Re: 2588 - Journal unusable

2008-12-12 Thread Greg Smith
...@laptop.org Subject: Re: 2588 - Journal unusable To: Chris Ball c...@laptop.org Cc: devel@lists.laptop.org Message-ID: 20081212042721.gg6...@us.netrek.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii G'day Chris, I'll give a partial line of reasoning response ... this is not complete, I'm short of time

Re: 2588 - Journal unusable

2008-12-12 Thread Michael Stone
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 03:27:21PM +1100, James Cameron wrote: G'day Chris, I'll give a partial line of reasoning response ... this is not complete, I'm short of time. Where I said public, I meant developer builds that can be used by other developers. I didn't mean to imply public builds for

Re: 2588 - Journal unusable

2008-12-11 Thread Daniel Drake
On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 5:06 AM, Mikus Grinbergs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Journal entries do not show the object icon - so they cannot be launched from. This SEVERE error has now lasted through five Joyride builds. joyride builds are automatic. 5 builds is about 1 day. Please be a little

Re: 2588 - Journal unusable

2008-12-11 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
I assume from your language that this is a regression, i.e. it worked six joyride builds ago? This wasn't clear from your original mail, but is valuable info to have. Can you recall the most recent working version? The last time the Joyride Journal did not have the problem was build 2581

Re: 2588 - Journal unusable

2008-12-11 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
I am just making a new snapshot release of sugar since there were some deps of sugar-toolkit on the sugar package. What is helpful when writing those emails is always to have a quick look at the logs. For the impatient ones: http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=993286

Re: 2588 - Journal unusable

2008-12-11 Thread Eben Eliason
On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 3:57 PM, Mikus Grinbergs mi...@bga.com wrote: I am just making a new snapshot release of sugar since there were some deps of sugar-toolkit on the sugar package. What is helpful when writing those emails is always to have a quick look at the logs. For the impatient

2588 - Journal unusable

2008-12-11 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
With 2590 the Joyride Journal problem of entries not displaying an icon (so those Activities can be re-launched) has been corrected. Thank you, mikus ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Re: 2588 - Journal unusable

2008-12-11 Thread david
On Thu, 11 Dec 2008, Eben Eliason wrote: On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 3:57 PM, Mikus Grinbergs mi...@bga.com wrote: It is likely that the regression in Journal was caused by releasing sugar-toolkit without simultaneously releasing something which that package interacted with. But how is the

Re: 2588 - Journal unusable

2008-12-11 Thread quozl
On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 04:24:32PM -0500, Eben Eliason wrote: 1) Joyide is the development build stream. It doesn't by any means promise stability, in general. 2) It's early in the release cycle, so things are even more likely to break in fairly big ways. It is as if joyride is being used as

Re: 2588 - Journal unusable

2008-12-11 Thread Chris Ball
Hi James, Thanks for these thoughts. They seem like worthwhile goals, but I don't think we're likely to get there in practise. In specific: It is as if joyride is being used as part of developers' edit, compile and test sequence. Wouldn't it be more appropriate to do this sequence

Re: 2588 - Journal unusable

2008-12-11 Thread James Cameron
G'day Chris, I'll give a partial line of reasoning response ... this is not complete, I'm short of time. Where I said public, I meant developer builds that can be used by other developers. I didn't mean to imply public builds for testing by non-developers. I mean the difference between what a

2588 - Journal unusable

2008-12-10 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
The Journal entries do not show the object icon - so they cannot be launched from. This SEVERE error has now lasted through five Joyride builds. I'm posting here, rather than write a ticket, as a way to get quickest to those who can do something about it. Or should users who have real XOs

Re: 2588 - Journal unusable

2008-12-10 Thread david
On Thu, 11 Dec 2008, Mikus Grinbergs wrote: The Journal entries do not show the object icon - so they cannot be launched from. This SEVERE error has now lasted through five Joyride builds. I'm posting here, rather than write a ticket, as a way to get quickest to those who can do something