Re: [sugar] Question about clipboard service

2008-09-10 Thread Eben Eliason
On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 4:37 PM, Greg Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Eben, > > I'm resurrecting an old thread here. > > BTW if you have any more specs or design proposals to share, now is a > good time to consider them for 9.1-sugar .84 so send them out. The clipboard specification on the wi

Re: [sugar] Question about clipboard service

2008-09-05 Thread Greg Smith
Hi Eben, I'm resurrecting an old thread here. BTW if you have any more specs or design proposals to share, now is a good time to consider them for 9.1-sugar .84 so send them out. I see where you are going with this work flow for kids writing on their own then coming together. It could work but

Re: [sugar] Question about clipboard service

2008-08-06 Thread Gary C Martin
On 6 Aug 2008, at 17:32, Eben Eliason wrote: > Step by step. I limit the example to 2 kids for simplicity; the method > scales naturally. > > 1. Kid A starts an activity > 2. Kid A shares the activity > 3. Kid B joins the activity > 4. Kids A and B collaborate (synchronously) in the activity > 5.

Re: [sugar] Question about clipboard service

2008-08-06 Thread Bastien
"Eben Eliason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> When the activities will re-open in the same shared-state they were when >> closed, it might be very useful have a function to let A and B check for >> diffs and merge their two versions - without doing manually. > > It still sounds like a decent step

Re: [sugar] Question about clipboard service

2008-08-06 Thread Eben Eliason
On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 4:22 PM, Bastien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Eben Eliason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >>> Can you walk me through the steps needed for that? e.g. one kid starts an >>> activity then shares it, each other kid opens the activity and joins (or >>> opens their own work?), th

Re: [sugar] Question about clipboard service

2008-08-06 Thread Bastien
"Eben Eliason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Can you walk me through the steps needed for that? e.g. one kid starts an >> activity then shares it, each other kid opens the activity and joins (or >> opens their own work?), then ???. How do they get their own work on the >> clipboard and how do the

Re: [sugar] Question about clipboard service

2008-08-06 Thread Eben Eliason
On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 12:12 PM, Greg Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Eben, > > Thanks for the explanation. You may want to update the Spec with this > added detail. > > One follow question. On this: > > If 5 kids are collaborating on a science report, they might all go > home and do

Re: [sugar] Question about clipboard service

2008-08-06 Thread Greg Smith
Hi Eben, Thanks for the explanation. You may want to update the Spec with this added detail. One follow question. On this: If 5 kids are collaborating on a science report, they might all go home and do independent work on their subtopic as homework. The next day they come together in a

Re: [sugar] Question about clipboard service

2008-08-05 Thread Eben Eliason
On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 1:33 PM, Gary C Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 5 Aug 2008, at 16:50, Eben Eliason wrote: > >> On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 3:44 AM, Greg Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >>> 7 - Is cut supported? How do you remove things from the clipboard? >>> How >>> many items can it

Re: [sugar] Question about clipboard service

2008-08-05 Thread Gary C Martin
On 5 Aug 2008, at 16:50, Eben Eliason wrote: > On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 3:44 AM, Greg Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> 7 - Is cut supported? How do you remove things from the clipboard? >> How >> many items can it hold? > > Cut is definitely supported, and will remain mapped to the Ctrl-X >

Re: [sugar] Question about clipboard service

2008-08-05 Thread Eben Eliason
t; of detail. > > I appreciate the specifying in advance and I think you are on the right > track. > > Since the journal abstracted the file system, its not easy to move files > between activities. I think we need an overall strategy for file sharing > between activities,

Re: [sugar] Question about clipboard service

2008-08-05 Thread Greg Smith
Mon, 4 Aug 2008 14:59:56 -0400 > From: "Eben Eliason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [sugar] Question about clipboard service > To: "Tomeu Vizoso" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: devel@lists.laptop.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Message-ID: > <[EMAI

Re: [sugar] Question about clipboard service

2008-08-04 Thread Eben Eliason
There is a fairly comprehensive specification [1] for the clipboard on the wiki. Most importantly it discusses the use of titles, icons, colors, and previews, which are the 4 elements of clippings that we need to support in various combination to make the clipboard successful. This spec isn't wor

Re: [sugar] Question about clipboard service

2008-07-22 Thread Faisal Anwar
I think if the gtk clipboard has the functionality, then I'll just document some examples for that and reference to the larger body of work available online. I guess there is less direct relevance for the sugar clipboardservice api right now when it comes to sharing stuff between activities (from t

Re: [sugar] Question about clipboard service

2008-07-19 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Well, we can add some sugar API around the gtk clipboard stuff, but I'm not sure there's a lot of value in there, as the gtk+ API is already quite high level. The problem here is how do we extend the existing X specs to deliver the experience we aim for. Last we talked about it, Marco was opposed

Re: [sugar] Question about clipboard service

2008-07-19 Thread Eben Eliason
I can't tell from your wording if you are implying that we will or will not be creating some custom wrappers for the clipboard service. I think we absolutely need them to accomplish several critical clipboard issues (among them, specifying icons, colors, titles, and previews for clippings). In fa

Re: [sugar] Question about clipboard service

2008-07-19 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 10:29 PM, Faisal Anwar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > I'm playing around with the clipboard package on sugar and had a quick > question. So, the clipboardservice.py file shows some basic api for getting > and setting objects on the clipboard through the dbus. However,