Re: [Sugar-devel] XO Fedora 22 Beta work

2015-04-25 Thread Peter Robinson
On Sat, Apr 25, 2015 at 8:50 PM, Adam Holt  wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 25, 2015 at 3:42 PM, Gonzalo Odiard 
> wrote:
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 25, 2015 at 1:10 AM, Samuel Greenfeld 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> At James' suggestion I looked a bit into a Fedora 22 beta build.  I have
>>> found the following problems so far getting the RPM dependencies worked out:
>>>
>>> olpc-library needs to depend on python-jinja2, not python-jinja.  The
>>> olpc-library RPM also was removed from Fedora, perhaps due to lack of
>>> changes & abandonment.
>>> totem-mozplugin no longer exists and was intentionally removed.  Given
>>> Firefox supports various media codecs internally this might not be a problem
>>> for it (apart for vmeta?); but I don't know what webkit-based Browse uses
>>> for media players.
>>> xorg-x11-drv-keyboard and -mouse have been replaced by
>>> xorg-x11-drv-libinput.  See
>>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/LibinputForXorg
>>> 14.1.0 has custom F20 systemd binaries, but I am having trouble finding
>>> information as to why.  If they have relevant changes they need to be ported
>>> to F22 if not already present because using the F20 systemd binaries breaks
>>> all sorts of library dependencies.
>>>
>>> Patches have been written for the first three that I could submit.
>>>
>>> We need to come up with a clear direction as to what volunteers and/or
>>> OLPC want & would actually use for updated XO builds.  I only have the time
>>> to focus on one set of images.
>>
>>
>> True. I am not sure what is best option here.
>> We still didn't solved all the issues in F20, but is already a old
>> release.
>> I wonder if we can try make images based in CentOS.
>
>
> George Hunt is having surprisingly rapid success with CentOS 7 for XSCE.
> Its new release (equivalent to RHEL 7.1) is now out...
>
> Wishful Thinking hopes that similar progress might be possible on various XO
> laptops?

Very wishful, most of the server stuff would already be in
CentOS/EPEL, to get the the sugar stack and dependencies in would be a
reasonable chunk of work. The standard packages in Fedora could easily
be branched for EPEL7 and would all be compatible but someone would
need to step up to do the work as I certainly don't have the time or
really interest.

Peter
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Re: [Sugar-devel] XO Fedora 22 Beta work

2015-04-25 Thread Adam Holt
On Sat, Apr 25, 2015 at 3:42 PM, Gonzalo Odiard 
wrote:

> On Sat, Apr 25, 2015 at 1:10 AM, Samuel Greenfeld 
> wrote:
>
>> At James' suggestion I looked a bit into a Fedora 22 beta build.  I have
>> found the following problems so far getting the RPM dependencies worked out:
>>
>>- olpc-library needs to depend on python-jinja2, not python-jinja.
>>The olpc-library RPM also was removed from Fedora, perhaps due to lack of
>>changes & abandonment.
>>- totem-mozplugin no longer exists and was intentionally removed.
>>Given Firefox supports various media codecs internally this might not be a
>>problem for it (apart for vmeta?); but I don't know what webkit-based
>>Browse uses for media players.
>>- xorg-x11-drv-keyboard and -mouse have been replaced by
>>xorg-x11-drv-libinput.  See
>>https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/LibinputForXorg
>>- 14.1.0 has custom F20 systemd binaries, but I am having trouble
>>finding information as to why.  If they have relevant changes they need to
>>be ported to F22 if not already present because using the F20 systemd
>>binaries breaks all sorts of library dependencies.
>>
>> Patches have been written for the first three that I could submit.
>>
>> We need to come up with a clear direction as to what volunteers and/or
>> OLPC want & would actually use for updated XO builds.  I only have the time
>> to focus on one set of images.
>>
>
> True. I am not sure what is best option here.
> We still didn't solved all the issues in F20, but is already a old release.
> I wonder if we can try make images based in CentOS.
>

George Hunt is having surprisingly rapid success with CentOS 7 for XSCE.
Its new release (equivalent to RHEL 7.1) is now out...

Wishful Thinking hopes that similar progress might be possible on various
XO laptops?

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Re: [Sugar-devel] XO Fedora 22 Beta work

2015-04-25 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
On Sat, Apr 25, 2015 at 1:10 AM, Samuel Greenfeld 
wrote:

> At James' suggestion I looked a bit into a Fedora 22 beta build.  I have
> found the following problems so far getting the RPM dependencies worked out:
>
>- olpc-library needs to depend on python-jinja2, not python-jinja.
>The olpc-library RPM also was removed from Fedora, perhaps due to lack of
>changes & abandonment.
>- totem-mozplugin no longer exists and was intentionally removed.
>Given Firefox supports various media codecs internally this might not be a
>problem for it (apart for vmeta?); but I don't know what webkit-based
>Browse uses for media players.
>- xorg-x11-drv-keyboard and -mouse have been replaced by
>xorg-x11-drv-libinput.  See
>https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/LibinputForXorg
>- 14.1.0 has custom F20 systemd binaries, but I am having trouble
>finding information as to why.  If they have relevant changes they need to
>be ported to F22 if not already present because using the F20 systemd
>binaries breaks all sorts of library dependencies.
>
> Patches have been written for the first three that I could submit.
>
> We need to come up with a clear direction as to what volunteers and/or
> OLPC want & would actually use for updated XO builds.  I only have the time
> to focus on one set of images.
>

True. I am not sure what is best option here.
We still didn't solved all the issues in F20, but is already a old release.
I wonder if we can try make images based in CentOS.

Gonzalo
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