Re: Why not use swfdec-mozilla? (was Re: Installing Flash on the OLPC)

2009-01-03 Thread Nirbheek Chauhan
On Thu, Jan 1, 2009 at 9:14 PM, Brian Pepple bpep...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
 Quick clarification.  We discussed making swfdec installed by default
 during the development of Fedora 9, but decided against doing so since
 we felt it wasn't quite ready for that.


Ah, thanks for the clarification, I don't run Fedora so I wouldn't know :)

 I'm not sure if it was considered, but as the maintainer of swfdec in
 Fedora I can state that swfdec is very cpu-intensive, and I have my
 doubts whether the performance on the XO would be comparable to gnash's,
 though it might be worth investigating.

That has been my experience too, but I always thought that the
CPU-intensive stuff was only for complex Flash-9 things, and because
my ATI open source drivers sucked ;p

I guess I should compare gnash/swfdec/adobe flash performance-wise too.

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Re: Why not use swfdec-mozilla? (was Re: Installing Flash on the OLPC)

2009-01-03 Thread Peter Robinson
 I'm not sure if it was considered, but as the maintainer of swfdec in
 Fedora I can state that swfdec is very cpu-intensive, and I have my
 doubts whether the performance on the XO would be comparable to gnash's,
 though it might be worth investigating.

 That has been my experience too, but I always thought that the
 CPU-intensive stuff was only for complex Flash-9 things, and because
 my ATI open source drivers sucked ;p

I don't believe its a video driver issue as I've seen it on both
nvidia and intel using the default open source drivers included in
Fedora.

Peter
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Why not use swfdec-mozilla? (was Re: Installing Flash on the OLPC)

2009-01-01 Thread Nirbheek Chauhan
Hello everyone,
(top-posting due to tangent nature of discussion)

Just a thought here, in my experience, swfdec[1] works far better than
gnash for flash websites; why not use that? There's a Firefox/Gecko
plugin called swfdec-mozilla which works beautifully.

swfdec{,-mozilla} use gstreamer, are LGPLed, and support most of the
Flash 9 features whereas gnash supports only a few of the Flash 9
features. swfdec is also the default Flash player on Fedora, and is
the preferred flash player on Ubuntu.

Were there some specific problems with using swfdec? Or was it not
under consideration due to some factors?

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Re: Why not use swfdec-mozilla? (was Re: Installing Flash on the OLPC)

2009-01-01 Thread Brian Pepple
On Thu, 2009-01-01 at 14:16 +0530, Nirbheek Chauhan wrote:
 swfdec{,-mozilla} use gstreamer, are LGPLed, and support most of the
 Flash 9 features whereas gnash supports only a few of the Flash 9
 features. swfdec is also the default Flash player on Fedora, and is
 the preferred flash player on Ubuntu.

Quick clarification.  We discussed making swfdec installed by default
during the development of Fedora 9, but decided against doing so since
we felt it wasn't quite ready for that.

 Were there some specific problems with using swfdec? Or was it not
 under consideration due to some factors?

I'm not sure if it was considered, but as the maintainer of swfdec in
Fedora I can state that swfdec is very cpu-intensive, and I have my
doubts whether the performance on the XO would be comparable to gnash's,
though it might be worth investigating.

Later,
/B
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Re: Why not use swfdec-mozilla? (was Re: Installing Flash on the OLPC)

2009-01-01 Thread Peter Robinson
 swfdec{,-mozilla} use gstreamer, are LGPLed, and support most of the
 Flash 9 features whereas gnash supports only a few of the Flash 9
 features. swfdec is also the default Flash player on Fedora, and is
 the preferred flash player on Ubuntu.

 Quick clarification.  We discussed making swfdec installed by default
 during the development of Fedora 9, but decided against doing so since
 we felt it wasn't quite ready for that.

 Were there some specific problems with using swfdec? Or was it not
 under consideration due to some factors?

 I'm not sure if it was considered, but as the maintainer of swfdec in
 Fedora I can state that swfdec is very cpu-intensive, and I have my
 doubts whether the performance on the XO would be comparable to gnash's,
 though it might be worth investigating.

I've found it very cpu intensive on Fedora 9 and 10 with a penryn dual
core processor. It basically pins one of the cores to 100% CPU but if
I download the video by saving it from the properties box within the
plugin I don't see that issue using the swfdec-gnome player so there's
probably some low hanging fruit within the actual plugin that might be
able to improve the problem easily for someone that knows where to
look.

Peter
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