Re: [Server-devel] Serving 400+ students w/ a single central XS - ejabberd nightmare?

2009-03-15 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 5:54 PM, John Watlington w...@laptop.org wrote: If you aren't going to place school servers in the actual schools, and insist on centralizing them, the hardware recommended by Sameer is a good idea. +1 -- also, Dev Moharty's suggestion is good: run one XS for each

Re: [Server-devel] Serving 400+ students w/ a single central XS - ejabberd nightmare?

2009-03-10 Thread Bryan Berry
On Mon, 2009-03-09 at 21:51 -0700, Sameer Verma wrote: On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 7:04 PM, Bryan Berry br...@olenepal.org wrote: On Tue, 2009-03-10 at 09:58 +1300, Martin Langhoff wrote: On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 12:11 AM, Bryan Berry br...@olenepal.org wrote: I am worried about the XO's and not

Re: [Server-devel] Serving 400+ students w/ a single central XS - ejabberd nightmare?

2009-03-10 Thread Reuben K. Caron
Daniel Drake wrote: 2009/3/9 Bryan Berry br...@olenepal.org: We will have roughly 8+ AP's. We have found that off-the-shelf AP's can handle around 60-70 users. But that doesn't still doesn't solve the problem of the XO's getting bogged down by tons of ejabberd chatter. DSD: do you have any

Re: [Server-devel] Serving 400+ students w/ a single central XS - ejabberd nightmare?

2009-03-10 Thread Rangan Srikhanta
, 10 March 2009 11:29 PM To: Daniel Drake Cc: server-devel Subject: Re: [Server-devel] Serving 400+ students w/ a single central XS - ejabberd nightmare? Daniel Drake wrote: 2009/3/9 Bryan Berry mailto:br...@olenepal.org br...@olenepal.org: We will have roughly 8+ AP's. We have found

Re: [Server-devel] Serving 400+ students w/ a single central XS - ejabberd nightmare?

2009-03-10 Thread Dev Mohanty
...@lists.laptop.org] *On Behalf Of *Reuben K. Caron *Sent:* Tuesday, 10 March 2009 11:29 PM *To:* Daniel Drake *Cc:* server-devel *Subject:* Re: [Server-devel] Serving 400+ students w/ a single central XS - ejabberd nightmare? Daniel Drake wrote: 2009/3/9 Bryan Berry br...@olenepal.org br

Re: [Server-devel] Serving 400+ students w/ a single central XS - ejabberd nightmare?

2009-03-10 Thread Sameer Verma
On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 6:14 AM, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote: 2009/3/10 Reuben K. Caron reu...@laptop.org: Have you tried loading a different firmware on these, dd-wrt? No, but there are regulatory issues there and we won't be using them in the schools...only used them because it was

Re: [Server-devel] Serving 400+ students w/ a single central XS - ejabberd nightmare?

2009-03-10 Thread John Watlington
If you aren't going to place school servers in the actual schools, and insist on centralizing them, the hardware recommended by Sameer is a good idea. My argument has always been that you want local web caching and content, and that an XS shouldn't be that much more expensive than the above

Re: [Server-devel] Serving 400+ students w/ a single central XS - ejabberd nightmare?

2009-03-09 Thread Bryan Berry
On Tue, 2009-03-10 at 09:58 +1300, Martin Langhoff wrote: On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 12:11 AM, Bryan Berry br...@olenepal.org wrote: I am worried about the XO's and not the XS. Now you're starting to see what I've seen :-/ I also worry about your APs and networking infra -- to support 400

Re: [Server-devel] Serving 400+ students w/ a single central XS - ejabberd nightmare?

2009-03-09 Thread Daniel Drake
2009/3/9 Bryan Berry br...@olenepal.org: We will have roughly 8+ AP's. We have found that off-the-shelf AP's can handle around 60-70 users.  But that doesn't still doesn't solve the problem of the XO's getting bogged down by tons of ejabberd chatter. DSD: do you have any ideas about this?

Re: [Server-devel] Serving 400+ students w/ a single central XS - ejabberd nightmare?

2009-03-09 Thread Bryan Berry
On Mon, 2009-03-09 at 22:36 -0400, Daniel Drake wrote: 2009/3/9 Bryan Berry br...@olenepal.org: We will have roughly 8+ AP's. We have found that off-the-shelf AP's can handle around 60-70 users. But that doesn't still doesn't solve the problem of the XO's getting bogged down by tons of

Re: [Server-devel] Serving 400+ students w/ a single central XS - ejabberd nightmare?

2009-03-09 Thread Sameer Verma
On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 7:04 PM, Bryan Berry br...@olenepal.org wrote: On Tue, 2009-03-10 at 09:58 +1300, Martin Langhoff wrote: On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 12:11 AM, Bryan Berry br...@olenepal.org wrote: I am worried about the XO's and not the XS. Now you're starting to see what I've seen :-/ I

Re: [Server-devel] Serving 400+ students w/ a single central XS - ejabberd nightmare?

2009-03-08 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 7:52 PM, Bryan Berry br...@olenepal.org wrote: But 200-300 users could be online at once. I think it will be too complicated to tell some of them: Don't connect to the AP right now, you may overwhelm ejabberd Give ejabberd enough RAM and it won't be a problem. The rest

Re: [Server-devel] Serving 400+ students w/ a single central XS - ejabberd nightmare?

2009-03-08 Thread Bryan Berry
On Sun, 2009-03-08 at 22:36 +1300, Martin Langhoff wrote: On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 7:52 PM, Bryan Berry br...@olenepal.org wrote: But 200-300 users could be online at once. I think it will be too complicated to tell some of them: Don't connect to the AP right now, you may overwhelm ejabberd

Re: [Server-devel] Serving 400+ students w/ a single central XS - ejabberd nightmare?

2009-03-08 Thread Dev Mohanty
Bryan I assume, this is in reference with the deployment planned at the new schools, and guess am more then familiar with admin workload and power limitations you happen to mention in Nepal. Hence was wondering if you've looked into the option of using more then one XS, installed at the same

[Server-devel] Serving 400+ students w/ a single central XS - ejabberd nightmare?

2009-03-07 Thread Bryan Berry
We want to support 5-6 schools with a centralized XS. This XS would connect to the schools by wireless links and support 400+ students. We are planning on a pretty heavy duty server to handle this load but I am concerned that 400+ students in the @online@ group will cause havoc w/ ejabberd and the