Re: [sugar] [IAEP] Tentative talk schedule: Nov 19
I hope for a chance to see a server in action, and it would be tops if I could see a server being set up from scratch. That might even justify I take a box with me... In a Montessori way, I learn best when things happen as I do them. Yama Martin Langhoff wrote: On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 9:07 PM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... lots of interesting things... I'm very happy that the Sugar folks are in town -- under whatever alibi -- and I'm keen on meeting, having a beer together and perhaps talking a few technical things too ;-) After all, we've been collaborating for almost a year now, and I don't know your faces. There are a few things I'm interested in talking about so I'll try to use my slot (and the many beer rounds) for that. The xocamp later will be another chance to talk about them more formally, but perhaps we can have a quick overview of - Repeated automagic registration - so updated registration data (with perhaps more bits of data) reaches the XS. - Manually triggered actions from the control panel - re-registration, ds-backup - Browse.xo automagic authentication against XS. Also - automagic proxy config with PAC files, etc. - Service announcement (plain old DNS, mdns, avahi, carrier pigeons) - so activity and OS updates work better - How I learned to stop worrying and love ejabberd's mod_roster facilities (group handling between XS and XO) As you can see, it's fairly concrete stuff. There are a couple of blue-sky areas you can probably drag me into - - extended journal using the backup storage from the XS. - General Journal / Project diary magic UI voodoo. Now, if we can talk about at least some of these things in a parenthesis -- avoiding all the distractions -- let's do it. Otherwise, I'm happy to just have a beer with you. Let's make the most of what we have. And apologies for not sending this earlier -- cheers, m ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [sugar] [IAEP] Tentative talk schedule: Nov 19
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 11:29 PM, Yamandu Ploskonka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hope for a chance to see a server in action, and it would be tops if I could see a server being set up from scratch. That might even justify I take a box with me... In a Montessori way, I learn best when things happen as I do them. Cool -- no prob to do an install demo, we can use hw from 1cc for that. cheers. m -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [IAEP] Tentative talk schedule: Nov 19
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 3:10 AM, Martin Langhoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now, if we can talk about at least some of these things in a parenthesis -- avoiding all the distractions -- let's do it. Otherwise, I'm happy to just have a beer with you. Let's make the most of what we have. Looking forward for it! We can use your slot and also the free hacking times on the schedule. But well, if you want to grab Tomeu attention, I'm sure beers would be the most effective! Marco ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [IAEP] Tentative talk schedule: Nov 19
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 08:49, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 9:50 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 3:07 AM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does this schedule seem reasonable to others? (Esp. those I've pencilled in for talks?) If you are going to be in town, made a 9.1 proposal (or forgot to), and aren't listed above, let me know. There is a lot of interest about a talk on collaboration, Brendan offered to lead at least part of it. Perhaps we could make it a 2 hours slot on the other days, similar to Walter/Christian. Sorry, I'd originally left that out because we didn't have someone to lead it; I was a bit behind on my mail and didn't see Brendan's proposal/offer. Also, it seems like Yamandu will be attending; I'd missed his proposal in my original schedule as well. My current vague thinking is to group the less-technical learning-and-content-oriented talks (Yamandu's, OLE's presentation, and Chris/Michael's Uruguay report) on another day (Tuesday? Thursday? I'll have to sit down with Bernie again), and to add Yamandu-on-i18n to the i18n hour on Wed, if he'd like to make a 10-15min presentation. I think I can squeeze in 30 mins for collaboration on Wed if Brendan wants to make a formal proposal; if we all just want to sit down and brainstorm collaboration, then a 2 hour block on not-Wednesday sounds perfect. I was really hoping to get Morgs or Collabora to give a 'state of collaboration' talk to set the stage. Hopefully we can get that in January's meeting. Seeing as there will be some discussion anyway, I'll try to write up something to explain the current state of things and what we were hoping to achieve next. If there's a possibility of me participating by phone, and a slot before 3pm, I'd certainly like to join the discussion. My intention is more to set realistic expectations than plan future work, as our resources are rather constrained, and people who would need to be part of actual planning won't be there. Regards Morgan ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [IAEP] Tentative talk schedule: Nov 19
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 9:07 PM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... lots of interesting things... I'm very happy that the Sugar folks are in town -- under whatever alibi -- and I'm keen on meeting, having a beer together and perhaps talking a few technical things too ;-) After all, we've been collaborating for almost a year now, and I don't know your faces. There are a few things I'm interested in talking about so I'll try to use my slot (and the many beer rounds) for that. The xocamp later will be another chance to talk about them more formally, but perhaps we can have a quick overview of - Repeated automagic registration - so updated registration data (with perhaps more bits of data) reaches the XS. - Manually triggered actions from the control panel - re-registration, ds-backup - Browse.xo automagic authentication against XS. Also - automagic proxy config with PAC files, etc. - Service announcement (plain old DNS, mdns, avahi, carrier pigeons) - so activity and OS updates work better - How I learned to stop worrying and love ejabberd's mod_roster facilities (group handling between XS and XO) As you can see, it's fairly concrete stuff. There are a couple of blue-sky areas you can probably drag me into - - extended journal using the backup storage from the XS. - General Journal / Project diary magic UI voodoo. Now, if we can talk about at least some of these things in a parenthesis -- avoiding all the distractions -- let's do it. Otherwise, I'm happy to just have a beer with you. Let's make the most of what we have. And apologies for not sending this earlier -- cheers, m -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [IAEP] Tentative talk schedule: Nov 19
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 3:07 AM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 4pm: Internationalization (Marco, C. Scott, possibly Saymindu by phone and/or cjb on language learning) I'm not giving talks about i18n :) Marco ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [IAEP] Tentative talk schedule: Nov 19
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 9:29 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 3:07 AM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 4pm: Internationalization (Marco, C. Scott, possibly Saymindu by phone and/or cjb on language learning) I'm not giving talks about i18n :) By golly, you're right. Well, that gives me a little slack in the schedule perhaps to use to fix whatever else I've got wrong. ;-) --scott -- ( http://cscott.net/ ) ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [IAEP] Tentative talk schedule: Nov 19
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 3:07 AM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does this schedule seem reasonable to others? (Esp. those I've pencilled in for talks?) If you are going to be in town, made a 9.1 proposal (or forgot to), and aren't listed above, let me know. There is a lot of interest about a talk on collaboration, Brendan offered to lead at least part of it. Perhaps we could make it a 2 hours slot on the other days, similar to Walter/Christian. Marco ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [IAEP] Tentative talk schedule: Nov 19
I hope there are gobby sessions for all events, and that they are more brainstorming and writing than presentation and recording video. SJ On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 9:50 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 3:07 AM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does this schedule seem reasonable to others? (Esp. those I've pencilled in for talks?) If you are going to be in town, made a 9.1 proposal (or forgot to), and aren't listed above, let me know. There is a lot of interest about a talk on collaboration, Brendan offered to lead at least part of it. Perhaps we could make it a 2 hours slot on the other days, similar to Walter/Christian. Marco ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [IAEP] Tentative talk schedule: Nov 19
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 12:03 AM, Samuel Klein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hope there are gobby sessions for all events, and that they are more brainstorming and writing than presentation and recording video. No. Wednesday talks are well-structured, compressed data, idea, open question and prototype dumps. Brainstorming is scheduled for Monday, Tuesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. --scott -- ( http://cscott.net/ ) ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [IAEP] Tentative talk schedule: Nov 19
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 9:50 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 3:07 AM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does this schedule seem reasonable to others? (Esp. those I've pencilled in for talks?) If you are going to be in town, made a 9.1 proposal (or forgot to), and aren't listed above, let me know. There is a lot of interest about a talk on collaboration, Brendan offered to lead at least part of it. Perhaps we could make it a 2 hours slot on the other days, similar to Walter/Christian. Sorry, I'd originally left that out because we didn't have someone to lead it; I was a bit behind on my mail and didn't see Brendan's proposal/offer. Also, it seems like Yamandu will be attending; I'd missed his proposal in my original schedule as well. My current vague thinking is to group the less-technical learning-and-content-oriented talks (Yamandu's, OLE's presentation, and Chris/Michael's Uruguay report) on another day (Tuesday? Thursday? I'll have to sit down with Bernie again), and to add Yamandu-on-i18n to the i18n hour on Wed, if he'd like to make a 10-15min presentation. I think I can squeeze in 30 mins for collaboration on Wed if Brendan wants to make a formal proposal; if we all just want to sit down and brainstorm collaboration, then a 2 hour block on not-Wednesday sounds perfect. I was really hoping to get Morgs or Collabora to give a 'state of collaboration' talk to set the stage. Hopefully we can get that in January's meeting. Keep the comments coming -- it seems that no one is completely appalled by the idea of cramming all the technical talks into one day? If this level of non-dissent continues, Bernie and I will pencil in Wed as 'technical talk day' on the wiki, and folks can start adding details for their talks, trading talk slots, etc. --scott -- ( http://cscott.net/ ) ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [IAEP] Tentative talk schedule: Nov 19
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 1:39 AM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 12:03 AM, Samuel Klein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hope there are gobby sessions for all events, and that they are more brainstorming and writing than presentation and recording video. No. Wednesday talks are well-structured, compressed data, idea, open question and prototype dumps. Ok. I hope there are gobby sessions for all events, well-structured compressed data events as well as for brainstorming. Brainstorming is scheduled for Monday, Tuesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. Lovely. SJ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [sugar] [IAEP] Tentative talk schedule: Nov 19
Not sure if (a) I understand how Bernie's schedule (Talk:Sugarcamp) works; but (b) Friday morning at 9am is the only time that works for Evangelina, who is able to jooin us for the Portfolio discussion. I don't think we'll need more than 90 minutes, so perhaps Christian could take the latter half of the morning for UI/design. Scott, it'd be great if you could join us. -walter -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [sugar] [IAEP] Tentative talk schedule: Nov 19
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 2:23 AM, Walter Bender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not sure if (a) I understand how Bernie's schedule (Talk:Sugarcamp) works; but (b) Friday morning at 9am is the only time that works for Evangelina, who is able to jooin us for the Portfolio discussion. I don't think we'll need more than 90 minutes, so perhaps Christian could take the latter half of the morning for UI/design. Scott, it'd be great if you could join us. Yup, I think that matches what Bernie and I had pencilled in. We'll finish fleshing out the rest of the week's schedule tomorrow. Unless the photons in our network pipe go on strike, www.laptop.org catches fire, or Barack Obama pays a visit to 1cc, I'll be there. --scott -- ( http://cscott.net/ ) ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
