Re: 8.2.1 activity launch failure not recorded

2009-02-24 Thread Daniel Drake
2009/2/23 Mikus Grinbergs mi...@bga.com:
 I had the RoadMap Activity installed on my 800 system.  I just
 updated (via manual 'sugar-install-bundle') to the latest version.
 Now it does not launch.

 The fault is likely to be mine - I either goofed the manual
 install, or should not have applied the latest-and-greatest to
 8.2.1.  Nevertheless, I expect that when an Activity fails to
 launch, there would be some sort of log made to help the user find
 out what went wrong.  As far as I can tell, __NOTHING__ whatsoever
 got recorded about the launch failure.

Sounds like you've found a bug, there should always be something
logged. Perhaps you could file a ticket with olpc-log output attached?

Thanks,
Daniel
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Re: 8.2.1 activity launch failure not recorded

2009-02-24 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
 Sounds like you've found a bug, there should always be something
 logged. Perhaps you could file a ticket with olpc-log output attached?

There are two perfectly good existing tickets (#8861, #8834).  My 
point was that this problem can still show up in 8.2.1.

[Attached some log output to #8834.]   mikus

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Re: 8.2.1 activity launch failure not recorded

2009-02-24 Thread Daniel Drake
2009/2/24 Mikus Grinbergs mi...@bga.com:
 Sounds like you've found a bug, there should always be something
 logged. Perhaps you could file a ticket with olpc-log output attached?

 There are two perfectly good existing tickets (#8861, #8834).  My
 point was that this problem can still show up in 8.2.1.

OK, thanks! In future, it's helpful to have such information in the
first mail (not a regression, seen it before, here are the trac ids).

Daniel
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8.2.1 activity launch failure not recorded

2009-02-23 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
I had the RoadMap Activity installed on my 800 system.  I just 
updated (via manual 'sugar-install-bundle') to the latest version. 
Now it does not launch.

The fault is likely to be mine - I either goofed the manual 
install, or should not have applied the latest-and-greatest to 
8.2.1.  Nevertheless, I expect that when an Activity fails to 
launch, there would be some sort of log made to help the user find 
out what went wrong.  As far as I can tell, __NOTHING__ whatsoever 
got recorded about the launch failure.

mikus

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Re: 8.2.1 activity launch failure not recorded

2009-02-23 Thread Gary C Martin
On 23 Feb 2009, at 22:27, Mikus Grinbergs wrote:

 I had the RoadMap Activity installed on my 800 system.  I just
 updated (via manual 'sugar-install-bundle') to the latest version.
 Now it does not launch.

 The fault is likely to be mine - I either goofed the manual
 install, or should not have applied the latest-and-greatest to
 8.2.1.  Nevertheless, I expect that when an Activity fails to
 launch, there would be some sort of log made to help the user find
 out what went wrong.  As far as I can tell, __NOTHING__ whatsoever
 got recorded about the launch failure.

Yes Mikus, you've noted the long and much HATED quick and dirty code  
hack that makes the launching animation almost purely time dependant.  
It closes after N seconds, or if it gets a message to say the activity  
actually launched. There are even some activities that launch faster  
than the pulsing launcher can get it's knickers untwisted, leaving you  
looking at a pulsing icon for the full N seconds even through the  
activity is already running in the background! To be frank it's a  
pretty shocking code quality indictment, but I'm sure there must be  
some really unpleasant implementation issues in getting this right.

The activity logs (for me) usually show the failure pretty instantly,  
so I can switch away from the throbbing icon and back to vim to fix my  
code (usually some careless typo) and re-launch pretty quick – but  
still annoying.

--Gary

 mikus

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