Re: [Community-news] [sugar] where is Walter?

2008-04-24 Thread Samuel Klein
An aside to all about mailing list usage : please stay on-topic. Community-news is for announcements only (despite having a brief discussion earlier this week), and devel is for code and development. I'm bcc:ing devel and copying olpc-open and grassroots lists, in the hopes that this is taken up

Re: [Community-news] [sugar] where is Walter?

2008-04-24 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 9:49 PM, Martin Langhoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Try contacting [EMAIL PROTECTED] - which is handled by Darah. She > is the best first point of contact and can get things going. I don't know. It seems like the brushoff to me. Darah Tappitake to me 10:50 AM (16 hours

Re: [sugar] Where is Walter?

2008-04-23 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 06:14:21PM +0200, J.M. Maurer wrote: > But it did happen, so now people want to be reassured that their *very > precious spare time* will not be wasted. Please do not let present doubt stop you from using your power to advance our mutual cause. If you doubt, seek the reassu

Re: [sugar] Where is Walter?

2008-04-23 Thread J.M. Maurer
On Wed, 2008-04-23 at 08:05 -0700, Joshua N Pritikin wrote: > On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 04:31:30PM +0200, J.M. Maurer wrote: > > On Wed, 2008-04-23 at 14:05 +0200, Bobby Powers wrote: > > > Maybe we could take a break from > > > talking about the sky falling until we hear something from Negroponte >

Re: [sugar] Where is Walter?

2008-04-23 Thread Joshua N Pritikin
On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 04:31:30PM +0200, J.M. Maurer wrote: > On Wed, 2008-04-23 at 14:05 +0200, Bobby Powers wrote: > > Maybe we could take a break from > > talking about the sky falling until we hear something from Negroponte > > or someone else at 1CC regarding Windows? > > A clear statement o

Re: [sugar] Where is Walter?

2008-04-23 Thread J.M. Maurer
On Wed, 2008-04-23 at 14:05 +0200, Bobby Powers wrote: > I'm new around here, but it seems like this whole conversation is > based on a bunch of what-ifs surrounding that AP article. People > generally seem on the same page that switching to Windows and non-free > software would be a Bad Thing. M

Re: [Community-news] [sugar] where is Walter?

2008-04-23 Thread Steve Holton
On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 2:14 AM, Edward Cherlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Illinois, as I said somewhere in this thread, wants to put laptops > into 300 schools to start. Just a quick question, probably off-topic, but is Illinois interested in giving kids *XO's* or *laptops*? Because if Illinoi

Re: [Community-news] [sugar] where is Walter?

2008-04-22 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 10:46 PM, Martin Langhoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 5:29 PM, Edward Cherlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 10:13 PM, Martin Langhoff > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 4:54 PM, Edward Cherlin <

Re: [Community-news] [sugar] where is Walter?

2008-04-22 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 5:29 PM, Edward Cherlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 10:13 PM, Martin Langhoff > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 4:54 PM, Edward Cherlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > What's this hostility about? Does it accomplish somet

Re: [Community-news] [sugar] where is Walter?

2008-04-22 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 10:13 PM, Martin Langhoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 4:54 PM, Edward Cherlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What's this hostility about? Does it accomplish something? > > Not everyone knows everything about your project - though it's > interesti

Re: [Community-news] [sugar] where is Walter?

2008-04-22 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 4:54 PM, Edward Cherlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What's this hostility about? Does it accomplish something? Not everyone knows everything about your project - though it's interesting to hear. Regardless of project size, getting hold of key people at a large project is

Re: [Community-news] [sugar] where is Walter?

2008-04-22 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 12:10 PM, Wes Kussmaul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Edward Cherlin wrote: > > > I recently wrote to Nicholas about Illinois HB5000, the Children's > > Low-Cost Laptop Act, and received no reply. > > Yeah, I know the feeling. I recently wrote to the CEO of General Motors

Re: [Community-news] [sugar] where is Walter?

2008-04-22 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 7:10 AM, Wes Kussmaul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Edward Cherlin wrote: > > > I recently wrote to Nicholas about Illinois HB5000, the Children's > > Low-Cost Laptop Act, and received no reply. > > Yeah, I know the feeling. I recently wrote to the CEO of General Motors >

Re: [Community-news] [sugar] where is Walter?

2008-04-22 Thread Wes Kussmaul
Edward Cherlin wrote: > I recently wrote to Nicholas about Illinois HB5000, the Children's > Low-Cost Laptop Act, and received no reply. Yeah, I know the feeling. I recently wrote to the CEO of General Motors about customizing my minivan for my work and didn't hear back either... OLPC now has

Re: [sugar] where is Walter?

2008-04-22 Thread Andrew Smyth
On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 8:38 PM, Drew Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 5:15 PM, Kim Quirk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > OLPC has increased funding and resources in 2008 toward a continued > > commitment to helping kids in the least developed countries through > > deploy

Re: [sugar] where is Walter?

2008-04-22 Thread Don Hopkins
Edward Cherlin wrote: > Basically, the impression that outsiders get is of imperial rule > by Nicholas Negroponte, with no sense that the workers or the public > deserve to be informed of anything until after the decisions have all > been made, and made wrongly. > What's so imperial about the Un

Re: [sugar] where is Walter?

2008-04-22 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 5:13 PM, Michael Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 05:54:13PM -0500, Joe Barr wrote: > > It really sucks to see OLPC shriveling up and dying. > > Joe, > > It's good for people who have been unable to reconcile their differences > with one another

Re: [sugar] where is Walter?

2008-04-21 Thread Jaya Kumar
2008/4/21 Kim Quirk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > OLPC has increased funding and resources in 2008 toward a continued > commitment to helping kids in the least developed countries through > deployment of XOs and Sugar. I don't think there is any shriveling or dying > going on here. Like many people who l

Re: [sugar] where is Walter?

2008-04-21 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 1:34 PM, Carl-Daniel Hailfinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 22.04.2008 02:13, Michael Stone wrote: > > What in this description of events leads you to the conclusion that OLPC > > is "shriveling up and dying"? > Perhaps not shriveling up, but quite a few contributors

Re: [sugar] where is Walter?

2008-04-21 Thread Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
On 22.04.2008 02:13, Michael Stone wrote: > What in this description of events leads you to the conclusion that OLPC > is "shriveling up and dying"? > Perhaps not shriveling up, but quite a few contributors/participants from the early days (pre-A-Test till B2-Test) have left and the perceived g

Re: [sugar] where is Walter?

2008-04-21 Thread Drew Hess
On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 5:15 PM, Kim Quirk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > OLPC has increased funding and resources in 2008 toward a continued > commitment to helping kids in the least developed countries through > deployment of XOs and Sugar. I don't think there is any shriveling or dying > going on

Re: [sugar] where is Walter?

2008-04-21 Thread Kim Quirk
We are all grateful to have had Walter's leadership and inspiration to get us to this point. It should be inspiring to see OLPC branching out, expanding and increasing support for children in many different ways. OLPC has increased funding and resources in 2008 toward a continued commitment to hel

Re: [sugar] where is Walter?

2008-04-21 Thread Michael Stone
On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 05:54:13PM -0500, Joe Barr wrote: > It really sucks to see OLPC shriveling up and dying. Joe, It's good for people who have been unable to reconcile their differences with one another to separate themselves, to recuperate, and eventually, to re-engage one another with fres

Re: [sugar] where is Walter?

2008-04-21 Thread Joe Barr
On Mon, 2008-04-21 at 18:22 -0400, Walter Bender wrote: > > Thank you for all of your support over the past two years and for all > the feedback and encouragement you have given me. > > regards. > > -walter It really sucks to see OLPC shriveling up and dying. -- Resistance is not futil