad=

 The build has a rebuilt kernel with new touchpad drivers, and some
 configuration tweaks. This is for both old 'ALPS' touchpads and new
 'Synaptics' touchpads. (Do mention which one you have!)

How can I tell?


 With these changes, the touchpads should move a little bit slower,
 have a bit more precision, and be a lot less 'jumpy'. In fact, when
 they data gets jumpy, the driver ignores the data instead of jumping
 wildly.

 Is the kangaroo mode gone? Is it more usable now? Are other effects creeping 
 in?

What is Kangaroo mode - do you mean a jumpy cursor ?


 Comparison test drawing spirals:

  - Grab 2 XOs with the same touchpad type, load the old stable 802 on
 one,

ok

 and my test build (802B1) on the other. If you only have one XO,
 try one OS after the other...

  - Open Paint and draw spirals

    1) try to keep it reasonably tight
    2) stop if you collide or get sloppy
    3) count the number of cycles
    4) try again N times
    5) use the average cycles as a measure

 Related
 http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/9775
 http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/9773


 = Kernel =

 The kernel rebuild may have caused other issues. Any problems with
 suspend/resume, wireless, freezes, I want to hear about them.

 = Wireless: Associating to Access Points and debugging =

 Fixed a bug where NetworkManager would -- in a % of connections -- not
 realise that the process had succeeded. Side by side, 802B1 should
 connect successfully to an AP more often.
 http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/8104

 And now if you `touch /etc/NetworkManager/log-supplicant` and restart.
 That same file is used as the logfile by wpa_supplicant.
 http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/9715

 = Startup / shutdown =

 Two bugs related to the shutdown process have been fixed. Rebooting
 side-by-side, you should see 802B1 shutdown much faster, and never
 hang in the switch to the ul-warning screen.

 If it ever hangs in the shutdown process, let me know...

 = Talk to the XS =

 Sugar now connects to gabble immediately after registration, no need
 for a reboot - If you have an XS handy (hint: get the XS-on-XO image
 on an SD card!),

Is XS the school server?

 you can confirm this enhancement.
 http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/9726 -

 You can run 'olpc-connections' in a terminal to see it switch from one
 to the other right away.

 = OS version =

 The Sugar Control Panel should report the right version in 'About my
 XO'. And the 'Update' control panel must check for new activities by
 hitting a url ending in /8.2.2 (you might need a packet capture for
 that, or point it to a server you manage, just to see the 404s...).

 = Update your Activities? =

 The you must update your activities dialog on first boot is gone! It
 will only appear after a major upgrade (not a minor one).

 To test this, you can: install an older release (756 for example) and
 then use olpc-update --usb to upgrade to 802B1.

 = Do the activities work? =

 Try out the activities included. Did I break the OS so that any
 activities are failing?

Do you mean test activites after what was done in the above section
(=Update your Activites=), or simply test activities after clean
install of http://dev.laptop.org/~martin/8.2.2-betas/ ?

Thanks,



 = Antitheft topics =

 There are several antitheft enhancements -- these are more involved to
 test. If anyone is prepared to play with antitheft stuff, have a look
 at the 2 README files in olpc-bios-crypto and ping me.

 cheers,


 m
 --
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  mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect
  - ask interesting questions
  - don't get distracted with shiny stuff  - working code first
  - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff
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Re: 8.2.2 Beta-1 test request

2009-12-04 Thread milan zimmermann
Thanks for details. I will test it this weekend.

On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 12:03 PM, Martin Langhoff
martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 5:15 PM, milan zimmermann
 milan.zimmerm...@gmail.com wrote:
 Is this a request to test on XO1 only? Assuming the instructions are
 still here: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Clean-install_procedure

 Yes, only for XO-1. And yes, that's the right set of instructions -
 specifically 
 http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Clean-install_procedure#Development_builds

 On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 7:34 AM, Martin Langhoff
 =Touchpad=

 The build has a rebuilt kernel with new touchpad drivers, and some
 configuration tweaks. This is for both old 'ALPS' touchpads and new
 'Synaptics' touchpads. (Do mention which one you have!)

 How can I tell?

 - The ALPS touchpad extends almost all the width of the XO, and is
 divided in 3 sections by lines drawn on the touchpad. Only the middle
 section is active. Also - at boot time the laptop will report itself
 as CL1.

 - The Synaptics touchpad is about 2/3s of the width of the spacebar of
 the XO. It has roughly 4:3 proportions, similar to most touchpads on
 other laptops. At boot time, the laptop will report CL1A.

 With these changes, the touchpads should move a little bit slower,
 have a bit more precision, and be a lot less 'jumpy'. In fact, when
 they data gets jumpy, the driver ignores the data instead of jumping
 wildly.

 Is the kangaroo mode gone? Is it more usable now? Are other effects 
 creeping in?

 What is Kangaroo mode - do you mean a jumpy cursor ?

 Wildly jumpy cursor. Like a kangaroo.

 Is XS the school server?

 Yes -


 = Do the activities work? =

 Try out the activities included. Did I break the OS so that any
 activities are failing?

 Do you mean test activites after what was done in the above section
 (=Update your Activites=), or simply test activities after clean
 install of http://dev.laptop.org/~martin/8.2.2-betas/ ?

 Right after the clean install.  If you update activities, and that
 grabs newer versions, it'll be interesting to hear whether they work
 well (and what versions you've tested).

 cheers,


 m
 --
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  mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect
  - ask interesting questions
  - don't get distracted with shiny stuff  - working code first
  - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff

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