Re: [OLPC-AU] Auckland Testing Summary 29 September 2012

[Tom Parker]

On 07/10/12 07:27, Walter Bender wrote:


Somehow we managed to download a new webkit browse.xo and install it on
one laptop. This version of browse didn’t work at all. We got this version
by downloading on an x86 laptop from a page with a big list of versions
(sorry, we don’t know exactly where). Shouldn’t the XO refuse to install
something that won’t actually work with it?



The new webkit based browse.xo is sugar 0.96 or greater, presently there is
no way to stop users from shooting themselves in the foot by installing a
bundle that is not supported on their version of sugar.


Hmm. I thought activities.sugarlabs.org was a bit smarter than that.
That said, the bundle could have come from elsewhere.


It is. In this case the incompatible browse was retrieved with another 
non-olpc laptop and transferred via USB stick. It was done this way 
because apparently the XO couldn't download anything (sorry don't have 
any more details).


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Re: [OLPC-AU] Auckland Testing Summary 29 September 2012

[Tom Parker]

On 08/10/12 18:33, Deepak Muddha wrote:


Edit starts with the focus somewhere invisible, you have to click on
the canvas before it does anything.


Can you explain in a detail for the above defect please.


Start Edit.
Type something.
Observe that nothing appears on the screen.
Click on the white main editing area.
Type something.
Observe that what you typed appears on the screen.


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Re: [OLPC New Zealand] [OLPC-AU] Auckland Testing Summary 29 September 2012

[Sridhar Dhanapalan]

On 8 October 2012 16:56, Jerry Vonau  wrote:
>
>
> On 6 October 2012 13:27, Walter Bender  wrote:
>>
>> Hmm. I thought activities.sugarlabs.org was a bit smarter than that.
>> That said, the bundle could have come from elsewhere.
>>
>
> Well it is if you use browse to view activities.sugarlabs.org, but I suspect
> the activity was downloaded to a usbkey on a different machine then auto
> installed by launching it from the usbkey. Think the real fix might run deep
> into sugar's inner workings, some discussion at
> http://sugardextrose.org/issues/1532

This is one of our greatest sources of technical support troubles.
People install incompatible bundles, sometimes over an existing
working one. If the activity is protected (which we do for our core
set), it can't be removed or downgraded easily.

IMHO the system should tell the user if the bundle they're installing
is not compatible with the OS/Sugar version they have installed.

Sridhar


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Re: [OLPC-AU] Auckland Testing Summary 29 September 2012

[Deepak Muddha]

Issues/tickets raised for all the mentioned bugs/enhancements.

On 6 October 2012 10:17, Tom Parker  wrote:

> Auckland Testing Summary 29 September 2012
> Who: John, Oliver, Tabitha, Tom
> Testing build 44 11.3.1-au
>
> XO-1.75:
> Browse 192.3!! Rocking like it’s January 2010!
> Based on Firefox 3.6.23, 5 security releases made since!
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Firefox_3.6#cite_note-41
> Crashes if you visit large image, previously reported as olpc #11569
>

https://sugardextrose.org/issues/2414#change-30101

> Google docs complains browser is out of date.
>

https://sugardextrose.org/issues/2415

> Can create google docs unlike latest Browse
>


> Can open links in new tabs unlike latest Browse
> It’s quite slow, get slow script warning on wikipedia!
> Somehow we managed to download a new webkit browse.xo and install it on
> one laptop. This version of browse didn’t work at all. We got this version
> by downloading on an x86 laptop from a page with a big list of versions
> (sorry, we don’t know exactly where). Shouldn’t the XO refuse to install
> something that won’t actually work with it?
>
> Record locked up when I recorded video on Hoiho. Force quit worked, but
> camera light stays on and record just has a grey preview when you restart
> it. This only happened once.
>

https://sugardextrose.org/issues/2409

> Record doesn’t work on high quality see olpc #11668.
>

https://sugardextrose.org/issues/2410

>
> On Moa usb drives don’t show up on the frame or get auto mounted. The
> drive shows up in /var/log/messages and /proc/partitions. After a reboot
> this worked ok. I think we saw this back in the day.
>

https://sugardextrose.org/issues/2411

>
> Distance doesn’t work at all, see olpc #11596. This activity should be
> removed if it can’t be fixed.
>

https://sugardextrose.org/issues/2412

>
> Edit starts with the focus somewhere invisible, you have to click on the
> canvas before it does anything.
>

https://sugardextrose.org/issues/2413

>
> XO-1.5 Ivy
> maze works
> ruler works
> speak works
> paint works
> memorize works
> crazy touchpad/pointer?
> write
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Re: [OLPC-AU] Auckland Testing Summary 29 September 2012

[Jerry Vonau]

On 6 October 2012 13:27, Walter Bender  wrote:

> On Sat, Oct 6, 2012 at 1:10 PM, Jerry Vonau  wrote:
> > Thanks for testing.
> >
> > On 5 October 2012 23:47, Tom Parker  wrote:
> >>
> >> Auckland Testing Summary 29 September 2012
> >> Who: John, Oliver, Tabitha, Tom
> >> Testing build 44 11.3.1-au
> >>
> >> XO-1.75:
> >> Browse 192.3!! Rocking like it’s January 2010!
> >> Based on Firefox 3.6.23, 5 security releases made since!
> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firefox_3.6#cite_note-41
> >> Crashes if you visit large image, previously reported as olpc #11569
> >> Google docs complains browser is out of date.
> >> Can create google docs unlike latest Browse
> >> Can open links in new tabs unlike latest Browse
> >> It’s quite slow, get slow script warning on wikipedia!
> >
> >
> > noted
> >
> >>
> >> Somehow we managed to download a new webkit browse.xo and install it on
> >> one laptop. This version of browse didn’t work at all. We got this
> version
> >> by downloading on an x86 laptop from a page with a big list of versions
> >> (sorry, we don’t know exactly where). Shouldn’t the XO refuse to install
> >> something that won’t actually work with it?
> >>
> >
> > The new webkit based browse.xo is sugar 0.96 or greater, presently there
> is
> > no way to stop users from shooting themselves in the foot by installing a
> > bundle that is not supported on their version of sugar.
>
> Hmm. I thought activities.sugarlabs.org was a bit smarter than that.
> That said, the bundle could have come from elsewhere.
>
>
Well it is if you use browse to view activities.sugarlabs.org, but I
suspect the activity was downloaded to a usbkey on a different machine then
auto installed by launching it from the usbkey. Think the real fix might
run deep into sugar's inner workings, some discussion at
http://sugardextrose.org/issues/1532

Jerry
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Re: [OLPC-AU] Auckland Testing Summary 29 September 2012

[Deepak Muddha]

On 6 October 2012 10:17, Tom Parker  wrote:

> Auckland Testing Summary 29 September 2012
> Who: John, Oliver, Tabitha, Tom
> Testing build 44 11.3.1-au
>
> XO-1.75:
> Browse 192.3!! Rocking like it’s January 2010!
> Based on Firefox 3.6.23, 5 security releases made since!
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Firefox_3.6#cite_note-41
> Crashes if you visit large image, previously reported as olpc #11569
> Google docs complains browser is out of date.
> Can create google docs unlike latest Browse
> Can open links in new tabs unlike latest Browse
> It’s quite slow, get slow script warning on wikipedia!
> Somehow we managed to download a new webkit browse.xo and install it on
> one laptop. This version of browse didn’t work at all. We got this version
> by downloading on an x86 laptop from a page with a big list of versions
> (sorry, we don’t know exactly where). Shouldn’t the XO refuse to install
> something that won’t actually work with it?
>
> Record locked up when I recorded video on Hoiho. Force quit worked, but
> camera light stays on and record just has a grey preview when you restart
> it. This only happened once.
> Record doesn’t work on high quality see olpc #11668.
>
> On Moa usb drives don’t show up on the frame or get auto mounted. The
> drive shows up in /var/log/messages and /proc/partitions. After a reboot
> this worked ok. I think we saw this back in the day.
>
> Distance doesn’t work at all, see olpc #11596. This activity should be
> removed if it can’t be fixed.
>
> Edit starts with the focus somewhere invisible, you have to click on the
> canvas before it does anything.
>

Can you explain in a detail for the above defect please.

>
> XO-1.5 Ivy
> maze works
> ruler works
> speak works
> paint works
> memorize works
> crazy touchpad/pointer?
> write
> __**_
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> olpc...@lists.laptop.org
> http://lists.laptop.org/**listinfo/olpc-au
>



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Re: [OLPC-AU] Auckland Testing Summary 29 September 2012

[Walter Bender]

On Sat, Oct 6, 2012 at 1:10 PM, Jerry Vonau  wrote:
> Thanks for testing.
>
> On 5 October 2012 23:47, Tom Parker  wrote:
>>
>> Auckland Testing Summary 29 September 2012
>> Who: John, Oliver, Tabitha, Tom
>> Testing build 44 11.3.1-au
>>
>> XO-1.75:
>> Browse 192.3!! Rocking like it’s January 2010!
>> Based on Firefox 3.6.23, 5 security releases made since!
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firefox_3.6#cite_note-41
>> Crashes if you visit large image, previously reported as olpc #11569
>> Google docs complains browser is out of date.
>> Can create google docs unlike latest Browse
>> Can open links in new tabs unlike latest Browse
>> It’s quite slow, get slow script warning on wikipedia!
>
>
> noted
>
>>
>> Somehow we managed to download a new webkit browse.xo and install it on
>> one laptop. This version of browse didn’t work at all. We got this version
>> by downloading on an x86 laptop from a page with a big list of versions
>> (sorry, we don’t know exactly where). Shouldn’t the XO refuse to install
>> something that won’t actually work with it?
>>
>
> The new webkit based browse.xo is sugar 0.96 or greater, presently there is
> no way to stop users from shooting themselves in the foot by installing a
> bundle that is not supported on their version of sugar.

Hmm. I thought activities.sugarlabs.org was a bit smarter than that.
That said, the bundle could have come from elsewhere.

-walter
>
>
>> Record locked up when I recorded video on Hoiho. Force quit worked, but
>> camera light stays on and record just has a grey preview when you restart
>> it. This only happened once.
>> Record doesn’t work on high quality see olpc #11668.
>>
>
>
> Think we have this resolved with au45(1.75)/au245(1.5) or greater. The
> updated activity is available for installation via "My Settings" ->
> "Software Updater" when you have internet available.
>
>
>>
>> On Moa usb drives don’t show up on the frame or get auto mounted. The
>> drive shows up in /var/log/messages and /proc/partitions. After a reboot
>> this worked ok. I think we saw this back in the day.
>>
>> Distance doesn’t work at all, see olpc #11596. This activity should be
>> removed if it can’t be fixed.
>>
>> Edit starts with the focus somewhere invisible, you have to click on the
>> canvas before it does anything.
>>
>> XO-1.5 Ivy
>> maze works
>> ruler works
>> speak works
>> paint works
>> memorize works
>> crazy touchpad/pointer?
>> write
>
>
> Thanks for the report,
>
> Jerry
>
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Re: [OLPC-AU] Auckland Testing Summary 29 September 2012

[Jerry Vonau]

Thanks for testing.

On 5 October 2012 23:47, Tom Parker  wrote:

> Auckland Testing Summary 29 September 2012
> Who: John, Oliver, Tabitha, Tom
> Testing build 44 11.3.1-au
>
> XO-1.75:
> Browse 192.3!! Rocking like it’s January 2010!
> Based on Firefox 3.6.23, 5 security releases made since!
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Firefox_3.6#cite_note-41
> Crashes if you visit large image, previously reported as olpc #11569
> Google docs complains browser is out of date.
> Can create google docs unlike latest Browse
> Can open links in new tabs unlike latest Browse
> It’s quite slow, get slow script warning on wikipedia!
>

noted


> Somehow we managed to download a new webkit browse.xo and install it on
> one laptop. This version of browse didn’t work at all. We got this version
> by downloading on an x86 laptop from a page with a big list of versions
> (sorry, we don’t know exactly where). Shouldn’t the XO refuse to install
> something that won’t actually work with it?
>
>
The new webkit based browse.xo is sugar 0.96 or greater, presently there is
no way to stop users from shooting themselves in the foot by installing a
bundle that is not supported on their version of sugar.


Record locked up when I recorded video on Hoiho. Force quit worked, but
> camera light stays on and record just has a grey preview when you restart
> it. This only happened once.
> Record doesn’t work on high quality see olpc #11668.
>


Think we have this resolved with au45(1.75)/au245(1.5) or greater. The
updated activity is available for installation via "My Settings" ->
"Software Updater" when you have internet available.



> On Moa usb drives don’t show up on the frame or get auto mounted. The
> drive shows up in /var/log/messages and /proc/partitions. After a reboot
> this worked ok. I think we saw this back in the day.
>
> Distance doesn’t work at all, see olpc #11596. This activity should be
> removed if it can’t be fixed.
>
> Edit starts with the focus somewhere invisible, you have to click on the
> canvas before it does anything.
>
> XO-1.5 Ivy
> maze works
> ruler works
> speak works
> paint works
> memorize works
> crazy touchpad/pointer?
> write


Thanks for the report,

Jerry
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